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Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???

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Jackinthebox
User ID: 669566
7/5/2009 8:46 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

You assumed that's what I was doing - I never compared the two, what I asked is where do you draw the line?


I think a sliding scale is in order. But Even with that, Even if this girl was 4 years old, I dont think this guy should get a life sentence.

A four-year-old girl? That's much different. In that case, the creep would get no sympathy violins from me if they warehoused him with the Aryan Brotherhood. They have a successful form of "therapy" for pedophiles. They never molest again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718320


Dont misunderstand. Some creep that goes after a 4 yo should get their balls chopped off. But that still doesnt equate to life sentence for an internet chat.
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
Jackinthebox
User ID: 669566
7/5/2009 8:47 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

And by the way Jack, hell yeah I do 'project much' - always have, always will. I'm not intimidated easily. Seems to me that when you are confronted with a valid argument you run.
 Quoting: Woman On The Edge


So, state your case, im right here
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
Jackinthebox
User ID: 669566
7/5/2009 8:50 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

You assumed that's what I was doing - I never compared the two, what I asked is where do you draw the line?


I think a sliding scale is in order. But Even with that, Even if this girl was 4 years old, I dont think this guy should get a life sentence.



Well, re-read my post - I said that it was unfair. I didn't agree with the life sentence. I'm just saying where in the hell do we draw the line? How do we determine what the punishment should be? Punishment should fit the crime
 Quoting: Woman On The Edge


Like I said, sliding scale. Pubescence is also a key point, but I don't call that a set line either. Maybe a marker point, but not a conrete line.
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
Woman On The Edge
User ID: 711774
7/5/2009 8:56 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

And by the way Jack, hell yeah I do 'project much' - always have, always will. I'm not intimidated easily. Seems to me that when you are confronted with a valid argument you run.


So, state your case, im right here
 Quoting: Jackinthebox



I did state my case.

I agree that a life sentence for 'luring' a teen is harsh.

But if this guy knew he was after a 15 year old girl (and by the way how old was this guy?) then more than likely this is NOT the first time he has done this.

What I am saying is, there should be standardization within our court system. I hate our court system, it is unjust and unfair. I have personally seen two people who committed the same crime receive vastly different sentences.

But I think what we are discussing here are actually two different things:

1. Child molestation (even a 15 year old girl with breasts is a child)

2. Our crappy court system.

So, in order to fully understand my point you have to separate the two. The same guy in a different jurisdiction, and with a different prosecutor may have gotten a different sentence.

Jack, do you have children?
"Courage & knowledge always triumph over fear & ignorance"


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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715777
7/5/2009 8:57 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

Any 15 year old girl who has sex with old men should have her parents locked up for raising a slut.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717520


my mother had me when she was 15 yrs of age...dum ass..so why didnt they lock my dad up for 25 yrs..because standards change and make a whole mountain out of a mole hill.so you continue to support the hierachy.dik face
Woman On The Edge
User ID: 711774
7/5/2009 9:00 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

Any 15 year old girl who has sex with old men should have her parents locked up for raising a slut.


my mother had me when she was 15 yrs of age...dum ass..so why didnt they lock my dad up for 25 yrs..because standards change and make a whole mountain out of a mole hill.so you continue to support the hierachy.dik face
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715777



Hey - statutory rape has been around for a long time. If you are over 18 and screw around with a 16 year old you can get busted big time. It's a dangerous place to be for 18 year old boys dating younger teens.

Many ways around that too, by the way - was your Dad under 18? And I think the family has to be the one to bring the charges, maybe your grandparents just didn't want to involve the authorities - I sure as hell wouldn't.
"Courage & knowledge always triumph over fear & ignorance"


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Jackinthebox
User ID: 669566
7/5/2009 9:14 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

I did state my case.

I agree that a life sentence for 'luring' a teen is harsh.

But if this guy knew he was after a 15 year old girl (and by the way how old was this guy?) then more than likely this is NOT the first time he has done this.

What I am saying is, there should be standardization within our court system. I hate our court system, it is unjust and unfair. I have personally seen two people who committed the same crime receive vastly different sentences.

But I think what we are discussing here are actually two different things:

1. Child molestation (even a 15 year old girl with breasts is a child)

2. Our crappy court system.

So, in order to fully understand my point you have to separate the two. The same guy in a different jurisdiction, and with a different prosecutor may have gotten a different sentence.

Jack, do you have children?
 Quoting: Woman On The Edge


I was a foster parent.

We have no idea wether or not this guy had "priors." And if he did, I would agree that it should be taken into account. But dont go assuming that this guy had prior offenses "of course."

Plain and simple, without priors, I say 5 years probation, and no computer access. Or at least, computer acceess that is regulated and closely monitored.
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
Jackinthebox
User ID: 669566
7/5/2009 9:17 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

Any 15 year old girl who has sex with old men should have her parents locked up for raising a slut.


my mother had me when she was 15 yrs of age...dum ass..so why didnt they lock my dad up for 25 yrs..because standards change and make a whole mountain out of a mole hill.so you continue to support the hierachy.dik face



Hey - statutory rape has been around for a long time. If you are over 18 and screw around with a 16 year old you can get busted big time. It's a dangerous place to be for 18 year old boys dating younger teens.

Many ways around that too, by the way - was your Dad under 18? And I think the family has to be the one to bring the charges, maybe your grandparents just didn't want to involve the authorities - I sure as hell wouldn't.
 Quoting: Woman On The Edge


That's not necessarily true. Some states its legal with a 16 or even 14 yo as long as your're not over 21.

When I was a teen the police couldn't even tell me what the law was, and of course, they wanted it that way. So they could arrest me at their discretion, not law.
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715777
7/6/2009 4:18 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

Any 15 year old girl who has sex with old men should have her parents locked up for raising a slut.


my mother had me when she was 15 yrs of age...dum ass..so why didnt they lock my dad up for 25 yrs..because standards change and make a whole mountain out of a mole hill.so you continue to support the hierachy.dik face



Hey - statutory rape has been around for a long time. If you are over 18 and screw around with a 16 year old you can get busted big time. It's a dangerous place to be for 18 year old boys dating younger teens.

Many ways around that too, by the way - was your Dad under 18? And I think the family has to be the one to bring the charges, maybe your grandparents just didn't want to involve the authorities - I sure as hell wouldn't.
 Quoting: Woman On The Edge


well my dad was 17..my mother just turned 15 .so she would have been 14 when she screwed behind a bus shelter..sorry for being a twat in the last paragraph ..its just a sensative subject
Bingo Bob
User ID: 645156
7/6/2009 5:28 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

compare apples to apples:

she is a child, he is an adult teacher.

hell, how many men have done this successfully? Tell girls they have to act a certain way, then label them as sluts. tsk tsk.

Men have double standards...all the way, around.
 Quoting: bed


Men have double standards????

UHHHHH NO - the difference is what crimes are REPORTED AND PUBLICIZED.

Here is a list of RECENT RAPISTS AND PEDOPHILES AMONG FEMALE TEACHERS.

[link to www.worldnetdaily.com]

The Big List: Female teachers with students

[link to www.worldnetdaily.com]

[link to www.worldnetdaily.com]

[link to www.worldnetdaily.com]


Men are the problem huh? Men have the double standard? Women are "innocent victims" as usual?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 719411
7/6/2009 10:03 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

Debateable. In this case though, I have to concede that there was in fact a victim. He was in fact talking to a teenager on the other end of that internet chat. And if he knew it, then yes, I agree that it is a crime, and he should be punished. I would think that 5 years of probation and being added to the sex offender registry would sufficiently destroy the life of a teacher, and leave him in a position to be monitored regularly.


my god what planet are you from.. my mother gave birth to me at 15 yrs of age .so she would have had sex at 14,did my dad go to prison no he did not....... never mind just chatting on the internet wtf..next thing you know,, is life inprisonment for thinking about robbing a bank..my god
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User ID: 714697
7/6/2009 11:28 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

No I don't know the guy. But what difference does that make? "Justice is blind." I don't care who it is, a life sentence for this is beyond inappropriate.

And of course I was generalizing a bit above there with the example of punishment overkill, but I'm sure you see my point.
 Quoting: Jackinthebox


I would have probably made the point easier on the soul reading it, but my reaction was interesting. (sort of like the judge's point is over-reacting to you...and you want it easier on your soul) Suprisingly I was angry at your tactics...once again. I am certain we might share some human traits, but to understand another human completely is impossible.

Some days your posts vibrate negative resentment for any authority. Other days you generate a compassion beyond compare. Maybe it is my perception, or maybe it is reality. hf

With that measure, how can one know the intent of another?

If he is sentenced with life imprisonment, I'll reward your eagerness to justify your tactic, but if he is guilty of luring innocent girls from the classroom into the bedroom, then the alpha-male is a dieing myth. I wouldn't expect him to understand his crime.
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7/6/2009 11:35 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

If convicted, Cavaluzzi faces a possible life sentence.
lillie8
User ID: 689157
7/6/2009 11:52 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

I read this article thinking, "ho hum, same old," until I got to the end. Then I was like WTF?! Are they kidding here? A LIFE sentence for talking to a teen on the internet? I mean come on now. I have no love for child molesters, and if he HAD molested the kid I would be the first one to call for castration. But I mean come on here. A little extreme? Now it's true that he probably won't get a life sentence, but why the hell should that even be on the table?

WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. -- A Pelham Middle School teacher has pleaded not guilty to a charge that he tried to lure a 15-year-old girl he met online into having sex with him.

Gregg Cavaluzzi entered the plea Thursday in U.S. District Court in White Plains. A judge ordered Cavaluzzi to undergo a psychiatric examination, to help determine bail conditions.

Cavaluzzi taught seventh-grade social studies in Pelham. He previously coached lacrosse in Pleasantville, N.Y., and Ridgefield, Conn. He also has worked in New York City schools.

Pelham Superintendent Dennis Lauro says police found no students at risk.

Attorney Clinton Calhoun says his client suffers from depression and cocaine addiction.

If convicted, Cavaluzzi faces a possible life sentence.


[link to www.nypost.com]
 Quoting: Jackinthebox



While I agree that a life sentence is harsh, I also wonder about a cocaine addict teaching children, and if he had been successful in hooking up with the teen, would he have molested her?

He's innocent until proven guilty, but adults need to use better judgment.

I'm sure he could have gotten sex from an adult female if he chose, but apparently some men and women like to have sex with children.The internet has made this easier.

I know some 15 year old girls look older, I did at that age, but I was still 15.

I wonder what a grown man could have been talking to a 15 year old about? The economy, or current events? Let's face it....we know where he was headed.

Still, life in prison. No. Intent to have sex with a child, if proven....I really don't know what is fair, but he's very lucky he got busted before he molested her.
Big girls need BIG guns.
chipleyfla Subscriber
User ID: 646238
7/6/2009 12:10 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

Castration for thought crimes eh?




FUCK YOU TOO, JACKTARD.


You don't understand...


You're all the reason why this world is going to hell.


Especially you, Jack. You jobless loser.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious

Are you guys forgetting that just a generation or two ago, most 14-16 year olds married much older men every day. My grandmother was 14 when she married my grandfather during the 1930's. That was the norm for most of America. Only now do we criminalize a 22 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend.
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7/6/2009 12:21 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

Are you guys forgetting that just a generation or two ago, most 14-16 year olds married much older men every day. My grandmother was 14 when she married my grandfather during the 1930's. That was the norm for most of America. Only now do we criminalize a 22 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend.
 Quoting: chipleyfla


That doesn't make it right. I wish my mother and grandmother had been reinforced to continue their education instead of serving and birthing. The world's male society has got to let go of projecting servitude onto females.



I think our current culture is trying to use laws to compensate for past problems. Our culture needs to establish one objective. Currently we have sexuality ads with young people selling clothes, and we have judges like this one trying to get men to grow up and stop soliciting sex from minors...especially if they are a forth grade teacher.
Woman On The Edge
User ID: 711774
7/6/2009 6:23 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

No I don't know the guy. But what difference does that make? "Justice is blind." I don't care who it is, a life sentence for this is beyond inappropriate.

And of course I was generalizing a bit above there with the example of punishment overkill, but I'm sure you see my point.


I would have probably made the point easier on the soul reading it, but my reaction was interesting. (sort of like the judge's point is over-reacting to you...and you want it easier on your soul) Suprisingly I was angry at your tactics...once again. I am certain we might share some human traits, but to understand another human completely is impossible.

Some days your posts vibrate negative resentment for any authority. Other days you generate a compassion beyond compare. Maybe it is my perception, or maybe it is reality. hf

With that measure, how can one know the intent of another?

If he is sentenced with life imprisonment, I'll reward your eagerness to justify your tactic, but if he is guilty of luring innocent girls from the classroom into the bedroom, then the alpha-male is a dieing myth. I wouldn't expect him to understand his crime.
 Quoting: bed



Yeah, Jack's intention is always to get a reaction from his threads.

Ya see, I've recently under gone a bit of a change of opinion.
"Courage & knowledge always triumph over fear & ignorance"


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Woman On The Edge
User ID: 711774
7/6/2009 6:24 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

Castration for thought crimes eh?




FUCK YOU TOO, JACKTARD.


You don't understand...


You're all the reason why this world is going to hell.


Especially you, Jack. You jobless loser.

Are you guys forgetting that just a generation or two ago, most 14-16 year olds married much older men every day. My grandmother was 14 when she married my grandfather during the 1930's. That was the norm for most of America. Only now do we criminalize a 22 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend.
 Quoting: chipleyfla



This is not about marrying voluntarily an older fucking man.

It is about

1. Court systems + unfair

2. child molestation
"Courage & knowledge always triumph over fear & ignorance"


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Jackinthebox
User ID: 714951
7/7/2009 4:12 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

While I agree that a life sentence is harsh, I also wonder about a cocaine addict teaching children, and if he had been successful in hooking up with the teen, would he have molested her?

He's innocent until proven guilty, but adults need to use better judgment.

I'm sure he could have gotten sex from an adult female if he chose, but apparently some men and women like to have sex with children.The internet has made this easier.

I know some 15 year old girls look older, I did at that age, but I was still 15.

I wonder what a grown man could have been talking to a 15 year old about? The economy, or current events? Let's face it....we know where he was headed.

Still, life in prison. No. Intent to have sex with a child, if proven....I really don't know what is fair, but he's very lucky he got busted before he molested her.
 Quoting: lillie8


You're on a very slippery slope there. I hear a whole lot of "what if?" Regardless of his situation, where he works, his drug addiction, etc., and regardless of what "might" have happened if he had not been caught, the simple fact of the matter is that this man is facing a LIFE sentence for chatting on the internet.

"Knowing where he was headed" makes no difference. You can't put someone in prison for a crime they have not committed. But this is exactly what they want to do here. Today it's the online perv, so society has a knee-jerk reaction, and the goalposts take another big step toward fascism. Tomorrow it's me, for even talking about this. After all, everyone "knows" I'm a dissident, and a potential "terrorist."

And I'm not sure you what you mean by "he's very lucky." I don't see that a life sentence is very lucky at all.

wantout

Last Edited by Jackinthebox on 7/7/2009 at 4:14 PM
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
Jackinthebox
User ID: 714951
7/7/2009 4:21 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

Are you guys forgetting that just a generation or two ago, most 14-16 year olds married much older men every day. My grandmother was 14 when she married my grandfather during the 1930's. That was the norm for most of America. Only now do we criminalize a 22 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend.


That doesn't make it right. I wish my mother and grandmother had been reinforced to continue their education instead of serving and birthing. The world's male society has got to let go of projecting servitude onto females.



I think our current culture is trying to use laws to compensate for past problems. Our culture needs to establish one objective. Currently we have sexuality ads with young people selling clothes, and we have judges like this one trying to get men to grow up and stop soliciting sex from minors...especially if they are a forth grade teacher.
 Quoting: bed


Do you really think that sending this man to prison for the rest of his life will have any bearing on someone elses decision to chase after a teenager? Certainly not. Has sending millions of people to prison for the rest of their lives stopped the sale of cocaine? No, it has not.

And what the hell is that "serving and birthing" bullshit you just spouted there? You got something against a woman being a mother and housewife? Maybe your mother and grandmother WANTED to be housewives. It's too bad that that their own fellow women do not extend them the respect they deserve. You have been brainwashed Bed.

"Male society" does not project servitude on females. It's time famles stepped up and took responsiblity for themselves and their actions and stop blaming men for the problems of the world.
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
Jackinthebox
User ID: 714951
7/7/2009 4:23 PM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

This is not about marrying voluntarily an older fucking man.

It is about

1. Court systems + unfair

2. child molestation
 Quoting: Woman On The Edge


Agreed. I think we can all safely say, that if this man was in fact having explicit conversation with this girl, that his intentions were less than honorable.

But that STILL does no warrant a life sentence.
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
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7/8/2009 7:52 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

"Male society" does not project servitude on females. It's time famles stepped up and took responsiblity for themselves and their actions and stop blaming men for the problems of the world.
 Quoting: Jackinthebox


White man, black man, brown men...they all project servitude on the world...war, rape, incest..even the modern man's god is a male.


Are you sure you're living on earth?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 484854
7/8/2009 8:20 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

What?? You think a 15 year old child isn't innocent?? Maybe they all aren't... but they should be protected. FUCK YOU.

Real bright future under your rule, you fucking scumbag.

You make me fucking sick, all of you fucking rejects.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


When you consider that it wasn't that long ago, maybe a couple hundred years, when it was not uncommon for an older man to marry a young woman of that age, it does seem a bit harsh to throw anyone in jail for life for it today.

I am curious, though. If you knew of a 15-year old who murdered someone in cold blood, do you support the death penalty for 'the child'?
Sickandtired
User ID: 493500
7/8/2009 8:26 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

Well maybe he should try singing, dancing, grabbing his crotch, get a pet monkey, and plastic surgery may help.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 484854
7/8/2009 8:32 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

There is no reason why some one can't go for there own age or older specially when you are 20 and above.
 Quoting: coolhandluke74


Actually, the idea of dating someone of your 'own age' is a relatively new phenomena. It wasn't always the custom in the USA to have people married with only a year or two difference in age. The marriages were often an older male with a younger female. And when I say younger, 14 and 15 were certainly allowed.

Theories have been developed as to why this is the case now, and most theorists actually point their finger to the more segregated schools. As you may know, early school houses were often 'one room', where all grade levels co-mingled. And today, we instead divide up our kids into K thru 12th grade -- where they are pretty much encouraged to date people they are actually in class with.

Again, this is completely artificial to the human condition. We wouldn't behave like this, and we didn't behave like this, until we started dividing our schools up by grade levels.

I also find it interesting that you encourage people to find someone their own age, or older. Do you not realize that whenever someone finds someone older, by simple logical necessity, someone older has also found someone younger?
Claqra
User ID: 62203
7/8/2009 8:46 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

lol innocent children



What?? You think a 15 year old child isn't innocent?? Maybe they all aren't... but they should be protected. FUCK YOU.
Real bright future under your rule, you fucking scumbag.

You make me fucking sick, all of you fucking rejects.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious



You are right, just listening to the locals here suggests that they might quit being children when they turn 30. Hopefully they have also moved away from mom and dad by then too. We must protect and shelter the children, they are sensitive and need special attention, lest they grow up too quickly. In fact puberty must be delayed as long as possible. We are discussing eugenics right?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333904
7/8/2009 8:53 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

No wonder why the US has one of the largest prison population. IMHO you guys should relax a bit, the money could be spent on much more important things.
Claqra
User ID: 62203
7/8/2009 9:05 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

No wonder why the US has one of the largest prison population. IMHO you guys should relax a bit, the money could be spent on much more important things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 333904


Yep, here they jail the potential fathers and encourage the young women to raise their children in a single parent household. IMO, there is very little encouragement to create a loving successful marriage, instead threats of punishment prevail.
Jackinthebox
User ID: 714951
7/8/2009 11:50 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

"Male society" does not project servitude on females. It's time famles stepped up and took responsiblity for themselves and their actions and stop blaming men for the problems of the world.

. . .


White man, black man, brown men...they all project servitude on the world...war, rape, incest..even the modern man's god is a male.


Are you sure you're living on earth?
 Quoting: bed


Wow. You really are a man hater. War is a HUMAN pastime for one thing. Going back to the female Celtic war chiefs and the Amazons, right on up to today with female fighter pilots and ground troops.

And for you to sit there to lump all men in with rape and incest is just sick. You are a twisted demented person filled with hate. It's time to let go whatever happened to you and get on with your life.

And for the record, I believe God is androgynous.
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
Jackinthebox
User ID: 714951
7/8/2009 11:52 AM
Re: Life sentence for attempting to lure a teen for sex???Quote

No wonder why the US has one of the largest prison population. IMHO you guys should relax a bit, the money could be spent on much more important things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 333904

wantout
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
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