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Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010

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Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/6/2009 2:51 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Thank you Once4All for sharing these prophecies you have received from Yahshuah. They are very consistent and re-affirming of what Yahshua is tell His prophets through His Holy Spirit (Ruach ha'Kodesh). I hope others will also share what Yahweh is saying to His people through His servants, the prophets for the edification and building up of the body.

I've requoted your prophecies below with my comments in italics.

---
Summer 2008: Many times the Holy Spirit is telling me that "Obama wins." Looks like we are heading into an Obama-Nation.

Indeed Obama did win.

Nov. 6, 2008: "Obama is a spirit" Many people in our nation our now looking to the government to fulfill our needs instead of to God. They will be gravely disappointed.

Obama seems to be an anti-christ type; I sense he desires and likes the adoration of the people and has a haughty and deceitful spirit. People will indeed be disappointed in his CHANGE.

Nov. 7, 2008: "The New World Order is coming." The Holy Spirit told me this just yesterday. His words can be as simple as speaking about something that will happen in my daily life to something much more profound. This latest statement yesterday compels me to begin posting what the Lord is saying to me. If you do not understand the implications of "The New World Order" then you may want to google the term to discover how dangerous this will be for the church. I also know that youtube.com has a clip of President Bush 41 proclaim "The New World Order" bringing "peace" and "security" to our world. These things will usher in the Great Tribulation.

More than ever before, politicians are now openly talking about a New World Order, are looking to establish a global currency on IMF SDR's and a global health authority based on World Health Organization (WHO). We are clearly starting to see world government. Wait for a global financial ruling authority to be established to oversee world economy and finance after the great economic fall.

Thanksgiving Day, 2008: "Time is short, Eddie"

December 2008: "Something terrible is going to happen."

"Hunker down." Had to look this one up. I knew it meant something like: 'be careful.' It actually means "To dig in or settle in for a SUSTAINED period." I did not know that! I believe that God is telling me to become as self-sufficient as possible.

Prophet Tom Deckard has said we should have about 6 months supply of food on hand per person for when a national quarantine is called due to bird flu. Water filter, water, candles, hand-crank flashlights, colloidal silver, oil of oregano and olive leave extract, vitamin D3 and vitamin C might also be helpful.

February 9, 2009: "Your country [USA] is bankrupt."

We have an $11 TRILLION debt and if we include unfunded liabilities such as Social Security, Medicare and federal pensions it's about $55 TRILLION to $100 TRILLION. Our annual GDP is about $15 TRILLION as a measure of comparison. The party can only continue while credit is extended by China, Japan, Russia and OPEC. When they stop buying, the monetization by the Fed will have to increase until the dollar becomes a joke. Then get ready for a bank holiday and dollar devaluation.

March 3, 2009: "Nuclear War, Ed." A month or so earlier He said, "Pray for the whole world."

Nuclear war may be in the coming Israel vs Iran/Syria/Hezbollah/Hamas war. Israel has a long-standing policy of attacking nuclear facilities in Middle East. It's not going to change. It's giving the west time for negotiations but these will not work. In September or October, time will have run out on Iran to negotiate. This opens up the possibility for Israel to attack. They already have permission to fly-over Saudi Arabia. If this war does not go nuclear then WW3 between US and Russia/China certainly will.

March 6, 2009: "There is not enough economic aid."

March 7, 2009: "President Obama is dead." [I have no idea about whether this is just spiritually or perhaps indicating a future assasination.]

Matthew Stephen's has prophecied Obama will be assisinated or at least removed from office. There are Bible codes that hint at Obama's assasination or at least attempted assisination. There have already been an attempt on his life. He is pushing this nation quickly to a fascist state which many do not want to see so expect a back-lash. Many prophecies speak of civil war and riots. C Alan Martin, Matthew Stephen and youtuber KnowJesusKnowPeace indicate Obama is last president of USA as constitutional republic.

April 22, 2009: "Another broken-arrow." Broken Arrow indicates a stolen or lost nuclear weapon in hostile hands.

Prophet Tom Deckard talks about Yahweh told him to call US president after the fall of the Soviet Union to tell him to buy all the nukes and nuclear scientists from Russia because if we didn't they would be used on our soil. Al-Qaeda has said they plan on bombing 7 American cities. A Pakastani rebel has said he will hit Washington DC. Matthew Stephens prophesied about 7 cities being hit including New York City, Washington DC and LA. Operation BlackJack hints at a 7 city terrorist attack hitting NY city, Washington DC, LA, Portland, London, Toronto, Mexico City in an false flag event the US uses to default on debt, institute martial law, introduce National ID, get control of press and internet and institute mark of the beast chip.

May 2009: "The dollar will burn." "War is comming." He also said, "Everything is going to crash." I believe He is talking about the world economy and fiat currencies. Of course, they have to crash relative to something else - I think - and that would be silver and gold.

Prophet Tom Deckard shared a vision where he saw a news reporter on TV say you might as well go and burn your dollars because they are worthless. Amos Scaggs, Chuck Youngbrandt, Rich Vermillion also prophesy of the lose of value of dollar and hyperinflation. Rich Vermillion, Robert Holmes, Thomas Gibson speak of the fall of the stock market.
Prophecies indicate that dollar will collapse, stock market will collapse and real estate market will collapse as will the economy. The prophets seems to point to gold and silver as a means to preserve wealth along with considering off-shore banking. In the end the prophecies indicate fiat currencies which are backed by nothing will all fall. In the last several years as the USA has been printing money and devaluing the dollar, other countries have been forced to do likewise so that their currencies to not become so strong as to hurt their exports to the USA.


May 30, 2009: I belive the Lord Jesus is saying that the War is Coming to Korea. [I hope and pray I'm wrong.]

Chuck Youngbrandt prophesied that in the first year of a 3 year scenario where the US in nuked and invaded, North Korea will invade South Korea, China will invade Taiwan and the US will be involved in a Middle East war (perhaps helping Israel against Iran) where the USA gets hurt. It is important to note when this haapens because in the thrird year, the USA is nuked and invaded so this can provide important timing information as to when to leave. Thomas Gibson says WW3 starts by 2010 so expect the Middle East war and North Korea invasion of South Korea to start by 2010. That's my interpretation of the prophecy.

June 6, 2009: "The bankruptcy of California is coming!"

July 24, 2009: "The Jews will attack Iran."

"Iran will go to war." "The United States is going to war." I find it interesting that the Lord keeps saying that the USA is GOING to war. The USA is already fighting in Iraq and Afganistan.

This prophecy makes clear that the Jews will attack Iran. Although I suspected this, I don't think I had seen the prophecy of this. Leslie Johnson prophecies about this war and that America will help. Israel survives but is likely badly hurt. America also gets hurt. Prophet Tom Deckard has talked about leading Ephraim to Israel but just like in the original exodus we will be in the desert for about 40 years. I had previously thought we would go to Israel immediately after this war but now know it will be about 40 years after we leave America that we will come into the promised land. For people looking to leave Israel soon, please reconsider becaues Israel is going to be badly hurt and you may not make it past the war. Rather wait for Yahweh's timing.

Aug 5, 2009: "Another World War."

After the great California earthquake and great New Madrid earthquake, Russian subs will nuke California, Las Vegas, New York and Florida, followed by and invasion from the west by China and Japan, from the east from Russia and possibly from the south by Cuba, Mexico, Nicaragua and other(s). This is World War 3. Later, in WW4/Armageddon Russia will invade Europe and China will pursue Russia into Europe. There something will make them stop fighting. Perhaps seeing the sign of the son of man, Yahshua coming in the clouds. Then they will make a treaty in Paris assigning the Russians as their leader and invade Israel. The armies of Russia/China and all who join them will be annihilated by the sword of Yahshua as his people call on his name for salvation, mourning for the one they have pierced.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 762162
9/6/2009 3:20 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Thank you Once4All for sharing these prophecies you have received from Yahshuah. They are very consistent and re-affirming of what Yahshua is tell His prophets through His Holy Spirit (Ruach ha'Kodesh). I hope others will also share what Yahweh is saying to His people through His servants, the prophets for the edification and building up of the body.

I've requoted your prophecies below with my comments in italics.

---
Summer 2008: Many times the Holy Spirit is telling me that "Obama wins." Looks like we are heading into an Obama-Nation.

Indeed Obama did win.

Nov. 6, 2008: "Obama is a spirit" Many people in our nation our now looking to the government to fulfill our needs instead of to God. They will be gravely disappointed.

Obama seems to be an anti-christ type; I sense he desires and likes the adoration of the people and has a haughty and deceitful spirit. People will indeed be disappointed in his CHANGE.

Nov. 7, 2008: "The New World Order is coming." The Holy Spirit told me this just yesterday. His words can be as simple as speaking about something that will happen in my daily life to something much more profound. This latest statement yesterday compels me to begin posting what the Lord is saying to me. If you do not understand the implications of "The New World Order" then you may want to google the term to discover how dangerous this will be for the church. I also know that youtube.com has a clip of President Bush 41 proclaim "The New World Order" bringing "peace" and "security" to our world. These things will usher in the Great Tribulation.

More than ever before, politicians are now openly talking about a New World Order, are looking to establish a global currency on IMF SDR's and a global health authority based on World Health Organization (WHO). We are clearly starting to see world government. Wait for a global financial ruling authority to be established to oversee world economy and finance after the great economic fall.

Thanksgiving Day, 2008: "Time is short, Eddie"

December 2008: "Something terrible is going to happen."

"Hunker down." Had to look this one up. I knew it meant something like: 'be careful.' It actually means "To dig in or settle in for a SUSTAINED period." I did not know that! I believe that God is telling me to become as self-sufficient as possible.

Prophet Tom Deckard has said we should have about 6 months supply of food on hand per person for when a national quarantine is called due to bird flu. Water filter, water, candles, hand-crank flashlights, colloidal silver, oil of oregano and olive leave extract, vitamin D3 and vitamin C might also be helpful.

February 9, 2009: "Your country [USA] is bankrupt."

We have an $11 TRILLION debt and if we include unfunded liabilities such as Social Security, Medicare and federal pensions it's about $55 TRILLION to $100 TRILLION. Our annual GDP is about $15 TRILLION as a measure of comparison. The party can only continue while credit is extended by China, Japan, Russia and OPEC. When they stop buying, the monetization by the Fed will have to increase until the dollar becomes a joke. Then get ready for a bank holiday and dollar devaluation.

March 3, 2009: "Nuclear War, Ed." A month or so earlier He said, "Pray for the whole world."

Nuclear war may be in the coming Israel vs Iran/Syria/Hezbollah/Hamas war. Israel has a long-standing policy of attacking nuclear facilities in Middle East. It's not going to change. It's giving the west time for negotiations but these will not work. In September or October, time will have run out on Iran to negotiate. This opens up the possibility for Israel to attack. They already have permission to fly-over Saudi Arabia. If this war does not go nuclear then WW3 between US and Russia/China certainly will.

March 6, 2009: "There is not enough economic aid."

March 7, 2009: "President Obama is dead." [I have no idea about whether this is just spiritually or perhaps indicating a future assasination.]

Matthew Stephen's has prophecied Obama will be assisinated or at least removed from office. There are Bible codes that hint at Obama's assasination or at least attempted assisination. There have already been an attempt on his life. He is pushing this nation quickly to a fascist state which many do not want to see so expect a back-lash. Many prophecies speak of civil war and riots. C Alan Martin, Matthew Stephen and youtuber KnowJesusKnowPeace indicate Obama is last president of USA as constitutional republic.

April 22, 2009: "Another broken-arrow." Broken Arrow indicates a stolen or lost nuclear weapon in hostile hands.

Prophet Tom Deckard talks about Yahweh told him to call US president after the fall of the Soviet Union to tell him to buy all the nukes and nuclear scientists from Russia because if we didn't they would be used on our soil. Al-Qaeda has said they plan on bombing 7 American cities. A Pakastani rebel has said he will hit Washington DC. Matthew Stephens prophesied about 7 cities being hit including New York City, Washington DC and LA. Operation BlackJack hints at a 7 city terrorist attack hitting NY city, Washington DC, LA, Portland, London, Toronto, Mexico City in an false flag event the US uses to default on debt, institute martial law, introduce National ID, get control of press and internet and institute mark of the beast chip.

May 2009: "The dollar will burn." "War is comming." He also said, "Everything is going to crash." I believe He is talking about the world economy and fiat currencies. Of course, they have to crash relative to something else - I think - and that would be silver and gold.

Prophet Tom Deckard shared a vision where he saw a news reporter on TV say you might as well go and burn your dollars because they are worthless. Amos Scaggs, Chuck Youngbrandt, Rich Vermillion also prophesy of the lose of value of dollar and hyperinflation. Rich Vermillion, Robert Holmes, Thomas Gibson speak of the fall of the stock market.
Prophecies indicate that dollar will collapse, stock market will collapse and real estate market will collapse as will the economy. The prophets seems to point to gold and silver as a means to preserve wealth along with considering off-shore banking. In the end the prophecies indicate fiat currencies which are backed by nothing will all fall. In the last several years as the USA has been printing money and devaluing the dollar, other countries have been forced to do likewise so that their currencies to not become so strong as to hurt their exports to the USA.


May 30, 2009: I belive the Lord Jesus is saying that the War is Coming to Korea. [I hope and pray I'm wrong.]

Chuck Youngbrandt prophesied that in the first year of a 3 year scenario where the US in nuked and invaded, North Korea will invade South Korea, China will invade Taiwan and the US will be involved in a Middle East war (perhaps helping Israel against Iran) where the USA gets hurt. It is important to note when this haapens because in the thrird year, the USA is nuked and invaded so this can provide important timing information as to when to leave. Thomas Gibson says WW3 starts by 2010 so expect the Middle East war and North Korea invasion of South Korea to start by 2010. That's my interpretation of the prophecy.

June 6, 2009: "The bankruptcy of California is coming!"

July 24, 2009: "The Jews will attack Iran."

"Iran will go to war." "The United States is going to war." I find it interesting that the Lord keeps saying that the USA is GOING to war. The USA is already fighting in Iraq and Afganistan.

This prophecy makes clear that the Jews will attack Iran. Although I suspected this, I don't think I had seen the prophecy of this. Leslie Johnson prophecies about this war and that America will help. Israel survives but is likely badly hurt. America also gets hurt. Prophet Tom Deckard has talked about leading Ephraim to Israel but just like in the original exodus we will be in the desert for about 40 years. I had previously thought we would go to Israel immediately after this war but now know it will be about 40 years after we leave America that we will come into the promised land. For people looking to leave Israel soon, please reconsider becaues Israel is going to be badly hurt and you may not make it past the war. Rather wait for Yahweh's timing.

Aug 5, 2009: "Another World War."

After the great California earthquake and great New Madrid earthquake, Russian subs will nuke California, Las Vegas, New York and Florida, followed by and invasion from the west by China and Japan, from the east from Russia and possibly from the south by Cuba, Mexico, Nicaragua and other(s). This is World War 3. Later, in WW4/Armageddon Russia will invade Europe and China will pursue Russia into Europe. There something will make them stop fighting. Perhaps seeing the sign of the son of man, Yahshua coming in the clouds. Then they will make a treaty in Paris assigning the Russians as their leader and invade Israel. The armies of Russia/China and all who join them will be annihilated by the sword of Yahshua as his people call on his name for salvation, mourning for the one they have pierced.
 Quoting: Watchman of Yahweh 762096

what a blood thirsty asshole spirit sitting somewhere out there in piss-pool of evil sort of aether and craving for wars. But they (the wars he wishes for) do not work out as he would like, and the 'prophetic' (read wishful) gory transmissions to the earth continue, promising more and more blood every time.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 762162
9/6/2009 3:56 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

AC 1212 is a moronic morAn
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/6/2009 5:20 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

The Pagan Origin of Christmas

Before Christ was born, December 25th was celebrated as the rebirth of Deus Sol Invictus,
the Invincible Sun God. The pagans saw that at the winter solstice, the sun was at it's
weakest point and thus thought their sun god was dead. But a few days later on December 25th
the sun starts to shine brighter and so they thought their sun god was reborn.

This festival was called Saturnalia and Yule. In the festival, such things as evergreen trees,
wreaths, holly, mistletoe were used. The evergreen tree, now called a Christmas tree, was
a phallic symbol. In the Scripture God warns us not learn the ways of the heathen. What's
interesting is in the same passage He talks about the forerunner of the Christmas tree.
Jeremiah 10:2-4 reads "Thus saith the Lord, learn not the way of the heathen; and be not
dismayed at the signs of heaven. For the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of
the people are vain. For one cutteth a tree out of the forest. The work of the hands of the
workman with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold. They fasten it with nails and
with hammers that it move not."

So how did Christmas come about? Christmas comes from Christ Mass, a Roman Catholic term.
The Roman Catholic Church has a long tradition of bringing in the pagans and extending it's
control by usurping pagan traditions and festivals and re-labeling them with Christian terms.
Samhain, the Celtic festival, became All Saints Day or All Hallow's Eve or our Halloween.
Mary, became Queen of Heaven, the term for the pagan godesses Isis and Diana. And Saturnalia
or Yule is now Christmas.

Should we celebrate Christ's birth on December 25th? Consider that Yahshua did not command us
to celebrate His birthday but to remember His sacrifice for us, that December 25th is not His
birthday which was more likely in September and finally that December 25th or thereabouts is
the celebrated birthday of Sol Invictus, Horus/Osiris of Egypt, Mithras of Persia, Krishna of
India, Attis of Phrygia and Dionysus/Bacchus.

Seems like the Roman Catholic Church has been busy doing the devil's bidding of uniting all
pagan religions along with Christianity for when the antichrist comes. The New Age religion
has done a similar thing in uniting all religions and calling each of their gods, Ascended
Masters. This is a setup for the Great Delusion which occurs when the antichrist comes.


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Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/6/2009 5:23 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Paganism in Culture: Birthday Celebrations and St. Valentine's Day

Jeremiah 10:2
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

There are traditions in our national culture and in the cultures of many other nations that are based on paganism but which people do year after year, as part of the culture, as part of the traditions without even reflecting on the origin of such practices. After the flood, paganism or Mystery Babylon got restarted with Nimrod and Semiramis who attempted to build the Tower of Babel. After the confusion of the languages, the peoples dispersed throughout the world forming different nations but carrying with them the same paganism wherever they went. And so we see the same pantheon of gods worshpped in different nations albeit with different names, whether it be the Sumerian pantheon (the source) or the Egyptian, Greek, Roman or Scandinavian pantheons. And paganism has survived through the ages in such groups and organizations as the Druids, Knight Templars, Freemasonry, Golden Dawn, Wicca and others.

Leviticus 17:7 (Amplified Bible)
7So they shall no more offer their sacrifices to goatlike gods or demons or field spirits after which they have played the harlot. This shall be a statute forever to them throughout their generations.

Leviticus 19:26-28 (Amplified Bible)
26You shall not eat anything with the blood; neither shall you use magic, omens, or witchcraft [or predict events by horoscope or signs and lucky days].
27You shall not round the corners of the hair of your heads nor trim the corners of your beard [as some idolaters do].
28You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead nor print or tattoo any marks upon you; I am the Lord.

Deuteronomy 18:9-12 (Young's Literal Translation)
9`When thou art coming in unto the land which Jehovah thy God is giving to thee, thou dost not learn to do according to the abominations of those nations:
10there is not found in thee one causing his son and his daughter to pass over into fire, a user of divinations, an observer of clouds, and an enchanter, and a sorcerer,
11and a charmer, and one asking at a familiar spirit, and a wizard, and one seeking unto the dead.
12`For the abomination of Jehovah [is] every one doing these, and because of these abominations is Jehovah thy God dispossessing them from thy presence.

When Yahweh was leading the Israelites to the land of the Caananites, He warned them not to learn the ways of these people because it was because of their wickedness that they were going to be destroyed. Yahweh warns them not to learn pagan ways such as drinking blood, cutting onself for the dead, putting on tattoos, adultery, homosexuality, sexual immorality, divination, sorcery, making idols, sacrificing children to idols and demons. It's interesting that Leviticus l7:7 commands the Israelites not to sacrifice to goat-like gods. The Knight Templars are supposed to have worshipped Baphomet, a goat-like god. And in the Greek or Roman mythologians we have Pan, the goat-like creature.

As it turns out the Israelites made a treaty with some of the Caananites agreeing not to destroy them and ended up learning the way of the pagans: they followed Baal and Asherah, sacrificed their children to Molech, worshipped idols. Because of this, just as Yahweh had promised, he kicked them out of the land. The ten northen tribes of Israel were invaded and conquered by the Syrians and were then dispersed and intermixed with other peoples. The two southern tribes of Judah and Benjamin were conquered by Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon and were taken into exile for seventy years. Are we following in the way of the pagans and will Yahweh also judge this nation? Yahweh judged Sodom and Gomorrah for their homosexuality, sexual immorality and unkindness to strangers. Won't He also judge us for abortions of innocent children, adultery, homosexuality and sexual immorality of this nation? If he's consistent
he will and we know that Yahushua is the same yesterday, today and forever. I recommend you read the prophecies of Dimutru Duduman and Tom Deckard to see the judgment that is coming to this nation.

“After one's own birthday, the two major Satanic holidays are Walpurgisnacht and Halloween (or All Hallows' Eve). [...] Halloween - All Hallows' Eve, or All Saints' Day - falls on October 31st or November 1st. Originally, All Hallows' Eve was one of the great fire festivals of Britain at the time of the Druids. In Scotland it was associated with the time when the spirits of the dead, the demons, witches, and sorcerers were unusually active and propitious. Paradoxically, All Hallows' Eve was also the night when young people performed magical rituals to determine their future marriage partners. The youth of the villages carried on with much merry-making and sensual revelry, but the older people took great care to safeguard their homes from the evil spirits, witches, and demons who had exceptional power that night.”
"The Satanic Bible" by Anton LaVey [1]

So have we fallen into the same trap as the Israelites of following pagan customs? I contend that we have indeed and that unbeknownst to many of us. Paganism in many ways pervades our culture but often in hidden form. Take for instance birthday celebrations. Nowhere in Scripture does Yahweh ever say to celebrate birthdays not even of that of Yahushua ha'Mashiach. Pagans however did celebrate birthdays such as the birthday of the sun god, Sol Invictus, during the Roman Saturnalia on the day December 25th near the winter solistice. The Catholic church of course took this celebration and changed it to celebrate Yahushua's birthday and thus followed in the way of the pagans. We know cultures influenced by paganism such as Egyptian, Roman and Germanic cultures celebrated birthdays. Birthday celebrations may have their origin in astrology with their placed importance on the placement of the sun and planets in relation to each other at the time of birth. [2] But if there's any doubt that birthday celebration are pagan, then just read the excerpt from the Satanic Bible above where we are told one's own birthday is above Walpurgisnacht/Beltane (on May 1st) and even Halloween/Samhain. So if you think it's wrong to celebrate Halloween because it's of the devil, then it's even more wrong to celebrate one's birthday for it is of even more importance to the devil.

Genesis 40:20-23 (King James Version)
20And it came to pass the third day, which was Pharaoh's birthday, that he made a feast unto all his servants: and he lifted up the head of the chief butler and of the chief baker among his servants.
21And he restored the chief butler unto his butlership again; and he gave the cup into Pharaoh's hand:
22But he hanged the chief baker: as Joseph had interpreted to them.
23Yet did not the chief butler remember Joseph, but forgat him.

Matthew 14:6-11 (King James Version)
6But when Herod's birthday was kept, the daughter of Herodias danced before them, and pleased Herod.
7Whereupon he promised with an oath to give her whatsoever she would ask.
8And she, being before instructed of her mother, said, Give me here John Baptist's head in a charger.
9And the king was sorry: nevertheless for the oath's sake, and them which sat with him at meat, he commanded it to be given her.
10And he sent, and beheaded John in the prison.
11And his head was brought in a charger, and given to the damsel: and she brought it to her mother.

Job 1:4-5 (Amplified Bible)
4His sons used to go and feast in the house of each on his day (birthday) in turn, and they invited their three sisters to eat and drink with them.(A)
5And when the days of their feasting were over, Job sent for them to purify and hallow them, and rose up early in the morning and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed or disowned God in their hearts. Thus did Job at all [such] times.

Job 1:13-22 (Amplified Bible)
13And there was a day when [Job's] sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house [on his birthday],
14And there came a messenger to Job and said, The oxen were plowing and the donkeys feeding beside them,
15And the Sabeans swooped down upon them and took away [the animals]. Indeed, they have slain the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you.
16While he was yet speaking, there came also another and said, The fire of God (lightning) has fallen from the heavens and has burned up the sheep and the servants and consumed them, and I alone have escaped to tell you.
17While he was yet speaking, there came also another and said, The Chaldeans divided into three bands and made a raid upon the camels and have taken them away, yes, and have slain the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you.
18While he was yet speaking, there came also another and said, Your sons and your daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house,
19And behold, there came a great [whirlwind] from the desert, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young people and they are dead, and I alone have escaped to tell you.
20Then Job arose and rent his robe and shaved his head and fell down upon the ground and worshiped
21And said, Naked (without possessions) came I [into this world] from my mother's womb, and naked (without possessions) shall I depart. The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away; blessed (praised and magnified in worship) be the name of the Lord!
22In all this Job sinned not nor charged God foolishly.

Job 3:1
AFTER THIS, Job opened his mouth and cursed his day (birthday).

Jeremiah 20:14-15 (Amplified Bible)
14Cursed be the day on which I was born! Let not the day on which my mother bore me be blessed!
15Cursed be the man who brought the tidings to my father, saying, A son is born to you!--making him very glad.

Consider also, that YHWH never commands us to celebrate birthdays in the Scriptures. However, we do see the Pharoah of Egypt, celebrating his own birthday and killing his cheif baker on that day. We see the Roman ruler, Herod, celebrating his birthday and after making an oath, murdering John the Baptist on the same day. We see Job making sacrificing for the sins of his children after they celebrated their birthdays. We see that Job's children were killed during one of their birthday celebrations. Maybe celebrating their birthdays placed a curse on them for following pagan practices. We see both Job and Jeremiah cursing the day of thier birth. And we never see a godly man celebrating his birthday but instead we the see rulers of Egypt and Rome, two nations influenced by the mystery religions of Babyon, celebrating their birthday and killing someone on their birthday.

Now some of you, having been desentisized to birthday celebrations after having celebrated your own birthday along with those of your friends and family your whole lives may say, 'but thats what it means to pagans but it doesn't mean that to me'. To be blunt, Yahweh didn't say 'it's OK if you are not offended by it' rather he makes it clear that it offends Him! Let's place our focus on pleasing Yahweh and not ourselves! Let's not lean on our own understanding but on the Word of Yahweh. Do not follow the way of the pagans! The same reasoning applies to tattoos: you may say 'but I'm not hurting anyone and I'm going to put a cross and 'jesus saves' with my tattoo'. It doesn't matter your intent or purpose, you are violating Torah, following the way of the pagans and displeasing Yahweh.

Some of you may protest 'but Jehovah Witnesses also don't celebrate birthdays'. OK, they got some things wrong but on this point, Torah backs them up since birthday celebrations are clearly pagan. Jehovah Witnesses also do not believe in blood transfusion possibly based on the command not to drink blood. I disagree with them on their ban on blood transfusions since drinking blood which goes into the stomach is different than injecting blood into the blood system. Furthermore, injecting blood into the blood system is not a pagan or occultic practice, however, drinking blood is. If you doubt this you might want to listen to the testimony of Bill Schnoebelen, an ex-vampire who came to Yahweh. Bill Schnoebelen was addicted to drinking human blood and his skin was even sensitive to sunlight though the part of vampires only dying with a stake to their heart is myth of course. He was headed down a disastrous path until a Christian woman prayed for him and through a miracle of Yahweh his addiction to drinking blood was broken. He even said he had a choice to become a werewolf (shapeshifter) or a vampire. I know this may be hard to believe but there are other ex-occultists who have given testimony to such things as shapeshifting. And even Peter in Clementine Homilies said the Watchers, who taught man magick and sorcery, were themselves able to shapeshift.

So how deep does the bunny rabbit hole go? Does it end with Halloween, Christmas, Easter and birthdays? No, it goes way deeper than that. Consider St. Valentine's Day. Yahweh never commanded that this day be celebrated. The Romans in ancient times celebrated Lupercalia on the eve of February 14 and February 15. It's been forgotten if the festival was for the god Faunus (the Roman Pan), Inuus or some other god. The festival involved sacrificing goats and a dog, then smearing the foreheads of two naked young noblemen with the blood and wiping it off. The priests would then flog the people around them with the skins of the sacrificed goats to give the women fertility. Legend has it that the bachelors would pick a woman's name from a big urn and that would be their romantic partner for the year. In 494 AD, Pope Gelasius made Febraury 15 the Purification of the Virgin Mary, once again usurping a pagan festival with a made-up non-Scriptural festival. Now there were serveral martyrs named Valentine so it's hard to be sure which Valentine was intended for St. Valentines Day but there was a priest named Valentine who married and/or helped Christians when it was a crime to do so and refused to give up his faith and was martyred under Claudius II on February 14th around 270 A.D.. In 496 A.D. Pope Gelasius set February 14th as a celebration of the martyrdom of St. Valentine. Was this a further attempt to find a substitute festival for Lupercalia just like All Saint's Day/Hallow's Eve was used to usurp the Druid Samhain and how Christmas was used to usurp the Roman Saturnalia? It's hard to be sure though it follows the pattern of substituting the revelry of pagan festivals with Catholic celebrations. What is quite clear to me is that the modern St. Valentine's Day celebration has little to do with the martyrdom of a saint and more in common with the fertility rites of Lupercalia.

Deuteronomy 4:2 (Amplified Bible)
2You shall not add to the word which I command you, neither shall you diminish it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 (Amplified Bible)
32Whatever I command you, be watchful to do it; you shall not add to it or diminish it.

Proverbs 30:5-6 (Amplified Bible)
5Every word of God is tried and purified; He is a shield to those who trust and take refuge in Him.(A)
6Add not to His words, lest He reprove you, and you be found a liar.

Revelation 22:18-19 (King James Version)
18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

The Roman Catholic Church thinks it has the authority to change the times and laws yet Yahweh is quite clear that we are not to add or take away from His Word. Yet the Catholic Church has repeatedly done so in changing the day of rest from the Sabbath day to Sunday, changing the day of holy convocation from the Sabbath to Sunday, replacing pagan festivals such as Saturnalia, Samhain and Lupercalia with Catholic ones like Christmas, Halloweeen and St. Valentines day respectively, and replacing Yahweh's festival of Passover with Easter. In so doing it has violated Yahweh's commands to not follow the way of the pagans and has added to Yahweh's word by adding festivals and taken from Yahweh's Word by eliminating the festivals of Yahweh. To this day many nations are influenced and follow the errors of Rome, including our nation and Catholics. And Protestants did not reform this error when they left their mother church and so they continue in it to this day. Man's propensity to add or take away from Yahweh's word seems inevitable given enough time. Even in traditional or non-Messianic Judaism we have Jews refusing to say or write the name of Yahweh though there is no command in Scripture against this. The command is to not use Yahweh's name in vain but we are allowed to say it or write it. And this tradition of man may have affected our modern Bibles which replace the name of Yahweh with 'LORD'. Another example in non-Messianic Judaism is the wearing of the skullcap/yarmulke/kipa. No where in Scripture does it say a man must wear a kipa, yet the Othodox Jews require that it be worn at all times during church service, the Conservative branch of Judaism says it must be worn during prayer and only the Reformed branch of Judaism gets it right in saying it is optional. Man's traditons are once again elevated to the status of Yahweh's Word.

There is much pagan symbology and traditions in culture that we are unaware of. Consider the Egyptian obelisks in St. Peters Square (what's a phallic symbol doing there?), the obelisk in London, the obelisk in Central Park of New York City, the obelisk-like Washington Monument in Washington D.C.. You may want to research occult symbology in the design of Washington D.C.. Consider the Druid festival Beltane on May 1st. May 1st is also known as May Day and used as a day to celebrate the Labor Movement. I can't tell you that it's not coincidence but on the other hand it may have been intentional. The Illuminati's birthday is said to be May 1, 1776 and I doubt that's a coincidence. You can see pyramid symbols and all seeing eyes all over in advertising. Paganism is far from dead, it's just submerged, hidden in plain sight. Let's be careful to stay clear of following in the ways of the pagans and adding to or taking away from the commands, ordinances and statutes of Yahweh.

[1] [link to www.vexen.co.uk]
[2] [link to www.thercg.org]
[3] [link to www.biblestudy.org]
[4] [link to www.history.com]
[5] [link to www.youtube.com]
[6] [link to www.youtube.com]
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/6/2009 5:58 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

I find it really interesting that Ashtar Command uses the name of a pagan goddess Ashtar, also known as Ashtoreth, who along with her cohort, Baal, were the false idols with demonic entities behind them that led Israel into idolatry and to it's fall.

I also find it interesting that Billy Meier who reputedly met with the Pliedians, met with a Pleidian woman named Semyaza, which is really close to the name of the leader of the Watchers who's name was Semyaze. The Watcher whose story is mentioned in the Book of Enoch landed on Mt. Hermon and mated with woman resulting in nephilim/giants whose spirits are nowadays known as evil spirits or demons. These same Watchers taught mankind black magick, astrology, astronomy, metallurgy, make-up among other things. They corrupted mankind and their introduction of evil and mixing of seeds (human with fallen angelic) led to the world-wide flood from which Noah escaped.

Billy Meiers also reputedly spoke with Quetzal, which comes awfully close to Queztalcoatl, the Aztec god, who apparently desired many human sacrifices. The Pleidians I believe are the Watchers of old, Eric von Doniken's "ancient space astronauts". They may even be the Annunaki, the gods of the ancient Sumerian civilization, who also mixed their genetics in cross-breeding experiments violating Yahweh's law that everything is to reproduce after their own kind. Every time I see an ancient advanced civilization such as the Incas, Mayans, Aztecs, Egyptions, Sumerians/Babylonians, I suspect that the Watchers interfered with the culture giving high technology but also being oppressive, sometimes demanding human sacrifice, inextricably linked with Mystery Babylon religions, the 12 gods of zodiac and astrology, pyramids, ziggurats and large stone buildings such as Stonehenge. Every culture they infest is inevitably destroyed because of their idolatry, sin, human sacrifice, evil oppression. Every last one of them.

So when the aliens come claiming to be Ascended Master, such as Buddha, Krishna, Yahshua, the Imam Mahdi understand that the destruction of this world is near. For the Sumerians did not say we heard of the Annunaki but rather that these were there gods and they intermingled. And when they built their Tower of Babel, Yahweh confused their language and dispersed them bringing that attempt of a world empire to an end. The Mayans similarly said Kulkucan was their god and the Aztecs said Quetzalooatl was their god and that he lived among them. (Interestingly, Quetzalcoatl is envisioned as a white man with a beard and white robe. Sounds like the Pleidian Quetzal to me.) So when these ancient pretender gods revisit us, and they will, be wary for the end is imminent. The archangel Michael will defeat Satan and his minions, and Satan and his gang will take refuge in earth, knowing that their time is short, the Great Tribulation will be around that time.
As before, it will happen again. Patterns are their for a reason - to learn the ryhme and rythym of life.
danhow
User ID: 748709
9/6/2009 7:12 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Prophecies of Thomas S. Gibson, Matthew Stephen, Tom Deckard, Dumitru Duduman, E. R. Lindsey and Chuck Youngbrandt (paranthetical comments by watchman):

Bird flu kills millions, national quarantine declared.
(False flag) terrorist attack hits 7 cities including New York City and Washington DC.
Economic collapse, dollar collapse, stock market collapse, high unemployment, food scarcity.
Riots and civil war in USA.
(North American Union with USA, Canada and Mexico, new Amero currency, new constitution, internet/free press/travel restricted, Homeland ID card or mark of the beast Homeland ID chip without which one cannot buy or sell, Christians, patriots, ex-military suspected as terrorists and interned or killed in FEMA concentration camps without trials. See Operation BlackJack.)
2 leaders in USA, 2 leaders in Europe and 2 leaders in Middle East are assasinated.
Bush Jr shot, Obama assasinated, Sarkozy assasinated.
WW3 starts by 2010.
US supports Israel in Middle East war (probably with Iran, Syria and Lebanon).
US defends South Korea in North Korean war.
US defends Taiwan in Chineese invasion.
Exactly one year before great California earthquake where everything west of San Andreas fault falls into ocean causing world-wide tsunamis three signs will occur simultaneously 1) greatest Autstralian earthquake 2) Mediterranean volcano erupts causing tidal waves and 3) mild earthquake in California cracking wall of city halls of LA and San Francisco.
Great New Madrid earthquake empties Lake Michigan into Midwest and flows into Gulf of Mexico. (America is divided physically as judgment for trying to divide Israel and Jerusalem with Palestinian state.)
37 days after New Madrid earthquake, Russian subs nuke California, NY, Florida and Las Vegas.
Russia invades US from east, China and Japan from west, and Mexico, Cuba, Nicaragua and others assist Russia/China/Japan in invasion.
70% of Americans die from earthquakes, tsunamis and war, USA occupied for 7 years after which USA wins back freedom with repentance of sins, godly leader, new invention and angelic help.
1/3 of humanity and 1/3 plants die from earthquakes, tsunamis and WW3.
The two witnesses, which are the church of Messiah and the man-child witness for 3.5 years in power and holiness after which the Syrian anti-christ puts them to death for not taking the mark of the beast. The two witnesses are raised to life after 3 days and many believe in Yahshua ha’Maschiach (aka Jesus Christ) because of the miracle.
Do not take mark of the beast or you will be judged by God severely and lose eternal life.
3.5 years later Yahshua returns to reign on earth as He is Lord of Lords and King of Kings

(Preparation: Repent of sins and accept Yahshua ha’Maschiach as Lord and Savior. For bird flu prepare by having 3 to 6 months food supply per person of long storing food such as freeze dried food. For dollar collapse, consider moving money out of US financial institutions, consider investing in commodities such as gold/silver bullion/coins, oil and grains and consider AVOIDING paper assets such as US dollar, currencies undergoing quantatative easing such as British pound, Japaneese Yen and Swiss franc, corporate and government bonds and stocks. To prepare for coming earthquakes and Russian nuking/invasion consider leaving to places of refuge or leaving America Babylon (Rev 18), store much food, medical supplies such as colloidal silver, oil of oregano, olive leaf extract, Jim Humble’s Miracle Mineral Supplement, Dr. Bob Beck’s blood electrifier, consider buying solar panels, ham radio, dehydrator to collect water, water purifier, etc.)
 Quoting: Watchman of Yahweh 718025


Now that is definatly a scare tactic if I've ever scene one.You had me actually thinking about some of these untill
you gave your preperation.There is no need for a savior.
Its whats inside you not whats on the outside.No need to folow a messiah or some kind of guru.Nobody can save you but yourself and the Christ Consciousness which anybody can attain.

Last Edited by danhow on 9/6/2009 at 7:15 AM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 476538
9/6/2009 7:29 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Prophecies of Thomas S. Gibson, Matthew Stephen, Tom Deckard, Dumitru Duduman, E. R. Lindsey and Chuck Youngbrandt (paranthetical comments by watchman):

Bird flu kills millions, national quarantine declared.
(False flag) terrorist attack hits 7 cities including New York City and Washington DC.
Economic collapse, dollar collapse, stock market collapse, high unemployment, food scarcity.
Riots and civil war in USA.
(North American Union with USA, Canada and Mexico, new Amero currency, new constitution, internet/free press/travel restricted, Homeland ID card or mark of the beast Homeland ID chip without which one cannot buy or sell, Christians, patriots, ex-military suspected as terrorists and interned or killed in FEMA concentration camps without trials. See Operation BlackJack.)
2 leaders in USA, 2 leaders in Europe and 2 leaders in Middle East are assasinated.
Bush Jr shot, Obama assasinated, Sarkozy assasinated.
WW3 starts by 2010.
US supports Israel in Middle East war (probably with Iran, Syria and Lebanon).
US defends South Korea in North Korean war.
US defends Taiwan in Chineese invasion.
Exactly one year before great California earthquake where everything west of San Andreas fault falls into ocean causing world-wide tsunamis three signs will occur simultaneously 1) greatest Autstralian earthquake 2) Mediterranean volcano erupts causing tidal waves and 3) mild earthquake in California cracking wall of city halls of LA and San Francisco.
Great New Madrid earthquake empties Lake Michigan into Midwest and flows into Gulf of Mexico. (America is divided physically as judgment for trying to divide Israel and Jerusalem with Palestinian state.)
37 days after New Madrid earthquake, Russian subs nuke California, NY, Florida and Las Vegas.
Russia invades US from east, China and Japan from west, and Mexico, Cuba, Nicaragua and others assist Russia/China/Japan in invasion.
70% of Americans die from earthquakes, tsunamis and war, USA occupied for 7 years after which USA wins back freedom with repentance of sins, godly leader, new invention and angelic help.
1/3 of humanity and 1/3 plants die from earthquakes, tsunamis and WW3.
The two witnesses, which are the church of Messiah and the man-child witness for 3.5 years in power and holiness after which the Syrian anti-christ puts them to death for not taking the mark of the beast. The two witnesses are raised to life after 3 days and many believe in Yahshua ha’Maschiach (aka Jesus Christ) because of the miracle.
Do not take mark of the beast or you will be judged by God severely and lose eternal life.
3.5 years later Yahshua returns to reign on earth as He is Lord of Lords and King of Kings

(Preparation: Repent of sins and accept Yahshua ha’Maschiach as Lord and Savior. For bird flu prepare by having 3 to 6 months food supply per person of long storing food such as freeze dried food. For dollar collapse, consider moving money out of US financial institutions, consider investing in commodities such as gold/silver bullion/coins, oil and grains and consider AVOIDING paper assets such as US dollar, currencies undergoing quantatative easing such as British pound, Japaneese Yen and Swiss franc, corporate and government bonds and stocks. To prepare for coming earthquakes and Russian nuking/invasion consider leaving to places of refuge or leaving America Babylon (Rev 18), store much food, medical supplies such as colloidal silver, oil of oregano, olive leaf extract, Jim Humble’s Miracle Mineral Supplement, Dr. Bob Beck’s blood electrifier, consider buying solar panels, ham radio, dehydrator to collect water, water purifier, etc.)
 Quoting: Watchman of Yahweh 718025

jerkit jerkit jerkit jerkit jerkit
danhow
User ID: 748709
9/6/2009 7:39 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

hmmmm lets see who Yaweh really is.

In pursuing an answer to this question and in studying the substance of the Old Testament prior to its corruption, one fact which becomes increasingly clear is that in English-language Bibles the definition ’Lord’ is used in a general context, but in earlier texts a positive distinction is drawn between ’Jehovah’ and ’the Lord’.

It has often been wondered why the biblical God of the Hebrews led them through trials and tribulations, floods and disasters, when (from time to time) he appears to have performed with a quite contrary and merciful personality. The answer is that, although now seemingly embraced as ’the One God’ by the Jewish and Christian churches, there was originally a distinct difference between the figures of Jehovah and the Lord. They were, in fact, quite separate deities. The god referred to as ’Jehovah’ was traditionally a storm god, a god of wrath and vengeance, whereas the god referred to as ’the Lord’ was a god of fertility and wisdom.

So, what was the name given to the Lord in the early writings? It was, quite simply, the prevailing Hebrew word for ’Lord’, and the word was ’Adon’. As for the apparent personal name of Jehovah, this was not used in the early days, and even the Bible tells that the God of Abraham was called ’El Shaddai’, which means ’Lofty Mountain’.

The apparent name ’Jehovah’ came from the original Hebrew stem YHWH, which meant ’I am that I am’ - said to be a statement made by God to Moses on Mount Sinai, hundreds of years after the time of Abraham. ’Jehovah’ was therefore not a name at all, and early texts refer simply to ’El Shaddai’ and to his opposing counterpart, ’Adon’.

To the Canaanites, these gods were respectively called ’El Elyon’ and ’Baal’ - which meant precisely the same things (’Lofty Mountain’ and ’Lord’).

In our modern Bibles, the definitions ’God’ and ’Lord’ are used and intermixed throughout, as if they were one and the same character, but originally they were not. One was a vengeful god (a people-hater), and the other was a social god (a people-supporter), and they each had wives, sons and daughters.

The old writings tell us that throughout the patriarchal era the Israelites endeavored to support Adon, the Lord, but at every turn El Shaddai (the storm god, Jehovah) retaliated with floods, tempests, famines and destruction. Even at the very last (around 600 BC), the Bible explains that Jerusalem was overthrown at Jehovah’s bidding and tens of thousands of Jews were taken into Babylonian captivity simply because their King (a descendant of King David) had erected altars in veneration of Baal, the Adon.

It was during the course of this captivity that the Israelites weakened and finally conceded. They decided to succumb to the ’God of Wrath’, and developed a new religion out of sheer fear of his retribution. It was at this time that the name of Jehovah first appeared - and this was only 500 years before the time of Jesus.

Subsequently, the Christian Church took Jehovah on board as well, calling him simply ’God’ - and all the hitherto social concepts of the Adon were totally discarded. The two religions were henceforth both faiths of fear. Even today, their followers are classified as ’God-fearing’.

So, where does that leave us? It leaves us knowing that within an overall pantheon of gods and goddesses (many of whom are actually named in the Bible), there were two predominant and opposing gods. In different cultures they have been known as ’El Elyon’ and ’Baal’; ’El Shaddai’ and ’Adon’; ’Arhiman’ and ’Mazda’; ’Jehovah’ and ’Lord’; ’God’ and ’Father’. But these styles are all titular; they are not personal names.

So who precisely were they? To find the answer we have to look no further than where these gods were actually operative, and the old Canaanite texts (discovered in Syria in the 1920s) tell us that their courts were in the Tigris-Euphrates valley in Mesopotamia, in the Sumerian Eden delta of the Persian Gulf.

But what did the ancient Sumerians call these two gods? What were their personal names? We can trace the Sumerian written records back to about 3700 BC, and they tell us that the gods in question were brothers. In Sumer, the storm god who eventually became known as Jehovah was called ’Enlil’ or ’Ilu-kur-gal’ (meaning ’Ruler of the Mountain’), and his brother, who became Adon, the Lord, was called ’Enki’. This name is really important to our story because ’Enki’ means ’Archetype’.
The texts inform us that:

it was Enlil who brought the Flood

it was Enlil who destroyed Ur and Babylon

it was Enlil who constantly opposed the education and enlightenment of humankind

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

Last Edited by danhow on 9/6/2009 at 7:39 AM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 739386
9/6/2009 8:11 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

hf
 Quoting: Fortress

bump
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/6/2009 8:37 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Hi Danhow,

I'm not trying to scare anyone. I simply collected prophecies from people who stated they were prophets or had received messages from Yahweh/Yahshua through His Holy Spirit. Also, taken together, the prophecies had to reinforce each other and be internally consistent. So I did not take prophecies or predictions from Nostradamus, remote viewers, channelers or New Agers because I was only interested in what Yahshua had to say to His church. Secondly, the prophecies had to not contradict each other,otherwise, I would be including one that is false. If you go through all the prophecies I've included you can see they are internally consistent and supportive of one another. Then I made a summary. You can make your own if you don't like mine. I didn't create these prophecies out of my own imagination, but simply found what was out there and try to put the pieces of the prophetic puzzle together with a bit of discernment. The events really are rather scary but dismissing them for this reason is a bit premature. I am preparing for the national quarantine by storing food and for the dollar collapse by having gold and silver. As for the rest of it, I am seeing if the signs come and the events unfold as layed out. They are so consistent that I believe they are from Yahweh warning us of the judgment on America. Now if you don't believe in Yahweh then I can understand you doubting these prophecies.

As for the name of Yahweh, I think you are trying to apply Sumerian mystery religion which came from the Annunaki and their pantheon of gods to Yahweh. These are opposing religions as opposed to the Greek, Roman, Sumerian/Babylonian, Egyptian, Scandinavian pantheons which are really identical with different names - mystery Babylon religion. In the book of Jasher we see that Abraham confronted his father and Nimrod for following the twelve god pantheon of the Sumerians/Babylonians which was based on the zodiac and astrology which the antedulivian Watchers had started and which the Annunaki watchers helped continue under Nimrod. Abraham was a monotheist believer in Yahweh, not a polythiest believer in the mystery religion pantheon so let's not confuse the two.

Secondly, Yahweh is the name of the one true Elohim (God) for he tells us himself that that is His name, unlike Adonai meaning lord or Elohim meaning God which are more like titles.

Exodus 3:15 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)
15 God also said to Moses, "Say this to the Israelites: Yahweh, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever; (A) this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.

Yahweh revealed himself to Abraham as El Shaddai and to Moses as Yahweh. Yahweh is the God of Abraham, although Abraham only knew him as El Shaddai. Adonai is a more generic title for 'lord' so it's not unusual that other religions would call some of their gods 'lord' such as beelzebub means 'lord of the flies'. But that Baal and Yahweh were different gods is apparent in their commands to their followers for the followers worshipped each god according the their gods commands. When Elijah confronts the priests of Baal to see which god is the true god, the priests of Baal cut themselves, something Elijah does not do. So just because Adonai is based on Adon meaning 'lord' and Baal means lord, does not make the Hebrew Adonai as referring to Baal. How about just accepting that each religion uses the word 'lord' in their language to refer to their god?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 741467
9/6/2009 8:43 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Hebrew year 5770 ...

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Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/6/2009 8:50 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Forgetting the Name of God

ABSTRACT
The name of God is YHVH, possibly pronounced like "Yahweh". This is the name God is to be remembered by forever. Most modern Bibles do not use the correct name of God but instead they mistranslate "YHVH" to "the LORD" which is a title. So the Christian church does not exalt the name of YHVH or call upon the name of YHVH because it has forgotten the name of YHVH. Remember the name of YHVH! Exalt the name of YHVH! Call upon the name of YHVH!

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Exodus 3:15 (New International Version)
15 God also said to Moses, "Say to the Israelites, 'The LORD, [a] the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.' This is my name forever, the name by which I am to be remembered from generation to generation.

Exodus 3:15 (New American Standard Bible)
15God, furthermore, said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, '(A)The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you ' This is My name forever, and this is My (B)memorial-name to all generations.

Exodus 3:15 (King James Version)
15And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

Exodus 3:15 (Young's Literal Translation)
15And God saith again unto Moses, `Thus dost thou say unto the sons of Israel, Jehovah, God of your fathers, God of Abraham, God of Isaac, and God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you; this [is] My name -- to the age, and this My memorial, to generation -- generation.

Exodus 3:15 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)
15 God also said to Moses, "Say this to the Israelites: Yahweh, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever; (A) this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.


What is the name of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? If you have an NIV, NASB or even King James Bible you would likely answer that His name is "LORD", after all that's what the verse says. If you read the Young's Literal translation Bible you might say "Jehovah" is His name. If you have a Holman Christian Standard Bible you might say "Yahweh" is his name. We know they all can't be right. But are any of them correct?

Does it matter if we call God by His name? Well if your name is Joe and I called you Pete or Steve and I did this consistently and purposefully, you'd probably take it as a sign of disrespect. So if you don't like it when people don't call you by your correct name, shouldn't we be careful to call God by His proper name? Yet many, if not most Christians don't call God by His name. Why? Probably because they do not know His name. And even if they do know His name, they do not take it to heart that this is His name forever by which He is to be remembered.

So what is God's name? In Hebrew, God's name is the four Hebrew letters Yod-Hei-Vav-Hei (YHVH). In Hebrew there are no vowels yet one would need to know the vowels to pronounce it correctly. Some think it is pronounced "Yahweh", others "Yahuweh" and there are other possibilities. In the end, through the generations, we are no longer sure of the exact pronounciation of God's name.

So how did it come to be that much of the church has forgotten His name and does not call Him by His name. To a large degree, I believe it's because the most popular Bibles such as the NIV, NASB and even KJV do not properly translate His name. His name is not LORD but YHVH. And pastors and teachers have fallen into the same trap, not teaching the congregation the name of God. Perhaps this is a carryover from Jewish tradition where God's name is not written as is but is slightly altered and His name is not often pronounced.

Deuteronomy 12:3-4 (King James Version)
3And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.
4Ye shall not do so unto the LORD your God.

Some Jewish rabbis have inferred from Deuteronomy 12:3-4 that God's name should not be defaced, so they taught that to prevent this the name of God, YHVH, should not be written as is, but be slightly altered. That way, if the slightly altered name is defaced, then technically, it is not God's name that has been defaced. This is similar to someone who gets drunk when he goes to a bar so he makes a human rule that he should not go into bars. This is a human teaching which becomes the traditions of men. YHVH's word says "And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery; but ever be filled and stimulated with the [Holy] Spirit." (Ephesians 5:18) but His word does not say we cannot enter a bar. And thus we see the start of Jewish tradition where God's name is not written.

Leviticus 24:16 (King James Version)
16And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.

During the time of the Talmud, some Jewish rabbis taught that anyone who pronounced the name of YHVH would not enter into the world to come. Maybe some didn't want to use the name of God, YHVH, because if they misuse His name, they would be guilty of breaking the 3rd of YHVH's ten commandments. Also, the penalty for blaspheming the name of the Lord was being stoned to death. So I'm sure some avoided using God's name to avoid blaspheming His name accidently. Yet again, this is the tradition of men and not the word of God.

Exodus 20:7 (Amplified Bible)
7You shall not use or repeat the name of the Lord your God in vain [that is, lightly or frivolously, in false affirmations or profanely]; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

God commands us not to use His name in vain, that is to take it lightly or make false claims in His name. However, YHVH does not say we are not to write or say His name. Teachings that prohibit the writing or pronounciation of His name are based on human teaching and the traditions of men and not the word of God.

But is there anything wrong with following human teaching or human traditions? There is if by following human teachings or traditions you violate or circumvent the commands of YHVH. Read what Yahshuah Ha'Mashiach (aka Jesus Christ) has to say on the matter.

Matthew 15:2-8 (Amplified Bible)
2Why do Your disciples transgress and violate the rules handed down by the elders of the past? For they do not practice [ceremonially] washing their hands before they eat.
3He replied to them, And why also do you transgress and violate the commandment of God for the sake of the rules handed down to you by your forefathers (the elders)?
4For God commanded, Honor your father and your mother, and, He who curses or reviles or speaks evil of or abuses or treats improperly his father or mother, let him surely come to his end by death.(A)
5But you say, If anyone tells his father or mother, What you would have gained from me [that is, the money and whatever I have that might be used for helping you] is already dedicated as a gift to God, then he is exempt and no longer under obligation to honor and help his father or his mother.
6So for the sake of your tradition (the rules handed down by your forefathers), you have set aside the Word of God [depriving it of force and authority and making it of no effect].
7You pretenders (hypocrites)! Admirably and truly did Isaiah prophesy of you when he said:
8These people draw near Me with their mouths and honor Me with their lips, but their hearts hold off and are far away from Me.

So clearly, it's wrong to follow human traditions if it violates God's word. It's like the guy who gets drunk when he goes to bars and made a rule for himself not to enter into bars. If he sees someone injured in a bar and refuses to render assistance because of his rule not to enter bars, then he sins against YHVH. For YHVH has not said "do not enter bars or taverns" but He has said "Love your neighbor as yourself". But what command is being violated if we don't use His name, YHVH, and instead use general titles such as Lord and God for His name?


Exodus 9:16 (King James Version)
16And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.

Exodus 3:15
God also said to Moses, "Say this to the Israelites: YHVH, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever; (A) this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.

Isaiah 42:8
I am YHVH: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Jeremiah 16:21
Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is YHVH.

Psalm 44:20-21 (King James Version)
20If we have forgotten the name of our God, or stretched out our hands to a strange god;
21Shall not God search this out? for he knoweth the secrets of the heart.

Jeremiah 23:26-27 (King James Version)
26How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;
27Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.

Jeremiah 3:17
17At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of YHVH; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of YHVH, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Isaiah 12:4
4And in that day shall ye say, Praise YHVH, call upon his name, declare his doings among the people, make mention that his name is exalted.


The name of God, YHVH (or as some translate it YHWH) occurs over 6,800 times in the tenakh (i.e. Old Testament) yet you will not find YHVH, nor YHWH and not even Yahweh in most of today's modern Bibles. Imagine writing a thousand page book on George Wahsington and never mentioning his name, but just referring to him as the first president of the United States. This simply would not make it past the editor. Yet that's exactly what most modern Bibles, including the most popular NIV and NASB Bibles, have done to God! His name is not "the LORD"! That is a title just like "president of the United States" is a title. YHVH says that YHVH is the name that He is to be remembered by forever, for all generations. Have you ever called upon the name of "the LORD"? "the LORD" is not YHVH's name. Why haven't you been calling on YHVH? His name, YHVH, is to be exalted. We are to call on the name of YHVH. But how can you exalt the name of YHVH if you don't know His name is YHVH? And how are you to call on the name of YHVH if you don't know YHVH is His name? YHVH is against those that would have you forget His name. Forgetting the name of YHVH is associated with idolatry in many Bible passages.

It saddens me that this is the state of the church in general. Thousands upon thousands of people congregate every week to worship a god whose name they do not know. And of those that do know his name many do not call upon His name or exalt His name. Do you think YHVH doesn't know the church in general has forgotten His name? Do you think anything is hidden from YHVH? Do you think YHVH has not sent prophets and watchman to warn the church before? Do you think the church listened? Can you read through your Bible from beginning to end, cover to cover, and never read the name of YHVH, even though it occurs more than 6,800 times? If you have been deceived about the name of YHVH, what else have you been deceived about? In the end, you don't know what you don't know.

Pray for discernment and guidance in these times of great deception. Call upon the name of YHVH. Exalt the name of YHVH. Do not put your trust in any man, not me, not your pastor nor your teachers, nor tv evangelists, not the president - trust no one, but YHVH and His word. It is because Christians have placed their faith in man, and not in YHVH and His word that they have been deceived.


Interesting links:
[link to www.jewfaq.org]
[link to youtube.com]
danhow
User ID: 748709
9/6/2009 9:40 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Hi Danhow,

I'm not trying to scare anyone. I simply collected prophecies from people who stated they were prophets or had received messages from Yahweh/Yahshua through His Holy Spirit. Also, taken together, the prophecies had to reinforce each other and be internally consistent. So I did not take prophecies or predictions from Nostradamus, remote viewers, channelers or New Agers because I was only interested in what Yahshua had to say to His church. Secondly, the prophecies had to not contradict each other,otherwise, I would be including one that is false. If you go through all the prophecies I've included you can see they are internally consistent and supportive of one another. Then I made a summary. You can make your own if you don't like mine. I didn't create these prophecies out of my own imagination, but simply found what was out there and try to put the pieces of the prophetic puzzle together with a bit of discernment. The events really are rather scary but dismissing them for this reason is a bit premature. I am preparing for the national quarantine by storing food and for the dollar collapse by having gold and silver. As for the rest of it, I am seeing if the signs come and the events unfold as layed out. They are so consistent that I believe they are from Yahweh warning us of the judgment on America. Now if you don't believe in Yahweh then I can understand you doubting these prophecies.

As for the name of Yahweh, I think you are trying to apply Sumerian mystery religion which came from the Annunaki and their pantheon of gods to Yahweh. These are opposing religions as opposed to the Greek, Roman, Sumerian/Babylonian, Egyptian, Scandinavian pantheons which are really identical with different names - mystery Babylon religion. In the book of Jasher we see that Abraham confronted his father and Nimrod for following the twelve god pantheon of the Sumerians/Babylonians which was based on the zodiac and astrology which the antedulivian Watchers had started and which the Annunaki watchers helped continue under Nimrod. Abraham was a monotheist believer in Yahweh, not a polythiest believer in the mystery religion pantheon so let's not confuse the two.

Secondly, Yahweh is the name of the one true Elohim (God) for he tells us himself that that is His name, unlike Adonai meaning lord or Elohim meaning God which are more like titles.

Exodus 3:15 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)
15 God also said to Moses, "Say this to the Israelites: Yahweh, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever; (A) this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.

Yahweh revealed himself to Abraham as El Shaddai and to Moses as Yahweh. Yahweh is the God of Abraham, although Abraham only knew him as El Shaddai. Adonai is a more generic title for 'lord' so it's not unusual that other religions would call some of their gods 'lord' such as beelzebub means 'lord of the flies'. But that Baal and Yahweh were different gods is apparent in their commands to their followers for the followers worshipped each god according the their gods commands. When Elijah confronts the priests of Baal to see which god is the true god, the priests of Baal cut themselves, something Elijah does not do. So just because Adonai is based on Adon meaning 'lord' and Baal means lord, does not make the Hebrew Adonai as referring to Baal. How about just accepting that each religion uses the word 'lord' in their language to refer to their god?
 Quoting: Watchman of Yahweh 762096


I suggest you dig a bit deeper.

Much of the information in the Old Testament came from various schools of both the Middle East and also from India and Egypt, with various legends and stories rewritten and retranslated from earlier writings or from other cultural and religious teachings or other sources, and rewritten specifically for the Hebrew teachings and their use.

Lord was merely a title in modern terms would be called the commander or captain of the spaceship.
Read the Ten Commandments, then read on for several chapters, and you will notice that whereas you are informed that the Lord commanded that: "thou shalt not kill", within a few verses later, the Lord is also explaining that if a man does not behave in a certain manner, he shall be killed and other actions shall be taken against his property, and in some cases, against his family.

There were other conflicting rules throughout the approximately one hundred various laws which were given to the Hebrews through the various commandments and these, in many cases, conflicted with the Ten Commandments.
This action of creating conflicting laws was particularly designed to make sure that none of the followers would be able to follow the laws and that all would feel guilty and at odds with their Lord

"Jehovah" -- that being the English translation of the Hebrew name JHVH which, in fact, was never spoken in Hebrew
JHVH being spelled yod-he-vau-heh of the Hebrews referring, in fact, to the fire, earth, air and water principles or radiance, stability, vibration and magnetism principles which are the four universal qualities that create matter. This name JHVH or yod-he-vau-heh which has been translated into English as Jehovah was not, in fact, the name of these entities or lords which were guiding the Hebrews. This yod-he-vau-heh as the name meaning "the creating principles of the universe"' --- this as a code for the building block of universal creative forces

The act of calling themselves yod-he-vau-heh does not necessarily mean that these beings are in fact the universal creator, but rather this may be likened unto a tribe which named itself after the universal creator, and the tribe yod-he-vau-heh or Jehovah being a reflection name from the universal creator or creative principle.

In reading the Old Testament following the Ten Commandments, entities will notice several conflicting expressions or commands, whereby the Lord, in one breath, commands that entities do this, and in another verse, commands that just the opposite behavior is appropriate
this inconsistency in the application of the law made Jehovah, one who could make laws and break laws, to be seen as an all-powerful God who was not even bound by his own word, by his own law. The God who says 'Thou shalt not kill', yet Himself slays the enemies of his people or demands a blood sacrifice of the first born,
this as an action which was seen by these followers as a God of vengeance, power, and one who was above his own law; therefore to be feared
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 739386
9/6/2009 11:28 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

scaremonger
 Quoting: DopeBoyFresh

God's Judgement has come upon the world in the past and will certainly come again in the future. If people would repent of sin it would not happen at all...... but it is too late now. Judgement is upon us.
Messenger
User ID: 137750
9/6/2009 1:35 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

THANK YOU.

I have saved all of these prophecies

GOD BLESS you for taking time to post them.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 723304
9/6/2009 1:39 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

9/11 changed the timeline virtually no prophecy has been fulfilled in the time since I agree with Isaac Newton and Nostradamus things will probably start up again about 2040-60,2012 is a red herring,be careful with dates there is old testament prophecy 2600 years old that hasn't happened yet.

The vision I was given after 9/11 was of 7 airliners with suitcase nukes set on altimeters for airblasts and maximum mess in 7 cities thankfully this has not happened as yet.
 Quoting: khnum 455005



Yeah, but there are over 2000 prophecies in the Bible that have happened. The 2001st one will happen.
Once4All
User ID: 739386
9/6/2009 2:10 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Watchman: Isn't it amazing how God puts the truth right in front of everyone but so many still mock and walk away. I believe the dollar could devalue at any time now and gold - i believe - will soon advance to levels never seen. Thank you for taking the time to manage this thread. May the Lord continue to bless you for all your efforts. Peace!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 739386
9/6/2009 2:59 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Watchman: Isn't it amazing how God puts the truth right in front of everyone but so many still mock and walk away. I believe the dollar could devalue at any time now and gold - i believe - will soon advance to levels never seen. Thank you for taking the time to manage this thread. May the Lord continue to bless you for all your efforts. Peace!
 Quoting: Once4All 739386

bump FOR TRUTH!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 762096
9/6/2009 4:38 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

9/11 changed the timeline virtually no prophecy has been fulfilled in the time since I agree with Isaac Newton and Nostradamus things will probably start up again about 2040-60,2012 is a red herring,be careful with dates there is old testament prophecy 2600 years old that hasn't happened yet.

The vision I was given after 9/11 was of 7 airliners with suitcase nukes set on altimeters for airblasts and maximum mess in 7 cities thankfully this has not happened as yet.



Yeah, but there are over 2000 prophecies in the Bible that have happened. The 2001st one will happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 723304


Most of the prophecies I've posted are about the fall of Babylon America which is given in Revelations 18. The time for this may be 2010-2012 since Thomas Gibson has WW3 starting by 2010, Matthew Stephen has the demise of America by 2012 and Amos Scagg has the ultra rich being broke by Feb 14, 2011 and Chuck Youngbrandt gives us a 3 year scenario where at the end America is burned by Russian sub's nuclear missiles and invaded by Russia, China and others.

Now if Prophet Tom Deckard leads us out of America on an exodus back to Israel and we are about 40 years in the desert just like the original exodus, that would take us to 2052, which is about your timeframe. So I think you might be right. Just cause America gets nuked does not start the great tribulation.
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/6/2009 4:50 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Watchman: Isn't it amazing how God puts the truth right in front of everyone but so many still mock and walk away. I believe the dollar could devalue at any time now and gold - i believe - will soon advance to levels never seen. Thank you for taking the time to manage this thread. May the Lord continue to bless you for all your efforts. Peace!
 Quoting: Once4All 739386


Thank you. There is a deep level of spiritual blindness. It's sad to see. I would have hoped to see what Jonah saw, national repentance but it's not going to happen. Only Noah and his family were saved from the flood despite that Noah and Methuselah warned for 120 years. (that's in the Book of Jasher which I highly recommend. I also highly recommend Book of Enoch, Book of Jubilees, Clementine Homilies.) Only lot and his two daughters were spared from Sodom and Gomorrah. Chuck Youngbrand has 70% of Americans dyeing, which is about 210 million out of 300 million at todays' population while Matthew Stephen has 250 million American dying from the war, terror, famine, violence, natural disasters etc.

I want to be honest and say that researching this information is really depressing at times, especially when some of the prophecies hint that 2010-2012 is a key time period. Could it really happen so quickly? Intellectually I know it can just like it happened in Nagasaki and Hiroshima yet it's so foreign to my life experience that's its difficult to accept. I understand if people have trouble believing it because I do to. But I'm taking the few preparations like storing food and buying gold and silver and waiting for other signs to confirm the scenario. I'm also looking to leave the country possibly to South America if it starts to play out. I hope to join Prophet Tom Deckard when he starts the exodus.

Once4All, I also strongly recommend you look into Prophet Tom Deckard and test the spirits to see if he is of Yahweh because he says Yahweh appointed him to lead the exodus back to Israel just like Moses was appointed. So far my discernment tells me he's the real deal but you can't take my word for it because each of us has to test the spirits to see if they are of Yahweh.
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/6/2009 4:59 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Oh, I forgot to mention about the dollar collapse. Hidden Hand, the moniker used by an Illuminati insider who posted on GLP said the devaluation or new currency (Amero?) would happen by February 2010. The Illuminati have a ethical code where they have to say what they are going to do so that is what Hidden Hand was doing. However, it didn't happen in that timeframe. Matthew Stephens says Yahweh gave us a 6 month grace period which I know I personally needed to get ready so I'm thankful for it. That may be why the web bots "summer of hell" may be delayed though often their language is in the extreme though do are correct oftentimes but no always.

The web bot has the dollar falling invalue from Nov of 2009 to Nov 2010 with much of the decline happening by March 2010. This is consistent with Amos Scagg's prophecy of the ultra rich being broke by Feb 14, 2011. The web bot has silver going upto a high of about $600 to $800/oz and I believe the gold gets to about $5,000/oz. Mike Maloney has gold going to $15,000/oz to make up for all the money printing. So yes, I do think the devaluation is near. We have about $500 Trillion to 1 Quadrillion in derivatives and I believe China has said some Chineese companies don't have to pay up on their losing bets. This could bring the whole house of cards down. The world GDP is about $64 trillion. US GDP is about $15 Trillion. The derivitive bubble is about $500 trillion, so it' around 10 years of global output. When that bubble burts watch out below!!!!!!
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/6/2009 5:07 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Also, Lindsey Wiliams has been warning about the coming financial collapse in the USA, specifically the USA. Lindsey Williams worked as a missionary and pastor on the Alaskan pipelines. He did such a good job he was invited to the executive council where he rubbed shoulders with the big wigs of the oil industry. He was told in June of 2008 that oil would go from about $140/bbl to $50/bbl. People thought he was crazy but by november 2008 oil hit $50. So his oil executive source was correct on that one and I expect we will see the dollar collapse soon. The bilderbergers have decided on a short severe depression. A depression results from too much debt. Only way to make a depression shorter is by defaulting on debt and/or devaluing the currency so assets become more valuable relative to the debt owed on them. So don't be surprised if USA defaults on it's debt and/or devalues the dollar. What's interesting is if the devalution is of all fiat currencies like in 80's movie Rollover were all fiat currencies become worthless. Of course it is possible we first get a dollar collapse and later all fiat currencies collapse. Just remember that at one point it may be good to convert silver and gold into long storing food, farming supplies, water filters, medical supplies, guns and ammo for hunting and protection, seeds, farm animals ...
Once4All
User ID: 739386
9/6/2009 5:30 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Well, the collapse has begun. Nothing will stop it now. Everyone here at glp has been sufficiently warned, imo!
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/6/2009 5:32 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Sorry for all the post but more keeps coming to mind. Sarkozy has told Iran they better negotiate by September before the G8 meeting or there might be consequences. Obama I believe has given until October for Iran to negotiate. The web bot is pointing to Israel attacking Iran around the October 26, 2009 timeframe and it being a bloody war. Israel has rights to fly over Saudi Arabia to attack Iran and the Iraqi Kurds have also allowed use of their land so thats another vector of attack.

Also, Matthew Stephens has said the stock market will fall this Fall of 2009 so you may want to get out of the stock market, lock in some profits or maybe put stops in place.

Operation BlackJack hints at a false flag terrorist attack where US cities get nuked as a way for the USA to default on its debt and blame the terrorism instead of acknowledging fiscal incompetence. It could also be used to initiate attacks on Iran and Syria if they are blamed for it. This terrorist nuking of cities is in the prophecies. Matthew Stephen has NY city, Washington DC and LA getting hit which is also in the Operation BlackJack scenario.

Also, we may have many deaths with the swine flu especially after the vaccinations. If we get a national quarantine then businesses, schools would shut down and the economy would go down, stock market would close and re-open much much lower later on. I don't recommend taking the vaccine because it has the dangerous adjuvant squalene. Squalene is found in the joints naturally and if the body develops anti-bodies to the squalene, then the body may end up attacking the squalene in the joints and in result in problems. In adddtion to this many vaccines have thimerosol which has mercury. Mercury in vaccines is suspected as being the cause of why many vaccinated children get autism. Also Baxter International put the real bird flu in seasonal flu vaccines!!!! Unbelievable!! The are also making swine flu vaccine so who knows what they will put in the vaccine. The may put live swine flu virus in it and as people shed the virus the will infect others. In the 70's more people died from the swine flu vaccinations than from the swine flu.
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/7/2009 1:49 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

9/11 changed the timeline virtually no prophecy has been fulfilled in the time since I agree with Isaac Newton and Nostradamus things will probably start up again about 2040-60,2012 is a red herring,be careful with dates there is old testament prophecy 2600 years old that hasn't happened yet.

The vision I was given after 9/11 was of 7 airliners with suitcase nukes set on altimeters for airblasts and maximum mess in 7 cities thankfully this has not happened as yet.
 Quoting: khnum 455005


The article below talks about the scenario khnum gave about suitcase nukes in airplanes above 7 cities. It also lends credibility to my thoughts that every first year of a president we get hit with terrorism: Clinton first year 1993 we get WTC attack; Bush's first year we get 9/11 on 2001 and so we are due for a terrorist event in 2009, the first year for Obama's presidency. This may start Operation Blackjack!

Article quoted from:
[link to www.deseretnews.com]


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Earlier this year, quite by happenstance, I read a book written by Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter James B. Stewart.

"Heart of a Soldier" tells the story of two men who, well before it happened, foretold not only of the terrorist attack of 9/11 but also the 1993 bombing in the World Trade Center parking garage that preceded it.

One of the men, Rick Rescorla, was chief of security for Morgan Stanley with an office in the World Trade Center. He died on 9/11, but not before he shepherded all but six of Morgan Stanley's 2,700 employees to safety because of a well-prepared and well-executed evacuation plan. He'd have made it out, too, had he not gone back in the building looking for those six.

The other man, Daniel J. Hill, is still alive.

With another Sept. 11 approaching I wanted to talk to The Man Who Predicted 9/11.

Although the primary focus in Stewart's book is on Rescorla — a bona fide hero for his actions on 9/11 — I found Hill to be an even more fascinating character.

Story continues below


It was Hill who converted to Islam as a young U.S. Army paratrooper stationed in Beirut in 1958. It was Hill who learned fluent Arabic. It was Hill who joined the Mujahedeen Freedom Fighters in Afghanistan and fought the Soviet invasion there in the 1980s. It was Hill who personally met Osama bin Laden. It was Hill who used information from Islamic extremists to warn Rescorla that terrorists would use the underground parking garage for a car bomb attack on the World Trade Center. It was Hill who asked the U.S. government to assist him in an assassination attempt on bin Laden in 1998 (the request was rejected). And it was Hill who warned the FBI just weeks before Sept. 11, 2001, that his Mideast contacts told him "something big" was about to happen in the United States, in New York, Washington, D.C., or Philadelphia — maybe all three.

Through the Internet I managed to contact Hill at his home in Florida. He's 71 now. I asked him if his reputation as a terrorism prognosticator without parallel has changed his life much.

"Oh, that blew over pretty fast," he said. "Most of the people even in my hometown don't know any of that stuff."

He didn't want to talk about the past. He wanted to talk about the future.

The very near future.

The man who predicted 9/11 is worried that its sequel is imminent.

"Muslims that I talk to say things like, 'America thinks they're safe now. They've forgotten about 9/11. But watch, Daniel. Stay near your TV. It's going to be bigger than 9/11,' " he said.

Hill said the next terrorist attack will involve suitcase nuclear bombs that will be detonated in small, low-flying two-seater private airplanes manned by men hanging onto the belief that, like the 9/11 hijackers, they are about to die as martyrs and enter paradise.

He is not alone in suggesting such a scenario. A 2007 book, "The Day of Islam," spells out the details, as do any number of Internet sites about a plot called "American Hiroshima."

The nukes, he said, will be detonated over New York, Washington, D.C., Chicago, Miami, Houston, Las Vegas and Los Angeles.

I asked Hill, "Why now?"

"Eight years from 1993 to 2001, eight years from that 9/11 to this 9/11," he said. "Symbolism. They're big on symbolism.""Ramadan started two weeks ago Saturday," he said, referring to the Muslim holy month of fasting. "It always hits around Ramadan."

Eight years ago, Hill predicted the attack would come on Oct. 16 — almost in the middle of that year's Ramadan (the timing of Ramadan varies from year to year). He was about a month off.

"I don't know the second, hour or day. I just know they have the means, will, motivation and desire to do it," he said, noting that it's believed that years ago the suitcase nukes, acquired from former USSR operatives, were smuggled into America across the Mexican border.

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Hill said he has warned the FBI, the CIA and others in government. For the past two years, he's sent out proposals for a book on the subject. All he's gotten back are rejections.

"To most people, I am a deviant personality," he said.

But there's no arguing his credentials.

"I'm a Muslim," he says. "I'm a special ops expert, I'm a terrorist and I've lived among Muslims. I fought the Russians with the same guys we're now fighting in Afghanistan. I met Osama. I volunteered to assassinate him. I know (the enemy) so well because I've worked, slept and prayed alongside them for years. I've become one of them. I know their nature, I know their culture, I know how they think. I can quote the Koran like a Southern Baptist minister can quote the New Testament. I know these are people who do not tire, who do not quit. There are odds this won't happen, but they aren't big odds."

"I hope you're wrong," I told him.

"Yeah. I hope so, too," he said.
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Anonymous Coward
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9/7/2009 6:07 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Sorry for all the post but more keeps coming to mind. Sarkozy has told Iran they better negotiate by September before the G8 meeting or there might be consequences. Obama I believe has given until October for Iran to negotiate. The web bot is pointing to Israel attacking Iran around the October 26, 2009 timeframe and it being a bloody war. Israel has rights to fly over Saudi Arabia to attack Iran and the Iraqi Kurds have also allowed use of their land so thats another vector of attack.

Also, Matthew Stephens has said the stock market will fall this Fall of 2009 so you may want to get out of the stock market, lock in some profits or maybe put stops in place.

Operation BlackJack hints at a false flag terrorist attack where US cities get nuked as a way for the USA to default on its debt and blame the terrorism instead of acknowledging fiscal incompetence. It could also be used to initiate attacks on Iran and Syria if they are blamed for it. This terrorist nuking of cities is in the prophecies. Matthew Stephen has NY city, Washington DC and LA getting hit which is also in the Operation BlackJack scenario.

Also, we may have many deaths with the swine flu especially after the vaccinations. If we get a national quarantine then businesses, schools would shut down and the economy would go down, stock market would close and re-open much much lower later on. I don't recommend taking the vaccine because it has the dangerous adjuvant squalene. Squalene is found in the joints naturally and if the body develops anti-bodies to the squalene, then the body may end up attacking the squalene in the joints and in result in problems. In adddtion to this many vaccines have thimerosol which has mercury. Mercury in vaccines is suspected as being the cause of why many vaccinated children get autism. Also Baxter International put the real bird flu in seasonal flu vaccines!!!! Unbelievable!! The are also making swine flu vaccine so who knows what they will put in the vaccine. The may put live swine flu virus in it and as people shed the virus the will infect others. In the 70's more people died from the swine flu vaccinations than from the swine flu.
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I bought some gold and silver mining stocks. Have been investing in all this since 1999. My stops are set!!! Thanks again!
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9/7/2009 6:14 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Not on MY watch you don't! :(
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Ditto

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9/8/2009 4:08 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Wanted to add that Amos Scaggs gives the prophecy below.

Israel will go into a full scale war between September 1st and November 1st.
I don’t know the year.


So if the Israel attack on Iran happens on October 26 of this year, it will also fulfill Amos Scaggs prophecy. I'm flexible, so if it doesn't happen this year it can still happen next year, though clearly there are signs that it will happen this year. Again, Thomas Gibson says the war will come upon us by 2010 and I think our involvement in the Israel vs Iran war is the start of WW3 unless North Korea invasion of South Korea comes first.

Also wanted to add that Prophet Tom Deckards prophecy that a bird flu will kill millions and lead to a national quarantine can be fulfilled by this H1N1 swine flu because this swine flu is really two swine flus, THE BIRD FLU and a human flu. Since the H1N1 swine flu contains bird flu, this swine flu could fulfill the prophecy.

Also, a national quarantine or seven city suitcase nuke attack would both lead to the stock market crashing and probably the dollar crashing. The real estate markets would crash further if seven major cities have nuclear radiation for years to come. Who'd want to buy property in America then? Of course, the economy in general would collapse and unemployment would go really high. So these events might be used by the USA government to let the dollar crash and blame it on a flu pandemic or terrorist attack and use it to implement martial law. I'm contemplating leaving the country to skip this fall and winter but not sure if Yahweh wants me to go yet.
rb
User ID: 765406
9/8/2009 6:02 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

I thank my God and Father and the Lord Jesus Christ I have been delivered from this overdose of doom this summer!!

love rb
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