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THE BEST RELIGION.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117166 (OP)
7/4/2009 12:22 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
The best religion is the one that you KNOW is true. 
“What evidence have ye that there is no God, or that Christ cometh not? I say unto you that ye have none, save it be your word only.”
[ link to www.schoolofabraham.com]
I'm sorry, but I can't respond to you without either laughing hysterically or batting you about the head with a nerf noodle.
NEVER CHANGE.
As if.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117166 (OP)
7/4/2009 12:30 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
Face it, weetards, the ONLY way for religions to peacefully coexist is not only for each religion to have their own planet, well out of nuclear missile range of one another, BUT, for each sect or denomination of each religion to have its own solar system.
I have lived among the Protestant Reformed long enough to appreciate that they consider half of Christianity (Catholics) to be satanistas. (You like? Just made up a new word.)
And then we have the Protestant Reformed vs the Christian reformed, who also look down their noses at one another...and on and on and on....
As far as I can see, the only purpose religion has served to this point in time is population control.
Religion is sanctioned genocide.
Can I get an amen????
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 58109
7/4/2009 3:42 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
The bigger they are the harder they fall. You built yourself up quite an argument. Not. You have become what you hate. |
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Phuck
User ID: 686900
7/4/2009 3:44 AM
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true buddhism the religionless religion
Phuck
You |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 97986
7/4/2009 3:47 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
The elite are the ones that sanction depopulation and have performed genocide. They try confusion. Wake up people/OP before it is too late. Think it out, not just to fit how you feel. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 689740
7/4/2009 4:12 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
Thelema |
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MagiChristmas 
Cher Ami -- When did Pigeons not= Doves?
User ID: 554973
7/4/2009 7:30 AM
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The best religion is the one that you KNOW is true.
“What evidence have ye that there is no God, or that Christ cometh not? I say unto you that ye have none, save it be your word only.”
[ link to www.schoolofabraham.com]
I'm sorry, but I can't respond to you without either laughing hysterically or batting you about the head with a nerf noodle.
NEVER CHANGE.
As if.
Your word only -- just like the scripture says. 
And a lot of empty space in an attempt to compensate for your vacuous evidence.
Last Edited by 3*8** aka MagiChristmas on 7/4/2009 at 7:32 AM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718346
7/5/2009 12:19 AM | |
My Take
User ID: 673609
7/5/2009 12:33 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
People are constantly in a state of change, trying to find the healthiest ideas and attitudes for them. That's why practitioners of any religion talk about their growth as believers.
If they make the mistake of thinking their spirituality is about religion, they end up stuck for a while because they have rejected one third of their human make-up of body, mind and spirit. In doing so they create an emptiness which can never be filled.
Children automatically know that they are spiritual beings. And they instinctively know how to feed their spirits. They smile at strangers. They wonder at "insignificant" things. They coo when they feel loved. They are capable of taking in the gifts and not being distracted by adult concerns. But organized religion often turns them off and causes them to stifle their spiritual creativity.
What's the best "religion?" The first one, untainted by man, and instinctively recognized from an early age in each human heart. With one exception - those who are psychologically damaged in some way.
How does one access this spiritual side of one's self? By observation and openness to the gifts of life, patience and perserverance. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718112
7/5/2009 12:34 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
IS NO RELIGION.
Ba da bing.
What do I win???
I too am a heathen, rock on. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117166 (OP)
7/5/2009 12:53 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718346
Nothin' beats free chit.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117166 (OP)
7/5/2009 12:54 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
IS NO RELIGION.
Ba da bing.
What do I win???
I too am a heathen, rock on.
I'm not a heather. I'm just not a clone.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117166 (OP)
7/5/2009 1:00 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
People are constantly in a state of change, trying to find the healthiest ideas and attitudes for them. That's why practitioners of any religion talk about their growth as believers.
If they make the mistake of thinking their spirituality is about religion, they end up stuck for a while because they have rejected one third of their human make-up of body, mind and spirit. In doing so they create an emptiness which can never be filled.
Children automatically know that they are spiritual beings. And they instinctively know how to feed their spirits. They smile at strangers. They wonder at "insignificant" things. They coo when they feel loved. They are capable of taking in the gifts and not being distracted by adult concerns. But organized religion often turns them off and causes them to stifle their spiritual creativity.
What's the best "religion?" The first one, untainted by man, and instinctively recognized from an early age in each human heart. With one exception - those who are psychologically damaged in some way.
How does one access this spiritual side of one's self? By observation and openness to the gifts of life, patience and perserverance. Quoting: My Take 673609
Except for your first sentence, that was rather poetic.
But........People are constantly trying to find the healthiest ideas and attitudes?
Which planet do you speak of?
Surely not this one.
Religion is preformed truth that petrifies the mind, body and soul unto death.
Change? Religion? are you kidding?
Like those two words belong in the same sentence?
The same paragraph?
The same universe?
LOL
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The Preacher
User ID: 718238
7/5/2009 1:10 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
IS NO RELIGION.
Ba da bing.
What do I win???
Dont be a heathen all your life, follow Christ and dont be like the pharisee's. Personally, i am a fan of the holiness movement myslef. [link to relijournal.com] |
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My Take
User ID: 673609
7/5/2009 1:38 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
Except for your first sentence, that was rather poetic.
But........People are constantly trying to find the healthiest ideas and attitudes?
Which planet do you speak of?
Surely not this one.
Religion is preformed truth that petrifies the mind, body and soul unto death.
Change? Religion? are you kidding?
Like those two words belong in the same sentence?
The same paragraph?
The same universe?
LOL
I'll tranlate that into kid talk. Hee.
You wanna feel good, right? That's the existential search.
If you confuse spirituality with religion and reject it, you'll spend your life trying to fill that need with material things and eventually discover that no amount of money, dope, sex, belongings can ever be enough.
You nearly have to experience that kind of thing to understand it, I suppose. Time is a good teacher.
Um, think of some crabby old person you know and don't want to be like. That's the end product of not finding and feeding his spirit.
Or think of days when, no matter what you do, you just can't figure out what's missing, what you need to feel more comfortable. That may be a hungry spirit.
Just like your mind and your body need feeding, so also does your spirit.
What I'm saying? Spirituality is real and it is not religion. Learn not to confuse them and you're off to a good start in finding contentment within yourself.
A good thing, yeah?
Don't have to buy this message that seems so odd to you right now. Just tuck it in your back pocket and maybe someday it will come in handy. If not - toss it. ;) |
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The Professor
User ID: 660063
7/5/2009 2:24 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
Your reward will be hellfire.
God has said that this world is a deception of goods and chatels.
The purpose of this is to follow God's commandments.
Boring? but this is all God requires. Quoting: moon 673313
God has said?????????????
For the record, there is not, nor will there ever be, the slightest bit of evidence that God ever said anything. The best that any religion can do is to say that some person said that God said this, that or the other.
The problem with this - other than the obvious lack of evidence - is that those people who claim to be God's appointed spokesperson cannot agree on what God says!! As they so eloquently say on GLP: WTF?
The Christian Bible is said to be the complete, inspired and inerrant word of God, yet Christians cannot agree on what the book says. They read and study this book, yet with God's very words before their eyes, they still don't know what God means. There are dozens of Christian denominations with varying and opposing theologies; and each points to the same Bible to prove its position. And still Christians proclaim that each and every word, each and every confusing and self-contradicting word, is authored by God Himself.
This is not merely silly. It is insane. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718346
7/5/2009 8:10 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
Dont be a heathen all your life, follow Christ and dont be like the pharisee's. Personally, i am a fan of the holiness movement myslef. [ link to relijournal.com]
I have just finished reading "A Heathens Guide to World Religions" I would recommend it to anyone, heathen or not.
Personally I have now given up on the holiness movement and decided that there is more truth in Heathenry than in any of the holinesses. So my suggestion is the opposite of The Preacher's. You should check out his link, it shows how the Holiness guys try to be so judgmental and you can just see their seething jealousy for other peoples lives and achievements. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718346
7/5/2009 8:21 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
God has said?????????????
For the record, there is not, nor will there ever be, the slightest bit of evidence that God ever said anything. The best that any religion can do is to say that some person said that God said this, that or the other.
The problem with this - other than the obvious lack of evidence - is that those people who claim to be God's appointed spokesperson cannot agree on what God says!! As they so eloquently say on GLP: WTF?
The Christian Bible is said to be the complete, inspired and inerrant word of God, yet Christians cannot agree on what the book says. They read and study this book, yet with God's very words before their eyes, they still don't know what God means. There are dozens of Christian denominations with varying and opposing theologies; and each points to the same Bible to prove its position. And still Christians proclaim that each and every word, each and every confusing and self-contradicting word, is authored by God Himself.
This is not merely silly. It is insane. Quoting: The Professor 660063
Professor, I wish to disagree with part of your statement. You have tacitly accepted that there is a God by your usage in this text. Given that as a working assumption, and the fact that we find ourselves to be, in a universe created by God, then it follows that what God has said can be found in the common reality that we share. Thus the word of God is written into the laws that govern the turning of the Earth, the laws that govern the processes of photosynthesis and all the other processes that bind and move everything within the universe. For if it were not the Creators will, then it would be another way. So my contention is that God did say something and does speak to us, we just have to know where to look to find his intentions. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117166 (OP)
7/5/2009 9:01 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
As I say, the problem is not found first in religion itself, for at the heart of each of the five major religions lies a common mandate, "Love thy neighbor" - that, if practiced without regard for what others believe, would solve most of the problems on this planet.
No, the problems lie more in how people relate to and interpret their religion - how they wear it and act it out in society - and how they compare themselves to others and hold their religion in greater regard to others - that breeds contention and dissension - and which leads to the holy wars that man has been heir to for generations.
It has become a game not only of "my god is better than your god" but, "my god is the only true god".
So much for love they neighbor.
But having said this, my problem with religion is in its inane misconstructions which posit a universe that doesn't and couldn't exist along with a source creator that is pathetically provincial and childish in nature - for these things teach children a total set of misconstructions about life and universal functioning which prevents them from becoming objective researchers of reality and thus, mindless clones who insist on belief over dispassionate inquiry. It makes people stupid and incapable of objectivity. And worse, into mindless zealots.
I'm just sayin'.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117166 (OP)
7/5/2009 9:14 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
Interesting definitions of heathen:
hea⋅then
  /ˈhiðən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hee-thuhn] Show IPA noun, plural -thens, -then, adjective
Use heathen in a Sentence
–noun
1. an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim; pagan.
2. an irreligious, uncultured, or uncivilized person.
–adjective
3. of or pertaining to heathens; pagan.
4. irreligious, uncultured, or uncivilized.
Origin:
bef. 900; ME hethen, OE hǣthen, akin to G Heide, heidnisch (adj.), ON heithingi (n.), heithinn (adj.), Goth haithno (n.); perh. akin to heath
Related forms:
hea⋅then⋅dom, noun
hea⋅then⋅hood, noun
hea⋅then⋅ness, noun
hea⋅then⋅ship, noun
Synonyms:
3. heathenish, barbarous. Heathen, pagan are both applied to peoples who are not Christian, Jewish, or Muslim. Heathen is often distinctively applied to unenlightened or barbaric idolaters, esp. to primitive or ancient tribes: heathen rites, idols. Pagan, though applied to any of the peoples not worshiping according to the three religions mentioned above, is most frequently used in speaking of the ancient Greeks and Romans: a pagan poem; a pagan civilization. 4. philistine; savage. |
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A Brit
User ID: 657899
7/5/2009 9:22 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
Christianity as in the four gospels ONLY.
Jesus was one cool dude.
I'm not interested much in the rest of the new teastament, and i shun the old testament which is often used to justify evil. |
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voice
User ID: 714731
7/5/2009 9:29 AM
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I guess the Mormons get my vote for best religion! lol |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 696520
7/5/2009 9:32 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
Then we got the Buddhists.
A pretty lofty and cerebral religion. More a treatise on ethical behavior, which is a good thing. Plenty of good things about Buddhism - except....life is pain and suffering????
Baaa...wrong.. Sorry. Try again.
Or when you die, your spirit goes directly into another lifeform?
Fashizzle.
NOT.
Lose 3 points.
How about a touch of physics. You exist now in a frame, or infinitesimal duration cell, of space-time. You did exist in all those other "cells" of space-time since birth. Those other cells of space time, in the past where you injected your radiations into all the vicinities objects and others, are still there. They haven't gone anywhere but into the past. Locked.
When you die, those cumulative radiations, that still exist locked in those space-time cells, IS the YOU.
That's it, all done. Anything more requires some leap into some non-physics of the actual facts. (Which I do believe beyond any doubt but it's WAY not for everyone)
I'd try to find something more, 'cause man, even the hottest times of pleasure will get really old the quadrillionth time "reviewing" it, being it (de ja vue, SP?) Like an escape Door or something.
So peace, dude. Make yourself a real good "nest" for all that will remain of you after your inversion (death). To each their own. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718346
7/5/2009 11:02 AM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
Christianity as in the four gospels ONLY.
Jesus was one cool dude.
I'm not interested much in the rest of the new teastament, and i shun the old testament which is often used to justify evil. Quoting: A Brit 657899
You cannot do that, as the Old Testament is the foundation on which the expectation of the Messiah was built. The New Testament is a follow on from it and does not stand alone and out of context. |
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LEOFROMFRANCE
User ID: 657328
7/5/2009 11:07 AM
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best religion? it's not a religion, it's a fact: oneness. |
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My Take
User ID: 673609
7/5/2009 1:29 PM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
A reflection on the paradox.
That's it! I think most who are on a spriritul path whether it be by prescribed religion, or a personal quest, recognize that it involves mystery. Mystery is the hallmark of the spiritual life.
Pehaps it is that human discomfort with the paradox that many humans find so uncomfortable that they either
1. Stubbornly cling to the "one way only" stand
2. Or give up and reject the search entirely
The word "heathen" carries so much human baggage with it that it doesn't seem am apt word to describe a spiritual, but nonreligious person. The closest I can think of would be "Pagan." Even that is weighted.
Indeed the public acknowledgement of the spirit within all is so rare that I'm not sure we have a commonly accepted word for its practice. Some here call it a search for the truth.
And, as a poster above notes, one of the keys is respect for life. |
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My Take
User ID: 673609
7/5/2009 1:30 PM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
Afterthought.
Another paradox: The answer lies in the mysterious balance and not at the extremes. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117166 (OP)
7/5/2009 1:38 PM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
best religion? it's not a religion, it's a fact: oneness. Quoting: LEOFROMFRANCE
You've listened well, yoda.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117166 (OP)
7/5/2009 1:39 PM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
Afterthought.
Another paradox: The answer lies in the mysterious balance and not at the extremes. Quoting: My Take 673609
Indeed, balance in all things and thoughts allows for room for growth. |
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My Take
User ID: 673609
7/5/2009 4:01 PM | | Re: THE BEST RELIGION. | Quote |
"Oneness" comes close.
Here's a thought though. It really doesn't seem to work if it is imposed upon people. Consider what a mess we are making out of the diversity movement. Well, meant, but spirituality can't be forced upon people.
Seems to be something each human has to discover on his own. Usually by a series of personal disasters or misfortunes and a realization of one's humble place in the universe.
That Whatchamaycallit is a driving force in one's life and recognition that alligning one's self with that brings one into a more comfortable spot in life. |
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