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Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansion

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entropy
User ID: 678498
7/3/2009 9:17 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

it's someones shadow.


where is the light source?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 645417

Good question too. In the longer video you see more of the hallway and it's not coming from that angle.
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~~**Nightfall**~~
User ID: 200257
7/3/2009 9:19 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Looks like Michael to me....walks with a slight hunch-over...same length of hair...same long/lanky body...

Yep, That's Michael. Probably safeguarding his house. Could be wanting to visit.
I cry
User ID: 703668
7/3/2009 9:22 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

NO. It's just his demon seeking to infect another.
~~**Nightfall**~~
User ID: 200257
7/3/2009 9:24 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

If that was a solid person walking by and it was just a shadow cast...how could the shadow go across the room without a solid form human also crossing that same room?

Hmm....

It's Michael. Hi Michael! :)
IscopeU
User ID: 645417
7/3/2009 9:25 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

it's someones shadow.


where is the light source?

Good question too. In the longer video you see more of the hallway and it's not coming from that angle.
 Quoting: entropy


I left in the kitchen (behind the camera part) to show that there is no light source.
Normally a news crew like this exist of a reporter, cameraman and sound man. We can safely assume that this is the case here. If there was a light source it would have come directly as a light off the camera.

Since there is no direct sunlight falling into the hallway. But we see a patch of sunlight in the kitchen we can also say that it's no shadow from the sun.

To create a shadow that long, the light source has to be very low. Head hight max. That clearly is nowhere to be found behind the camera man.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75343
7/3/2009 9:27 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

shadow people... 5 5 5
~~**Nightfall**~~
User ID: 200257
7/3/2009 9:28 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

shadow people... 5 5 5
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75343




Indeed....wrote a poem once about the Shadow Folk...under my old Pseudonym, Emily Nightingale.




Th' Shadaw Fowk Frae Far Beyon'



~~~~~~~~~~~


Th' Shadaw Fowk frae far beyon'
Cam bak tae whaur they aince belong'd
An' frae th' grav's they maun dae speak
an' e'en dae th' fluirboords craik

an' curtains blaw whaur flaws awa'
wee wisps of noo an' ither days
appearin' in th' nicht, an' th' mirk
in foosty kellars, aye, dae lurk

With slicht ay han', an' slicht ay e'e
thos nearbye shadaw fowk dae spy!
tae gi' oos greit wi' joost a sigh
tae suin returns th' bye an' bye

They hae a message fur th' ain
tae whom it waud descend upa'
ain moment's celestial whispered sang
yae see it thaur, an' then 'tis gang!

lak smolderin' in th' ethers fray
th' Shadaw Fowk, aye, bide tyme an' play
faer seal'd within thos chamber'd waas
sic' faint an' distant glimmerin caas

An' haur, an' thaur, an' everywhaur
th' shad's an' shadaws dae appear
tae wake th' deid! Th' sleepin' deid
faer they can see 'fit lays aheid

Oor sools dae linger fur tha' tyme
whaur Shadaw Fowk flichter in aur min's
Weel, aur they ony shadaws tru'
that flichter fur thit moment, through?

An sae, eh woonder wildly on
ye see them thaur, but then ther gang
th' haze betwixt th' licht sae quick
ain flick ay heaivens candlestick

(Faer, aur they ony secrits kept
sae fast within Akashic crypts?)

whaur carbon copi's, blin', aur clon'd
thos shadaw fowk, frae far beyon'
Tha' say, "we cam frae far an' near
O vaw tae ne'er forgit oos, dear."



by
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© May2002
IscopeU
User ID: 645417
7/3/2009 9:38 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Th' Shadaw Fowk Frae Far Beyon'

-snip-
 Quoting: ~~**Nightfall**~~


Wow that was a linguistic nightmare. I do speak a few languages, but this was hard. Is it a dialect?

btw, i did liked it.

Last Edited by IscopeU on 7/3/2009 at 9:39 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717591
7/3/2009 9:45 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Of course it is a shadow !

Show me a real ghost and I'll show you an honest politician...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711745

shadows are dark, ghosts are light
~~**Nightfall**~~
User ID: 200257
7/3/2009 9:46 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Th' Shadaw Fowk Frae Far Beyon'

-snip-




Wow that was a linguistic nightmare. I do speak a few languages, but this was hard. Is it a dialect?

btw, i did liked it.
 Quoting: IscopeU




Thanks....it's Erse, 250 year old Scottish dialect that is not really used anymore. I enjoyed learning it, but haven't dipped my pen in the ink for a few years now. Took a lot of energy to write those, I have many more if you are interested at [link to www.lassie.0catch.com]
Lady Wolf
User ID: 711521
7/3/2009 9:47 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Whatever it is, it sure is interesting to say the least! Does anyone know if CNN has officially commented or acknowleged this yet?? Great job on the editing OP and nice touch with the Thriller song:)
Remember...Real Truth Is Self Evident;)


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Mister Obvious SubscriberModerator
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 717434
7/3/2009 9:49 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

I have SEEN ghosts/apparitions.


It looks a lot like one.


I admit, I thought it was a ghost at first.


But I've watched it over and again, and I really think it's a shadow being cast by someone in the room at the end of the hall.


As far as being able to see the feet on the floor...


All I see is a reflection on the wood floor from the original figure.


I mean really...


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]


Look at all those windows, and the huge, oddly shaped rooms.


It's entirely possible and rather likely that it was a reflection cast by someone walking by the windows or thru the room.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 712562
7/3/2009 9:49 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Th' Shadaw Fowk Frae Far Beyon'

-snip-




Wow that was a linguistic nightmare. I do speak a few languages, but this was hard. Is it a dialect?

btw, i did liked it.




Thanks....it's Erse, 250 year old Scottish dialect that is not really used anymore. I enjoyed learning it, but haven't dipped my pen in the ink for a few years now. Took a lot of energy to write those, I have many more if you are interested at [link to www.lassie.0catch.com]
 Quoting: ~~**Nightfall**~~


Nicely done there Nightfall.

How about gaelic? I love gaelic just because it sounds and reads like a mystic language...
~~**Nightfall**~~
User ID: 200257
7/3/2009 9:51 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Th' Shadaw Fowk Frae Far Beyon'

-snip-




Wow that was a linguistic nightmare. I do speak a few languages, but this was hard. Is it a dialect?

btw, i did liked it.




Thanks....it's Erse, 250 year old Scottish dialect that is not really used anymore. I enjoyed learning it, but haven't dipped my pen in the ink for a few years now. Took a lot of energy to write those, I have many more if you are interested at [link to www.lassie.0catch.com]


Nicely done there Nightfall.

How about gaelic? I love gaelic just because it sounds and reads like a mystic language...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 712562



Actually, I just typed in Erse in google, and wikipedia says that it is Ersch, an Irish dialect, but I was told it was Scottish. I tend to believe wikipedia, because the man who taught it to me was a little skitso. lol
IscopeU
User ID: 645417
7/3/2009 9:52 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Of course it is a shadow !

Show me a real ghost and I'll show you an honest politician...

shadows are dark, ghosts are light
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717591


Well MJ went from dark to light in life. Maybe he did the same trick in the afterlife.
IscopeU
User ID: 645417
7/3/2009 9:54 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Thanks....it's Erse, 250 year old Scottish dialect that is not really used anymore. I enjoyed learning it, but haven't dipped my pen in the ink for a few years now. Took a lot of energy to write those, I have many more if you are interested at [link to www.lassie.0catch.com]
 Quoting: ~~**Nightfall**~~


Erse. Thank you. I put that link in my favourites and take a look at it when i have some time. Thanks for the sidetrack.
IscopeU
User ID: 645417
7/3/2009 10:00 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Whatever it is, it sure is interesting to say the least! Does anyone know if CNN has officially commented or acknowleged this yet?? Great job on the editing OP and nice touch with the Thriller song:)
 Quoting: Lady Wolf


Thanks :)

I don;t know about Cnn though. I'm actually trying to find a way to contact Ted Rowland.
TORCHWOOD
User ID: 659181
7/3/2009 10:07 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

I can never tell if you people are being serious or just playing around.
:-)
IscopeU
User ID: 645417
7/3/2009 10:10 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

I have SEEN ghosts/apparitions.


It looks a lot like one.


I admit, I thought it was a ghost at first.


But I've watched it over and again, and I really think it's a shadow being cast by someone in the room at the end of the hall.


As far as being able to see the feet on the floor...


All I see is a reflection on the wood floor from the original figure.


I mean really...


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]


Look at all those windows, and the huge, oddly shaped rooms.


It's entirely possible and rather likely that it was a reflection cast by someone walking by the windows or thru the room.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


Clearly i'm not going to talk you out of this, and that's fine. Based on what's said here people can make up there own mind.

The house is absolutely stunning. I really love it. You're right, it's huge and oddly shaped. But not in a distasteful way.
IscopeU
User ID: 645417
7/3/2009 10:11 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

I can never tell if you people are being serious or just playing around.
 Quoting: TORCHWOOD


Maybe try asking?
IscopeU
User ID: 645417
7/3/2009 10:18 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

I'll be in voice chat if you want to discuss this further.
IscopeU
User ID: 645417
7/3/2009 11:34 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Shameless self-bump.
~~**Nightfall**~~
User ID: 200257
7/3/2009 11:35 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Shameless self-bump.
 Quoting: IscopeU



I'm with ya there....bumpity bump bump :)
GenerationX
User ID: 709154
7/3/2009 11:49 PM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

you can see the light reflection from a window on the left and right on the fireplace.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 631867
7/4/2009 12:39 AM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Looks like Michael to me....walks with a slight hunch-over...same length of hair...same long/lanky body...

Yep, That's Michael. Probably safeguarding his house. Could be wanting to visit.
 Quoting: ~~**Nightfall**~~


There is a clear shadow on the floor. Ghosts can't cast shadows...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 631867
7/4/2009 12:40 AM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

it's someones shadow.


where is the light source?

Good question too. In the longer video you see more of the hallway and it's not coming from that angle.
 Quoting: entropy


The shadow is being cast by the window behind the person
~~**Nightfall**~~
User ID: 200257
7/4/2009 12:40 AM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

Looks like Michael to me....walks with a slight hunch-over...same length of hair...same long/lanky body...

Yep, That's Michael. Probably safeguarding his house. Could be wanting to visit.


There is a clear shadow on the floor. Ghosts can't cast shadows...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 631867



How can you know, for sure...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716963
7/4/2009 12:52 AM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

I saw that video, and there were people just right outside that room in question, MJ's room. That room had alot of floor to ceiling windows and french doors. People were standing out there and that shadow is undoubtedly one of them walking and casting their shadow in this video.

Watch the entire house walkthrough whenever they enter that room and you'll see what I mean.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716963
7/4/2009 12:53 AM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

I much rather it be MJ coming back as the Thriller though. :nod:
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 645417 (OP)
7/4/2009 1:26 AM
Re: Michael Jackson's ghost inside his mansionQuote

you can see the light reflection from a window on the left and right on the fireplace.
 Quoting: GenerationX


The apparition is not only in the light reflection spot, it is not bound by it. What you expect when someone is walking past a window.
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