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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 750774
8/26/2009 1:47 AM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Do you mean to tell me, all wickedness will be removed from the face of this Planet, in my life time, even at the door?
That sounds so wonderful, I have been waiting for this for a very long time.
And finally, we Americans are going to get our just deserve!
So tell me, how will all the thief's, and all the liars stand in their day of calamity?
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| Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 752595
8/26/2009 1:49 AM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE DECEPTION
ABSTRACT
The pre-tribulation rapture theory that says the church is raptured before the 7 year tribulatin period is a lie because:
1. Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father and will not leave heaven until the Father put's Christ's enemies under His feet which occurs when Jesus comes again to fight at Armageddon at the end of the tribulation.
2. Jesus says in Matthew 24 that after the tribulation He will come in the clouds of heaven to gather the elect.
3. The rapture occurs at the last trumpet which is the seventh trumpet of Revelation when God establishes His kingdom on earth.
4. The first resurrection occurs after the tribulation, so the rapture which occurs after the resurrection of the dead in Christ cannot occur before then.
Please read the article for details and further elaboration.
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Around the 1820's, J.N. Darby developed the theory of the pre-tribulation secret rapture. Now before this, most of the church believed in the post-tribulation rapture. Even now, the post-tribulation rapture theory (or post-trib for short) is dominant in most of the world but not in America where the pre-tribulation rapture theory (or pre-trib for short) is dominant. So did Darby discover a great doctrinal truth which had remained hidden from the church for 1800 years? Or was a major deception perpetrated on the Christian church by Darby and the pre-trib proponents?
The pre-trib theory asserts that the church will be raptured before the last seven years of tribulation. These last seven years of tribulation are considered Daniel's 70th week of years (Daniel 9:24-27). The theory goes that the last seven years of tribulation start with the anti-christ making a convenant with many, presumably Israel. Then after 3.5 years the anti-christ goes into the temple and declares himself to be God creating "the abomination that causes desolation". The last 3.5 years are known as the "great tribulation" and are the worst times ever in human history. The seven years of tribulation period culminates with with the Lord Jesus Christ coming in the clouds of heaven, with the holy angels and his saints, to defeat the armies attacking Israel at the battle of Armageddon and establishing the kingdom of God on earth. Those who believe the rapture occurs in the middle of the tribulation period (3.5 years into the 7 year period) are called mid-tribbers since they believe in a mid-tribulation rapture. Those who believe the rapture happens at the end of the seven year tribulation period when the Lord Jesus Christ comes on the clouds of heaven are called post-tribbers since they believe in a post-tribulation rapture.
Daniel 9:24-27 (King James Version)
24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Well, the pre-tribber, mid-tribbers and post-tribbers can't all be right. But does it matter? If you believe as a Christian that you won't go through the worst seven year period of human history, then how much of a need do you have to prepare and be ready? Now aren't you likely to walk closer to God when you know you may undergo a serious trial of suffering sometime soon? Consider an an athlete who does not see himself competing anytime soon to one who understands he may be on call to enter an elite competition at any time. Who's likely to train better and keep himself in better shape? So I believe that the belief in the pre-tribulation rapture has influenced the Christian church to not keep watch and enter a time of complacency and slumber. The church must wake up before the hour of trial, just as Jesus told his apostles to be alert, watch and pray at the garden of Gethsemane.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 (King James Version)
13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Now the word "rapture" is not found in the Bible but refers to when the saints are "caught up" to meet the Lord Jesus Christ in the air and are with Him forevermore (1 Thessalonians 4:17). So are there any problems with the pre-tribulation rapture theory? Yes! Allow me to show you.
1. The Lord Jesus Christ is at the right hand of the Father until the Father places Christ's enemies under His feet which occurs at Christ's triumphant return at the end of the tribulation period to fight at Armageddon, "in the day of his wrath" (Psalm 110:5). So how then can Jesus Christ leave the right hand of the Father and come before the tribulation or even in the middle of the tribulation to rapture the church when during this time His enemies have not yet been subjugated? Also, Act 3:20-21 says that Jesus Christ must remain in heaven until the time of complete restoration which happens after the tribulation when He comes to defeat His enemies at Armageddon and establish the kingdom of God.
Psalm 110:1-6 (King James Version)
1The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
2The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
3Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
4The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
5The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
6He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.
Matthew 22:41-45 (King James Version)
41While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David.
43He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
44The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
45If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
Acts 3:20-21 (Amplified Bible)
20And that He may send [to you] the Christ (the Messiah), Who before was designated and appointed for you--even Jesus,
21Whom heaven must receive [and retain] until the time for the complete restoration of all that God spoke by the mouth of all His holy prophets for ages past [from the most ancient time in the memory of man].
2. The Lord Jesus Christ himself says in Matthew 24:29-31 that "after the tribulation of those days", then they shall see Him coming in the clouds of heaven and with the sound of a trumpet the angels will gather the elect from the four winds (of earth), and from one end of heaven to the other. So if He comes after the tribulation to gather His elect, which is the rapture, then how can the rapture come before or in the middle of the tribulation?
Matthew 24:29-31 (King James Version)
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
3. The rapture occurs at the last trumpet according to 1 Corinthians 15:51-52. So how can the last trumpet occur before or in the middle of the tribulation if in Matthew 24:29-31 Jesus says "after the tribulation" He will come in the clouds of heaven and He will send His angels to gather His elect "WITH A GREAT SOUND OF A TRUMPET"? The last trumpet cannot be before or during the tribulation if there is a trumpet after the tribulation. Also, in Revelation there are seven seals followed by seven trumpets. The seventh trumpet is the last one in Revelation or the Bible and it says in Revelation 11:15 that when the seventh trumpet is blown that the kingdoms of this world will have become the kingdoms of Christ. This is describing the trumpet when Jesus Christ comes in the cloud of heavens to defeat His enemies at Armageddon and establish the kingdom of God on earth (and yes the time when He comes to gather His elect). The seventh and last trumpet does not occur before or during the tribulation because the kingdom of God is not established on earth at that time. After the tribulation, at the seventh and last trumpet, Jesus Christ comes in the clouds of heaven with great power and glory and is seen by all, He comes with the shout of the arch-angel, sends His angels to gather His elect, first the dead in Christ and then the saints still on the earth, fights His enemies at Armageddon to save Israel and establishes the kingdom of God on earth.
1 Corinthians 15:51-52 (King James Version)
51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Revelation 11:15 (King James Version)
15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
4. In 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 we read that the rapture involves the ressurection of the righteous since it says that "the dead in Christ shall rise first". In Revelation 20:1-6 we see that those who did not worship the beast, nor his image, nor receive his mark and were martyred for the testimony of Jesus and for the Word of God, take part in the first resurrection. The "abomination that causes desolation" occurs when the anti-christ enters the temple in Jersualem (which has yet to be rebuilt) and proclaims himself to be God after the first 3.5 years of the 7 year covenant. This abomination starts the last 3.5 years known as the great tribulation where the anti-christ demands to be worshipped as God. So it's clear that these martyrs come out of the great tribulation since they refused to worship the anti-christ. So if the first resurrection occurs after saints have been martyred during the great tribulation how can the rapture, which is also a resurrection of the righteous, occur before or in the middle of the tribulation? If it were so then the first resurrection of the martyrs coming out of the great tribulation would not be the first resurrection. This would be a logical contradiction so it cannot be the case. There can be no rapture or resurrection before the first resurrection which happens after the great tribulation once Christ has come and the devil has been cast into the bottomless pit. Indeed, the first resurrection occurs at the rapture when Christ comes after the tribulation.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (King James Version)
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Revelation 20:1-6 (King James Version)
1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
5. If Jesus Christ comes in the air to rapture the church pre-trib or mid-trib and then comes at the end of the tribulation to fight at Armageddon then this describes a second and third coming of Christ, yet I've never met a Christian who believes in a third coming of Christ. If the rapture of the church and Christ coming to fight at Armageddon and establish God's kindom on earth occur after the tribulation at His second coming then there is no need for Him to come again in the clouds of heaven.
6. Jesus says in the Bible passages below that He will resurrect the righteous on the last day. Now the rapture time has the dead in Christ rising first, then the church on earth being caught up to meet Jesus in the air, so this is also a description of the ressurection of the righteous. So when does the rapture and the resurrection of the righteous occur? At the last day. The last day is not pre-tribulation nor mid-tribulation but post tribulation when Christ comes to raise the dead in Christ which is the ressurection of the righteous, gather His church on the earth, fight at Armageddon and establish God's kingdom on earth.
John 6:39-40 (King James Version)
39And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:54
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
7. How can the Lord Jesus Christ come before the tribulation when 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 clearly states that the Lord will not come before the son of perdition, that is, the anti-christ is revealed when he sits in the temple of God declaring himself to be God which occurs in the middle of the tribulation period and not before it?
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (King James Version)
1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
8. The pre-trib rapture is supposedly a secret rapture. Yet from the verses below it is clear that the rapture occurs when the Lord Jesus Christ appears and is revealed.
1 John 2:28 (King James Version)
28And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
Colossians 3:4 (King James Version)
4When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
1 Peter 5:4 (King James Version)
4And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.
1 John 3:2 (King James Version)
2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
2 Thessalonians 1:6-7 (King James Version)
6Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
7And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
1 Peter 1:13 (King James Version)
13Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
9. The pre-trib rapture theory argues that since no one knows the day or the hour of Christ's coming that it cannot be post-tribulation since then we would know it's 3.5 years from the son of perdition entering the temple of God and declaring himself to be God. But Jesus never said that no one except the Father would ever know the day or the hour of His coming but that no one knew at that moment the day or the hour. Furthermore, even if we couldn't know the day or the hour, we could still possibly know the week, month or general time period. The 45 day period between 1290 days and 1335 days after the abomination that causes desolation is set up spoken of in Daniel 12:6-13 may be the general time period of Christ's return. It is clear that we are to keep watch and that since we as believers are not in darkness, the day of Christ's return should not catch us by surprise.
Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Matthew 24:50
The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
Matthew 25:13
Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
1 Thessalonians 5:1-4 (King James Version)
1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Daniel 12:6-13 (King James Version)
6And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
7And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
8And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.
10. I have a friend who believes in the pre-trib rapture and when I explain to him that it is post-trib, he replies that he'll be raptured before the tribulation but he'll pray for me in heaven when I'm left behind. Perhaps he's joking around but if not, I hope he'll come to realize that if we both belong to God then we will be raptured at the same time. Believing in a pre-trib rapture does not make it true. My concern for him is like the ten foolish virgins, his lamp will run out of oil when he's left behind because there is no pre-trib rapture.
So why is the American church deceived concerning the rapture? Don't we serve an omniscient God who knows all things? Yes and God sends His servants the prophets and watchmen to warn and rebuke us, but many churches do not listen to the prophets and watchmen of YHVH rather instead they often persecute them. So for this reason God has given them their delusions that they might believe a lie because they would not hear Him when He spoke and the love of truth was not in them. Yet there are those who are YHVH's and will listen to His voice. Let those that have ears to hear, listen to the warnings God is giving. Shalom!
Isaiah 66:4
I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 (King James Version)
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
John 10:26-28 (King James Version)
26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 750774
8/26/2009 2:05 AM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
The pre-tribulation rapture theory that says the church is raptured before the 7 year tribulatin period is a lie Quoting: Watchman of Yahweh 752595
Ya think!?!?
What was your first clue Sherlock?
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 750774
8/26/2009 2:09 AM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Now all ya gotta do is show me where in Scripture, that says there will be 7 years of Tribulation?
It's not to hard to figure out, that no one is ever 100% correct at any time concerning any one thing.
Got it?
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 750774
8/26/2009 2:17 AM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
When you believe a lie, and when you profess those lies, you become a liar.
All Men are liars, no not one is Righteous.
So ya might wanna chill out a bit, eh!?!?
Just do your job, no need to cram it on anyone, OK!?!?
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| Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 752595
8/27/2009 8:11 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Steve Crowder 1998, Message from the Heartland
Awesome prophetic message on the deception of the church and mentions two bears will hit america: the bear on the stock market and the Russian bear, also wealth lost, famine and terror.
Warning Message To Babylon-America
[link to www.youtube.com]
P2 - Warning Message To Babylon-America
[link to www.youtube.com]
P3-Warning Message To Babylon-America
[link to www.youtube.com]
P4-Warning Message To Babylon-America
[link to www.youtube.com] |
| Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 752595
8/28/2009 2:26 AM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
I Saw The Russians Attack America
Henry Gruver - December 14, 1985
Quoted from:
[link to www.newzmaker.com]
"
I was in Wales on December 14, 1985. I went up on top of the Eagle Tower in the Caernarvon Castle. It had eight points on it. Each of the points on it were eroded eagles. This castle was built in the 12th century.
I was overlooking the Irish Sea toward the North Sea, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, the tip of Scotland, Greenland, Iceland, in that area. All of a sudden I was up above the earth looking down upon the earth like a globe. As I looked down on the earth, I saw all of these massive amount of all kinds of ships and airplanes. They were coming from up above Norway, out of this inlet. They headed down between the United States and Europe. They literally covered the whole Atlantic.
Then I wanted to see what was happening to the United States. I looked over on the globe at the United States. I saw coming out of the United States these radio communication towers. I saw the jagged lines like they draw to show that communications are coming out. All of a sudden, as I was looking down on them, they began to sprinkle down on the earth like dust. I thought, Oh, no! They are not getting through! They are not getting through! They don't know what is happening! They are totally oblivious!
Then I began to see all of these submarines emerging from under the surface. I was surprised at how close they were to our borders! They were in our territorial waters. Then I saw the missiles come out of them. They hit eastern coastal cities of the United States.
I looked over across the country where my family was over in the northwest side, and I saw the submarines. I saw the missiles coming out and hitting the western coastal cities.
I cried out and said, "Oh, God! Oh, God! When will this be, and what shall be the sign of its coming?"
I heard an audible voice speak to me and say, "When Russia opens her doors and lets the masses go. The free world will occupy themselves with transporting, housing, and feeding and caring for the masses, and will let down their weapons and cry peace and safety. Then sudden destruction will come. Then is when it will come."
That was December 14, 1985. Glastnost and Perestroika were unheard of at that time.
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| Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 752595
8/28/2009 3:21 AM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
VISION BY A.C. VALDEZ
Quoted from
[link to members.iglide.net]
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In 1929 I was preaching in Vancouver, British Colombia. I had gone to the 6th Avenue Church that seats 1,000 people. The old building is gone. I sat down on the platform and looked down at the congregation for the Sunday morning service. There were 18 people. I had crossed the continent from Los Angeles to get to that meeting--18 people in my first service. My first thought was, My Lord and my God, the nerve, asking me to come across the country to stand here in front of 18 people.
Now, that was my first thought. Now, I no sooner thought that when God spoke to my heart and said, "Son, I want you to comfort these people."
They needed comfort, Brother. He gave me the capacity to comfort them. I started preaching comforting words. If I had given way to the human, Brother, I would have skinned them alive and tacked their hides up on the wall. People in a condition like that don't need a skinning; they need comfort. God helped me. He poured in the oil and the wine. He helped me to comfort those people.
They began to cry all over the place, as they needed comfort. The tears began to stream down their cheeks. They had gone through a terrible trial in that city, and the name of "Pentecost" was in the newspapers of that city, and it wasn't very good. The things that they had put into the newspapers were enough to keep most anybody away. I had 18 people in the inside and thousands on the outside.
God began to work, and the Spirit began to come forth. By the following Sunday the place was well filled. The Holy Ghost began to bring them in. By the end of the third week they had to take down the partition that separated the coat room from the main auditorium to put more seats in that auditorium that seated a thousand. It packed out. They packed the place, standing up and down the winding stairs and outside of the church building and out into the street. The glory of God came down. Souls began to get saved, and the sick were healed.
We had a glorious victory over the world of flesh and the devil. The ministers were so happy. They said, "Lord, in spite of that death, you've given us victory."
Right in the middle of that victory, I stood in 6th Avenue Church one day with the power of God on me. All of a sudden the ceiling just disappeared.
Now, when I say "vision," my friends, I know that some visions are what the Bible calls "night visions," like in a dream. You will find that in the Bible. Dreams are also called "visions." Generally speaking, a vision is differentiated by what you see with your eyes open, that which you see when you are not asleep.
In this particular case I was standing on my feet, when all of a sudden the walls and the ceiling just faded right out. I began to see this vision, and the Lord showed me. I looked up and saw what answers to the description of an ICBM (Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile), just as real as any picture that you would see--or the real thing if you've ever seen one of those missiles. It was just as real as you would look upon one if it were right in front of you, two or three feet away!
I saw it. It was passing over a skim of clouds, not heavy clouds, but a thin skim of clouds. I was standing on the side of this mountain, a residential district. I was looking over into a bay area. It would appear like I was in Berkeley, if you've ever been to Berkeley, and the Berkeley hills. I was looking into the bay area toward San Francisco, the San Francisco Bay region, that direction.
I saw the freeway. I don't say that it was the Oakland freeway that is there today. I don't know where it was, my friends. I do know this, that I was standing on the side of this mountain, overlooking a huge metropolis, when I saw this missile directed toward the city; and suddenly, being electronically controlled, no doubt, it plummeted right down into the city and then exploded. Then I saw the fireball, which answers to the description of what I have seen in a civil defense film release of the first hydrogen bomb explosion.
This happened in 1929! The atom was not split until 1932! Yet I saw it as clear as I see you here tonight. There was a purpose in it. I have been warning people ever since that this thing is coming!
As the day approaches, my friends, I feel more vibrant than ever before! I have got to bear testimony to what I saw with my eyes! I have got to warn God's people that they must live in the Spirit and walk in the Spirit and be filled with the Spirit if they want God's protection in these last days!
I saw this thing blossom out in all of its beautiful colors. Did you ever see a picture of it? It is a beautiful sight, but it is a horrible sight. All of the colors of the rainbow you can see in that big ball as it swells out. Then the pressure that it creates following the explosion, it demolishes everything before it. It leaves a crater over 300 feet deep and over 2 miles across. It is capable of destroying a huge metropolis the size of New York City in one blast.
Even though there were no freeways in 1929, I saw freeways. I saw them run and jump in their cars to escape, but there was no escape! I saw the aftermath of this explosion. I saw all of the details.
The Spirit of the Lord picked me up. Like St. Paul, whether in the body or out of the body, I don't know! All I know is, my friends, that God took me and whisked me across that area where the bomb hit in the midst of that huge metropolis. There was nothing left. The center where it struck was molten, like molten glass. It wasn't, my friends, until I was carried way beyond the residential area that I began to see any sign of debris.
Finally, I came to what looked similar to snow or sand drifts piled up against the fences and buildings. I saw piles or iron, like broom straw, only much finer than broom straw. It was in piles and in patterns--everything completely destroyed!
Finally, way, way out, beyond what I felt was the residential area, I began to find signs of human beings, only in pieces--torsos, heads, hands, arms, and legs. They were scattered around everywhere!
The Spirit of the Lord carried me out farther. I began to find signs of life. People were running. Everybody was blind. (I didn't know in 1929 that if you are 35 miles away from the explosion and you happened to be looking in that direction, you would never see again. I didn't know that at that time.) Everybody was blind, my friends. They were running and screaming and bumping up against this and that and the other, bouncing back, children blind and screaming and crying out for their parents and parents for their children. The farther I went, the more the confusion, and the cries increased.
My friends, even tonight, while I am speaking to you, I can hear those cries! I can hear those cries, children and parents screaming out for one another! It was a terrible sight to behold! If I were to live 10,000 years, I know I could just close my eyes and hear those screams and see the terror that was written all over the faces of parents and children! A terrible sight, indeed.
Then, my friends, the Spirit of the Lord took me. Oh, I wonder how fast I was going. I could see the mountains and the hills just passing before me. I came sweeping down over a large valley. In the distance I could see, as I began to approach, a body of people that looked like tens of thousands. I don't know how many were there. It was a sea of people. Long before I got there, I could see. As I came down closer, I could discern them. They had their handkerchiefs. They were wiping their tears from their eyes.
Then for the first time I began to hear heavenly anthems. I could hear the Hallelujahs, in bass and tenor and soprano and alto, voices blending together. That mass of humanity was lifted together by the heavenly music. I came right down in the midst of them. There they were, God's people. This is what I saw, friends. They were all dressed up like they were ready for the Sunday service. Their hair was parted. Nothing was disturbed. There was no soil on their shirts. They were cared for so perfectly that everything was in order, my friends. Their faces were clean. Their clothing was clean. Everything was in order!
The only word you could use to describe them would be "meticulous" Meticulous! Glory to God! What a wonderful thing to be in the hands of God! I say that God is going to protect his people in these last days IF. . .they live in the Spirit and walk in the Spirit and keep filled with the Spirit!
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| Wizard's First Rule
User ID: 538739
8/28/2009 3:31 AM
 | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
What a bunch of nonsense. I've seen this same drivel churned out over the last 20 years and none of it ever happens. Half of the crap was stolen from Gordon Michael Scallion and other false futurists. Any "God" that punishes is no god, but simply the creation of people with a sick, sad, and warped sense of faith. Face it folks, the only major events that ever really happened were 9/11, New Orleans, and the tsunami ... and no one on GLP really predicted those events with 100% accuracy.
Rule #1: "Given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. People will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."
Rule #2: "The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. It sounds a paradox, but kindness and good intentions can be an insidious path to destruction. Sometimes doing what seems right is wrong, and can cause harm. The only counter to it is knowledge, wisdom, forethought, and understanding the First Rule."
Rule #3: "Passion rules reason. Letting your emotions control your reason may cause trouble for yourself and those around you."
Rule #4: "There is magic in sincere forgiveness, the magic to heal. In forgiveness you grant, but more so, in forgiveness you receive. Forgiving and being forgiven are powerful elements of healing for the soul. Forgiving others grants by the giving of forgiveness but more so one receives self healing by the necessity of letting go of bitterness through forgiveness of others."
Rule #5: "Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. People will lie to deceive you from what they truly mean to do. Watching the actions they take will prove their true intentions."
Rule #6: "Let logic be your only sovereign. Unlike reason, faith and feelings provide no boundary to limit any delusion, any whim. They are a virulent poison, giving the numbing illusion of moral sanction to every depravity ever hatched. Faith and feelings are the darkness to reason’s light. Reason is the very substance of truth itself. The glory that is life is wholly embraced through reason."
Rule #7: "Life is the future, not the past. The past can teach us, through experience, how to accomplish things in the future, comfort us with cherished memories, and provide the foundation of what has already been accomplished. But only the future holds life. To live in the past is to embrace what is dead. To live life to its fullest, each day must be created anew. As rational, thinking beings we must use our intellect, not a blind devotion to what has come before, to make rational choices."
Rule #8: "Deserve victory. Be justified in your convictions. Be completely committed. Earn what you want and need rather than waiting for others to give you what you desire."
Rule #9: "A contradiction cannot exist in reality. Not in part, nor in whole. To believe in a contradiction is to abdicate your belief in the existence of the world around you and the nature of the things in it, to instead embrace any random impulse that strikes your fancy - to imagine something is real simply because you wish it were. A thing is what it is, it is itself. There can be no contradictions. In reality, contradictions cannot exist. To believe in them you must abandon the most important thing you possess: your rational mind."
Rule #10: "Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. People who for whatever reason don't want to see the truth can be acutely hostile to it and shrill in their denunciation of it. They frequently turn their venomous antagonism on whoever dares to point out that truth ... To those seeking the truth, it's a matter of simple, rational, self interest to always keep reality in view. Truth is rooted in reality, after all, not the imagination."
Rule #11: "The rule unwritten. It is the secret of all life. It is the essence of life itself. You are a creator and master of your own reality. You ultimately make your own rules." |
| Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 752595
8/28/2009 1:35 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
To User ID: 538739
If you've been waiting 20 years for this no wonder you are tired of waiting. That is a long time to be waiting in human terms but not in Yahweh's terms where a thousand years is as a day. After I heard Lindsey William's relate how the oil executive told him America would experience a financial collapse that would take years to come out of, I've also been waiting for the dollar collapse. Yes we did get that 40% sell-off in the stock market in Sept-Oct 08, but I've been waiting for a dollar collapse since June of 08 and I'm getting tired of waiting for it. So I can just imagine how you must feel waiting 20 years for economic collapse and WW3. Us humans are just not that good at waiting it seems. We tend to give up hope after a while when our expectations are delayed.
As for these prophecies being rip-offs, I disagree. A.C. Valdez had vision of ICBMs in 1929. A.A. Allen and Zelma Kirkpatrick visions are from 1954. I'm rather sure this pre-dates Scallion. My point in bring out such old prophecies of Russia invading is to show for how long Yahweh has been warning America.
There are too many visions and prophecies of economic collapse and WW3 where Russia/China nuke and invade for me to think these are not true prophecies. I believe it's going to happen but it's the timeframe that's difficult to get at. Yet we have Thomas Gibson prophesying that by 2010 we will be at the brink of war, Matthew Stephen saying by 2012 we will see the demise of America, Amos Scaggs that by February 14, 2011 even the ultra rich will not be bankrupt but will have little money. So some prophecies indicate 2010-2012 as a critical timeframe. In addition, all we need to do is look at the natural to see that the economic collapse which comes first is already playing out with the stock market having gone down 40%. Yes it's rallied back vicisously which is a good indication it is only a bear market rally so be ready for the next leg down. The base money supply has been increased from $850 billion to about $3 TRILLION according to Mike Maloney just from pre-Sept 2008 to now so it's just a matter of time before that hits the economy as high inflation. And there may be more stimulus and more buyouts/bailouts ahead so it's even going to get worse. Mike Maloney projects gold going to $15,000 to adjust for the monetary expansion. If the government continues with the printing presses it's just a matter of time before China, Japan, Russia and OPEC pull support from the Treasury market. The Fed is already monetizing the debt and it's simply going to get more obvious until the dollar collapses. I've been waiting for the doom but have been disapppointed so far. But I reflected on my thinking, and decided I need to prepare for the dollar collapse but I don't look forward to it because many, many people are going to get hurt. In warning people, especially friends, it becomes apparent to me that old paradigms die hard and most people, probably the majority will not prepare. So I don't look forward to it, but I do believe it is coming. I hope you are prepared. I hope waiting 20 years doesn't stop you from preparing what not see to be coming upon us. What a pity to wait that long and give up and not prepare just before it happens. We no longer need prophecy to tell us the dollar will collapse because we can see the signs in the natural world. However, for WW3 it seems far enough away that people still don't believe the prophecies but just wait for Israel to get into a war against Iran. It won't be hard to see that that's the beginning of WW3.
May God bless you! |
| 2hamomelets
User ID: 759360
8/30/2009 1:32 AM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
all this stuff is fun. but we are so far ahead of all others that we have worse case scenario' prepared for all of this, the powers other than us would be in no more of an advantage as they would be debilitated as well. they dont have to means to attack us on land or sea as we are in the sea and in space with them and all over the world. this is why we do not isolate ourselves from the world. this is why we securely hold the most free nation in the world! one where you can be burned by a cup of coffee or slapped by a celebrity and sue for enough money to wipe your ass with for the rest of your life. we have become a country leaning a bit towards to many liberal activities but we will regroup. whether it is the doom of having obama and his admin. in office to wake people up or a cataclysmic social happening, we will proceed into the future! ignorance (liberlism), pathogens and media could be our achilles heel. |
| Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 752595
9/1/2009 9:55 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Prophecies of No Electricity (EMP)
Amos Scagg Prophecy
[link to amosprophecy.com]
"
Archive for July, 2008
EMP Situation
I was involved in an EMP situation .Electro Magnetic Pulse. An Electrical Blackout that lasts for ????…
There was really no reason for an evacuation but nevertheless there was an evacuation and no one was permitted to go back to their house for a period of time. Some ventured back to their house but nothing worked. Others that went back to their homes, the authority wanted to burn them down. The authority wanted total control but that didn’t happen.
Everything was in tact and nothing was harmed in the homes except electronic and electrical equipment. The houses were livable except for the modern conveniences we have come so accustomed to.
This situation involved the Ohio Valley area for sure.
An EMP burst doesn’t have to be from a bomb at high altitudes, it can be pulses from satellites in the atmosphere and no sound involved. Depending on the magnitude of the pulse/pulses, it can cover hundreds of miles
Electro Magnetic Pulse is the presence of gamma rays that interacts with the air. The Electrons created is turned into an electrical field that travels at the speed of light. It can burn up all electronic and electrical equipment. If it has a circuit board in it, it’s gone.
July 28, 2008
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Sarah Hoffman Vision
[link to www.vinesbranch.com]
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In these cities as the disease spread, the people tried to flee from the cities out to the countryside. There was complete chaos in these cities and a breakdown of normal society. There was no electricity in them either, but I don´t know why or how that came to be. There were cars piled up everywhere, blocking roadways and most people then had to walk out with nothing. The disease started to spread beyond these initial cities.
As these people were fleeing the cities, there were gangs attacking them and killing them. In the cities that were struck with the disease, there was complete chaos, looting, rioting, murdering, a complete breakdown. Many people seemed to go absolutely crazy. I sensed that the electricity had failed everywhere now and that nothing was running, there was no communication or anything anywhere in the country. Nothing worked, no radios or TV´s. I watched people throw rocks and break windows to steal TV´s which I thought was really crazy because they wouldn´t work.
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Chuck Youngbrandt Prophecies
[link to www.survivalprimer.com]
"Electrical power will be rationed, this may be the result of the strange and powerful ejecta from the
sun which can destroy power grid hardware like it did in Quebec in 1989, that little one cost 10 million
to repair. Oil imports are cut off. Very little food. Again half the people out of work. Mexico and
Canada restrict how many Americans can cross over. Fear, pain, and misery for the unbelievers.
Miracles for the Christians, food increased, dead raised. At this time persecution of Christians will go
wild with government approval.
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| Oli
User ID: 707615
9/1/2009 10:25 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
What a bunch of nonsense. I've seen this same drivel churned out over the last 20 years and none of it ever happens. Half of the crap was stolen from Gordon Michael Scallion and other false futurists. Any "God" that punishes is no god, but simply the creation of people with a sick, sad, and warped sense of faith. Face it folks, the only major events that ever really happened were 9/11, New Orleans, and the tsunami ... and no one on GLP really predicted those events with 100% accuracy. Quoting: Wizard's First Rule
" When is the end of the world? The answer is:the day we die,the world ends for each of us.This means,of course,that the world won't end for everybody on earth at once,which is total nonsense.So there is no such thing as "the end of the world"collectively speaking,but in case of each individual,yes indeed...."
[link to uncletaz.blogspot.com]
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 707615
9/1/2009 11:26 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
What a bunch of nonsense. I've seen this same drivel churned out over the last 20 years and none of it ever happens. Half of the crap was stolen from Gordon Michael Scallion and other false futurists. Any "God" that punishes is no god, but simply the creation of people with a sick, sad, and warped sense of faith. Face it folks, the only major events that ever really happened were 9/11, New Orleans, and the tsunami ... and no one on GLP really predicted those events with 100% accuracy.
" When is the end of the world? The answer is:the day we die,the world ends for each of us.This means,of course,that the world won't end for everybody on earth at once,which is total nonsense.So there is no such thing as "the end of the world"collectively speaking,but in case of each individual,yes indeed...."
[ link to uncletaz.blogspot.com]
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| Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 752595
9/1/2009 11:49 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Selected Amos Scaggs' Prophecies
Quoted from:
[link to amosprophecy.com]
Message for the Church, April 2004
I had a message for the church and you stood in my way.
You stand in my way and I will put you down.
This is my work and not yours. These are my people and not yours.
You will not stand in my way.
Because you didn’t follow my instructions (Spirit) you will pay the ultimate price.
It will be given but you will not hear it. -Spiritually Dead-
The Spirit will fall on this place but you will not partake of it. You will see it but not hear it.
Church is Not Prepared For What is Coming, July 2005
The church as a whole is not prepared for the next event that is coming upon the USA.-The next attack and after.
Most have been waiting for JESUS to rapture them out–therefore have not prepared themselves in prayer for the future.
When the US.is nuked and near economic collapse it will be a time of tribulation, but not the tribulation period of the 7yrs. That time will come later.-You will go through this one, you will not escape
If we pray for this nation of America we can possibly hold it off a little longer, BUT IT SHALL COME.
Worthless Money, April 2005
Don’t hassle & fret over major problems such as law deals or worry about money because it won’t be long before it won’t matter anyway.
The Dollar becomes worthless. The stored up savings will buy nothing.
Devaluation on the Dollar and Hyperinflation. March 2009
I went up to the cash register to pay for an items. When I pulled out my money to pay, the dollar had devaluated by hundreds of dollars (The dollar became valued at hundredths of its former value. Hundreds of dollars would be worth less than a dollar.) I had several hundred dollars in my hand to pay for a $60 item, but that wasn’t enough. By the time I was quoted the price and was in the process of paying, the dollar lost its value by hundreds. I had another different card that would purchase the item.(This was not the typical credit card). Then after that it was the barter system.
The Ultra Rich Will Go Broke. August 2008
I don’t mean go bankrupt I mean go broke, no money.
I saw ultra rich people working for food because they were broke.
One young girl (looked to be about 18yrs) was given a chicken but she didn’t know how to butcher it. Besides she thought she was above the class of people that knew how to prepare it. There were also people of prestige working for the righteous because they had food and transportation. Some were washing clothes and cooking for the righteous. Some did their chores without complaining but most regretted their circumstances they were thrown into.
This will happen by (2 ½ yrs) two years and six months from now. .8-14-2008. .
I’m not talking about the working class and people that have their so called nest egg stashed away; they will have already gone broke long before this happens.
A days wage for a loaf of bread is coming to our door step.
Too High To Buy, March 2008
Things ware going be too high to afford to buy.
Prices will be out of reach for the common person
The Dollar Decline, Jan 2008
The Dollar went to low 50s in value, and then went back to 72c on the Dollar value.
When it went to the Low 50’s, I said NO, NO, not yet, then I looked again and it went to .72c on the dollar in value.
But that didn’t last long.
Banks Close, March 2008
I was trying to find the banks that I had accounts at.
Every time I would get close to the location of one of them, I couldn’t find them.
I was desperately trying to get my money out, but I couldn’t find the location.
Banks will close and you will not be able to get your money out.
You can’t find the bank because it won’t be there; therefore you can’t withdraw your money.
Israel, July 2006
Israel will go into a full scale war between September 1st and November 1st.
I don’t know the year.
Iran Invasion, March 2006
We are going to invade Iran on three fronts with an overwhelming force and be victorious.
Some are in position now planning their way of escape after the initial hit while waiting on reinforcements to begin the battle.
Terrorism Released, May 2007
I saw hand holding a large brown paper sack twisted at the top filled with sand hornets/bumble bees.
The hand was shaking the sack and irritating the insects inside.
Another hand appeared with a sharpened pencil to punch a hole in the sack to let the irritated hornets escape..
The terrorist from the desert that have been contained will be released soon.
The next strike on America could be a partial fufillment of this but the retaliation will turn the whole Arab world against America with a greater fulfillment.
Terrorism Coming To Stay
Soon a tall slender man carrying a package will come in the back door which was left open and will terrorize every one in his sight. Even the righteous will tremble but not be afraid.
This man came in once before on 9-11 but only a short distance into the house. This time he will come all the way in.
I believe this is terrorist related. This man is here to stay this time. His face was grayed out so I didn’t see any distinguishing characteristics.
This man may be more spiritual than physical. Grey is the color of the beast. This “slender man” could be speaking of the economies and the bread basket being effected by this. At any rate the threat is real and the fear of the Lord will be the beginning of wisdom for many after the next strike.
Multiple Attacks Shock All, April 2006
There will be multiple attacks on America that will be so sudden, without warning, unexpected and taken by complete surprise that the Media won’t be able to cover it all.
The people will not believe it is happening.
Three Cities Under Attack, Feb 2006
I saw three cities under attack. (//– One I believe was Washington DC (although it could have been NY.), the other two I don’t know the names. – -//)
Then after that there were very few cars on the highway. There were a few horses and buggies and some people were in the woods on horseback.
They met at a small country store and one person, only one person, left the area on a mission, after getting a mid 60s truck started.
God will deliver his people—I was delivered from the blasts, I receiver help from people on the way,
I rode in the buggy, I was given a ride on a horse in the woods, I was delivered from the wolves in the woods, I was directed to follow the dogs on the path and they would take me to the place, I was taken to the country roadside store and I had help from an unknown force to get the truck started to go on a mission.
(//– The (1) –DC, (2)- Atlanta– (3) could be Memphis,Tenn.??.
Washington DC. Will be hit the hardest.
I only saw symbolic locations but I know Washington DC. was one of them.
It will happen but I don’t know the time frame.—//)
(//– It also could be (1)- NY, (2)- DC, and (3)– around Winchester Va.
On the Atlas, if you put a straight edge on Ny.,DC. and Atlanta they will all line up.
All I can say is that this is the pattern that I was shown and there were no scales to go by.
I also saw Charleston WVa. being hit at one point. –//)
Nuclear Freeze, July 2005
I saw a nuclear freeze in the summer time
A nuclear freeze is winter in the summer time.
Fuel and Food Shortage, Jan 2008
This is in America.
There will be major shortages of fuel in the near future.
This is not a calculated shortage, it is at least a 1/3 actual shortage.
There will be a shortage of food also.
I’m not talking something that a long way off.
I’m talking to the people who are reading this post.
EMP Situation July 2008
I was involved in an EMP situation .Electro Magnetic Pulse. An Electrical Blackout that lasts for ????…
There was really no reason for an evacuation but nevertheless there was an evacuation and no one was permitted to go back to their house for a period of time. Some ventured back to their house but nothing worked. Others that went back to their homes, the authority wanted to burn them down. The authority wanted total control but that didn’t happen.
Everything was in tact and nothing was harmed in the homes except electronic and electrical equipment. The houses were livable except for the modern conveniences we have come so accustomed to.
This situation involved the Ohio Valley area for sure.
An EMP burst doesn’t have to be from a bomb at high altitudes, it can be pulses from satellites in the atmosphere and no sound involved. Depending on the magnitude of the pulse/pulses, it can cover hundreds of miles
Electro Magnetic Pulse is the presence of gamma rays that interacts with the air. The Electrons created is turned into an electrical field that travels at the speed of light. It can burn up all electronic and electrical equipment. If it has a circuit board in it, it’s gone.
Forced Microchipping August 2009
There will be a forced microchipping of the people for identification purposes. There will also be some that will be hidden from the view of the authorities behind a camouflage and will not receive the chip but it will be a tense situation.
Confinement Conditions November 2008
People will be lured into confinement places by false promises and the elusion of a more beautiful fulfillment.
There will be some sympathetic combatants that will help in escapes.
I saw people being sprayed, or covered with flowing liquid fiberglass resin, while still alive, and becoming an incased mummy figure, and some buried alive as punishment unto death.
Concentration Camps, Aug 2005
In the very very near future selected groups of peoples will be taken against their will, across state lines, to place of no return –Believers included—(concentration camps)
Taking the Mark, Sept 2007
I saw a very attractive person with an ever so sweet voice say” take the Mark, there’s nothing to it, it won’t harm you in any way, it’s the in thing to do”.
The invitation was almost irresistible.
Then people started to flow in like going to some rock concert, so happy to be there to take the Mark.
Tribulation and Wrath, Aug 2005
I have postponed the destruction of America but I will not do it again. Destruction will come to America.
My people will go through tribulations and trouble times. You are not appointed to MY WRATH but TRIBULATION is not WRATH. Hard times are coming to this World.–
I saw GODS PEOPLE in the middle of the TRIBULATIONS (Birth Pains of the Messiah)—There was no way out of it.
Don’t be Deceived, you will go through the middle of the TRIBULATION PERIOD.—
You can think what you like but it does not make it fact.—Repent and grow strong in the Lord to be prepared for the times ahead.
Many Will Come Out of the Harlot, Jan 2008
In a vision a woman (a portion of the harlot church) had slipped off and followed another man (false leadership). The two were going through the hills via back roads and paths in order to lose her original Male companion (Christ). The original Male (Christ) kept calling out to the woman to come back but to no avail. After a number of days the original Male (Christ) caught up with two runaways lying on a blanket in the grass with a baby (fruit of the false word) between them, behind a large two/three story building (Playing hookey from the three story schoolhouse of Christianity).
The baby belonged to the other man (false leadership) and they didn’t think they could be seen behind the building. The original Male (Christ) ordered the woman to come to him in a voice that everyone around could hear. The woman reluctantly came to Him (Christ), but kept looking back at the other man. The other man had the baby (fruit of the false word) that others could worship in the place of Jesus.
The church is worshiping false images but many will soon be called out of them to worship the true and living God. They will come out of their false churches, but it will be a struggle to keep their eyes on the true and living God. But many will come out. (Many will leave their false fruit and teachers behind in the coming revival.)
Earth in Travail, May 2005
The Earth is in travail, it is twisting & churning & awaiting it’s redemption.
CALIFORNIA. HALF OF IT WILL SPLIT FROM NORTH TO SOUTH AND FALL AWAY.. Hawaii will also be effected form this.(tsunami)
We will be hit with another attack worse than 911.
There will be a war with China over Taiwan. While we are busy with China, Russia and her allies will hit America, Then after that AMERICA WILL BURN.
Bush has gone too far with the Road Map of Israel and the Palestinians.
God will start taking his hand of protection off America.
We will see all kinds of natural disasters around the world and IN America.
In about 1996 I saw that America would be hit 3 times & the last one would be final.
The American people must repent so God will protect us in order to prevent the devastation from being so great.
God will protect his people in these times of trouble.
This is the times of the END.
California Split, Jan 2006
In May of 2005 I saw California twisting and turning. Half of it split from north to south and fell away.Then on Jan.4, 2006 I saw a small portion of land mass of California being put or molded back together by two large hands like an elongated moistened dirt patty, along with the governmental part. The land mass being put back together was about 1/3 of its original size.
Don’t take this literal. I‘m only trying to give an idea of the general area I saw being put back together by looking at a map. Take like from Sacramento going east to South Tahoe; draw a line along the Nevada border going SE. Then go from Sacramento down to Modesto, to Merced, to Visalia, to Barstow, along the Bullion Mt. to south of Eagle Mt. to Rt. 10 and 177 junction. Then go east on Rt.10 to Blythe. This is not the actual cities; it is only to give an idea of the land mass that I saw being put back together
Tsunami Hits LA, June 2005
A 50′+ Tsunami will hit LA., San Fran area in the future.
An earthquake of 9.8 or better will hit the LA area.
Southern and Eastern Coast Under Water, July 2005
I saw the Eastern USA from Texas along the Southern Coast up the Atlantic Coast.
Texas stood out above the rest of the USA as if it would not be effected by the coming disaster. Florida was completely gone. Going inland along the shores of La, Ala, Miss, Ga, SC.& NC. were under water for miles (don’t know how many-That might depend on the elevation at present) but in the middle of those areas were deeper areas of water like sink holes linked together. I saw other areas along the Atlantic Coast but I didn’t know the locations (North Eastern Seaboard-New England States?) Ma. Was not in the picture.
The words “Chicago, Chicago, Chicago”–I was trying to see what was going on there but couldn’t–The Lord said; don’t you see what is happening over (or in) Chicago–The words again “Chicago, Chicago”..
View Attachment for affected area.–Map
Part of this happen with Katrina but all of it was not fulfilled.
Chicago will be in turmoil when these devastating events happen
The Bear is Coming to America, July 2005
The Bear (RUSSIA) is coming & America is playing as if on vacation–Like nothing will ever happen here in this country–We THINK are too secure–We are the hammer of the world, nothing can happen to us.–PRIDE WILL TAKE AMERICA DOWN.
The Bear (RUSSIA) is at the door, one push & he will be in this America–DO not be deceived, Russia is a country to contend with.
(The last time I saw this)
RUSSIA will be in America without notice as a pop, a snap, a breaking of a banjo string while playing. -Unaware & unsuspected until it happens. I TELL YOU THIS WILL HAPPEN VERY SOON!!
I saw Churches falling & closing.
I saw this three times within 2hrs
Ferocious Bear, June 2006
I saw a Ferocious Bear (Russia) had chased US into the fuselage of a plane.
When the attack begins there will be no escape and the fuselage will be ripped to pieces in the battle by the claws of the Bear.
The Bear’s claws and arms were whaling like a whirlwind, destroying everything in its path with no sense of direction, just in a killing mode.
The plane had no chance of takeoff because there was no pilot and we (US) could not get to the pilots’ seats (two seats) in the cockpit before the battle begins.
Our protection will be completely destroyed and The Bear will destroy US in our own environment.
Our retreat plan will be cut off before it can be implemented with no possible way of escape.
The US is in a dead end situation and running scared.
California Will Burn, July 2005
I say to you again, California will BURN.
Masses Die in the USA, June 2005
The masses will die in the USA. No time to bury them.
Jer.16:1-13.
The time to repent to prevent destruction is just about over.
Destruction is coming & there is no need to pray against it, just pray for your safety & guidance.
Two Stages of the ManChild, Dec 2005
After this I received a vision from the Lord showing two stages of His work in and through His last day disciples.
The first stage was these modern disciples were being gathered, including myself. Preparations had been made by the Lord well in advance. We were adequately taken care of and our needs met without asking. We gathered together in fields, feasting and listening to JESUS while he taught us his ways.. (This is a repetition of History. Jesus, manifested in the first-fruits/man-child, will teach and protect the disciples for the first three and one half years of the tribulation just as it was in the Gospels. They will be trained to be his witnesses and signs and wonders will follow their teaching just as it was with the first disciples.). We were going through different parts of the world but seemed to be in the same field. We were also given protection well in advance. We were being given monetary things from Christians that believed in and were sympathetic to our cause but stayed in their prosperous communities. They were good people and kind to us. When we left this first teaching stage they even came to see us off on our journey. (These brethren were not called to be among the man-child or witnesses, who are God’s apostles to raise up the end-time Church but they are called to support these ministers. Just as the witnesses were hand picked by Jesus in the Gospels, so it will be this time.)
The second stage was that we were gathered into groups of two’s and three’s and being sent out into the world. Some would never return to see their families ever again. We were being sent in different groups and then being dispersed. One had the same spirit and anointing as John. Another had the same spirit and anointing as Peter. Another had the spirit and anointing of James and so forth. (These are the corporate two witnesses who in Jesus’ day were sent out two by two and will be sent out the same way by the man-child. They will raise up the Church and the true five-fold ministries as in the book of Acts.)
I also saw two rich people that were in government power. These were two older friends that partially raised me when I was younger and have been dead for 30-40 plus yrs. He was then the Lt.Governor and his wife. I was finishing up some meaningless work that I was doing for them so I could leave in a rush. She said, I will have a baby by another means if you won’t help me. He said, “It will have to be by other means because I can’t help you.” She said, I think I’ll have one by a Cherokee. (The woman here is the apostate Church, which will realize that it could not bring forth the fruit of Christ through their patriotic, allegiance to their husband, the beast government, so it will be done by “other means.” The Cherokee represent the witnesses who, like them will hold tenaciously to the roots of their ancestors, the apostles and Christ himself. The Cherokee are an oppressed minority who live in camps separate from the world representing these coming witnesses of primitive Christianity. These will rise up and sow the seed of their ancestors in the apostate Church to bring forth the fruit of Jesus in them. These are a weak people in themselves who lost America to the beast but have held to the “Great Spirit” whose power will bring the true Church back to her roots.)
I thought the Cherokee child would be born mature as Adam was. God will do a very quick work in His people. {Rom.9:28} for the Lord will execute HIS word upon the earth, finishing it and cutting it short)
Changes In The World As We Know It, Jan 2004
The time of the Gentiles are about over, then I shall return to my people Israel.
The Polar Ice Caps will melt & land will disappear.
I have come to judge the ones who dishonor & disobey me. The whole world has come under MY judgment.
Trouble is coming to America like none has ever been.
There will be uprisings by insurgent groups around Kansas and Missouri against the Government and peoples and after that America will Burn Nuclear Destruction.
America will get hit first from the Ocean, Cuba & Central America
After Bush America will go down fall.
The pope has to go.
There will be problems in Saudi Arabia, It will fall from how we know it today.
The Magnetic North will change.
The Earth is in travail, it is twisting & churning & awaiting it’s redemption.
CALIFORNIA. HALF OF IT WILL SPLIT FROM NORTH TO SOUTH AND FALL AWAY.. Hawaii will also be effected form this.
I put these all in one group because I lost some data.
Trouble in America–
Jeremiah 51:1 Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will raise up against Babylon, and against them that dwell in ,Leb Kamai, the midst of them that rise up against me, a destroying wind;
There will be an uprising in the middle of the USA by terrorist, The heart of my foes. |
| inconspicious
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9/2/2009 3:22 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Interesting. Like the original compilation. Have been copying the rest when I have time to really read and contemplate.
Gail Smith, and Bishop Quale also had many visions which coinside. |
| Watchman of Yahweh
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9/3/2009 2:29 AM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Gail Smith Prophecies
Quoted from:
[link to toddjumper.com]
THE GOOD NEWS: The purpose of this cleansing prior to the Lord’s return is to separate the wheat from the tares, namely those who believe in and follow Christ from those who won’t. Gail has seen that it does not matter whether one belongs to a church or not or even what church one joins. The only thing that matters is whether you will turn to Christ! Gail has been shown that during the period from the financial collapse to the third quake the righteous who are not appointed to die will be led or taken to “cities of refuge or cities of light”. Gail has seen visions of some righteous people being led out by beings of light when it is so cold that the little children are crying and the people just have the clothes on their backs.
She has shared with me several scenarios shown her that illustrate ways in which the Lord will save those who turn to Him. She was in her home and saw about 6 armed troops enter her home searching for food, weapons, ammo, etc. She also knew they had orders to arrest her and that if she were taken she would be killed. She prayed in her mind, “Lord, if it be thy will that I am not to die at this time, please save me and tell me what to do.” The spirit told her to tell the men not to touch her or they would die. The laughed and one man grabbed her. Immediately he fell dead at her feet. Within a few minutes the others had convinced themselves that the first man’s death was just a coincidence, that he had a bad heart or something. A second man started to go for her at which time she said “Please don’t touch me or you’ll die.” He ignored the warning, grabbed her and immediately fell dead at her feet. The remaining men left as fast as they could. In another scenario she saw the wild animals coming down out of the mountains, killing and eating people. Among these animals she saw groups of mountain lions, four to six to a group. (Traveling in groups is not normal behavior for these solitary and timid cats.) One of these groups of cougars approached her. Not knowing what to do, she thought, “Well praying worked before”, so once again she prayed, “Lord, if it be thy will that I’m not to die at this time please save me and tell me what to do.” The spirit said, “Reach out your hand and pet the front mountain lion on the head.” She thought to herself, “Sure I will!”, but she did it anyway. The animal immediately began rubbing against her like a house cat, rolling over, etc. and the other animals did the same. The people in the area who saw this became terrified of Gail and fled. Gail says that this is why the scriptures say that people are afraid to go up against Zion for God is with them. Then the Spirit said, “I have showed you the great power that I am willing to exercise on behalf of one person, Think what I will do...
The Lord also told her on another occasion that. “I will feed you, I will clothe you, I will put a roof over your head. I will protect you. All that I require is that you believe I will do it.”
THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS WHICH GAIL HAS SEEN MOTHER-IN-LAW PASSES AWAY: The first event is the death of her mother-in-law, who was about 90 when this was first written and not in the best of health. In other words, she could die any time and is, in fact, eager to do so.
ECONOMIC COLLAPSE: Shortly after her mother in law’s death the government will cause to occur very rapidly a complete, world wide economic collapse in which money would be worthless. She is not sure how soon after her mother in law’s passing this will occur. At one time she felt it would just be a few days; now she is not sure how much time will pass. She saw lots of paper money blowing about the streets and no one bothering to pick it up. There are a number of scriptures, both in the Bible and in modern revelation which refer to Babylon falling, and an economic collapse occurring in “one day”. She has not been shown how this collapse would occur, but she has been shown on many occasions that it would occur very quickly over just a relatively few days. She says that “we will hear rumors which will get louder and then the collapse will happen very quickly.”
FIRST EARTHQUAKE: Within about 10 days after the economic collapse there would be a substantial earthquake along the Wasatch Front in Utah. She says that this quake “doesn’t seem that hard but because it lasts so long there is quite a bit of damage.”
SECOND EARTHQUAKE: Within about 15 days after the first earthquake there would be a second earthquake that would be INCREDIBLE. (I have another friend or two who have seen these quakes and they say that this second quake would be the biggest quake ever recorded by man.) The damage would be massive and would include the breaking of every dam in the mountains above the Wasatch Front. The Jordanell dam will break and then when the surge hits Deer Creek, it too will break and a huge wall of water over 80 feet high will scour Provo Canyon and everything in front of it. There will also be massive liquifaction of the ground in the west part of the valley. Buildings will be falling like dominos. There will be massive fires and floods. Travel south out of Salt Lake Valley will be blocked because the huge sand and gravel deposit at the Point of The Mountain will slide across the entire valley making it impossible to go across this loose material on foot. Also, very wide and deep crevices will open up in this same area. The crevices will be perhaps 600 feet deep and 500 to 600 feet wide.
MARTIAL LAW: Sometime between the economic collapse and the second earthquake martial law would be imposed in Utah and perhaps over the entire country. The rioting, looting, mobbings, etc. that will follow the economic collapse will be unlike anything this country has ever experienced. She says this martial law will be incredibly oppressive and brutal, worse than Nazi Germany. People caught outside after curfew will be shot. People will be prohibited from meeting, praying or leaving the area. Those caught doing so will be executed, Armed troops will have authority to search homes and seize food, arms and ammunition and anything else they choose to take. This oppression will be so severe that people will pray night and day for deliverance. The U.N. will relocate people and sort them, some will be executed and others sent to work camps. She saw armed soldiers rounding up groups of men and then shooting them. She saw that men were very scarce in the valley.
THIRD & FOURTH EARTHQUAKES: Perhaps five or six months - perhaps longer, after the second earthquake a third earthquake will hit the Wasatch Front destroying everything and everyone left in the area. Gail thinks that this quake is in response to the prayers asking for relief. This third quake will result in significant shifts in the earth’s crust that will cause a series of massive quakes all over the world. Sometime later there will be a fourth quake in the Wasatch front of such incredible magnitude that she saw Mount Timpanogos sinking away and a new mountain appearing in the middle of Utah Valley. When I asked Gail to review this in Sept. 1996 she added the following: “Last week I saw the whole valley under water. I was standing on the Point of the Mountain looking both ways to Utah Valley and Salt Lake Valley and saw all of it under water. The water was lapping up against my feet. I was up on the foothill. I also saw the cracks in the earth with molten lava coming out of them.”
PLAGUES: Following the second earthquake one or more terrible quick killing diseases would break out in the Utah area and kill many. The disease(s) will be something like the Ebola virus that kills very quickly. While Gail was talking on the radio about these plagues a man named “Robert” called in and said he had been shown these diseases and he was also shown that the governing powers controlling the troops would be responsible for unleashing the disease on the people. Gail agreed with this. According to both of them the entire area from Northern Arizona to southern Idaho would be sealed off and turned into a “dead zone.” They said that the purpose for all of this is to kill Christians and particularly the LDS.
U. S. INVADED: Shortly after the second earthquake the United States will be attacked by invading forces. Russia will invade the East coast and China the West coast. The invasion will include missile attacks. She was shown that the invasion would occur when people were eating and drinking which Gail believes to be Thanksgiving, but possibly Christmas. There will be nuclear attacks on both coasts, Las Vegas, and perhaps in Utah.
BEGINNING OF THE MARK OF THE BEAST: She and others have also been shown some events involving the leadership of the LDS Church. The governing power(s) would threaten to exterminate the entire church if the leaders did not cooperate. The church leaders agree to cooperate with the corrupt government rather than trust in and turn to the Lord. The deal is that the Church leaders will tell the LDS people to bring their food storage into central church controlled locations which will then be shared among all the members. However, instead the Church turns everything over to the government. Then the government, (probably U.N. controlled) requires that people receive an implanted computer chip in their right hand or forehead before they can draw anything out of the storehouse(s). This will be the beginning of the “Mark of the Beast” in the world. Gail says, “Those who wake up at this point and refuse to take the mark will have their heads cut off.” Revelations speaks of people being beheaded and also says that those who do take the “Mark of the Beast” will lose their salvation and exaltation. It is definitely much better to be beheaded than lose everything by accepting the mark - besides, they will be resurrected fairly quickly anyway. [The scriptures on the “mark of the beast” are in Revelations 13:15-18, 14:9-11, 16:2, 19:20 & 20:4] She was also shown that the government would not keep its part of the deal with the Church leaders and after getting the food storage would proceed to do its very best to exterminate the church and its members. Based on what Gail has been shown it looks like the purpose of the martial law, at least in Utah and adjoining areas, will be to contain the people in these areas so that they will die as a result of disease, famine, etc. What Gail and others have seen fits precisely with the “covenant with death” that Isaiah saw the latter day church leaders entering into, which covenant would be “disannulled” and the people would be “trodden upon” anyway. Isaiah 28 beginning at verse 14.
STATE OF THE LDS CHURCH IN THE LATTER DAYS: For those LDS who believe that “all is well in Zion” and that the Brethren would never lead us astray, you might consider the profoundly negative things that the Lord has to say in 2 Nephi 28 about one in the Church in the latter days (it could only be the presiding officer of the church) who wrongly teaches that “all is well in Zion.” (It’s not likely that whoever it is will use those exact words but the essence of his message will be the same.) I find nothing in the scriptures to support the proposition that the “Brethren will never lead the people astray.” In fact, the Lord has said in several different places to “trust not in the arm of flesh” but rather to look only to the Lord and only trust in Him and His revealed word as found both in the Scriptures and personal revelation via the Spirit. See e.g., 2 Nephi 28:31-32; D&C 1:19-20; D&C 45:56-57; & Matt 24:37 (Inspired Revision).
In fact, what the scriptures have to say about the Church in the latter days is that the Gentile church (Ephraim) would get seriously off track. Before considering these scriptures I recommend pondering Joseph Smith’s last prophetic dream which he had the night before his murder in Carthage as found on pages 393-394 of “The Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith” compiled by Joseph Fielding Smith. In that dream Joseph saw himself returning to a beautiful farm he had owned in Kirtland, Ohio. Only now the fields were weed filled, fences down, and the barn was a mess with its doors and windows out and the floor torn up. While he was standing in the dilapidated barn a group of men approached, some with knives, and threatened him saying the property was theirs now and they would not give it back. Joseph said in effect that while he still legally owned it, never having sold it or given it to anyone he did not particularly want it back. Then a second group of men also carrying knives, etc., entered and began arguing with the first group over the property. Joseph just walked away while they argued among themselves. Since Joseph never owned a farm at Kirtland the farm must be symbolic of something else, undoubtedly the Church.
Now to the scriptural evidence concerning the state of the LDS Church in the Latter days.
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METEOR TO HIT EARTH: Some months ago Gail’s mother came to her and showed her a large meteor/comet hitting earth. There would be little warning, perhaps a few hours or a day or two. It would fragment into pieces and impact in the western U.S. and the Pacific ocean. The man from Vancouver was shown that it would have a sterilizing effect killing a third of the life in the ocean and a lot of other plant and animal life. He also was shown that it would generate a huge tidal wave 500 feet or more high that would hit the entire west coast. Neither Gail nor her friend from Vancouver have any information on when or where in the sequence of events this meteor will occur.
UPDATE August 26, 1997
Gail has been told that October the 10th and 29th are significant days. Gail has also seen great, strong winds blowing throughout Utah. The first quake does much more damage than previously thought or seen, due to the length of time of the shaking. The first two earthquakes happen in the early morning, and the second two happen in the afternoon. The time period between the second and third quakes could be months, or it could be years! There will be phenominal fires after the second quake. The third quake will happen in some April in the future. After the third quake, there will be water shooting up from the Great Salt Lake, and the lake surface will be burning. Water will fill both the Salt Lake and Utah Valleys. Before the 4th quake we must be under Jesus Christ's protection in "cities of light" in order to survive. And for the record, Gail has discussed the time when she will be persecuted, and how shortly after this happens these things will begin; well, the persecution is taking place as of this update!
AUGUST 5, 1998
In a conversation I had with Gail this morning, she told me that for the last 3 weeks or so she has dreams, etc every night all impressing on her how close the cleansing tribulations are and how urgent and vital it is to turn to Christ. During this time she's been repeatedly shown numerous instances of the coming martial law situation and how terribly oppressive it will be. For example, those without the mark of the beast will be killed and/or imprisoned.
She's also seen repeatedly an angry dark sky full of huge, dark, roiling clouds that are just about to bust loose with terrible storms.
Something not generally reported is what she has been shown starting last fall and winter about the magnetic pole change that will occur and how this will be accompanied by unprecedentedly severe winds in the range of 300-400 MPH that will scour literally everything off the earth where those winds touch. On one occasion she was up in Salt Lake, about 45-55 minutes from her home in Alpine, UT. She somehow sensed or was shown that the magnetic pole shift was beginning and she immediately began heading home in her car.
Before she get home the pole shift was complete and the scourging winds had begun.
Within these last 3 weeks she's also seen repeated scenes of these awesome winds blowing and the accompanying clean sweep of all that these winds touch.
Within the last couple of months a very strong tornado hit a small town north of Kansas City and basically wiped out the downtown. I recall one report that said how the winds had literally pulled an entire basement with walls and floor right out of the ground. These tornadic winds were around 150-200 MPH. Imagine what winds TWICE that powerful will do. |
| Anonymous Coward
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9/3/2009 3:50 AM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
great info op, a lot of it matches up quite nicely with my time line... thank you |
| hawk8414
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9/3/2009 4:44 AM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Well, OP, The only thing I can do is print out what you've got so far and make copies of it and give it to people, some will listen,others won't.
Heavily medicated for your safety! |
| Anonymous Coward
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9/3/2009 1:22 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
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| Watchman of Yahweh
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9/3/2009 3:02 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Letter to President from Matthew Stephen
Dear Saints please pass this on to email wide for others to read, We live in day that trouble is upon the land all that we do we must do in the Holy Spirit, to be a people called by His name and to walk in Love and to be the Bride walking in Love. We all fall short and at times we do not walk in love, I know in my life I have fallen short and it is very hard because of the office, and the message to speak. for it is a time to build up and a time to tear down, the Judgment on America message is not a easy one to carry, I have spoken this message to America for nearly 30 years. At times I have been humbled by the hand of God and with that hand comes discipline of God. All in all we must not forget about love and when we speak a message, in the Spirit of prophecy it may come off as being very hard at times it may be that way, and times it may be more graceful with love. We all must try to speak in Love more so. the foundation of all things in the Kingdom of God is Love. as my good friend Stephen Bening has said truth is so very hard to find, and at times the truth hurts. I say all that to say this I just wrote the President of America the letter below. and the last two days there has been a story on youtube and CNN news by a man name Steve Anderson. his message has alot of good points in agreement with the bible but. But he spoke out of hate in his heart, by saying that Obama needs to go to hell in hate " I hate Obama I am praying to God he goes to Hell" this is wrong and it is a message of hate with the worng heart. We should pray for his soul, even thou Obama is wrong what he does, the Lord God has allow Obama for the Judgment on America, and very soon as stated before the percustion of the Saints is ready to happen here in America.
God Bless,
Matthew Stephen
Matthew Stephen
P.O. Box 711
Park Rapids, MN 56470
President, Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
August 28, 2009
RE: You’re Dreams
Dear Mr. President,
I write this letter with a heavy heart as I remember the prophetic letter I sent George W. Bush in 2001 titled "811 Dream”. That letter was warning of the 911 terrorist attacks that occurred one month after sending that prophecy letter to him.
A few of the prophetic words the Lord God Almighty has given me and the fulfillment thereof are as follows: The presidential election of Ronald Reagan; the assassination of Anwar Sadat; your election as president; George W. Bush 2004 reelection; the Iraq war 1 year before it began; Hurricane Katrina seven years before it happened; the assassination of Benazir Bhutto; the massive earthquakes that would occur in 2008 in China; the floods that would come to America; the 2008 Greece earthquake spoken about on June 2008 via radio; North Korea shooting off missiles and moving to the DMZ; (as you well know, that event happen and North Korea is flexing their muscles again.) the earthquake that hit Italy before the G8 Summit, etc… Mr. President the Lord revealed to me all these events before they took place. I have spoken of them on radio shows as well as documented these and hundreds of other prophecies in my letters. I have shared these prophecies with the world and they have been heard by 30 million people and read by over 500,000 people.
Mr. President, we will soon see 3 massive explosions in 3 major cities and the Lord has revealed to me that the locations will be Washington D.C., NY and Los Angeles, CA. Seven times greater than 911 will rise and seven cities will ultimately be hit. When the Lord told me that you would be President, He also told me that you would be in unusual danger. He revealed to me that at the end of the day, Hillary Clinton will be sitting with a flag pole sticking in her head ruling the nation, and it will not be by "We the people".
America is also about to see a large earthquake in CA; greater than 8.0 on the Richter scale.
Mr. President, the Lord has shown me that you have been having troubling dreams and you are puzzled at the meaning. I know in my heart that the Lord will make known to me the revelation of these dreams. If I can be of help and the Lord God would allow me to talk with you about your dreams; I am in the Lords hands and will do as He has commands, and speak with you if you desire.
I also have a huge burden in my heart as I remember the vision the Lord gave me of the dumpsters on the Interstates filled with innocent, aborted babies. These dumpsters began at the nation's capital and ran all the way out to Los Angeles and San Francisco, CA. The Lord God Almighty said, “For this one sin alone I could destroy America and it would be justification for judgment that is coming upon America." Our sins have now reached the heavens! The Lord Jesus has told me that soon, two American, two Middle East, two Europe and two Asian political figures will be assassinated, besides French President, Sarkozy.
This is written in the book of Daniel Chapter 5. “There is a man in your kingdom in whom is the Spirit of the Holy God. And in the days of your father, light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, were found in him; and King Nebuchadnezzar your father—your father the king—made him chief of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans, and soothsayers. Inasmuch as an excellent spirit, knowledge, understanding, interpreting dreams, solving riddles, and explaining enigmas were found in this Daniel, whom the king named Belteshazzar, now let Daniel be called, and he will give the interpretation.”
I had a dream of going into the White House to warn you of impending disaster and the need for repentance as a nation. I then found myself outside of the White House and I saw written on the White House walls following words which you will find in the book of Daniel Chapter 5.
“MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN”
(Daniel Interprets the Kings Dream)
Daniel 5: Then the fingers of the hand were sent from Him, and this writing was written. And this is the inscription that was written: MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. This is the interpretation of each word. MENE: God has numbered your kingdom, and finished it; TEKEL: You have been weighed in the balances, and found wanting; PERES: Your kingdom has been divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.” Then Belshazzar gave the command, and they clothed Daniel with purple and put a chain of gold around his neck, and made a proclamation concerning him that he should be the third ruler in the kingdom. That very night Belshazzar, king of the Chaldeans, was slain. There is a man in your kingdom in whom is the Spirit of the Holy God. And in the days of your father, light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, were found in him; and King Nebuchadnezzar your father—your father the king—made him chief of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans, and soothsayers. Inasmuch as an excellent spirit, knowledge, understanding, interpreting dreams, solving riddles, and explaining enigmas were found in this Daniel, whom the king named Belteshazzar, now let Daniel be called, and he will give the interpretation.”
I tell you these things because The Lord God Almighty has requested that I have an audience with you to inform you of the soon coming events to occur in the United States. By the mercy of God I pray that you will take this into serious consideration and accept my request to have a face to face meeting with you.
Mr. President, before you were elected into office the Lord told me you would be elected and that you would be the last American President elected by “WE the People”. I know things have changed since you have been in office and there has been a continuous lack of respect for your leadership. The Lord told me that “The Age of the Golden Harvest” has come to an end and we are going to be question about LOVE. It is not a matter of how much time we have left but a matter of what we do with the time we have left. It is my heart desire to see America start over in the way of righteousness, but I see the end of days and the end of all things. Please, Mr. President, make a difference while you are in office. Stand up to all that has come against the Way of Almighty God. Bring back the truth that was established from the time of our founding fathers, which shed their blood for the freedom of this Nation. Go down in history as one who was known to seek the Father's Face; one who seeks God and pleases our King of kings, Jesus Christ. I love you and your family, in Christ Jesus, and I will be praying for you, your family and your administration.
Sincerely,
Pastor Matthew Stephen
Watchman2012@gmail.com
www.propheticwatchmanvine.com
P.S. Please see the following very important vision the Lord gave me on the day of your inauguration.
Vision of the Cannon’s
It was Inauguration day, Jan. 20, 2009. I was taken to Pennsylvania Avenue and there before me were soldiers marching down the street. The street was made of dirt and the soldiers where union troops. As I watched I heard a man on a white horse shout, “A war has come and we need to get ready for battle.” The soldiers kept marching down the street as if they did not hear him. The man on the horse shouted again, “We need to get ready for battle” and one of the marching soldiers shouted, “We have been order to withdraw”. The man on the white horse said, “If you withdraw you will die”. The soldiers kept marching and then they were no longer.
The man on the white horse said, “On this day a great woe has come upon this union and in the last day it will come again and we who fight today will die tomorrow and this union will be lost.” Then a number of troops and horses were brought in. Seven large cannon’s were set up in front of the Capitol building and a white dove flew around the top of the capitol. The dove cried out in a loud voice, “You shall stand as long as you worship the Lord God Almighty, but know this,” I heard a sound in the distant time, “It has been declared and your time has been weighed; when you come to your last days you have been found wanting. In the end your union shall not stand because you have forgotten The Almighty God”.
Then Seven Angles descended upon the seven cannon’s. Each Angel took his sword and struck the cannon to light the fuse. The first cannon shot off and the words appeared in the sky, “You have forgotten the covenant of God; love one another and serve the Lord Jesus Christ”. Then the second cannon shot off and appeared the words, “You have worship idols”. The third cannon shot off and the words appeared, “You have shed the innocent blood of babies and the Saints”. The fourth cannon shot off and the words appeared, “You have oppressed the poor and raped the children”. The fifth cannon shot off and the words appeared, “You have dressed yourself in fine linen with your wealth and in one hour it will be brought to ruin”. The sixth cannon shot off and the words appeared, “Terror, war, fire, famine, death”. The seventh cannon shot off and the words appeared, “Just as your sins have reach their full so has your time reach your full. You have divided the nations so your union has been divided; you, America, shall not stand”.
I was then taken to stand before the seventh cannon and the Angel said to me, “Look and listen”. The streets were no longer dirt but paved and there before me appeared soldiers marching down the streets. The sky became dark, the lighting flashed to the ground, the rains came down and the streets flooded. I watched the soldiers march down the streets as the water came up to their thigh; as I watched, the water around them became blood red. I heard the scream of children. I could see Obama standing in front of the White house. I watched Obama for a time then I looked again and Obama was no longer.
The Seventh Angel said with a loud voice, “Oh great Union who was and now is no longer, seven more blasts have been decreed”. The seventh cannon blasted again and the top of the Capitol building explode;, the seventh cannon blasted again and the Supreme Court exploded; the seventh cannon blasted again and all government buildings and corporations exploded; the seventh cannon blasted again and the wealth of America vanished; the seventh cannon blasted again and terror broke out as man began to kill each another.
I saw comets fall from the sky and massive storms and volcanoes of all kinds hit America. The seventh cannon blasted again, the east and west coast exploded and war broke out. The seventh cannon blasted again and the White house was no more. The northern army was hit and a large earthquake shook. The whole earth shook and men everywhere died as all the oceans of the deep washed on the land. Then the Angel dressed in white linen shouted, “It is finished”. I heard a voice say, “I have kept my redeemed and many of my redeemed laid their life down. I have kept many, for I have hid them in the wilderness. Now the time has come and I will now pour them out on the earth and the earth once again will become green. The light shall shine and give forth pure water; the tender leaves have become pure and will grow great. Then I saw that all the cities were no longer there; all the darkness was gone and all things seemed to be bright and new. I heard the songs of healing, songs of worship and I watched as all the Saints were dancing and the trees in the fields were clapping their hands. The Vision ended.
Abraham Lincoln said, you have no oath registered in Heaven to destroy the government, while I shall have the most solemn one to preserve, protect and defend it. This government that Abraham Lincoln saw was a government of his day and the old government is passing away. The Government of this day is God’s Government; His Bride on this earth; for they have been given authority over the whole earth and everything in it; to put to death the works of darkness and to destroy the kingdom of satan. The sons and daughters have the most solemn one to preserve, protect and defend it, by the Holy Blood of the Lamb, the Loin of Judah.
Abraham Lincoln said the spirit that guided him was clearly that of his Second Inaugural Address. And now inscribed on the wall of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D. C. is this: "With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds.... "On Good Friday, April 14, 1865, Abraham Lincoln was assassinated.
America and the Church in America, under this Union, has not walk without malice; it has forgotten its charity for all; has not stood in righteous and to do right. We have not pressed forward to do what we were called to do; to finish the race and bind up the nation’s wounds. The New day is changing and there comes a people who will rise up with healing in their wings; Oh son’s and daughter’s of the Holy Lord God Almighty, be a people of Isaiah 61:1-3 The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners, to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor and the day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn, and provide for those who grieve in Zion - to bestow on them a crown of beauty instead of ashes, the oil of gladness instead of mourning, and a garment of praise instead of a spirit of despair. They will be called oaks of righteousness, a planting of the LORD for the display of His splendor.
His Servant,
Matthen Stephen
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| Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/5/2009 4:10 AM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Easter and the Passover
Easter has it's roots in paganism as one of the eight annual Sabbats (i.e. holy festivals) of Wiccans/witches/pagans. Easter is celebrated around the time of the Spring Equinox. The eight annual Sabbats for Wiccans/witches/pagans are:
1. Yule (Winter Solstice) - the forerunner of Christmas
2. Candlemas - celebrated around February 2nd
3. Ostara (Spring Equinox) - Easter
4. Beltane (May Day) - celebrated in early May
5. MidSummer (Summer Solstice)
6. Lammas - celebrated on August 2nd
7. Mabon (Autumn Equinox)
8. Samhain (All Hallow's Eve) - Halloween
[3]
The name Easter relates to an ancient fertility goddess that went by several names such as Eostre, a Teutonic fertility goddess, Ishtar from Assyria, Ashtoreth from ancient Israel, Kali from India, Astarte from ancient Greece, Hathor from ancient Egypt, Aphrodite from ancient Cyprus, and Ostara, a Norse goddess. The Easter egg is a symbol of fertility and is also a symbol of the sun. The Easter rabbit or more accurately, hare is the sacred animal of the Saxon fertility goddess Eastre, perhaps because of the rabbits ability to reproduce quickly. The rabbit is also associated with the moon goddess. So together, the Easter egg and rabbit symbolize the male sun god and the female moon goddess, respectively. [2] [3] Another Easter tradition is eating hot cross buns for breakfast on Good Friday. There is a superstition that hot cross buns can ward off evil spirits and magickally heal. [4] Also, since Tammuz was killed by a wild pig, the pig is now eaten as the Easter ham. [14] The Easter sunrise service has it's pagan origins in welcoming the sun. [15]
A short interlude on Good Friday:
Tradition holds that Jesus Christ was placed in the tomb before the sundown Friday (from which we get Good Friday) and was raised early Sunday morning, from which we get Resurrection Sunday. The belief is that Sabbath that was drawing near which hastened Jesus' placement in the tomb was the seventh day Sabbath which is observed from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday. Please refer to Luke 23:46-54. But if this tradition is true, then Jesus was in the tomb for Friday night, Saturday day and night and part of Sunday day, which is two nights and less than two days. Yet, this cannot be correct since Jesus said "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." (Matthew 12:40). Jesus Christ cannot lie so the Good Friday tradition is a lie! As it is written, "let God be true, but every man a liar" (Romans 3:4) and "Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar" (1 John 5:10). [5]
So what really happened? Jesus was entombed before sundown on Wednesday so he was in the tomb Wednesday night, Thursday day and night, Friday day and night and Saturday day and was raised before or about Saturday sundown. Thus, Jesus fulfilled his prophecy that He would be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights. Jesus was not resurrected on Sunday but on Saturday! If you read Matthew 28:1-9 you'll see that Mary and Mary Magdalene did not discover Jesus had risen until early dawn on Sunday morning, but it does not say Jesus was risen on Sunday. So then what was the approaching Sabbath that hastened putting Jesus in the tomb? In Leviticus 23, seven annual Sabbaths are mentioned. The Passover is to be celebrated on the 14th day of first month of the Jewish calendar (i.e. Nisan) at evening. The next day, or the 15th day of the first month, is the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread which is an anuual Sabbath. This is the annual Sabbath which happened to fall on Wednesday sundown to Thursday sundown when Jesus died which hastened his entombment. Please remember that a Jewish day is from sundown to sundown, starting with night-time and then day-time since God established this pattern in Genesis 1:5.
The seven annual Sabbaths given by God are:
1. First day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread - 15th day of first Jewish month
2. Seventh day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread - 21st day of the first Jewish month
3. Day of Pentecost
4. Blowing of Trumpets - 1st day of the seventh Jewish month
5. Day of Atonement - 10th day of the seventh Jewish month
6. First Day of Feast of Tabernacles - 15th day of seventh Jewish month
7. Day after Feast of Tabernacles - 22nd day of seventh Jewish month
[8]
Now back to Easter. Now the fertility goddess, Inanna or Ishtar, had a husband or male counterpart named Tammuz. The myth is that Tammuz died and went to the underworld but Inanna was so distraught that she went to the underworld to get back Tammuz. Now Inanna, being representative of Mother Earth, failed to provide for the earth when she was in the underworld so she was allowed to bring Tammuz back to life. Thus, the resurrection of Tammuz is celebrated during this time. The Israelites partook of this idolatry as mentioned in Ezekial 8:13-16: [6]
"13He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do. 14Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD's house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz. 15Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. 16And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east." [7]
The Passover or in Hebrew 'pesach', celebrates how the LORD passed over the Israelites who placed the blood of a lamb on their door posts but which struck down the first born of the Egyptians, finally causing Pharoah to relent and let YHWH's people go. The pesach is to be celebrated on the 14th day of the first month of the Jewish calender, which is Nisan. Nisan occurs during March and April. Now during the last supper, or more aptly, during the Passover with His disciples Jesus said " 26And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. 27And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; 28For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." (Matthew 26:26-28) Notice that this is a remembrance of Jesus' sacrificial death for the remission of sins. In Luke 22:19 he commands that we partake of the bread and the cup in remembrance of Him. Jesus Christ never commands that we commemorate His resurrection but only His sacrifice for the remission of sins. Easter on the other hand, does emphasize the resurection of Jesus Christ or Tammuz depending on whether you celebrate it as a Christian or a pagan.
It's interesting that many celebrate Pascha/Pascua/Passover while many English speaking nations celebrate Easter. But remember that just because they don't call it Easter does not mean they don't celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Bishop Polycarp of Smyrna (circa 190 A.D.), a disciple of the apostle John, held the celebration should be on 14th day of Nisan, in accordance with the Scriptures and with the practice of the apostle John and the other apostles he knew. Over time, with more gentiles in the church and a desire to deviate from Jewish practice, the Sunday observance of Passover became more common. In 325 A.D., the First Council of Nicaea determined it should be observed on a Sunday. [9]
The Roman Bishop Victor wanted Christian to observe Passover on Sunday rather than on 14th of Nisan. Bishop Polycrates of Smyrna responded to him thusly:
"We observe the exact day; neither adding, nor taking away. For in Asia also great lights have fallen asleep, which shall rise again on the day of the Lord's coming, when he shall come with glory from heaven, and shall seek out all the saints. Among these are Philip, one of the twelve apostles, who fell asleep in Hierapolis; and his two aged virgin daughters, and another daughter, who lived in the Holy Spirit and now rests at Ephesus; and, moreover, John, who was both a witness and a teacher, who reclined upon the bosom of the Lord, and, being a priest, wore the sacerdotal plate. He fell asleep at Ephesus. And Polycarp in Smyrna, who was a bishop and martyr; and Thraseas, bishop and martyr from Eumenia, who fell asleep in Smyrna. Why need I mention the bishop and martyr Sagaris who fell asleep in Laodicea, or the blessed Papirius, or Melito, the Eunuch who lived altogether in the Holy Spirit, and who lies in Sardis, awaiting the episcopate from heaven, when he shall rise from the dead? All these observed the fourteenth day of the passover according to the Gospel, deviating in no respect, but following the rule of faith. And I also, Polycrates, the least of you all, do according to the tradition of my relatives, some of whom I have closely followed. For seven of my relatives were bishops; and I am the eighth. And my relatives always observed the day when the people put away the leaven. I, therefore, brethren, who have lived sixty-five years in the Lord, and have met with the brethren throughout the world, and have gone through every Holy Scripture, am not affrighted by terrifying words. For those greater than I have said ' We ought to obey God rather than man'" [12]
In Polycrates' letter we see that the apostles Philip and John, as well as John's disciple Polycarp followed the Passover on the 14th of Nisan and not Sunday. Furthermore, even Bishop Polycarp of Smryna contested with the Roman Bishop Anicetus over this very point. Irenaeus wrote:
"And when the blessed Polycarp was sojourning in Rome in the time of Anicetus, although a slight controversy had arisen among them as to certain other points…For neither could Anicetus persuade Polycarp to forego the observance [in his own way], inasmuch as these things had been always observed by John the disciple of our Lord, and by other apostles with whom he had been conversant; nor, on the other hand, could Polycarp succeed in persuading Anicetus to keep [the observance in his way], for he maintained that he was bound to adhere to the usage of the presbyters who preceded him. And in this state of affairs they held fellowship with each other; and Anicetus conceded to Polycarp in the Church the celebration of the Eucharist, by way of showing him respect; so that they parted in peace one from the other, maintaining peace with the whole Church, both those who did observe [this custom] and those who did not" [13]
Polycarp was taught and discipled by the apostle John who in turn was discipled by the Lord Jesus Christ. Anicetus could make no such claim of apostolic authority. Polycarp had even met with other apostles who had seen the Lord. Even the Lord Jesus Christ kept the Passover (Matthew 26:17-30). In Exodus 12, commands the Israelites to observe the Passover on the 14th day of the first month (Nisan) and Exodus 12:14 God commands "And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever." Thus, the Passover is to be a feast to the LORD that is observed forever! The Lord Jesus Christ Himself said "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18).
Now lest you say this only applies to the Israelites and not the gentiles, please also remember "4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." (Ephesians 4:4-6). And lest you say we are people of the new covenant and Israel was under the old, then remember that God's new covenant is with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. Jeremiah 31:31 reads "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:". Thus, we are without excuse for not observing the Passover on the 14th of Nisan.
Now, I have some questions and comments.
1. Should there be a Good Friday commemoration of Jesus' death when Jesus did not die on Friday?
2. Should there be a Good Friday commemoration of Jesus' death when Jesus Himself clearly instructed us to remember His sacrifice at the Passover?
3. Should we rename the Passover with the name of a fertility goddess?
"And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?" 2 Corinthians 6:15
"Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen" Jeremiah 10:2
4. Should we celebrate Resurrection Sunday when Jesus was not raised on Sunday but on Saturday?
5. Should we celebrate the Passover on a day other than 14 Nisan when according to Polycarp that was the example of the apostle John and other apostles and of the Scriptures?
6. Should we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus when 1) Jesus did not command us to celebrate His resurrection and 2) the celebration of Tammuz is celebrated around the same time?
I am concerned over the repeating history of the Catholic church taking on pagan holidays and "Christianizing" them. It took the Druid Samhain and called it "All Saints Day" or "All Hallow's Eve" which is now known as Halloween. It took Yule and the Roman Saturnalia festivals and morphed them into Christmas, celebrating Jesus birthday on December 25th when 1) Jesus was likely born in September or October, 2) Jesus did not command us to celebrate His birthday, 3) birthday celebrations have pagan origins, 4) December 25th is the traditional birthday of many solar gods such as Sol Invictus, Mithras, Osiris, Horus, Buddha, Krishna and so on [10] 5) Jesus Christ is not a solar diety but the unique Son of God and Savior of the world and 6) Christmas is associated with the winter solstice and the sun being reborn as it once again gains strength? And if that were not enough, the Catholic church calls Mary the Queen of Heaven, the title of the Egyptian goddess Isis. Jeremiah 7:18 talks about how the Israelites prostituted themselves to queen of heaven. So if Catholics pray or worship Mary, are they praying or worshipping Mary or Isis since both are the queen of heaven. Remember, that the same fetility goddess has various names in different cultures. So when Christians celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ at Easter as pagans are celebrating the resurrectionof Tammuz, are we not giving credence to the pagan claim that Jesus is just one more solar diety that was resurrected like Mithras, Osiris, Horus, Krishna and Buddha? The source of paganism or mystery religions started (or recommenced if you believe the ante-deluvian Watchers introduced astrology to mankind as the Book of Enoch relates) with Nimrod, his wife Semiramis and Semiramis' son Tammuz [11]. We were commanded to "contend for the faith" so why have we allowed paganism to slip into Christianity? When the Protestant church came out of Roman Catholicism it did well to leave many false doctrines behind but it still took some pagan heritage with it. It's time we return to the faith and practice of the apostles and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Sources:
[1] [link to www.religioustolerance.org]
[2] [link to altreligion.about.com]
[3] [link to www.billswebsite.com]
[4] [link to www.indobase.com]
[5] [link to www.factnet.org]
[6] [link to www.prime.org]
[7] [link to www.biblegateway.com]
[8] [link to www.sundaylaw.net]
[9] [link to en.wikipedia.org]
[10] [link to paganizingfaithofyeshua.netfirms.com]
[11] [link to www.allaboutjesuschrist.org]
[12] Eusebius. Church History, Book V, Chapter 24. Translated by Arthur Cushman McGiffert. Excerpted from Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Series Two, Volume 1. Edited by Philip Schaff and Henry Wace. American Edition, 1890. Online Edition Copyright © 2004 by K. Knight
[13] FRAGMENTS FROM THE LOST WRITINGS OF IRENAEUS. Translated by Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson. Excerpted from Volume I of The Ante-Nicene Fathers (Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson, editors); American Edition copyright © 1885. Electronic version copyright © 1997 by New Advent, Inc.
[14] [link to www.allaboutjesuschrist.org]
[15] [link to www.zenzibar.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 504249
9/5/2009 12:34 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
After an economic collapse where dollar is highly devalued and there is hyperinflation, fighting wars on many fronts including Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Syria, North Korea and Taiwan, a great California earthquake where everything west of San Andreas fault falls into ocean causing great tsunamis on West Coast and great New Madrid earthquake where Lake Michigan spills into Midwest and makes its way to Gulf of Mexico .... after all that, the USA will be extremely weakened so that the Communisits at tht point will attack the USA first by a sneak Russian sub nuclear attack on the east and west coast followed by land invasion of USA by Russia, China, Japan, Cuba, Mexico, Nicaragua and others. No one nation would dare attack the USA but together after the USA is very weakened they will attack.
OP
you broke GLP law #4
I will not copy and paste a entire book on one post!!!
Now
you info is good but break it down. any normal human will not take the time to read that much info!
Your timing might be a little off but good info!
ice Quoting: Ice
op... way too much info to break down any further.. good post! |
| Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/5/2009 8:15 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
It is alot of info. The summary you included above is quite good for what's going to happen to America. But I also want to warn about the things that are wrong in the institutional churches, particularly Protestantism. Yes, I also think there are many problems with Roman Catholicism. The best summary of this is in the "Rebuke of the Organized Church". Though now I'm going a little more into the details for those who want the details.
I have a burden to warn. Sometimes when you look for results it can be frustrating. Many New Agers will be deceived when the archangel Michael defeats Satan and Satan and his fallen angels, whether they be Pleidians or Reptilian shape-shifters, come down here to earth and tell the people that they sent Krishna, Buddha, Mohammed, Yahshua, Quetzcoatl and that they have now come back as promised. They'll say all these were just ascended masters and people misinterpreted what they said and this will bring in the one world religion, the New Age. Roger Mornea spoke of this deception. And Yahweh will give people over to this deception because they loved not the truth.
An example of how people don't love the truth is having been a Protestant for many, many years, I've warned my friends about such things as the pagan origin of Christmas. Yet many just say it's about Jesus, He's the reason for the season and completeldy disregard the warning in Jeremiah about not following the ways of the pagans. What do I make of this? In the end, I think they may love their fellowship and social status more than the truth because I can tell you it's cost most of my friendships with Protestants to stand up and warn them of the paganism in the church and how they've disobeyed Torah/law. And of course, they just come back and say it was done away with. Even, when Yahshua clearly said he came to fulfill Torah not abolish it. Yet some even try to use this verse.
So I find myself aligned the doctrine of Messianic Jews and the Church of God started by Herbert Armstrong. I think these are closer to the truth. And as for the coming judgments, I hope to leave America when they start to fall. Prophet Tom Deckard is the only one I know of who says he's called to lead Ephraim out of America (and presumably other countries) back to Israel. He's teaching is in accordance to what I've discovered and he has signs and wonders accompanying him. I think those who want to break free or have broken free of the pagan influences of "Christianity" should look to him. Cliff Hilbert said that Yahweh made it clear to him that 80% of what he was given to say was for only 5% or less of the people. I agree with him. Few will listen. It's sad but true. We have so many material blessings in this country and it's going to come to end. I don't know when but I suspect strongly within 3 years much will have happened. So I'll give the warning and entrust the results to Yahweh.
Thanks for reading! |
| Once4All
User ID: 739386
9/5/2009 10:03 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Fulfilled prophecy is the certain evidence that God's Word [i.e., Holy Scripture] is true! Biblical scholars tell us that there are over two thousand fulfilled prophecies found in the Bible. Of these, over three hundred acurately give specific details about the historical Jesus. For example, Isaiah 53 was written over seven hundred years before the birth of Jesus Christ and yet it beautifully describes His life: "He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows... and afflicted. He was pierced for our sins and crushed for our iniquities. The punishment that brought us peace was upon Him and by His wounds we are healed." Indeed, this whole chapter describes the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ with amazing accuracy. Fulfilled prophecy is the undeniable evidence that the Holy Spirit is the origins of human history. Even the birth place of the Messiah was foretold in Holy Scripture [Micah 5:2]. Biblical prophecy has never failed.
An honest, sincere study of the more than two thousand fulfilled prophecies in the Bible will led anyone - who is searching for THE TRUTH - to the absolute knowledge that Jesus is Lord! And, once certain that many prophecies are already fulfilled, we have confidence that those prophecies still unfulfilled must now happen sometime soon. Specifically, a great war will take place in the Middle East [Armageddon] between Israel, Russia, and other nations; the war will cause such destruction that Jesus Himself will have to intervene [the Second Coming]; and, He will judge the living and the dead. The faithful will recieve everlasting life while those who love evil will be condemned.
All biblical prophecy is now becoming revealed in human history. May the Holy Spirit open your eyes to understand, believe, and reform your life in Jesus holy name. The reward for your new faith is nothing less than eternal happiness with God and all his saints! Open your heart and believe in the One who already believes in YOU : )
Summer 2008: Many times the Holy Spirit is telling me that "Obama wins." Looks like we are heading into an Obama-Nation.
Nov. 6, 2008: "Obama is a spirit" Many people in our nation our now looking to the government to fulfill our needs instead of to God. They will be gravely disappointed.
Nov. 7, 2008: "The New World Order is coming." The Holy Spirit told me this just yesterday. His words can be as simple as speaking about something that will happen in my daily life to something much more profound. This latest statement yesterday compels me to begin posting what the Lord is saying to me. If you do not understand the implications of "The New World Order" then you may want to google the term to discover how dangerous this will be for the church. I also know that youtube.com has a clip of President Bush 41 proclaim "The New World Order" bringing "peace" and "security" to our world. These things will usher in the Great Tribulation.
Thanksgiving Day, 2008: "Time is short, Eddie"
December 2008: "Something terrible is going to happen."
"Hunker down." Had to look this one up. I knew it meant something like: 'be careful.' It actually means "To dig in or settle in for a SUSTAINED period." I did not know that! I believe that God is telling me to become as self-sufficient as possible.
February 9, 2009: "Your country [USA] is bankrupt."
March 3, 2009: "Nuclear War, Ed." A month or so earlier He said, "Pray for the whole world."
March 6, 2009: "There is not enough economic aid."
March 7, 2009: "President Obama is dead." [I have no idea about whether this is just spiritually or perhaps indicating a future assasination.]
April 22, 2009: "Another broken-arrow." Broken Arrow indicates a stolen or lost nuclear weapon in hostile hands.
May 2009: "The dollar will burn." "War is comming." He also said, "Everything is going to crash." I believe He is talking about the world economy and fiat currencies. Of course, they have to crash relative to something else - I think - and that would be silver and gold.
May 30, 2009: I belive the Lord Jesus is saying that the War is Coming to Korea. [I hope and pray I'm wrong.]
June 6, 2009: "The bankruptcy of California is coming!"
July 24, 2009: "The Jews will attack Iran."
"Iran will go to war." "The United States is going to war." I find it interesting that the Lord keeps saying that the USA is GOING to war. The USA is already fighting in Iraq and Afganistan.
Aug 5, 2009: "Another World War."
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After reading all these prophecies I thought I'd post what Jesus is saying to me.
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[link to savemenowjesus.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 739386
9/5/2009 10:35 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Thank you OP...
FOR THE TRUTH!
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754473
9/5/2009 10:39 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
Quote :
"""Russia invades US from east, China and Japan from west, and Mexico, Cuba, Nicaragua and others assist Russia/China/Japan in invasion"""".
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 747709
9/5/2009 10:50 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
June 6, 2009: "The bankruptcy of California is coming!"
They were talking about it for months before that. |
| Once4All
User ID: 739386
9/5/2009 10:57 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
June 6, 2009: "The bankruptcy of California is coming!"
They were talking about it for months before that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 747709
True. They were but it hadn't happened yet! Has it happened now? Last I heard on the news a few big banks were supposedly supposed to purchase her IOUs. Are you aware of how many times in the past the bankrupcy of something was 'rescued' at the last minute? What about the other prophesies??? Over 2000 have already been fulfulled in the bible about Jesus! You have an objection to each one??? Keeping your eyes tightly shut won't help you! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 747709
9/5/2009 11:00 PM | | Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010 | Quote |
You are mixing up this shit with Jesus.
That is already a serious mis-representation. |
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