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HAARP in IRAN

 
DON´t THINK SO
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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If this had been a HAARP-induced event, don´t you think they would have gone all-out and reduced the place to gravel?
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12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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This is just a back door warning to let them know what is coming if the keep spitting into the wind.
J 5
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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Bingo! The invasion is in progressssssssss!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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You DO realize that earthquakes happen naturally every once in a while, and Iran is a tad prone to them, right?

But some advanced earthquake weapon seems more reasonable to you?
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12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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HAARP is technological bogeyman.

The only damage it is capable of is to the minds of those who believe and therefore are afraid of it.

You have no evidence of its use as a weapon. There is no insider information, there isn´t even any credible information concerning HAARP.

Yet you are willing to assume that nature no longer is the source of natural phenomenon.

Believe me there is enough to concern onself with without making up new monsters.

The real ones wear business suites and control money and armies.

If you´re wondering why there is an increase in geological and meteorological activity ask yourself where the increase in energy comes from.

I´ll give you a clue. When you add energy to an experiment it must come from outside. A test tube full of water won´t boil without the presence of a flame.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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Tesla started this and HAARP plans on finishing it.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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There is much we are not privy to and neither are those suits you speak of, it is much bigger than them.
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12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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It wasn´t HAARP. If it were it would have happened at a sensitive military installation and been more of a precision strike.
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12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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It wasn´t HAARP. If it were it would have happened at a sensitive military installation and been more of a precision strike.
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Dude you don´t even know if HAARP is a weapon or not, no evidence just hand waving conjecture. Yet you suggest that if it HAD been HAARP, it would have been a precision strike.

Cart before the horse. You need to show that HAARP is capable of anything like that first.
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12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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Just google HAARP and death ray and you will have your proof how it is possible. FOr instance:

"by Dan Eden
Editor´s Note: Many articles have been written about HAARP. What this author wishes to make clear is that he believes HAARP is not the actual facility designed to be used as a military system but a "front" or "red herring" facility which allows the authorities to deny important questions about its purpose and operation. The real facility is located in Poker Flats, North of Fairbanks, Alaska. Please read the Congressional Executive Summary which is provided here in full for the truth.

Albert Einstein´s theories of relativity and the development of atomic energy are seen as the pinnacles of Twentieth Century technology. But Bernard Eastlund´s discoveries, when they are eventually disclosed, will render many of Einstein´s innovations obsolete.

You´ve probably never heard of Bernard Eastlund. If the US military has their way, you probably won´t. He´s a very private physicist with a small company in Houston. In the mid-80´s, Eastlund invented and patented a technology that will nevertheless reshape our lives, for better or for worse, whether we like it or not.

Last month, ViewZone ran a photograph that was sent to us for identification (see Unusual Photographs). We received many wild explanations, from underground alien bases to ancient city streets. But a handful of anonymous e-mails were consistent. These described the long, parallel, perfectly straight lines as part of an antenna complex used to communicate with submerged submarines. These same e-mails spoke of "death rays" that could blast distant locations with lethal electromagnetic radiation.

The photograph was eventually believed to be an ELF (an acronym for Extremely Low Frequency) antenna installation, designed for submarine communication. There is one almost identical to the photograph in Michigan. Since our anonymous informants seemed to be so knowledgeable, we were curious about their claims of a "death ray" installation located somewhere in Alaska. Our informants directed our attention to something called HAARP (High Frequency Active Aurora Ionospheric Research Program).

HAARP is a military project based on Eastlund´s discoveries. It is a technically difficult program to discuss with non-scientists and, as such, it has eluded the spotlight of the popular press. In addition, HAARP has been maintained partially as a clandestine project, operated by the US Navy. The information that is made available to the public is carefully worded to make HAARP appear as a bland, harmless, unclassified, atmospheric research facility.

This public image is maintained, in part, through a website, complete with a reassuring, updated, digital photograph, showing dozens of motionless aluminum dipole antennae at their remote Alaskan base. Public statements speak about "better understanding the ionosphere," a layer of Earth´s atmosphere about 60-90 Km. high. They are polite when questioned, but stick to their "harmless research" stories, despite contradictions in the press and in publicly available documents. In preparation for this article, ViewZone contacted HAARP. Not only did they deny that the facility was doing military work, but they also diminished the work of Dr. Eastlund, implying that he knew very little about his own discovery.

Eventually everyone will know about Bernard Eastlund and his work. It will someday be taught in schools. His technology will impact every living thing. But this will have to wait for the military, who own his valuable patents, to release Eastlund´s work for humane applications. For the time being, this work is buried in the secretive work of HAARP.

To completely understand Eastlund´s work, you must first understand how and why HAARP works. This is not an easy task. But we´ll try to keep it simple."

[link to www.viewzone.com]

Look a bit further down your nose to see it.
babbz
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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this was not a haarp induced strike but light forces at work who are setting off chains of events to stop much larger quakes. the planets are really lined up this time, many have talked about the lineage of the planets for the past 5 years but today is the day it really occurs, the planets are in a straight line for the first time in recored histroy, the last time this happend the pyramids were built, the plates around the globe are being effected by this tremendously,the only folk who should be worried is the folk in california as there is a darkness surrounding that state like never seen before, the soil is really soft and the plates are breaking like crackers in your hand, it is known by the galactic federation as the dusting of the earth, by tomoorw expect to hear about huge huge dust storms in the mid U.s.. but the main headlines will be titled the calamity in cali ...guidence
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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*You DO realize that earthquakes happen naturally every once in a while*

they occur much much less then you´ll ever think. why? because tptb fed us the nonsens that they occur regulary and back their claims up with HAAAAAAAAAAARP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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"they occur much much less then you´ll ever think. why? because tptb fed us the nonsens that they occur regulary and back their claims up with HAAAAAAAAAAARP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Are you insane? What about the quakes over the course of thousands of years that have been documented in that region.

In fact Iran, according to the UN, is the world´s most active earthquake region, with at least one earthquake every day.

LOL dude you have issues.
Anonymous Coward
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"Just google HAARP and death ray and you will have your proof how it is possible"

So now possibility and conjecture equate to truth? You realize that HAARP is the bogeyman of the conspiracy world and blamed for everything from earthquakes to hurricanes. The fear mongering is SO complete, some people just assume that any earthquake in Iran, the most earthquake prone nation on Earth, just must be man made simply because there´s political differences between the US and Iran. Sounds like ideology, not real science.

You can read whatever you want about theory. HAARP may very well be what you say it is, but if you think the site you posted somehow ´proves´ it is, then you are mistaken.
JJ
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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To all those people who are claiming that people who think this may be HARRP induced are crazy I give you this in case you have forgotten...It is a press briefing with former Sec of Defense William Cohen...pay close attention to the last few lines in it...then go and debunk it all you want fools:



DoD News Briefing; Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen Monday, April 28, 1997 - 8:45 a.m. EDT:
[...]
Q: Let me ask you specifically about last week´s scare here in Washington, and what we might have learned from how prepared we are to deal with that (inaudible), at B´nai Brith.

A: Well, it points out the nature of the threat. It turned out to be a false threat under the circumstances. But as we´ve learned in the intelligence community, we had something called -- and we have James Woolsey here to perhaps even address this question about phantom moles. The mere fear that there is a mole within an agency can set off a chain reaction and a hunt for that particular mole which can paralyze the agency for weeks and months and years even, in a search. The same thing is true about just the false scare of a threat of using some kind of a chemical weapon or a biological one. There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It´s real.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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*What about the quakes over the course of thousands of years that have been documented in that region.*

thats what they tell you, but is it´s in no way verifiable.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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and dont forget all the nuclear testing over the years, also the many many tests we dont know about.
Anonymous Coward
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before we go to war there is always an earthquake in the country we want to nail..Afg,Iraq....Iran
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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*before we go to war there is always an earthquake in the country we want to nail..Afg,Iraq....Iran*

exactly! good thinking!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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Man made signature is a given here, plus the big front that was pushed in after soaking the entire area, making rescue more difficult.
Department of the Navy is an organization that has little to do with the navy. Check it out.

Even the Russians aren´t this cruel. Sure they are bombarding the west with big storms now but they didn´t set off the San Andreas fault as a precursor.




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[link to groups-beta.google.com]
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(Post by R. Collins giving credit to Bill Moore as the major researcher in regard to the chart. Post can be found in its entirety at the link above.

"Robert Collins Oct 18 1996, 12:00 am Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo, alt.alien.visitors, alt.paranet.skeptic, alt.ufo.reports, alt.alien.research, alt.conspiracy.area51")

The chart reads much better at the link. This page seems to be lining up to the left and not centering where intended.

"[ orgchart.txt ]

Mj-12/OROCA Panel Organizational Chart reported
for the years 1984-85

Note:The reader is directed to
glossary of names below for help
in reading this.

** {PRESIDENT}**
*
Special Adv Committee<<<<*
to President on "Alien" *
matters *
*

{FEMA}
Special Facilities Division____Note : This office
Cover Office had a War Plan
* called Majestic:
* A good cover??
*
*
*
NSC ----------------------- Mj-12/OROCA Pnl ----------------- White House
* * (Chaired by Vice * Intel Unit
SClll * President at times) * Est 1960s
* * *
* * LANL:Special Div;
* * Ft Huachuca; Area 51
* * and White Sands ?
* *
Special Group in *
Naval Observatory>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It uses other Orgs
ran operations * to support itself
for Mj-12/OROCA *
Pnl etc *
*
NSA ----------------------- Project Aquarius ----------------- CIA/Deputy
Umbrella Dir/DCD
*
*
*
DOD-----IDA
*
*
*
DARPA ---------------------------- DIA ----------- DC5 --------Deputy Dir,
^ * Imagery Policy, Area
^ * 51 Admin
Para Psych *
Unit: Formely *
with FTD *
*
*
Army MI -------------------------- ONI -----------AFIS--------- AFOSI/PJ
* (analysis, Op Arm Special Projs
* interpretation, *
901st MI and Admin support) *
* *
* AFSAC_______________
* * *
* * *
* Det 22/security for *
* Mj-12 *
* *
* *
SAFSS NISC 1127th Intel
* (Naval Intell Support) Unit (old
* * name) *
*--SAS: note: * *
* * Published Aquarius AF/SAS Proj Moodust
* * Doc. * *
* * * *
* 7113th Squad 15 Three Brs
* SAS * dealt with
* * UFOs under
1035th SP GP 16 or 21 Moondust
Field Activities *
Group * # Note: See
* * Clifford
AFTAC Alb NM Unit, Bio Aspects Stone´s
* Pubs on
* Moondust
1159th or 57th
Tech Ops

Glossary of names:

FEMA___Federal Emergency Management Agency: Use to be OEP

NSC____National Security Council

SClll__Special unit under NSC dealing with "Alien" matters

NSA____National Security Agency

LANL___Los Alamos National Labs

IDA____Institute for Defense Analysis

DARPA__Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency

DIA____Defense Intelligence Agency

FTD____Foreign Technology Division

CIA____Central Intelligence Agency

Army MI_ Military Intelligence

ONI____Office of Naval Intelligence

AFIS___Air Force Intelligence Service

AFOSI__Air Force office of Special Investigations

AFSAC__Air Force Special Activities Center

NISC___Naval Intelligence Support Center

SAFSS__Secretary of the Air Force Space Systems

SAS____Special Activities Sector under SAFSS

AFTAC__Air Force Technical Applications Center

Closing Remarks: Its important again to remind the readers that
this organizational chart is only being reported: And it can
almost certainly be said that this "org chart" has changed
substantially since the reporting period of 1984-85. This
chart was primarily constructed from FOIA documentation and
Gov Intel sources for the years 1978 thru 1985. The dotted
lines and stars that tie these organizations together are
not meant to give the idea that the whole or even a large
part of the organization is involved in UFO/Alien matters:
It may only be a handfull in some cases for each organization.
Also, the chart is not meant primarily to convey a rigid chain
of command but rather, a cooperative effort amongst the
organizations.

The reader, I think, will note the prominence of the Navy in
this chart: Perhaps unknown to a lot of our "UFO buffs" and
others is the "reported facts" of just how deeply involved
the Navy is in this subject area. The reported depth met
or exceeded that of the Air Force."
loveslove
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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HAARP induced earthquakes to force all countries over the World to join the satanic New World Order? scratching

Would be nothing new under the sun.... many tried... but history tells that every Imperium have fallen sooner or later... this NWO too will fall if it ever rise at all...

peace
hf
zacksavage
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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I love this joint!!

I was thinking the same thing this morning and here is a thread to prove I am not yet completely insane!


woohoo





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12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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good thinking zack! cheer
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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HAARP look it up and read on what eastlund says about it-he did work on it for several yrs-he was in charge and even some of his patents are specifically for defense. Read the book

Angels Don´t Play This HAARP

The majority of contracts are issued to defense contractors and/or the defense industry---

Many may think it is all benign-they do not get it nor have they researched enough. when you start playing with GH energy and blasting the ionosphere and magnetosphere-you have opened the door to real terror-watch and see
It is a real threat playing with bioplasma and unknown electric potential.
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YES IS ANOTHER STRANGE COINCIDENCE!! HOW CONVENIENT, US IS MENACING IRAN AND BOOM AN EARTHQUAKE POP JUST THERE AND KILL-

WHAT HAARP ARE FOR THEN? TO THE SAVANT THAT TELL THE OTHER THEY DONT KNOW ANYTHING TELL US WHAT HAARP ARE FOR? WE ALL KNOW THAT THEY ARE DEVICE THAT CAN MODIFY THE CLIMATE AND WHO KNOW WHAT ELSE THEY CAN DO IN COMBINATION WITH CHEMTRAILS.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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it´s revenge for the california rainfall / mudslides
MasterBlaster
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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All I can say is that HAARP WORKS - BUT - We have not been very successful at trianglating a direct hit yet - or should I say our aim is still off.

For example: We might say lets pop Iran with a wake up call and accidentally induce a quake somewhere like - oh let´s say the Indian Ocean. We have to try and not piss off any of our few friends. Especially the few that know we can do this. And the NK is not a place to practice bucause a miss will have a big wave headed for the west coast.

No, sorry but the Iran quake was just a quake but it makes for good possibilities in the future. Besides, if would have done it you would have seen something MUCH bigger than a 6.4
On land a HAARP blast will have major land upheaval (underwater, there is much more pressure and thus more difficult to have major faulting unless you can use the magnetic waves to reverse a field. If this field is over a fault, then you could get a shift of roughly 33-50 feet and a lift of 15-25 feet). Sometimes you might get lucky but for now our aim is not so good.

Keep an eye open for the possibility of other events in the future because there might be some similarities to past events. After all, practice makes perfect.

Over&Out
idol harobed
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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zacksavage
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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I can tell by the dancing Tony that idol in intrigued.







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Dr P
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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Maybe one of the HAARP-phobic woo-woos could explain just exactly how HAARP can cause an Earthquake. And Cohen´s fantasies don´t constitute proof of anything...not that he ever mentioned HAARP in his famous (or infamous) statement.

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