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Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010

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Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/8/2009 6:09 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Operation BlackJack

I've previously warned you that based on the prophecies of Dumitru Duduman, Tom Deckard, Thomas Gibson, Matthew Stephen, E.R. Lindsey, Chuck Youngbrandt and other prophets we should expect the following to transpire:

1. Bird flu killing millions, national quarantine, businesses close (Tom Deckard)
2. Next 9/11 event will include 7 cities being hit, including NYC, Washington DC and San Diego (Matthew Stephen prophecy)
3. Economic collapse, severe dollar devaluation, stock market crash (Lindsey Williams, Thomas Gibson, others)
4. WW3 (US vs Russia/China and partners) starts by 2010 (Thomas Gibson)
5. US supports Israel in Middle East war probably against Iran, Syria and Lebanon
6. US supports South Korea against North Korea in renewed conflict (Chuck Youngbrandt)
7. China attacks Taiwan and US supports Taiwan (Dumitru Duduman)
8. 2 assasination in America, 2 in Europe, 2 in Middle East (Matthew Stephen)
9. GW Bush shot, Obama assasinated, French president Sarkozy assasinated (Matthew Stephen)
10. Exactly one year before great California earthquake where all the land west of San Andreas fault falls into ocean three signs happen simultaneoulsy 1) great Australian earthquake, 2) Mediterranean volcano explodes causing tidal wave and 3) mild California earthquake creates cracks in LA and San Francisco city halls. (E.R. Lindsey)
11. Great New Madrid earthquake empties Lake Michigan which pours into Gulf of Mexico and divides USA. Judgment for dividing Israel and Jerusalem. (Matthew Stephen and Chuck Youngbrandt)
12. After China invades Taiwan and Great California Earthquake and 37 days after Great New Madrid Earthqauke, Russian subs nuke coastal cities. And two months after that Russia invades from East, China and Japan from West and Mexico, Cuba, Nicaragua and others help Russia/China in invasion. (Chuck Youngbrandt, E.R. Lindsey)
13. One third of world population dies as a result of earthquakes, tsunamis and WW3. (E.R. Lindsey)
14. By 2012, the USA has been devastated (Matthew Stephen)

Preaparation:
1. Repent of sins, accept Yahshua ha'Maschiach (aka Jesus Christ) as Lord and Savior, pray and fast
2. Consider moving to a place of refuge in USA or leaving country
3. Consider moving finanacial assets out of USA and out of US dollar to real assets such as gold, silver, oil, grains, food, real estate outside of USA and out of paper assets such as government and corporate bonds, stocks with the possible exception of natural resource stocks, currencies undergoing quantative easing.
4. Consider buying 3-6 or more months supply of food, medical supplies, water filters, solar panels to live outside the grid independently.
5. Consider avoiding vaccinations especially the possibly mandatory swine or bird flu vaccinations which may actually infect you with a deadly disease. Remember Baxter Int'l is making vaccines and recently laced seasonal flu vaccine with deadly bird flu vaccine.

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Now I want to share more prophecies, Illuminati warnings, and insider info with you.
Remember to test everything.

John Johnston prophesied:
"Around 1981 God gave me a prophetic word of knowledge that has been partially fulfilled.

Very soon we will see the fulfillment of the rest of this word. The Lord told me the following:

"When you see that the Berlin wall comes down and when you see the Soviet Union take a severe blow then it makes a recovery, and then you see the death of Fidel Castro; then shall come the collapse of the economic system of the United States."
The Berlin wall separated East Germany from West Germany for more than 25 years. The construction began on August 13, 1961 and it was opened on November 9th, 1989.

The Soviet Union is considered to have officially dissolved on December 31, 1991 when all official Soviet institutions had stopped to function in different "republics" of the Soviet Union. The individual governments of these republics started functioning. The Soviet flag flew for the last time over the Kremlin.

As you know Fidel Casto is a very old man now and Cuba could very soon see the death of it's long time Dictator. When you see Casto's death then you will see the complete collapse of the economic system of America!

BE READY!!!! KNOW WHO YOU SERVE BEFORE THIS OCCURS!"
Source: [link to www.squidoo.com]

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Warning from self-declared Illuminati code-named "Hidden Hand"

QUOTE FROM HIDDEN HAND:
"HH: [on Sept. 10, 2008]: I am not at liberty to discuss such intimate immediate detail, and in many cases, I am not far enough up the Hierarchy to know anyway. Typically, I would receive a call a day before the enactment of a major event, just to say something along the lines of 'this part of such and such a plan will take place tomorrow, in such and such a way, do not be alarmed'. Also one has to take into account, the specific areas of specialty I mentioned previously. My area is in Spirituality, so my focus is not so much on Geo-Political events. I am aware of the overall design, though the finer points are not often my area of expertise.

I am prepared to give you some things coming down the timeline, that you will be able to look back upon, and verify my predictions retrospectively.

The Stock Markets will soon complete their controlled demolition. After an initial 'appearance' that the 'bail outs' and 'rescue packages' have steadied the ship, there will be new record lows by the end of the month.

Our Financial Institutions will later call in all loans. There will be many bankruptcies and foreclosures.

The only way John McCain will become the next US President, will be if something "happens" to Barack Obama before the election. If there even is an election. If a certain faction get their way, there will not be. Remember, behind the scenes, there is only One Party. Our Party. 'Democracy' is an illusion which is created to uphold your slavery. Whichever side 'wins'; the Family wins. There are many possibilities and alternative 'scripts'. All of them lead toward the ultimate implementation of the overall blueprint of our Creator.

Unless any unforeseen disruptions delay it's announcement, there will be a new currency by the end of 2008 / early 2009, along with a new Union of nations. January has been spoken of in some circles, as the latest, though there are plans underway which could even bring this to fruition much earlier than initially hoped for. It depends upon the results of other upcoming events as to how this will play out. I am not high enough up the Hierarchy to know the intimate details of the dates and times that far in advance. There is a 'tree system' in which such knowledge is passed down, as and when it becomes 'need to know'. I would be considered to be a "Regional" leader. Above me, are National and International.

San Francisco and Damascus, will be uninhabitable by the end of 2010, possibly even sooner. Again, it depends upon certain 'forces' at play, and which timelines are activated. Humanity, though utterly unconscious of the fact, has a significant part to play in this. You (as a collective consciousness of the planet) are choosing the Negative Polarization by default, by the quality of your thoughts and actions. Thought is creative energy, focused. You get exactly what you put out.

Why do you think the Media is so important to us? You have (as a society), in your hypnotized comatose state, given your Free Will consent to the state your planet is in today. You saturate your minds with the unhealthy dishes served up for you on your televisions that you are addicted to, violence, pornography, greed, hatred, selfishness, incessant 'bad news', fear and 'terror'. When was the last time you stopped, to think of something beautiful and pure? The planet is the way it is, because of your collective thoughts about it. You are complicit in your inaction, every time you 'look the other way' when you see an injustice. Your 'thought' at the sub-conscious level of creation to the Creator, is your allowance of these things to occur. In so doing, you are serving our purpose. It is very important to us, that the Polarization of this planet is Negative at the time of the Great Harvest. That means Service to Self orientated, as opposed to Positive, Service to Others. We require a Negative Harvest, and you are doing a fine job of helping us to attain our goal. We are very grateful.

There will be dramatic changes to your climate and weather conditions over the next few years, as the time of the Great Harvest approaches. You will see windspeeds surpassing 300 miles per hour at times. There will be raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater. "
Source: [link to www.illuminati-news.com]

Notice the warning was given in Sept 2008. Understand that the Illuminati, who are servants of Satan, and even Satan himself do NOT control the timeline but Yahweh does. The Illuminati planned on executing their NWO plan on the USA in the 1980's according to ex-Illuminati John Todd but never got the guns out of the hands of the American public so plan got postponed. Notice he talks about new currency and new union of nations. I believe this is referring to the Amero and the Union of North America (US, Canada and Mexico). Perhaps Yahweh has delayed the dollar collapse until Fidel Castro dies to fulfill his prophecy to John Johnston. Damascus, Syria is one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities of the world and is prophecied to be destroyed in the Bible. This may happen when Israel goes to war with Iran and Syria soon. If you really want to learn all about the Luciferian doctrine, I recommend you read everything Hidden Hand has to say.

Isaiah 17:1-7 (King James Version)
1The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
2The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
3The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts.
4And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.
5And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.
6Yet gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two or three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four or five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith the LORD God of Israel.
7At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.

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Illuminati defector Svali confirms what Hidden Hand has to say about all loans being called in and mass bankruptcies resulting. Svali mentions dollar will be worthless, economic collapse, great depression, gold standard reinstated, international currency, mideast tension and threats of nuclear war. The pledge of loyalty Svali speaks of may involve a Luciferian initiation tied in with a Homeland ID card, later be to be Homeland implanted chip, without which one cannot buy or sell with.

Svali quote:
"Want to hear the end of the world scenario the Illuminati taught me? It was cult propaganda, but this is how they believed the New Order would be ushered in:

There will be continued conflict in the Mideast, with a severe threat of nuclear war being the culmination of these hostilities. An economic collapse that will devastate the economy of the US and Europe, much like the great depression.

One reason that our economy continues limping along is the artificial supports that the Federal Reserve had given it, manipulating interest rates, etc. But one day, this won't work (or this leverage will be withdrawn on purpose) and the next great depression will hit.

The government will call in its bonds and loans, and credit card debts will be called in. There will be massive bankruptcies nationwide. Europe will stabilize first,and Germany, France and England (surprise) will have the strongest economies, and will institute through the UN an international currency. Japan will also pull out, although their economy will be weakened.

Peacekeeping forces will be sent out by the UN and local bases to prevent riots. The leaders will reveal themselves, and people will be asked to make a pledge of loyalty during a time of chaos and financial devastation.

Doesn't sound pleasant, does it? I don't know the exact time frame for all of this, and wouldn't want to even guess. The good news is that if a person is debt-free, owes nothing to the government or credit debt, and can live self sufficiently, they may do better than others. I would invest in gold, not stocks, if I had the income.

Gold will once again be the world standard, and dollars will be pretty useless (remember after the Civil War? Our money will be worth about what confederate money was after the collapse).

All this said, it could just be cult propaganda taught to me and others to frighten us. It may be that none of this will happen. I sincerely hope not. I also strongly believe that God is able to stay the hand of the wicked, and to take care of our nation and others, if we turn to Him."
Source: [link to www.rense.com]

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The weather patterns definitely seem to be different nowadays. Hidden Hand talks about that. Thomas Gibson prophecies also talk about changing weather patterns.

Thomas Gibson prophecy:
"There will come a time when the earth's atmosphere will be a curse. The ionosphere will be damaged beyond what any think now can happen. The earth's magnetic field will no longer be the same. The earth's system of occurrences of weather patterns will no longer be the same or in any way productive, although there will always be summer, winter, fall, and spring, as have been in the past; but there will be a change in these patterns that will be serious trouble for this earth. Now the earth's ozone layer will not only deplete dramatically, such as is occurring now, but it will continue to deplete at an ever increasing rate that is not altogether caused by this earth's pollution, but by My Spirit, says the Lord!"
Source: [link to www.telusplanet.net]

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Hidden Hand talked about new currency and union of nations. Remember the secret US House of Representatives meeting last March of 2008 where it was leaked about the late fall economic collapse, government financial problems by mid-summer 2009, new Amero currency and Union of North America.

Quote from article:
"On March 13th 2008 there was a secret closed door meeting of The United States House Of Representatives in Washington. In the history of The United States this is only the fourth time a secret meeting was held by the house. Even though Representatives are sworn to secrecy by House Rules XVII, some of the members were so shocked, horrified, furious, and concerned about the future of America by what was revealed to them inside the secret meeting, that they have started to leak this secret information to independent news agencies around the world. The mass media said almost nothing about the secret meeting of the House, mentioning only one of the items being discussed. (The new surveillance techniques that are going to be used by the U.S. Government to watch all American citizens). The story was first released in a newspaper out of Brisbane, Australia revealing the contents of the secret U.S. Government meeting and plans for America including all of it’s citizens. Shortly there after, David J. Meyer from Last Trumpet Ministries found it and made it more available for the world to see.

Here is what was revealed:

The imminent collapse of the U.S. Economy to occur sometime in late 2008
The imminent collapse of the U.S. Government finances sometime in mid 2009
The possibility of Civil War inside the United States as a result of the collapse
The advance round-ups of “insurgent U.S. Citizens” likely to move against the government
The detention of those rounded up at The REX 84 Camps constructed throughout the United States
The possibility of public retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses
The location of safe facilities for members of Congress and their families to reside during massive civil unrest
The necessary and unavoidable merger of The U.S. with Canada and Mexico establishing The North American Union
The issuance of a new currency called the AMERO for all three nations as an economic solution. "
Source: [link to dprogram.net]

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The UK newspaper the telegraph recently published a slide show called Operation BlackJack that depicted:

- On June 20th, UK MI5 of imminent terrorist attacks from home-grown terrorists, Islamic and CHRISTIAN DOOMSDAY CULTISTS who have acquired weapons of mass destruction (Now it's USA citizens, christians who believe in Revelations who will be persecuted)
- UK Prime Minister warns of attacks; citizens leave cities, empty grocery stores and gas stations
- Police round-up potential insurgents (Hmmm sounds like what happens in the leak from secret House of Representatives meeting)
- On June 22nd at 8:03AM, 7 cities have massive explosions. The cities include London, Toronto, Mexico City, Washington DC, New York, Los Angeles and Portland. (7 cities struck just like in Matthew Stephen prophecies and as Al Qaeda has threatened to blow up)
- Out of this massive catastrophe an comes a Union of North America (UNA) with USA, Canada and Mexico with the capital in Denver, Colorado.
- There is a new unelected leader of the UNA.
- Iran, Syria and China are blamed for the explosiions in the seven cities even though it was phase 1 of a false flag operation.
- Iran, Syria and China are hit hard in UNA's retalliation.
- Folks who are said to have collaborated are sent to concentration camps in the USA. (We have Rex 84 camps in the USA)
(This may be used to round up patriots, Christians and ex-military who have done nothing wrong but which the government considers threats.)
- Martial law is imposed and a new constitution is introduced
- US debts are forgiven (US government planned attacks to gain sympathy of world so it could be forgiven of it's huge debt)
- A new Amero currency and new Union of North America flag is introduced.
- A Homeland biometric ID card is introduced without which you cannot buy goods or make financial transactions.
- Operation BlackJack was planned by a group within the US government as a false flag attack and it's hinted they have also been responsible for hiding the truth behind Roswell, assasinating President John F. Kennedy and the 9/11 attacks. This group concerns itself with securing oil supplies for the US, dealing with our tremendous national and individual debt and overpopulation.
- Phase 2 of Operation BlackJack will soon be launched to deal with the insurgencies of people along the east and west coasts.
- People protest believing the attacks were a false flag operation like 9/11.
- A mandatory vaccination is required of everyone to protect against certain diseases but actually people are implanted with a Homeland ID chip (possibly the mark of the beast)
- UNA government says internet was used by terrorists so use of internet is restricted
- All journalists have to be liscensed by government (UNA effectively restricts free speech and controls press)
- Protest increase, talk of revolution, military used to suppress protests.
- To unite people in the UNA, partial implementation of phase 3 is planned, which is a false flag bomb going off in Boston.
- But someone in the group calls the police about the location of the bomb. The bomb is discovered to be made in the UNA and people realize all of the previous explosions were false flag operations.
- Military troops defect to their own country and fight against UNA forces. There is civil war.
- END OF BLACKJACK SLIDE SHOW

Please see the five part Operation BlackJack slide show: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

So why am I telling you about a slideshow in the UK Telegraph cultural section? Remember that the Illuminati have a "code of ethics" that require them to tell you or preferable illustrate in visual form what they are going to do to you. The first episode of the X-Files spin-off show "Lone Gunmen" illustrated for you that a plan would be used to bring down the World Trade Center towers in a false flag operation to initiate war in Middle East. Movies like the "The Simpsons", "I Am Legend", "Outbreak" and others illustrate that they are going to "quarantine and kill" you when the next pandemic comes around. The movie "The Watchmen" is illustrating, like the slide show, massive simultaneous explosions in many cities world-wide in a false flag operation (prior to a US vs Russia war). In "The Watchman" movie the attack is carried out by a Watcher/nephilim type super-hero and remember that the high level Illuminati are Watchers or hybird Watcher-humans called nephilim.

"The Lone Gunmen" TV Show Foreshadows 9/11: [link to www.youtube.com]
Quarantine and Kill Illuminati Messages: [link to www.youtube.com]
The Watchmen /Nwo illuminati conspiracy 9/11 ufo truth jfk: [link to www.youtube.com]

E.R. Lindsey prophesied about multiple nuclear explosions around the world:
"Among the many glorious truths revealed to him during his tour of the heavenlies, he was shown the catastrophe soon to befall our beloved country and the entire world. Simultaneously atomic explosions covered the earth. Intense heat swept the land, destroying most of the civilized world as we know it today. But this atomic fire had a cleansing effect upon the earth as well, purifying it of much that was harmful."
Source: [link to www.etpv.org]

There are hidden codes in the slideshow that indicate we should take it seriously. In the slide [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] there is a long string of digits.

74686973206973206e6f742073696d706c7920656e7465727461696e6d​656e74

If you input that string of hexadecimal digits into a hex to string converter ( [link to www.string-functions.com] ), you will get
"this is not simply entertainment". Are they trying to tell you something, like maybe take this slideshow seriously????

On this slide [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] there used to be a a string of characters below but have since been removed. The string was:

54686973206973207468652066696e616c207761726e67206f6e207468​69732073697465202d20616c6c2066757274686572207761726e696e6773​2077696c6c20626520676976656e206f6e206a61636b626c61636b31322e​696e666f2e2042657761726520417264656e742053656e7472792e204265​20616c65727420666f722053656d69732062656172696e67207468652073​756e2069636f6e2e204e6f7420616c6c206665646572616c20617574686f​7269746965732061726520696e766f6c766564

and is converted to

"This is the final warng on this site - all further warnings will be given on jackblack12.info. Beware Ardent Sentry. Be alert for Semis bearing the sun icon. Not all federal authorities are involved"

At the site [link to jackblack12.info] there used to be two timers counting down to June 22, 2010 and Septermber 11, 2011. Are these the timers for phase 1 and phase 2 of Operation BlackJack? I don't know but someone went to alot of trouble to clue you in to take the slideshow seriously. Why do I think this is an Illuminati warning? It has so many of the same elements that I've been warning you about including formation of Union of North America, the new currency the Amero, the collaspse of the dollar, seven cities being hit with explosions, Homeland ID card that becomes a chip that is required to buy and sell, war with Iran, Syria and China, riots, civil war, martial law. But what do I glean from this slideshow that is new?? The USA is not simply going to say we've overspent and we can't pay back the debt, fixed fractional reserve money systems always collapse. Rather, they are going to launch a false flag operation where seven cities including New York City and Washington DC have nuclear or conventional explosives. With this the world's sympathy will be with the USA and it can plead to be forgiven it's debt by the world. The dollar will be worthless or severely devalued after the nuclear explosions. The USA will use this as a reason to launch the Union of North America saying it needs the natural resources of Canada and cheap labor of Mexico to recover economically and compete with the EuroZone. The explosions will be blamed on countries with which we want to start wars with such as Iran, Syria, Lebanon, North Korea and China. The Homeland ID chip will be required to buy or sell. I think this will not be world-wide but probably only in North America and maybe Britain as a test of the mark of the beast system. From my study of the Bible, the mark of the beast gets implemented world-wide at the middle of the tribulation period once the antichrist declares himself to be God and then the persecution of the saints really begins. Be warned !!! Another 9/11 seven times worse is coming!!! Prepare to leave Babylon America!!!

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What's interesting is that Operation BlackJack has 7 cities being hit including Washington DC and New York City, the same as in Matthew Stephens prophecies.

Matthew Stephen Letter to the President GW Bush excerpt:
"Mr. President, we will soon see three massive explosions in three
major cities and one of those cities will be San Diego, CA. An attack
which will be seven times greater than 911 will rise and seven cities
will be hit. When the Lord told me that you would be re-elected a
second term, He also told me that the proceeding president would be a
democrat and would be assassinated. He revealed to me that at the
end of the day, Hillary Clinton will be sitting with a flag pole in
her head ruling the nation, and it will not be by "We the people".
"The Lord Jesus has told me that soon two American and one Middle East
political figures will be assassinated as well as the French
President."
"Ronald Reagan was the greatest man I ever knew. You and Ronald Reagan
are the only Presidents I ever had dreams about. I gave a prophecy
that you would have two attempted assassination on your life. In the
second dream I had about you, I saw you take a hit and you were lying
on the ground. I walked over to you and I look down on you and your
eyes were closed…I saw other things and then the dream ended. I also
know that John McCain will have a heart attack. England will one day
be are enemy again soon and the English pound will fall and they will
bow the knee to the Euro Dollar. America is about to have a large
earthquake and we will have more massive tornadoes and fires. I see
seven Hurricanes rise up and many will make land fall and the south
part of Texas along the Coast and East Coast will be hit very hard
with massive damage."
Source: [link to groups.yahoo.com]

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We have been warned in the news that al-Qaeda is planning to hit seven cities with nuclear devices simultaneouly. Sounds like Operation Blackjack to me.

Author Paul Williams quote:
"Williams maintains that al-Qaida is not content on blowing up one nuclear device or even simply a "dirty" nuke — but wants to explode real nuclear devices in seven U.S. cities simultaneously.
Williams says these cities are New York, Washington, D.C., Las Vegas, Miami, Boston, Houston, and Los Angeles. "
Source: [link to w3.newsmax.com]

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Rumors of Bank Holidays in late August to early September.

I previously told you Hal Turner said a high level New York City police department official had told him about plans for a bank holiday in August/September timeframe which include vouchers (probably for people to buy food since banks would be closed as dollar was devalued and we transitioned to new Amero for Union of North America) and checkpoints. You-tuber valano72 had a video where she said someone told her he went to a police station for an interview and overheard FEMA tell the police department about bank holiday in August-September with vouchers and checkpoints. Now from Bob Chapman we hear that one of his subscribers overheard two men in FEMA jackets tell a California police chief about the federalization of local police forces if banks close in early August/late September. This may really happen or may be a concerted attempted at disinformation. The web bot folks are predicting that starting Oct 26, 2009 to November 2010 you'll see the dollar start to lose it's value and there will be movement away from using it as a reserve curreny. The web bot talks about oil going to $200-$400 per barrel, gold at $6,000 or higher per ounce and incredibly silver at $800-$900 per ounce. I strongly believe within the next 1.5 years and likely sooner than that the dollar will be seriously devalued based on the increase in money supply, our $11 trillion national debt, our $55 trillion in unfunded liabilities, decreasing government revenue streams and reluctance of China and oil-producers to continue to fund our deficit spending. The Bilderbergers have decided on a short depression which means they are not simply going to print more money which takes a good while to create inflation but either repudiate debt (which is doubtful) or more likely devalue the dollar and possibly other currencies. The article on Bob Chapman also says many US embassies are being sent lots of dollars to convert to local currency to support themselves for the next year. This makes sense if a dollar devaluation or dollar repudiation is going to happen. Franklin Roosevelt devalued the dollar by repricing gold at the start of the last Great Depression so don't be surprised if it happens again.

Source for Bob Chapman article: [link to www.examiner.com]
Youtube video on web bot folks: [link to www.youtube.com]
Another youtube video on web bot:

Still doubt that we are going to get dollar devaluation or hyperinflation? Check out these monetary charts from the St. Louis Fed. What do you suppose happens when the monetary base goes from $800 billion to around $1,800 billion???

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/NFORBRES
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BOGAMBSL
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/TOTRESNS
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BOGUMBNS

Marc Faber predicts hyperinflation in next 5-10 years (I think it will be sooner than that and involve an outright devaluation.)
Source: [link to ftalphaville.ft.com]

Regarding the stock market, Jim Rogers who usually is long some stocks and short others now has NO SHORT positions. Why? Because he is concerned that hyperinflation/currency devaluation will occur which will help the stock market. Does that mean it's a good time to get into the stock market? In the short term stocks can go up or down but in the longer term stocks, I believe are headed down. Company insiders are selling alot of stock. Company insiders know the prospects of a company. This is very bearish sign. The S&P usually has dividends around 3%-6%. In order for the dividend to be around 6%, the S&P 500 would have to come down alot. Worse yet, the S&P 500 dividend are usually 40% to 75% of earnings but right now the figure is out of the stratosphere at above 150%!!! That means that S&P 500 earnings do not pay for dividends so dividends will have to go lower. This is a double wammy, not only must stocks go down till dividends are around 6% but the dividends right now are much too high given the current earnings!!!! Daniel Estulin warned thta the Bilderbergers were going to fool the American public to believe the economy was recovering and to invest in the stock market before they crash it again. It's working! From the few people I've talked to all of them were excited and bullish on the stock market. Even if the economy has permanently bottomed which it has not, what do you think will happen when there's a national quarantine because of a bird flu pandemic and businesses shut down or when 7 cities get hit with nukes or conventional explosives???? We'll be near the end of this commodity secular bull market when the dow/gold ratio gets to be around 2 or 1. Be warned!!!!

High level of insider selling: [link to tradenakedoptions.com]
Dow/gold ratio: [link to home.earthlink.net]


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Chuck Youngbrandt prophecy on 3 year judgment of America:
"The following is information given
by God to His prophet, Chuck Youngbrandt. As described in Revelation chapters 17 and 18,
judgment will come on Babylon the Great, and we believe it will commence very soon. We
understand Babylon the Great to be America. The reasons for judgment are given within those
verses and are obvious to all with a sense of God's point of view and His character. And, national
moral error always has its national consequences. God judges nations while they are yet a nation.
Chuck divides the judgment into a three year progression. [Example: If we assume the judgment
would start in the year 2000. (not saying that it would for sure start this year)] It will progress into an
enemy occupation of America lasting seven years. At the end of the seven years, the occupying
armies will be driven out. Weatherwise the year will start with a very rainy spring. On June 9th it gets
very hot and no rain with resulting crop failures. In October it will begin to be very very cold. There will
be volcanic eruption on the west coast. A destructive hurricane will hit the New Orleans area in
September, followed on the 19th by an earthquake in St. Louis. This hurricane, [Sept in New
Orleans,] is a sign that in the following December an accidental Russian firing of a nuclear missile
attack on America will occur. While the Russians try to stop them, 4 get through. They hit Lexington
KY, Columbia SC, Richmond, VA, and just north of New York City. The U.S. counter attacks and hits
three Russian cities. In this year North Korea will attack South Korea, China attacks Taiwan. War
again in the Persian Gulf where we loose. The stock market will start its fall in July and will result in
one half the people being out of work with great inflation and coupled with food shortages, starvation
will start. From other prophets like Dan Bohler, terrorist attacks will become common. The destruction
of trains, planes, school busses, power plants and on and on. With our economy reduced, fuel will be
in short supply. Food riots will start in August, August will be a real turning point. Those who are
rebellious against God will now rebel against the government including the communists fifth
columnists we have here. Military troops will have to be called out as a result. Some will repent but
many will continue in rebellion. God said 90% of the rebellious and disobedient church people will die
during this time. What sounds like germ warfare or at least a plague breaks out in California and
Georgia killing thousands as it spreads, panic and fear will result. China and Japan buddy up closer
in their economies, Japan out of fear, no doubt.
Example of the second year, 2001, weatherwise there is the very cold winter, some places no snow
and others to much, -46 degrees in Chicago. Eighty percent of the homes in America will be without
heat and with little food many will starve to death. Dead bodies will lie in the streets. It will reach 120
degrees by mid May. The year starts out in January with an earthquake in northern Iowa followed in
February by another one in Boston and then they become very common throughout the year. In late
spring God's prophets will go across the land calling people to repentance, many will repent.
Electrical power will be rationed, this may be the result of the strange and powerful ejecta from the
sun which can destroy power grid hardware like it did in Quebec in 1989, that little one cost 10 million
to repair. Oil imports are cut off. Very little food. Again half the people out of work. Mexico and
Canada restrict how many Americans can cross over. Fear, pain, and misery for the unbelievers.
Miracles for the Christians, food increased, dead raised. At this time persecution of Christians will go
wild with government approval.
Next during the third year, in the summer, July 5th, a mighty, very powerful earthquake hits Chicago,
it will be heard for 500 miles around, knock people off their feet in Detroit. The water in Lake
Michigan will rush to the north and then return 15 stories high and totally destroy Chicago. The water
will continue down the Mississippi river valley wiping out all the cities in its path including New
Orleans. Thirty days later, angels will tell the Christians where to flee, and seven days after, an all out
nuclear attack will hit America. At this time in Florida most of the southern half of the state from
Orlando south will go under ocean water, be gone. The U.S. Military will have received a death blow,
very little military left. Two months later is the invasion. Russian troops land at Slaughter Beach,
Delaware, they move on into Philadelphia where no one is alive from 3 neutron bombs. They take
over many air fields and land a million in personnel. China, Cuba, Mexico, Japan, Nicaragua, Serbia,
and one other country join in the attack. On the west coast the Chinese land and enter through
Mexico with Mexican help and up into California, they also land at San Francisco. They land in
Astoria, Oregon with mainly Japanese personnel. In California the Chinese are ordered to kill all
Americans. They dig great holes with earthmovers and bury people alive. This is stopped by a battle
in San Francisco where the Chinese general who promoted "death to all" was killed. Alaska was
taken by the Russians and they killed everyone there. Hawaii surrendered to the Japanese. The
Russians will take some Americans back to Russia for slave labor. Russia and China will plunder the
land. Chuck saw busts of Karl Marx set up in churches and people worshiped him. As the seven
years go by, children are sold for food. Chuck said at this time you could buy a child for a pack of
cigarettes. Witches and homosexuals will hunt Christians for food, cannibalism! Near the end of this
occupation Americans were put on trains, told they were going to reeducation camps, and taken to
slaughter houses where they were processed for food, again the satanic groups wish to kill millions of
people. This is when the anointed Leader of the Land, by God's power, drives the invaders out.
When this starts happening the "enemy" Christian soldiers that are here join with the Americans
driving the others out. All totaled 70% of Americans will have died. Store food? YES! Shoot at the
enemy when they come, one against the many? NO! Look to God always. Do not fear the enemy,
fear God, Rev 14:7.
Jesus, why are you telling me this, Chuck asked. "That my children should prepare their hearts for
these things and believe on me, for I am able to supply all your needs in every adversity. That you
walk in faith and not fear. That you stand upon my promises and see them. That you abide in my love
and know that I am the Lord thy God."
Source: [link to www.survivalprimer.com]

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I remember talking to someone studying to be a bush pilot at Moody Bible Institute. He told me he was taught that gifts of the spirit were no longer in operation. That's funny. Yahshua healed the sick, cast out demons and rose the dead, rebuked the false religious leaders of the day and preached the good news of the gospel. And Yahshua said "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." (John 14:12). Yahshua was so effective in evangelism, because not only did he preach the gospel but also did miracles in His compassion for the people. So the institutional church today has a form of godliness but lacks the power thereof. Have no doubt something will happen to have the bride come out of the institutional church and be purified, living in the example and power of the early church.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm just not fooling myself and all of this will not come to pass. Yet I remind myself that the US Navy is trailing a North Korean ship and if the US boards it to see if there are weapons there, then North Korea will withdraw from the armistice that ended the Korean War. I remind myself that Israel is dead set on a war with Iran if US diplomacy with Iran fails which it will. I remind myself that the swine flu although not very deadly is man-made and is a prelude to what is coming. I remind myself that the US debt is so huge and it's economy so outsourced that it will never come out of this without devaluing the dollar. And when I try to convince others of what's coming it's like an exercise in futility. Is it that the TV puts us in a hypnotic state by putting our brain in an alpha or theta state? Is it that the mainstream media continually repeats the same lies as the government, which alters the true statistics on unemployment and inflation? Is it that they put flouride in the water to make us passive as Germany did with it's POWs in WW2? Is it the chemtrails or poisons they put in our food such as aspartame, MSG and high fructose corn syrup? I don't know but Americans certainly seem to be zombified.

Congratulations on reading this far. My take is few do. The warnings are just about over. I don't see myself warning much more.

"Few will hear the message.
Of those who do, even fewer will understand.
Of those who understand, even fewer will believe.
Of those who believe, even fewer will prepare."
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/8/2009 1:13 PM
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THE MARKETS ARE FALLING PREPARE

Dear Saints,

May this letter found you seeking the Lord Jesus Christ. So many people are asking what to do in this hour, how to get ready when they should move or where to move. There is so much more going on. We as the Body of Christ need to Prepare fast and get in place. I had some very profound dreams I like to share with you in very short. As I write you, I have also written high level leaders in Washington D.C.. Which I will share in another letter shortly. What I am about to share today please pass this along to others so they may read and Prepare.

First I would like to share a little spiritual insight in the Word Then I will share a Vision and Dream with you all.

Isaiah 31 The Folly of Not Trusting God 1 Woe to those who go down to Egypt ( America) for help, And rely on horses, Who trust in chariots because they are many, And in horsemen because they are very strong, But who do not look to the Holy One of Israel, Nor seek the LORD! 2 Yet He also is wise and will bring disaster, And will not call back His words, But will arise against the house of evildoers, And against the help of those who work iniquity. 3 Now the Egyptians (Americans) are men, and not God; And their horses are flesh, and not spirit. When the LORD stretches out His hand, Both he who helps will fall, ( Who try to save this Babylon with unholy prayers). And he who is helped will fall down; They all will perish together. In that the Lord is calling for His people to return unto the Lord God and to come out of her so that your trust must be in the Lord Jesus Christ and Him only, not in the things of the world for He is pulling the rug of Babylon out from under the Church 6 Return to Him against whom the children of Israel have deeply revolted. 7 For in that day every man shall throw away his idols of silver and his idols of gold—sin, which your own hands have made for yourselves.

Romans 8 Free from Indwelling Sin 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,[a] who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
To come out of her and remove the Breach in our lives is so very important in this hour so many are leaving and losing there calling, because they have let the devil hold a mirror in there face to have them look at there sin they have not let go of . This is how the devil keeps them feeling bad and never moving forward. But Yeshua has call His people out to take there places on the wall, For you are my Brothers and Sisters and you have a call in your life, please do not give up take your place in the Kingdom of God and stand up and fight. We as the Bride will not take it any longer, we will not stand by and let the devil win for his day has now come to the end, We as the Bride are here to rule and reign in Jesus Christ here on the earth may the Lord bless you as you prepare to move forward in all that the Lord has for you.

A time to Prepare Prepare for the hour is here and those who come out of the old way to buy the oil of the Holy Spirit and Prepare both in the Spirit and the physical is now. If there is ever a time to act now is the time do whatever you are going to do do quickly for all things are going to happen very quickly now and the stores are going to be empty in one hour the banks are going to be close and there will not be any communications for Internets or phones. you must hurry. I hear the Lord say tell my people to Hurry and Prepare and Prepare quickly. This is a word I have spoken again and again and more so since I came out of the wilderness in 2007. I want you to be strong in the Lord by the power of His Might. Do not fear but take refuge for you and your family right away, the door is closing to all stores, banks , travel, and jobs, the Markets are about to take a major fall, As I have heard the Lord tell me before NY, Washington D.C and CA. will be struck with explosions a 911 event is at the door, the ocean is rising and the second Storm is upon the land and all things as we now know will be change in one hour.

The Dream and Vision: Aug. 23, 2009 and Aug.24, 2009
In this vision I heard a loud shout from the heaven, who I believe is the Angel over and assigned to the Markets. The loud words went forth and a shout came out very loud and said " ALL TIME LOW THE MARKETS HAVE FALLEN". The word given to me that day to tell the people was Chapter Jeremiah 7 and Ezekiel 7.

The next night I had a dream that reminded me when I took my staff in a vision and struck the Statue of Liberty in Dec.2007 and the words appeared 911 and the markets and all industry including the Auto, Airlines, Corporate jobs,Insurance, Banking and the Government structure will fall.
In the Dream I saw the Statue of Liberty and as I look at her, I saw her Crown torn from her head and thrown down, then I looked and I saw the Shelf's of my food pantry and I heard the Lord say get your food pantry finish and Prepare for the Store shelf's will be empty in one hour.

I pray you will be ready and pass this on to all who have ears to hear what the Spirit of the Lord is saying to the Church.
God Bless you all, Love,
Matthew Stephen
Watchman of Yahweh
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9/8/2009 1:16 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Matthew Stephens has Chicago as one of the 7 cities that get hit along with Washington DC, New York City and Los Angeles.
Watchman of Yahweh
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9/9/2009 12:37 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Bilderberg 2009: Short but Severe Depression, Possible World-Wide Curency Devaluation

SUMMARY

The Bilderberg group met May 14-17 in Vouliagmeni, Greece at the Nafsika Astir Palace luxury resort. The group got it's name from the Hotel de Bilderberg, near Arnhem in The Netherlands, where they met for the first time in May of 1954. The Bilderberg group meets once a year usually in Europe and once every four years in Canada or the USA. It's an invitation only meeting of about 130 people ranging from presidents, prime ministers, European nobility, executives from banking, finance, media and other industrialists. Bilderbergers say they just discuss issues but it's interesting that they talked about having a European Union and euro currency and then it happens. So they don't just discuss issues, but rather set the agenda and make things happen. Bill Clinton and Tony Blair were invited to the Bilderberger group meeting before they ever made it big as president and prime minister, respectively so it seems that Bilderbergers have a role in selecting future leaders. What's amazing is that the mainstream media rarely reports on this important gathering - one more indication that the mass media is controlled.

The two reporters who have covered the Bilderbergers for a long time and have alleged insider sources within the Bilderberg group are Jim Tucker and Daniel Estulin. Jim Tucker says that the Bilderbergers will use the swine flu and the global economic depression to usher in global health and economic structures. This doesn't surprise me since global government has always been part of the agenda. Tucker also says they will push Obama to get the USA to agree to be part of the International Criminal Court by having the Senate approve the treaty. This would give up USA soveriegnty to an international organization.

The more interesting report came from Daniel Estulin who reports that the Bilderbergers were going to decide whether to have a long drawn out global depression lasting many years or have a very severe but short-lived depression. Estulin says that the Bilderbergers want to convince people good times are here again so they will invest in the stock market so they can crash it again. Estulin says they decided on a short but severe depression. The Bilderbergers are also going to push to have the Lisbon treaty approved in Ireland again even if the people of Ireland voted against it. If that doesn't work, they'll do an end run around by maybe having the Irish parlaiment pass it. Estulin has a very good record with predictions based on what his Bilderberger insiders have said. For instance, Estulin predicted several years ago that the Bilderbergers planned on creating a sub-prime mortgage crisis and that's exactly what happened.

Hal Turner says a Bilderberg attendee told him that the Bilderbergers were planning a currency devaluation of all currencies by revaluing the price of gold. The attendee said that gold might go to $5,000 to $10,000 or even higher as a way of reflating asset prices and monetizing the huge overhang of public and private debt. The attendee also said there wouldn't be gold confiscation but I still think it's better to have physical possession of gold bullion rather than have paper gold like investing in a gold ETF. I noticed that much of what Hal Tuner's Bilderberg attendee said is what Larry Edelson said in the article I've included at the end. I don't know if Larry Edelson is Hal Turner's source but I suspect he is. I don't really know much about Hal Turner's past predictions and whether they have come true but I do have a high regard for Estulin's predictions.

If Estulin's prediction of a short but very severe depression is true, then how would the Bilderbergers accomplish it? Well, many governments are employing quantitative easing or basically printing money like there is no tomorrow to make the huge debts easier to repay in cheaper currencies. But they can't seem to print enough money to stimulate the economy so why not just devalue the currency outright? But the economies are interconnected so that if the US dollar is devalued then the Japaneese would want to devalue the yen to keep their exports reasonably priced. No country wants to hurt their exports by having them overpriced so all the countries would have an incentive to devalue their currencies simultaneously to keep their value relative to other currencies stable.

I already knew we were going to have inflation. That's baked into the cake when you have the US dollar monetary base go from $800 billion to $2.2 trillion in six months, when the government makes loan guarantees, bailouts, stimulus packages, investments in the amount of $12 trillion and no one wants to buy our Treasuries to finance US government debt so the Fed has to step in and monetize the debt. I already knew that we are in a secular bear market for stocks and that this latest rally is a bear market rally so I expect the bear market to resume later on possibly in the fall. Bear market rallies are quite powerful but only last about 2-6 months. Secular bear markets bottom when dividends are about 6% not 2% as they are now. Secular bear markets bottom when the stock market price to earnings ratio (P/E ratio) is 5-8 P/E, not around 20 P/E. What I didn't know is whether we were going to have a long inflationary depression or a one time major devaluation of the dollar. Based on the insider Bilderberger info, I know think it will be a short but very severe depression with a one-time devaluation of the dollar. But not only the dollar will be devalued but likely all other major currencies will be devalued to keep trading relationships unaffected. I knew that many currencies besides the dollar would be weakened because many governments are doing quantitative easing such as the US, Great Britain, Switzerland and Japan. But I thought maybe some currencies would be OK such as the Euro. I am no longer confident of that. I know think all currencies will be affected to one extent or another. I think every government will give in to the temptation to devalue their currency, some more than others of course. When I reflect upon it, I now remember that the oil executive told Lindsey Williams not to use the word "depression" but "financial collapse". The word "depression" is apropo for a long drawn out inflationary depression but "financial collapse" is more appropriate if the dollar is devalued 60%-90% along with other currencies and the stock market crashes also. It looks like the elite are going to do what the movie "Rollover" predicted - the crash of all currencies and stock markets.

Dollar Collapse! Bank Runs! 80's Movie Predicted it! eat_shit_george (Rollover movie) (10 min)
[link to www.youtube.com]

Paper assets such as currencies, government and corporate bonds, mortgage securities, stock market are in a secular bear market. Currencies are losing values because governments are expanding money supply and doing deficit spending and running trade deficits. As currencies are devalued, government and corporate bond holders as well as mortgage security holders will be paid back with cheaper currency as the interest rates do not compensate for the increased inflation. Stock markets will go lower as retiring baby boomers pull out money from the stock market in the years to come. The stock market will bottom when the stock market dividend is around 6% and the P/E ratio is around 5 to 8.

Commodiites such as metals (e.g. gold, silver, platinum, copper), energies (e.g. oil, gasoline, natural gas, heating oil) and agricultural products (e.g. corn, wheat, soybean, cotton, cocoa, coffee, cattle) are in a secular bull market. Commodoties are resuming their uptrend after suffering a severe correction the last six months. You simply can't make an electronic entry and create REAL ASSETS like you can paper money. I think REAL ASSETS is the place to be. I don't particularly like real estate because banks have a large shadow inventory of homes they have foreclosed on but have not put up for sale, unemployment will still be going much higher since it's a lagging indicator and so many people will not be able to pay their mortgages and be foreclosed on and there are still many ARMs (adjustable rate mortgages) that will reset to higher interest rates and cause more foreclosures, and to top it all of, I still believe World War III is coming to America in a few years for which I'm hoping to be out of here by then. Some of the more savvy investors may try to use out of the money call options on commodoties such as gold, silver and oil to protect their assets and make some extra money just be sure to give yourself enough time for the devaluation to happen. I think it might happen this year but I would give myself 1.5 years to be on the safe side. Also, on low probability bets such as out of the money options never risk more than 1 to 2% of funds since they do have a high chance of expiring worthless. Think of such bets as insurance that protects you against an extreme circumstance.

Disclaimer: Please do not act on any advice without consulting your financial advisor. I am not responsible for your trading or investment decisions. I'm sharing my general thoughts on asset classes not giving specific advice. Consider any information I provide as educational rather than financial. Yes, I don't want to be sued so please talk to your financial adviser before making any decisions.

Many signs are pointing the same way: economic collapse, dollar collapse and stock market crash. The prophets, web bots, Lindsey Williams oil executive, secret march 2008 House of Representatives meeting leak are all saying the same thing. Yet many of my friends still don't believe the scenario I've layed out. I even have a hard time coming to grips with it myself. But even if you don't believe the prophets, Illuminati warnings and intelligence leaks, what do you think is going to happen when the dollar monetary base goes from $800 billion to $2.2 trillion??? I would expect the dollar to lose about 66% of it's purchasing power thru inflation over a period of time if not by outright devaluation. If we are in a secular bear market and bear markets bottom at 6% dividend yield and 8 P/E what do you think is going to happen to the stock market with a P/E of about 20 and dividend yeild of about 2%?? I would expect it to go down about 66% also or even more if earnings continue to drop in this depression. I say this to those who don't believe in the prophets so that you can still be spared. Yet even in my friends I see a strong reticence towards heeding the warning. A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge.

So when might this currency devaluation happen by? I really don't know but I think it may be this year or next. Lindsey Williams said last year in June it would happen in about a year so we should be getting close. If you really press me to take a guess AND I DO MEAN GUESS, I would say in the August-September timeframe. Why? Because you-tuber valano72 said a person told her that he went to a police department for an interview and overheard FEMA telling the officers that around August-September 2009 there would be bank closures, vouchers being given out for necessities like food and checkpoints manned by police/army on the highways. Also Hal Turner said he had a high level New York police officer contact who told him that in August-September timeframe there would be vouchers and checkpoints. Both seem to agree as to timeframe and what will happen. If banks will close I think that's a good indication of dollar devaluation and new currency being issued. I don't know how reliable that info is but I give it to you so you can decide. Although I have predictive dreams at times, I am not a prophet and really don't know when this might happen. I interpret this info to mean that I need to be ready before August. Actually, since this may happen at any time I think I need to be fully ready right now. If doesn't happen in August-September understand that dollar losing purchasing power and stock market going lower after this rally scenario is still very likely to play out at a minumum and the dollar devaluation can still happen. I'm concerned that if doesn't happen in August September some of you will want to dismiss all the warnings I've given to you. I've seen such a strong tendency for mankind to purposefully deceive itself concerning dire warnings as if ignoring them makes their future reality go away. Satan's best tool is deception and the human heart seems woefully prone to deception. Let's pray that Yahweh make keep us in His truth. Amen.

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Bilderberg 2009 Greece May 14 - 17 Vouliagmeni, Nafsika Astir Palace hotel
[link to www.youtube.com]

Daniel Estulin on Bilderberg 2009 (10 min)
[link to www.youtube.com]

Afshin Rattansi and Daniel Estulin on Bilderberg Conspiracy 2009 1of3
[link to www.youtube.com]

BILDERBERG: BIG, BAD & UGLY: Daniel Estulin (#2 (10 min)
[link to www.youtube.com]

Bilderberg 2009 agent provocateur on Russia Today
[link to www.youtube.com]

Bilderberg 2009 Attendance List
[link to www.agent] provocateur.com/bilderberg-2009-attendance-list.html
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Article below is from:
[link to www.americanfreepress.net]

FLASH! TROUBLEMAKERS CONVENTION

Global Elite Hunker Down in Greek Luxury Resort


By James P. Tucker Jr.

DISPATCH RECEIVED MAY 14, 9:30 A.M. EDT

Bilderberg luminaries all appeared grim-faced as they stepped from their limos on to the grounds of the Nafsika Astir Palace Hotel in Vouliagmeni, Greece. They arrived from the airport in nearby Athens, escorted by police with sirens blaring. The world economy is at the top of the Bilderberg agenda. Bilderberg will debate how to exploit the global recession and fabrications about “swine flu” to advance its world government goals. Bilderberg’s agenda has expanded, even as public awareness has grown.

Sources within Bilderberg said President Obama will be instructed to make another effort to get the United States to sign on to the International Criminal Court. The ICC treaty, if ratified by the Senate, would be superior to the Constitution, able to overrule Congress and the Supreme Court and impose “world law” on America.

Bilderberg leaders said they understood the effort would have to be handled with “subtle delicacy” because of the Senate’s traditional hostility to joining the ICC.

Former President Bill Clinton, who attended Bilderberg as the obscure governor of Arkansas in 1991 and was elected president in 1992, OK’d the ICC treaty, even though a test vote showed more than 90 senators objecting to the treaty, including world government advocates who were scared off by patriotic voters made aware of the perils by The Spotlight, the inspiration for AMERICAN FREE PRESS. So Clinton dared not submit the ICC treaty for ratification, and was forced to wait for a wind change in politics.



BILDERBERG OWNS OBAMA

But Bilderberg owns President Obama, who sees himself as a “citizen of the world.” He will be sweet-talking Senate supporters who are afraid to back the treaty. He will be hoping for an even more left-wing Senate after the 2010 election, His goal, as dictated by Bilderberg, is to persuade the new Senate (to be seated in January 2010), to ratify the ICC treaty late on a Saturday night, too late for the Sunday papers or to make changes in the Sunday TV talkies.

You will not read of this in the Bilderberg-controlled Washington Post, New York Times, Los Angeles Times or hear about it on network news broadcasts.

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Articles quoted from:
[link to www.moneyandmarkets.com]

The G-20’s Secret Debt Solution
by Larry Edelson 11-13-08


If you think this weekend’s G-20 meetings in Washington are only about designing short-term fixes to the financial system and regulatory reforms for banks, hedge funds, brokers, mortgage companies and investment banks … think again.

Behind the scenes, a far more fundamental fix is being discussed — the possible revaluation of gold and the birth of an entirely new monetary system.

I’ve been studying this issue in great depth, all my life. And given the speed at which the financial crisis is unfolding, I would be very surprised if what I’m about to tell you now is not on the G-20 table this weekend.

Furthermore, I believe the end result will make my $2,270 price target for gold look conservative, to say the least. You’ll see why in a minute.

First, the G-20’s motive for a new monetary system: It’s driven by and based upon this very simple proposition …

“If we can’t print money fast enough to fend off another deflationary Great Depression, then let’s change the value of the money.”

I call it …


The G-20 may propose devaluing all currencies, including the U.S. dollar and the euro.
“The G-20’s Secret Debt Solution”

It would be a strategy designed to ease the burden of ALL debts — by simultaneously devaluing ALL currencies … and re-inflating ALL asset prices.

That’s what central banks and governments around the world are going to start talking about this weekend — a new financial order that includes new monetary units that helps to wipe clean the world’s debt ledgers.

It won’t be an easy deal to broker, since the U.S. is the world’s largest debtor. But remember: Debts are now going bad all over the world. So everyone would benefit.

Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke … Treasury Secretary Paulson … President Bush … President-elect Obama … former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker … Warren Buffett … and central bankers and politicians all over the world agree a new monetary system is needed.


So they’ll start hashing out the details to get the new financial architecture deployed as quickly as possible.

If you think I’m crazy or propagating some kind of conspiracy theory, then consider the historical precedent …

To end the Great Depression in 1933 Franklin Roosevelt devalued the dollar via Executive Order #6102, confiscating gold and raising its price 69.3%, effectively kick starting asset reflation.

Only this time, it won’t be just the U.S. that devalues its currency. The world is too interconnected. Instead, the world’s leading countries will propose a simultaneous and universal currency devaluation.

This time, they will NOT confiscate gold. There would be riots all over the globe if they even mentioned the “C” word.

But they don’t have to confiscate gold. Here’s one scenario …

They cease all gold sales and instead, raise the current official central bank price of gold from its booked value of $42.22 an ounce — to a price that monetizes a large enough portion of the world’s outstanding debts.

That way, just like in 1933, the debts become a fraction of re-inflated asset prices (led higher by the gold price).

And this time, instead of staying with the dollar as a reserve currency, the G-20 issues three new monetary units of exchange, each with equal reserve status.

The three currencies will essentially be a new dollar, new euro, and a new pan-Asian currency. (The Chinese yuan may survive as a fourth currency, but it will be linked to a basket of the three new currencies.)

The new fiat monetary units would be worth less than the old ones. For instance, it could take 10 new units of money to buy 1 old dollar or euro.

New names would be given to the new currencies to help rid the world of the ghost of a system that failed. Additional regulations and programs would be designed and implemented to ease the transition to a new monetary system.


The IMF would be at the center of the new monetary system.
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) would implement the new financial system in conjunction with central banks and governments around the world.

Keep in mind that the IMF is already set up to handle the transition, and has had contingency plans allowing for it since the institution was formed in 1944.

Included in the design and transition to a new monetary system …

A. A new fixed-rate currency regime. Immediately upon upping the price of gold and introducing the new currencies, a new fixed exchange rate system would be re-introduced. The floating exchange rate system would be tossed into the dust bin along with the old currencies.

This would kill any speculation about further devaluations in the currency markets, and drastically reduce market volatility.

B. To sell the program to savers and protect them from the currency devaluation, compensatory measures would be enacted. For instance, a one-time windfall tax-free deposit could be issued by governments directly to citizens’ accounts, or, to employer-sponsored pensions, to IRAs, or Social Security accounts.

Income taxes may subsequently be raised to pay for the give-away, or a nominal global type of sales tax could be enacted to help pay for the new system and the compensatory measures.

C. Additional programs would be designed to protect lenders and creditors. Lenders stand a much higher chance of getting paid off under the new monetary system — but with a currency whose purchasing power would now be a fraction of what it was when the loans were originated.

So programs would have to be designed to help lenders offset the inflationary costs of their devalued loans, probably via the tax code.

Naturally, all this is a bit more complicated than I’ve spelled out above. But that gives you a big-picture outline of what the plan could look like. And I think major changes like these are going to be set in motion at this weekend’s G-20 meetings in Washington.

Would they work?

Yes. They would help avoid a repeat of the deflationary Great Depression. But don’t expect even a new monetary system to put the U.S. or the global economy back on track toward the high rates of real growth that we’ve seen over the last several years. That’s simply not going to happen. Not for a while.

Instead, I’m talking about a massive asset price reflation, negative real economic growth in the U.S. and Europe — but continued real GDP gains in Asia.

The Big Question: What gold price would be legislated to reflate the U.S. and global economy?

I can’t tell you what gold price the G-20 would ultimately agree to. But here’s what they will be looking at …

To monetize 100% of the outstanding public and private sector debt in the U.S., the official government price of gold would have to be raised to about $53,000 per ounce.

To monetize 50%, the price of gold would have to be raised to around $26,500 an ounce.

To monetize 20% would require a gold price a hair over $10,600 an ounce.

To monetize just 10%, gold would have to be priced just over $5,300 an ounce.
Those figures are just based on the U.S. debt structure and do not factor in global debts gone bad. But since the U.S. is the world’s largest debtor and the epicenter of the crisis, the G-20 will likely base their final decision mostly on the U.S. debt structure.

So how much debt do I think would be monetized via an executive order that raises the official price of gold? What kind of currency devaluation would I expect as a result?

I would not be surprised to see the G-20 monetize at least 20% of the U.S. debt markets. THAT MEANS …

Gold would be priced at over $10,000 an ounce.

Currencies would be devalued by a factor of at least 12 to 1, meaning it would take 12 new dollars or euros to equal 1 old dollar or euro.
The return of the Gold Standard?

“But Larry,” you ask, “how could this be accomplished when we no longer have a gold standard? Further, are you advocating a gold standard?”


If the G-20 monetizes at least 20% of the U.S. debt markets, gold could easily hit $10,000 an ounce.
My answers:

First, you don’t need a gold standard to accomplish a devaluation of currencies and revaluation of the monetary system.

By offering to pay over $10,000 an ounce for gold, central banks can effectively accomplish the same end goal — monetizing and reducing the burden of debts, via inflating asset prices in fiat money terms.

Naturally, hoards of gold investors will cash in their gold. The central banks will pile it up. At the same time, other hoards of investors will not sell their gold, even at $10,000 an ounce. But the actual movement of the gold will not matter. It is the psychological impact and the devaluation of paper currencies that matters.

Second, I do NOT advocate a fully convertible gold standard. Never have. There isn’t enough gold in the world to make currencies convertible into gold. It would end up backfiring, restricting the supply of money and credit.

What should you do to prepare for these possibilities?

It’s obvious: Make sure you own some core gold, as much as 25% of your investable funds.

Also, as I’ve noted in past Money and Markets issues, you will want to own key natural resource stocks, and even select blue-chip stocks that will participate in the reflation scheme.

For more details and specific recommendations to follow, be sure to subscribe to my Real Wealth Report.

Best wishes,

Larry

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Watchman of Yahweh
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9/13/2009 12:47 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

"An End-Time-Vision..." by Pastor Joh.W.Matutis

Hi,

...I have this to give you very quickly.
Now, there's still time, but soon it will be too late.

God bless You
Pastor Joh.W.Matutis
www.nnk-berlin.de (see the english menu)


An End-Time-Vision...
==============
While trying to prepare my message, the Lord showed me a vision.

I saw a large pasture with very many sheep. All of a sudden, from
every direction and from all over, came wolves upon the herd, mixing
themselves amongst the sheep. Neither the shepherds nor the shepherd
dogs (of utmost importance) sounded any alarm.
They lay on the floor as if hypnotized.
There was just a bit of panic within the herd.
The sheep did notice that something was wrong, but they took no serious note
of what was happening. They just continued grazing in a relaxed manner.
The shepherds and the shepherd dogs on the other hand noticed nothing.

As I observed closely, I saw the wolves, which had fangs like
snakes in their mouths, tweak (pinch or prick) the sheep on their buttocks.
These twitched briefly, and then continued their relaxed grazing.
After a short while, the wolves ran from the herd, withdrawing themselves
again into the mountains, without having stolen a sheep or inflicted any
visible harm on them.

On seeing all these things, I thought to myself. ‘This is not at all possible,
that wolves would come amongst sheep and not harm them. This is out of
character! Then as the wolves left the sheep, I saw all of a sudden the
leader of the wolf pack, together with his whole wolf followership on a high
cliff. It was like a great beast; a monster.
Then the wolves began to howl and yelp.
The shepherd, shepherd dogs and all the sheep were terrified, shivering and
shocked.

And the leader of the pack began, like a demon, to speak with a deep human
voice. “My dear shepherds, dogs and all my dear sheep. You now belong to us.
We have you completely in our hands.
We were amongst you, without your noticing anything. We worked
amongst you in disguise. We even inoculated you with a "serum" that makes you
now ours. You are all, as at now, bearing our “mark”.
We have also inoculated you with our spirit and data, without your having been
aware. There is now no more escape for you. The whole flock is now under our
control.

I then said in my spirit “No! The Lord is my shepherd. I will have nothing to
do with the devil and his demons. I will not have them as my shepherds”.
Then spoke the leader of the wolf pack even further with a sneer on his face,
saying “the sheep here ate and slept. Your bellies and welfare was
more important to you.

Now hear what this demon said to me very clearly: We have now come to take
revenge for our man of the Gadarenes. (See Mark 5:1-17) Back then, your Lord
cast us out of him, and we had to flee into sweine and spring into the abyss.
Now though, we have recovered and are strong enough to leave our
cursed dwellings again. We have therefore returned from the abyss to take
revenge against him (Jesus) and his works. These sheep all grazing here have
been infected by our demons from the abyss. They can no longer escape.
They belong to us absolutely.

I was shocked!
===========
Here, God spoke to me saying ‘my son, every person will be asked
to compulsorily take immunization against the swine flu in the next few days.
This is a disguise. They will in the process be infected with demons from the
abyss; all who do not have my spirit and my seal upon them.
Yes, it will be such that that they will receive a deadly spirit inoculated
into them. This will allow the wolves do with them what they like.
Whoever does not follow them, antagonises or stands against them in any way,
will be eliminated at the touch of a button.

For such will there be no more escape from them.
Yes it is true, my son says the Lord. These cursed spirits will arise again
out of the abyss and return through the ‘swine’ to continue their mischief
amongst the people who neither know nor follow me. I however, with my church
will do same as then. We will depart from that area. So will those demons
from the abyss exterminate one third of humanity.

Then said the Lord to me further.
But you, my children, who follow me, must be bold and brave, and say NO!
Do not allow yourselves to be pricked and inoculated.
You must consistently trust me.
I will take you with me to the other shore, and we will continue there.
For you my children, life goes on quite normally.
You are my sheep. You hear my voice and follow me. And I send you as sheep
amongst wolves. (Matthew 10.16) Warn all my children and all men of good will
against this worldwide compulsory inoculation.
It appears harmless. It is not!

It is more the return on the ancient demons of the abyss. Warn everyone!
Even when you are termed “paranoid” and “terrorist”. You are my children,
and my people. You are holy. You should therefore have no other ‘stigma’ in
your bodies. Your body is a temple for my holy spirit, and not a secret
dwelling for demons, which had been cast out by me, from which I delivered
you, says the Lord. I am passing on this message as it was given me.

Dear friends,we are right in the end times. Watch quite carefully, what
happens to you and your children. The devil is, and remains a liar. Und he has
no good intentions. I was shaken, when God showed me this vision with the
swine, in connection with the whole thing about immunization against swine
flu.

The believers are about to undergo the end times test, where will be shown,
whether we have enough resistance power, enough to say NO.
You are not defenceless. God gave you his Holy Spirit and the whole armour
(see Ephesians 6: 16-17). These you will now need and must soon make use of.
If you are not yet a true child of God, repent! Be baptized and be filled the
Holy Spirit, so that the seal of God will be upon your life
(Ephesians 1:1,13, 4:30 and Revelations 7:3&4) and you cannot be touched for
the devil.

Do write me a few lines.
I would like to keep praying for you.

Pastor Joh.W.Matutis.

www.nnk-berlin.de (see the english menu)

More prophetic messages and information about me and my ministry
will you find: www.preach-in.de/content/category/5/17/42

BTW: Please send this message to everyone you know. Feel free to copy and
distribute it in your surroundings. Translate also in other languages where
applicable. We are God’s watchmen and must warn our fellow men, failing which
God will demand the blood of these men from our hands. (Ezekiel 3;16-21)

Also read Revelation 13,16-18. And he "forced everone".( to vaccinated,
and then give the mark too. etc.) I believe we live now in these days.
That will happen soon.

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I just got this link - this morning .
[link to www.theflucase.com]
[link to www.theflucase.com]
[link to www.ekathimerini.com]
[link to www.naturalnews.com]



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If you know someone who would like to receive these prophetic words,
please send their emails addresses to: pastor@matutis.de
God will richly bless you for this.
Anonymous Coward
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9/13/2009 12:53 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

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tempest
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9/14/2009 12:47 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

It has been on my heart lately concerning men who claim to be prophets of G-d.

They seem to focus on America's destruction. That's not a problem for me; the

book of Revelation chapters 17 and 18 to those of us who have eyes and hears to

perceive know that Babylon the Great is America. Judgement is coming.

My problem with these guys is the manner in which the judgement will be

carried out by our G-d.


These guys claim that they have visions that Judgement will be in stages.

That the judgement will be gradual and prolonged. That is not what the Word

indicates. In one hour will she be destroyed (Rev. 18:10). These "prophets"

also claim that christians will be in islands of safety in the states. Yet,

G-d clearly tells His people to come out of her before the judgement (Rev 18:4).


These guys have a great understanding of the Word. Their doctrine seems

sound and seasoned, but there is the discepancy of being legitimate prophets.

As far as I am concerned, there is not a prophet revealed to us at this moment.

Some people claim that the the office of prophet will be fulfilled by a number

of people working together as prophets. They reason in their minds that G-d

doesn't reveal all his knowledge to any single person. They form a club in a way.

Is it a voice in the wilderness or voices? John was a single voice.


The mantle of authority according to G-d's pattern is for one man and not many.

Though there were times when there were many prophets at one time in the

ancient past. Yet I believe that there is only one person bearing this burden

coming according to the Word. So for now it appears that we will be given

a door of escape and that a true prophet will come according to Isaiah and

Malachi.

another thought,

since the destruction of Babylon is sudden and the merchants are distraught
because there is no market for their wares, then may I conclude that
somehow America weathers this current situation and endures as an
economic powerhouse right up to its destruction?

perhaps the different movements of conservatives, reactionaries, and
modern day Christians will remove o. bama and his czars from office
and push back liberalism for a season. I imagine that they could even
claim a spiritual victory over evil. Yet, they would not give G-d the
glory and return to righteousness.

I say this because of the momentum of dissatisfaction by the middleclass
and growing unemployment of the millions. Something has to break and
the military may become involved in a domestic way if the president's
place of birth is revealed.

I know that its not a perfect scenario because the media, liberals in
congress, and courts would fight it to the death. However, Babylon is
still economically strong at the end to ellicit the responses it gets in
scripture.

Perhaps if this is a permanent downturn, then we are much much nearer
the end than I had thought. Then there wouldn't be a temporary return to
a robust economy and o. bama will preside over america's destruction.

So either we are at the very end of america and near the 70th week, or
there must be an economic upturn however long to keep america/babylon
strong just before judgement.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 727320
9/14/2009 12:57 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

August 28, 2009

My family lived on a ranch. I had been away from the ranch for a while and while I was gone there was an inner city underprivileged teenager who came to visit our ranch. He had never hunted and wanted to go hunting. A friend at the ranch, who was feeling compassion for the youth, lent him my high powered hunting rifle. This youth had no training or experience in hunting or shooting and did not know what he was doing. Instead of going out hunting, he went over to a corral where we kept a large, handsome, prize bull. He shot the bull. Not knowing what he was doing, he did not make a shot to the vital organs that would have made a quick clean kill. He shot it in the gut. It appeared that his shot inflicted a mortal wound but the bull was suffering a slow painful death. When I arrived on the scene, after my absence, I saw the bull lying in the corral on its side. It appeared to be dying slowly in much pain, trembling with its legs twitching. It was a pathetic sight. I became angry at the teenager for what he did and told him to shoot the bull in the head (because I felt it was the only humane thing to do at this point). The teen took aim but was such a poor shot he completely missed the bull. Frustrated at him I took the gun away from him. I noticed that he had really abused my gun. It had deep scratches on it in several places. I aimed at the bulls head but just as I was pulling the trigger, the bull morphed into a man! I had tried to hit the bull in the head but because it morphed into a man I missed. But I also felt horrible that I had just tried to shoot a wounded man in the head. I looked at this man lying in the corral. His body was bleeding and seemed mangled as if he had not only been shot but trampled. His intestines were spilled out on the ground. It was gruesome. He was bloody all over. Then the man began to pull himself together, sort of like the scarecrow did in the Wizard of Oz. It was supernatural! He put his guts back in himself. He was miraculously and almost instantaneously healed. He stood up and was about 95% healed. He looked a bit shaken and there was some blood and dust that remained on him but it was absolutely miraculous. Then he turned to walk toward me. I felt so bad that I had just tried to kill him and I was concerned (afraid) he was going to be very angry at me for shooting at him. As he walked toward me I saw that it was a man of God! This man was a former leader of a revival in America. As he walked up to me he put his teeth back in his mouth, wiped some blood from his face and was now 100% healed. He boldly and resolutely declared "I was NOT giving up to die. I was believing God for a miracle!" Then with love and tenderness he said "I forgive you". INTERPRETATION: I represented those in the church in the US who were absent from their moral and civic responsibility as salt and light. My friend who gave the teen my gun represented those who foolishly voted for Obama out of misguided compassion (for race issues, the poor, welfare, etc.) They gave the teenager (Obama) the power (gun). They wanted to give the poor or minorities a chance to do something they always wanted to do. However Obama has no real executive experience or training for what he is doing. Thinking he is hunting he is actually shooting the bull (The US and its economy). I knew the bull represented the US, its strength and also a healthy economy (bull market). What the Obama administration has done and is doing is like shooting the guts out of our nation (morally and economically). Obama was able to receive power (the gun) because there were those in the church (me) who were absent, not fulfilling their calling/responsibility to pray and be involved; to be salt and light. That left others to give him the gun (power). Some are already so hopeless because of what Obama is doing to destroy this nation that they have given up on the US already (ready to shoot the bull). I was made to know that the condition of the US is going to get much worse than it is. The US will be knocked down, seriously wounded in her "guts", bleeding and trembling, as if in the death throes. We will have lost our teeth (bite). At that point it will be obvious to all that the ONLY WAY THE U.S. WILL SURVIVE AS A NATION IS BY A MIRACLE OF GOD'S GRACE. The admonition from this dream is that when things get worse and look or seem hopeless, we are NOT TO GIVE UP!! WE ARE TO TRUST GOD FOR A MIRACLE OF HIS RESURRECTION GRACE IN THE US! It was a great bull that went down but the United States WILL RISE UP BY THE POWER OF GOD's GRACE as a man of God (a revival of holiness). We are not to lose heart but we are to agree with God's will for the U.S. and believe Him for revival/transformation and resurrection of the United States!

Pastor Jo Sweet
Lancaster CA
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 769652
9/14/2009 11:48 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

reply to tempest:

I appreciate your sharing your thoughtful comments. We agree that America is the Babylon of Revelations 18. The angel told prophet Dumitru Duduman that Rev 18, Jeremiah 50 and 51 spoke of the USA. Also, the description of Babylon in Rev 18 as being a great importer creating great wealth for other countries matches the USA who has made countries like Japan, Taiwan, North Korea, China and OPEC countries rich by buying their goods. The USA also fits the description of being a rich country that lives in luxury.

You are right in saying the destruction of Babylon America comes in one hour. This happens when the Russian subs of our east and west coast and nuke California, Las Vegas, New York and Florida. Then USA will be invaded by Russia from the east, China and Japan from west with other countries like Cuba, Mexico, Nicaragua helping out with the invasion. This is the ultimate judgment, getting nuked and invaded. It is in keeping with Yahweh's character to be merciful and to let some judgment come beforehand so that the nation might understand it has sinned against the Most High Elohim and repent. After the first year of Chuck Youngbrandt's 3 year scene that ultimately leads to the nuking of the USA, there will be no questioning we have entered the last few years of judgment on America with economic/dollar/stock market collapse, involved in a Middle East war, North Korea invading South Korea, China invading Taiwan and some US cities getting hit with nukes. It can be compared to a woman in birth pains - as we get closer to that hour of destruciton, the judgments will become more frequent and more severe. Can we not agree that America is already being judged with New Orleans being judged for it's witchcraft through Katrina, New York city being judged for sexual immorality and greed by 9/11 and banking problems and stock market fall, the dollar falling in value for the last 9 years taking away our purchasing power, manufacturing leaving the country for decades now, our nation, people and corporations getting deeper and deeper into debt, fires in California, tornadoes and floods in the Midwest? Are all of these not judgments on America for it's sin of homosexuality, abortions, divorce, forsaking the covenant with Yahweh? If so then the judgments have been indeed been gradual and prolonged so that people might come to repentance but His own people do not even recognize Yahweh's judgements. There will be no national repentance, but people can repent. Yahweh has been patient and long-suffering. So you are right when you say the destruction occurs in one hour and the prophets are right when they say the judgment is gradual and prolonged in keeping with Yahweh's mercy and long-suffering.

Quoting Tom Deckard prophecy:
"This nation has become a stench in the nostrils of G-d and it is too late to turn His judgment back. G-d’s spirit will no longer strive with America and America is in for a long, hard fall. I realize this is not what people want to hear, but this is what the L-rd is saying.

America, prepare thyself to receive the judgments of your G-d. I gave thee of the fatness of the land and put strength within thee to overcome nations and kingdoms. But you now think that it was something that you have done within yourselves to have accomplished these things. Woe unto you and your mighty men of valor. For I the L-rd G-d shall bring to nought your strength and ability to overcome. It is I the L-rd G-d that does bring forth kings and nations and it is I that tears them down. You have become an abomination to me. Your priests and seers are as sleeping dogs that have refused to repent and seek me with a whole heart. They minister for their own gain. I the L-rd G-d will bring them to nought and turn them over to believe a lie. I will cause the storms, earthquakes, and floods to become stronger and more frequent. I will send a sword through the land and will cause families to be at odds one to another, killing and being killed. Tumult will be throughout the land and your streets will run with blood. Famine will I send in the land and you will watch as your children die from hunger. I tried over and over again to reason with you o’ nation, but you would have me not. We will now see as you have thought to have become your own god if you can deliver these people in their time of trouble. I will laugh at you and call you a foolish nation. You have forsaken the Living G-d and I have now forsaken you. You will know in the end that I am the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. I was in the beginning and so shall I be in the end.

These are not things that are going to take place overnight. It will transpire very slowly as it already has; seemingly as though there has been nothing take place. This nation has become accustomed to all the storms, earthquakes, fires, floods, and everything else that the L-rd has sent to try to get the attention of the church and this nation.

The days that lie ahead for the United States and the world are going to become very trying times. The church is slipping deeper and deeper into a coma from which only a remnant will awaken. It is this remnant that will do the great exploits in these last days.

We must keep the faith and not be drawn into the snare that is now set for all mankind.
"


I am glad that you see that their doctrine is sound. You say that there are no legitimate prophets at this time. You are entitled to your opinions and to make your own judgments on things, but it would be more valuable to me and others in the forum if you offered proof that these are not prophets such as showing that a prophet teaches false doctrine, leads people to false gods and away from Yahweh, or that their prophecies did not come to pass. But if you cannot provide such information why be so staunch that there are no prophets at this time? Some believe, and I don't know if you do, that there are no prophets today. Yet Yahweh is clear that he does nothing without revealing his secrets to His prophets. Yahweh puts not time conditions saying this will only happen in the Old Testament times or during the times of the 12 apostles. There are prophets in the New Testament such as the one that warned Paul of the dangers that he faced if he went to Jerusalem. Yahweh says His church is based on the apostles and the prophets so they must still exist today, unfortunately, the church does not seek them, recognize them nor accept them.

Each prophet sits in the office of a prophet. There are many prophets and apostles, not just one. And each apostle holds the office of apostle. I have said that Yahweh has not told every prophet everything. Why do I say this? Look at Scipture. There are prophecies about Messiah there. Did one prophet get all the prophecies about Messiah? We have Isiah telling us alot about Messiah in Isiah 53 but we have Michah telling us about how he comes from Bethlehem. In the Scriptures we have both Daniel and John, writer of Revelations telling us about the anti-christ. Daniel does not mention that the anti-christ will implement the Mark of the Beast. Likewise, Daniel tells us some things of the antichrist that you don't find in Revelations. When I examined the prophecies concerning the judgments on America I found the same principle at work. Some prophets get alot of the overall judgments on America. For instance, the Sarah Hoffman vision is rather all encompassing and gives some order of the events, Tom Deckard gives practically all the judgments but does not give order of events or timing, likewise Amos Scaggs has many of the judgments to come as does Gail Smith. But only Thomas Gibson tells us we war will come upon us by 2010 and only E.R. Lindsey gives us the prophetic signs that will come to pass one year before the great California earthquake and only Chuck Youngbrandt tells us that 37 days after the great New Madrid earthquake the Russian subs will nuke coastal cities, Matthew Stephens has America judged by 2013 (18 years from June 1994 plus 3 6 month delays). So once again many prophets prophesy about an event and some are given unique information not given to the others.

These prophets do not form a club though many prophets have been featured in the Prophecy Club. Robert Holmes, an Australian prophet has said that in his experience prophets are rather solitary people avoiding the company of others by nature. He's worked hard to get the prophets together in Australia. I would have to concur with his assessment. Prophets tend to be rather private persons to a large degree I suspect because their thoughts and the spiritual/mental world they live in is so different than those of others.

You are right in saying we are promised Elijah. This is a dual fulfillment prophecy since John the Baptist is an Elijah type and yet we will have another Elijah type coming in the power and spirit of Elijah. I wonder if we would recognize him if we met him.

As far as what is to come, the prophets are clear that we will have an economic collapse, dollar collapse, real estate collapse, civil war coming from the middle of the country, riots, martial law, concentration camps, a mark of the beast implementation, obama will be assassinated or removed from office and he will be the last elected president of the USA, war in the middle east with Israel vs Iran where we get involved, North Korea invading South Korea, China invading Taiwan, tsuanmis hitting the East and Gulf Coast because of some meteors, great New Madrid earthquake that wipes out Chicago and divides the country along the Mississippi river for America trying to divide Israel and Jerusalem with a Palestinian state, a great California earthquake where everything west of San Andreas fault goes into the ocean, Russian subs nuking California, Las Vegas, New York and Florida, invasion from west by China and Japan, from east by Russia and from south by Cuba, Mexico, Nicaragua and possibly others, seven years of foreign occupation until like Nebuchadnezzar we acknowledge the Most High Elohim, followed by winning the war with national repentance, a godly leader, a new invention and angelic help.

Just because the USA gets nuked does not mean we have entered the 70th week. I suspect the seals and trumpets occur over a much longer period than 7 years, probably decades, but also believe we are in the end-times probably at most decades away from Yahshuah's return. If you are looking to leave Babylon America, look into Tom Deckard. He's the only one I know of claiming to be called of Yahweh to lead Ephraim out of the USA and as far as I've examined, he's kosher.
bingbong
User ID: 768979
9/14/2009 11:55 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

slow down my friend, we're okay. we're gonna be alright.
Those that have chosen, have chosen. those that yet haven't....they'll prevail in the end.
Tempest
User ID: 758580
9/14/2009 9:54 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

I am very open to the concept of there being prophets of
G-d on the earth now. The problem is weeding through all
the false ones to get the real thing. Here is an example
of what a real prophet of G-d will not say:
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Maybe Three Years

November 29, 1996

As I was laying in my hospital bed, looking over the faces of my family, three men appeared beside me. One had a globe in his hand, and he began to rotate it and point out certain countries saying: "This is where the destruction will come from." I don't remember all the places he pointed to, but I remember I saw Mexico, Cuba, and the Alaskan border. Then one of the men spoke to me; "we fought against dearth for you. It was a hard fight. Do not fear you will not leave. You still have work to do."

Suddenly, 3 stars appeared behind them. One of them asked; "Do you know what that means?"

"No" I answered.

"We won't say exactly, but it probably means that in another 3 years a great massacre will occur." Then the stars turned into blood, and everything disappeared

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I won't even begin to tear this nonsense apart.

The Word declares a five-fold ministry to the body of
Messiah. The prophets may be out there, but so far I
have not found them. But I'll keep looking. That is why
I poke around forums like this. I find your material
very interesting and I am actively researching these
prophetic people who have listed.

I am aware that their theology does not have to be
perfect. None of us have it perfectly right...yet.
As long as they declare Yeshua is G-d in the flesh
and that He is our salvation through His sacrifice,
death, and resurection. And a few other things, then
I will give them serious consideration.

There are many other mysteries of the Word which
have not been revealed to the whole body at this
time. There are a few who have been broken enough
by Him to receive and understand. We do not deserve
His small revelations; He is not a respecter of
persons to be sure. However, some He selects for
offices in the Body. Others He has made known His
will concern certain issues.

Here is one mystery: some He has chosen to be vessels
of honor and others He has chosen to be vessels of
dishonor. What does this mean to you? Are you broken
enough to receive it. Within it is life and real
freedom. Not the fleshly freedom we claim is our
American right. Here is another mystery of the Word:
why are we here? To receive it you must be broken
by Him. It is not pleasant and it will cost you
everything to understand it and walk in it.

It is issues like this that reveal the heart of
a true servant of Messiah. In the context of this
message thread, the prophet is especially marked
by brokeness, humility, and justness. Such a person
will be misunderstood by many and hated by some.
Mercy is in the heart of a prophet yet there is
a mandate to speak the truth regardless of what
people think. A true prophet will fully ackowledge
his weakness and has no confidence in the flesh.

I would dare say that most christians would like
to destroy a true prophet in character even his
life.

I am waiting for the mantle of Elijah to be placed
upon a broken man. Many from the jews and christians
will rail against him. And G-d will back him up
with signs and miracles. I imagine even incidents
akin to Annanias and Saphira or the leprosy that
Miram experienced will take place under the serious
annointing of the one who will make straight the paths.
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/15/2009 8:58 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

I like your spirit Tempest. I'd be open to communicating with you privately but don't know how to go about doing that without giving everyone my info. It's important that the focus be on the message and not the messenger.

Though we do disagree on whether Dumitru Duduman was a prophet apparently. The prophecy given was from Dumitru Duduman just so everyone knows. Duduman suffered greatly having passed bibles into Russia. He was arrested by either Russian or Romanian police, put in cell with rats, electrocuted twice in an electric chair twice if I recall correctly but survived each time. I've seen youtube videos of him and you can sense the humility of the man because of the suffering he went through. As for the prophetic response of "maybe three more years" I can understand your concern because it seems wishy-washy. Here's my take: 3 years from 1996 would be 1999. Perhaps that was the time we were to be judged but Yahweh gave us an extension of time to repent as a nation. Matthew Stephen has said that America was given extra time but did not repent and that's why it's going to get a DOUBLE JUDGEMENT - two earthquakes, two assasinations etc. At this point though we are past the point of no return, judgment has been set when Yahweh prophesied through Thomas Gibson that the war would begin between 2005 and 2010. In His mercy, He has delayed already 4 years but we are coming to the point that there will be no more delay as we come near the end of 2010.

Revelation 18:6
Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

It's interesting that Yahweh also doubled the judgment of Judah when He sent Nebuchadnezzar to attack and exile Judah to Babylon.

Jeremiah 16:18
And first I will recompense their iniquity and their sin double; because they have defiled my land, they have filled mine inheritance with the carcases of their detestable and abominable things.

Jeremiah 17:18 (King James Version)
18Let them be confounded that persecute me, but let not me be confounded: let them be dismayed, but let not me be dismayed: bring upon them the day of evil, and destroy them with double destruction.

I'd like to hear your revelation regarding the mysteries you presented. I understand if you wish to not share them in a public forum. More and more I understand why Yahshua spoke in parables so that "seeing they would remain unbelieving". Let those who do good continue to do good, let those who are evil continue to do evil and let those who are unclean continue to be unclean. Those who are appointed to famine will die by famine, those appointed to the plague will die by the plague, those appointed to the sword will die by the sword.

You have the spirit of a truth seeker and he who seeks shall find. I am glad I have helped you.

I think I finally have learned how to embed youtube videos. Here I go...


Prophet Tom Deckard On Bird Flu, End Times & Bible Prophecy




Prophet Tom Deckard: A Prophet Of God To The Nations




Prophet Tom Deckard: The Prophet Who Foretold The Coming Bird Flu




Are you Ephraim? Gd has the answer! (b)



Shalom!
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/15/2009 2:29 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Warning Message to Babylon-America
Truly Inspired Prophetic Message through Steven Crowder (1998)


This is a truly inspired message from Yahweh given through Steven Crowder. Please listen to it!











Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 762096
9/16/2009 11:42 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

The Eternal Security Heresy

A thousand years or so after Moses had given the Torah, Yahshuah ha'Maschiach came to earth and saw that the purity of the faith had been corrupted. He rebuked the Pharisees for replacing Yahweh's law with the traditions of men such as when the Pharisees allowed someone to make a gift unto Yahweh to release himself from helping his parents and thus not honoring his parents and violating the commandments of Yahweh. Yahshuah corrected them when he said it was acceptable to heal and do good on the Sabbath. The Pharisees falsely accused Yahshuah's disciples of violating the Sabbath when they gleaned from the fields because the Pharisees added man's teachings to Yahweh's word. Yahshuah corrected the Sadducees' belief that there was no resurrection when he told them Yahweh was the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Israel and that Yahweh was the Elohim of the living and not the dead. Yahshuah rebuked Israel for not knowing the signs of the time, when the Messiah would visit them, because they did not understand the concept of the suffering servant Isaiah had prophesied about in Isaiah 53.

Flash forward two thousand years after Yahshuah ha'Mashiach's first coming and do we now also see the corruption of the faith? What would Yahshuah warn this generation about? How would he rebuke the leaders of the organized church now? This is what I believe: He would rebuke the polytheism of the pagans and show them Yahweh, the one and only true Elohim, the Elohim of Abraham. He would counsel the Ishmaelites/Arabs/Muslims to stop persecuting Israel, who are the descendants of their half-brother Isaac because it displeases their father Abraham. He would teach the Muslims to follow the Elohim of Abraham who is Yahweh and not Allah.

Yahshuah would rebuke the so called priesthood of the Catholics for allowing themselves to be called 'Father' when Yahweh is the Father of the faithful. He would rebuke the Catholic priesthood for denying the priesthood of all believers, for allowing the laity to consult the dead (which Torah forbids) when they pray to passed away saints, for allowing the laity to bow down before statues of saints which cannot hear, talk, move nor save, for performing infant baptism rather than baptism after believing, for mixing pagansim and the true faith, for teaching the Immaculate Conception of Mary and thus denying that 'all have sinned', for teaching that Mary is the intercessor between man and an angry Yahshuah when Yahshuah is the only intercessor between man and the just and loving Yahweh, for torturing and murdering believers and Jews during the Inquisition, for destroying many in the Crusades because of their lust for Jerusalem, which will be a stumbling block unto the nations, for siding with the Nazis in World War II and not protecting the Jews and for allowing the Jesuits to run rampant causing havoc wherever they go. For all this and much more, the Catholic Church (which I believe is the Great Whore of Babylon spoken of in Revelations) will be punished severely.

Yahshuah would rebuke the leaders of Protestanism who have not completely done away with the leaven of their mother, the Catholic Church. Yahshuah would rebuke Protestantism for following three of the eight witches Sabbatts, albeit in modified form. (Christmas is based on the Roman Saturnalia and Yule and celebrates the birth of the sun god. Halloween is based on the Druid Samhain festival. Easter is based on the Wiccan Ostara festival which celebrates the fertility goddess Ishtar and the resurrection of her lover Tammuz.) Yahshuah would rebuke Protestanism for not following the Sabbath which is from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset but rather replacing it with Sunday, the 'day of the sun', the day which pagan sun-worshippers have used as their day of worship. He would rebuke Protestanism for not keeping the festivals and appointed times of Yahweh, which include the weekly Sabbath, the Passover, the Feast of Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles when it is clear in the Scriptures than many if not all of these are eternal ordinances. He would correct Protestant leaders who teach that those festivals are for the Jews who are under the old covenant but not for Christians who are under the new covenant by teaching them that even the new covenant was given to the house of Judah and the house of Israel (Jeremiah 31:31) thus you have no part in the new covenant unless you are grafted into the house of Judah/Israel and thus are also accountable to the old covenant as the house of Judah/Israel. Yahshuah would rebuke Protestantism which says the law/Torah is dead when he said “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:17-19 KJV). He would rebuke the Protestant church for allowing the evil men, Westcott and Hort, to introduce corrupt texts for the New Testament that teach that Joseph was the father of Yahshuah and not Yahweh, that teach that it is sin to be angry when Yahshuah, the spotless lamb was angry with cause, that teach that speaking truth which is divisive is wrong when Yahshuah and the prophets spoke truths that were divisive. He would rebuke Protestantism for allowing Bibles that are not Bibles, which allude to Satan as the morning star when Yahshuah is the Morning Star. (Compare Isaiah 14:12 NIV which refers to Satan as the morning star and Revelations 22:16 which says Yahshuah is the Morning Star.) Yahshuah would rebuke the Protestant church for losing the truths of the faith and thus being splintered off into endless denominations because true unity is only found in the unity of the truth.

Yahshuah would rebuke Protestant leaders who have allowed the apostate Darby and Scoffield to lead them astray in the doctrine of pre-tribulation rapture. (How can the rapture be before the tribulation when 1 Corinthians 15:52 tells us the rapture occurs at the last trump which is when Yahshuah ha'Maschiach returns to earth to establish His Kingdom? In Revelation 20;4-5 we see that the saints who were beheaded because they did not worship the beast nor take his mark partake of the first resurrection, yet the first resurrection happens before the rapture since 'the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air' (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV). So if the rapture is before the tribulation, how can the last trump be before the tribulation and how can the first resurrection be before the tribulation?) Yahshuah would rebuke the Protestant leaders for being unequally yoked with the government, in agreements they have made to lead the sheep astray into taking the mark of the beast and leading them to death and suffering in so called 'labor camps' which are in reality concentration camps. (What will happen if a nuke goes off in America? Prophet Tom Deckard has already prophesied that about 20 nukes have been sneaked into the U.S.. I suspect the government will tell the pastors to tell the congregations to take the Verichip/RFID chip in their right hand and forehead because of the threat of terrorism. Pastors will in turn deceive the sheep telling them that this is not the mark of the beast and to obey the government and many foolish sheep will do so since they will say 'We can't be in the tribulation because I would have been raptured away before the tribulation, so this can't be the mark of the beast. I will follow my pastor and obey the government'. And in so doing they will disobey Yahweh and Yahshuah ha'Maschiach and be subject to torment for taking the mark of the beast. And their fate will be sealed since I suspect the chip will use ELF technology to control the minds of those who take the mark of the beast.)

And to these sins add the failure of the Protestant leaders to consistently and loudly warn against the apostasy of the prosperity gospel (Joel Osteen), gosepel of self-esteem (Robet Schuller), false prophets (Benny Hinn), those who unequally yoke themselves with government and business (Rick Warren), those who unequally yoke themselves with the Catholic Church (Billy Graham), those who would lead you back to Rome and the auspices of the Catholic Church (Chuck Colson and partakers of 'Evangelicals and Catholics Together'). Yahshuah would rebuke those Protestant leaders who have not sought to uncover and warn about wolves in sheep's clothing and who have themselves unequally yoked themselves with these wolves.

And now add to all this, the heresy of teaching 'once saved, always saved' which is also known as the Eternal Security heresy. We know that everyone who is saved has their name written in the Book of Life (Revelation 20:15, Revelation 21:27). So if it's true that 'once saved, always saved' then that implies once one is saved their name is written in the Book of Life and it can never be removed since they will always remain saved. So why may I ask you does Yahshuah talk about not blotting names out in the Book of Life in Revelations 3:5 if that could never be done?

Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 21:27
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

It is important to Yahweh that you finish well that you be not disqualified. The faith that Yahweh is looking for is an enduring, continuing and persevering faith, not a one time faith! Consider what He says in Ezekial 18.

Ezekiel 18:23-29 (King James Version)
23Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
24But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
25Yet ye say, The way of the LORD is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
26When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.
27Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
28Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
29Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the LORD is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?

You are a disciple of Yahshuah if you continue in His word, that means, and on-going, persistent, enduring faithfulness.

John 8:30-32 (King James Version)
30As he spake these words, many believed on him.
31Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

We are to take sinning wilfully very seriously and need to repent quickly and sincerely. A willful, unrepentant person who has received the knowledge of the truth ought to expect the judgment of Yahweh.

Hebrews 10:26-31 (King James Version)
26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Consider what Paul says in Galatians 5:19-21: even heresy can keep one from entering the kingdom of God. Titus 3:10 tells us to warn a heretic once, twice and then have nothing to do with them. This heresy may keep many a Protestant pastor and many Protestants themselves from entering into the kingdom of God so please take it seriously and warn others who believe in it.

Galatians 5:19-21 (King James Version)
19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Titus 3:10 (King James Version)
10A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

I am thankful to have come across this argument for the Eternal Security Heresy at:
[link to www.repentnow.com]
The argument was taken from that article.

Some will use John 10:27-29 to argue that once saved, always saved. But consider that this verse is about those that follow Yahshuah and is spoken in the present tense. Those who wilfully sin and do not repent are not following Yahshuah.

John 10:27-29 (King James Version)
27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

The verse beow is also used sometimes to defend the eternal security doctrine but notice that it does not say that one's wilfull, unrepentant sinning will not keep us from the love of God.

Romans 8:35-39 (King James Version)
35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Those who use the verse below to support the eternal security doctrine, fail to recognize that one is kept by God THROUGH FAITH and wilfull unrepentant disobedience is not faith.

1 Peter 1:5 (King James Version)
5Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Those who use the verse below to support the eternal security doctrine, fail to see that those who wilfully disobey without repentance are not coming to Yahshuah but turning away from him.

John 6:37 (King James Version)
37All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

I recommend going to the link below for further refutation of the eternal security doctrine.
[link to www.eternalsecurity.us]

Let us be faithful then unto death that we may receive the crown of life.

So history has repeated itself: just as Israel went astray a thousand years after Moses gave the Torah, so the organized church has fallen away two thousand years after Yahshuah came and taught. After all, it has been prophesied that there would be a falling away of the church at the end (2 Thessalonians 2:3). And just like the earth was destroyed by water, it will now be destroyed by fire. And just as Yahweh saved Noah and his family through the flood, Yahweh will again save a remnant through the tribulation (not from it by a pre-trib rapture). There's always a remnant: even during the time of Elijah when Ahab and Jezebel led Israel astray into Baal worship, Yahweh reserved for Himself seven thousand who had not bowed the knee to Baal (1 Kings 19:18). I wonder how many people were in Israel at that time and what percentage got saved. Yahshuah said "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." (Matthew 7:14) I've heard that in a marketing campaign one can expect about a 3% response rate. Yahweh has the best offer around: "Eternal life with Yahweh, the Elohim of truth and love, reigning with Yahshuah, in an incorruptible body and no more tears for the old order of things has passed away", yet I wonder if the response rate to the gospel is any better. Yet the Spirt still hearkens "bring down the high places, destroy the Asherah poles and temples, come with a pure heart and clean hands and make straight paths for the coming of the Lord".
Watchman of Yahweh
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9/17/2009 2:10 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Roger Morneau: A Trip Into The Supernatural

Please see the 8 part youtube playlist below.
It's on Roger Morneau's trip into the supernatural.

















I often learn much by hearing the testimony of those who have left occult secret societies such as Bill Schnoebelen and John Todd or insiders who warn such as Dr. Richard Day. Roger Morneau was invited to a seance by his friend and was later invited to join an occult secret society where Satan and demon spirits were worshipped. Roger was told that if he worshipped these spirits they would give him powers to be wealthy and famous. For instance, to entice him, Roger was given the ability to pick horse race winners with uncanny accuracy. He was so accurate that he was ultimately banned from betting on horse races. He saw typewriters typing by themselves (i.e. demon spirits were typing on them) that were writing up briefs/contracts for a lawyer who was a member of the occult society. This lawyer made about six figures back around the 1940's when a dollar was worth something.

Roger was of course lied to, in that he was told Lucifer and his angels still had the same beautiful form they had before they were expelled from heaven. The Scriptures tell us that Satan can shapeshift into an angel of light so this deception is quite easy to foist upon the gullible. Roger was also told that Yahshuah ha'Maschiach would return to earth to take his own but would leave Satan and his followers as rulers of this earth. This of course is another lie since Yahshuah ha'Maschiach will return to earth and will rule as King of Kings and Lord of Lords and Satan, his fallen angels and followers of Satan will be cast into the lake of fire.

Roger though was also given some interesting insights. He was told that during the seance, people were not communicating with the dead, but rather demonic familiar spirits were impersonating the dead with great accuracy in voice impersonation and knowledge of the dead person's life. We are commanded in Deuteronomy not to communicate with the dead. He was told that people have been decieved into thinking man's soul is immortal so they might be tempted like Catholics to communicate with the dead. Scripture agrees with this because in Ezekial, it tells us that the soul that sins is the soul that will die (except of course those souls redeemed by Yahshuah ha'Maschiach). So there is such a thing as the death of the soul. I believe, the second death which unbelievers experience but which the elect are spared from is the death of the soul. The first death being of course the death of the physical body.

Roger was also told by the Luciferian high priest that when people worship on Sunday regardless of whom they worship, Lucifer receives homage, since Sunday is the day Lucifer chose for himself while Saturday (or more accurately Friday sunset to Saturday sunset Sabbath) is the day Yahweh chose for Himself. History confirms that pagans have traditionally worshipped on Sunday. Emperor Constantine who established the Roman Catholic Church was a pagan sun worshipper and established that people should not work on the "venerable day of the sun" that is, Sunday. Since that time Catholics and Protestants have worshipped on Sunday. Scripture is quite clear that we are to remember the Sabbath, which is the seventh day of the week, not the first day of the week. Roger was told that Lucifer especially hates Seventh Day Adventists since they keep the true Sabbath (and I'm sure all others who do likewise) and that these people are to a great degree exempted from Satan's other deception since Yahweh honors them for keeping His Sabbath.

Roger was told that anyone who tries to leave the occult secret society is killed one way or another, by demon spirits arranging accidents or by assasination. Roger had some qualms about being initiated yet was afraid of dying if he left. By Yahweh's providence, he met at work a man named Ciril who was a Seventh Day Adventist. Since Roger new the secret society had a great respect for the Adventists, he asked Ciril to teach him the Bible. Ciril and his wife lead him through 28 Bible studies in one week and Roger gained faith that Yahweh could rescue him from the mess he was in. Roger placed his faith in Yahweh and chose not to be initiated into the secret society. Roger was told a $10,000 contract was going to be placed on his life for not following through with the Luciferic initiation but he was faithful to Yahweh. It's interesting that John Todd also said that $10,000 contracts were placed on people's lives who left the occult. This is an awesome testimony of how Yahweh can rescue people from the claws of Satan.

Roger was also told by the Luciferian high priest, Satan's plans of deception. Roger wsa told that Satan wanted people to not believe that Satan or fallen angels exist because if you do not believe they exist then you will not be on guard for their deception. I think it's quite clear that most people in the world have fallen for this deception, led by atheist, communists and philosophers such as Nietzsche who declared "God is dead". Satan also wanted people to have no regard for the Bible. Satan's plan was to push the theory of evolution through Charles Darwin so when they read in Genesis that Yahweh is the Creator they would consider it a fairy tale and lose respect for the Bible by considering it some sort of mythology. Well, it's clear Satan has succeeded in this deception also. Despite the flaws in the theory of evolution such as the missing links, that most genetic mutations are harmful, and the miracle of reproduction where man and woman independently evolved to be perfect mates for having children, evolution is still regarded to this day as proven science rather than a flawed hypothesis. Satan also wanted to establish a plan for mind controlling people. It's quite clear that people have been dumbed down through flouride in water and in toothpaste and possibly other chemicals such as mercury in vaccines and MSG. Satan also planned on hypnotizing people to control them. Television and movies have been used to place people's mind in a hypnotic state where they are open to suggestion. Since people's brain operate in a extremely low frequency, there already may be technology to telepathically communicate with them. Of course Satan already came up with Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) where someone is traumatically abused so that their personality spinters into different alters which are then programmed through hypnotism and demonic control. So it's clear, Satan is close to completing this goal although I bet he still wants to chip us with his mark of the beast which may be used for mind control. Another Satanic deception that Roger was warned about was that demons would come pretending to be aliens from far away planets who have come here to stop us from destroying ourselves. So beware of Pleidians and greys bearing gifts. It was also revealed to Roger that Satan planned on having governments pass a "Sunday law" which legally required people to go to church or observe Sunday, Satan's chosen day. Yahweh's people will not comply with this law just as they did not comply with Constantine's edict to rest on Sunday. I hope you found this informative as I did. Please watch the 8 part video series (10 min per part for a total 1 hr 20 minutes).
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 770720
9/17/2009 11:33 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Wow, Its so funny how people dont get this. FEAR OF SATAN IS WORSHIP OF HIM. Satan has no power over righteousness.(Kharma) God MADE satan to TEACH human beings. What you call "worship" of satan is "acknowledging that satan is part of god". This gives you great power, if you misuse the power, it will misuse you. Jesus represents all humanity, the "king of kings, and lord of lords". Everyone exists within "Jesus" which is actually perfected Adam. Adam caused first sin, and Jesus erased it, and the period we are in now is the "evening" of that sacrifice. All of these predictions are absolutely ridiculous. They are grounded in a false fear of the future. Prophecy does not work for the fearful. Spaceship earth has docked, and we are just slowly waking up to this reality.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 773330
9/18/2009 12:55 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

I've come to the understanding that the vatican is behind everything. you really just have to open your eyes to see the faces that really repel. America has evil looking people but no face that i have seen is as sinister as his..
would you agree?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 773330
9/18/2009 12:58 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Wow, Its so funny how people dont get this. FEAR OF SATAN IS WORSHIP OF HIM. Satan has no power over righteousness.(Kharma) God MADE satan to TEACH human beings. What you call "worship" of satan is "acknowledging that satan is part of god". This gives you great power, if you misuse the power, it will misuse you. Jesus represents all humanity, the "king of kings, and lord of lords". Everyone exists within "Jesus" which is actually perfected Adam. Adam caused first sin, and Jesus erased it, and the period we are in now is the "evening" of that sacrifice. All of these predictions are absolutely ridiculous. They are grounded in a false fear of the future. Prophecy does not work for the fearful. Spaceship earth has docked, and we are just slowly waking up to this reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 770720



yes, we, are waking up or already awoken, but what's it gonna take for the rest em (us,of course).
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 773330
9/18/2009 1:04 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

and why are the majority of people attracted to dates and prophecies here? we're waiting. we know we are
we know we will be something else, entirely.
have you ever witnessed so much doom in any other year prior?
god be with you
Shalom
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 728173
9/18/2009 1:23 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

all bs , no one will EVER being fighting on american soil , period , we would nuke the world first abomb
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717787


dude did you read all that shit?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 773669
9/18/2009 1:34 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

lmao

Why is never a good doom for tomorrow or next week ??

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Thank you so much for your summary. Here is what will go on the timeline.

2010/??/?? : economic collapse (stock market crash, dollar devaluation, economic collapse
2009/12/31 : bird flu will become air-born and become global pandemic killing millions; another plague follows
2010/??/?? : riots, civil war in US
2010/??/?? : Arabs fighting on US soil
2010/??/?? : US/Israel at war in Middle East probably against Iran
2010/??/?? : North Korea attacks South Korea with US supporting South Korea
2010/??/?? : Japan makes treaty with China
2010/??/?? : China invades Taiwan with US supporting Taiwan
2010/??/?? : Bush Jr. shot, Obama assassinated and never finishes term, French president Sarkozy assassination. Obama will be last US president of US constitutional republic
2010/01/01 : World War 3 (US vs Russia/China)
2010/??/?? : 3 signs happen simultaneously EXACTLY ONE YEAR BEFORE great California earthquake 1) great Australian earthquake 2) Mediterranean volcano erupts causing a major tidal wave 3) minor California earthquake cracks walls of Los Angeles and San Francisco city halls
2011/??/?? : great California earthquake where land west of San Andreas fault falls into ocean causing world-wide tsunamis
2011/??/?? : Great Madrid fault earthquake in Midwest with Great Lakes pouring into Midwest possibly flowing to Gulf of Mexico
2011/??/?? : after China invades Taiwan and great California earthquake, Russian subs nuke east and west coast US cities followed by land invasion (Rev. 18)
2011/??/?? : China and Japan invade from west, Russia invades from east including Alaska; Mexico, Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela invade from South
2012/??/?? :one third of world population dies because of California and other earthquakes, tsunamis, WW3 and aftermath
2012/??/?? : after WW3, antichrist arises from Syria and world starts to rebuild
2015/??/?? : at the middle of tribulation antichrist declares world-wide martial law and enforces mark of beast
2016/??/?? : the two witnesses are persecuted for not taking mark of beast, slain in great city and raised after 3 days
2019/??/?? : 3.5 years later Yahshua comes to gather his elect (i.e. the rapture), save Israel at Armageddon and establish His kingdom

2010/??/?? : I suspect we will see the next 9/11 with at least three US cities having explosions (possibly tactical nukes),
2012/??/?? : Much of America's judgment will be complete
2009/12/31 : Serious economic collapse.

If you have any corrections, let me know.

Your doom has been approved.

It will be listed on the timeline of doom [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

could you put it in chronological order? baffle
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9/18/2009 3:09 PM
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Dr. Richard Day: Confessions of a NWO Insider

There are many who throughout history have warned about efforts to manipulate, control and enslave mankind. Consider George Orwell, who in his famous work "1984" warned about government control and propaganda known as "newspeak". Orwell was not a stranger to such government efforts to control and manipulate the media since he was involved with Merry Christmas. [1] Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" was another warning of the enslavement through conditioning and mind control of mankind. [2] Aldous had connections with Fabian Socialists and his brother Julian was into eugenics which may have provided Aldous insight into the Luciferian conspiracy mentioned in the Bible to enslave mankind. [3] H.G. Wells wrote "New World Order" and "The Open Conspiracy: Blue Prints for a World Revolution". All these have warned of the coming of a Luciferian New World Order where man is cleverly and willingly enslaved. It seems if you remove true history and replace it with propaganda then people cannot learn from their past mistakes, if you control the media and repeatedly tell lies then people will believe the lies, if you manufacture terrorism and wars people will gladly give up their freedom for order, if you dumb down people with a poor education then they will be unaware of their enslavement, if you condition people to entertainment and circus they will gladly choose watching a baseball game to learning how to be free. It seems the human mind prefers the deception of pleasant lies and the enslavement of the status quo rather than undergo a difficult paradigm shift to embrace truth and hidden history. This is why my prognosis is not good, indeed, it has already been prophesied that the world will be deceived and enslaved by the lawless one, except for the elect of Yahweh, who are faithful and true till the end.

And there is one more insider who warned. Dr. Richard Day was an insider of the cabal as president of Planned Parenthood. The New World Order (NWO) folks are into population control or rather depopulation so it's not surprising Dr. Richard Day would be involved with the NWO. On March 20, 1969, Dr. Richard Day gave a talk to other fellow doctors and seemingly out of a guilty conscience unveiled the plans of the New World Order. Dr. Lawrence Dunnegan heard the talk and related it later in 1988. I recommend you read the following three links/tapes. It's rather long so you may choose to read my summary of it along with some of my thoughts.

Transcripts of Three Tapes where Dr. Lawrence Dunnegan descibes what Dr. Richard Day said
[link to www.sweetliberty.org]
[link to www.sweetliberty.org]
[link to www.sweetliberty.org]

Summary and excerpts of Dr. Richard Day's message as remembered by Dr. Lawrence Dunnegan: (my thoughts in parenthesis)
- there is a powerful group that is orchestrating changes in society
"We plan to enter the 21st Century with a running start. Everything is in place and nobody can stop us now . . ."
"Some of you will think I'm talking about Communism. Well, what I'm talking about is much bigger than Communism!"
- there will be constant change
"People will have to get used to the idea of change, so used to change, that they'll be expecting change. Nothing will be permanent."
- real and stated goals; the stated goals are not always the real goals
"People are too trusting. People don't ask the right questions."
(this is known as the hegelian dialectic: thesis plus antithesis equals synthesis)
(also known as creating a problem to get a reaction to propose your solution; sometimes referred to as creating order out of chaos)
(example: manufacture terror, people become afraid and government proposes protecting you with war and taking your freedoms away)
- NWO wants population control: stated reason is lack of food and resources and over-pollution
people will need to have permission to have babies
there will be sex without reproduction; contraceptives available to all
sexual desire is so strong that sex will be encouraged without having babies
there will reproduction without sex (i.e. cloning)
sex education in schools will be used to retrain youth
there will be tax funded abortion (implies power to choose supreme court judges and control/influence presidents)
(prediction of legalized abortion came true in early 1970's)
"People will be given permission to be homosexual." (repeal of anti-sodomy laws, legalizing sodomite marriage)
- Clothing styles would be made more stimulating and provocative.
- Families to Diminish in Importance
new divorce laws make divorce easier (i.e. no fault divorce)
lot's of relocation for jobs creates travel and puts stress on marriage
women to work more and create more family stress
couples living together unmarried will become more common
- Euthanasia and "demise" pill
medical care to become very expensive to promote euthansia for elderly
children giving "demise" pills to parents at send-off parties because of cost of medical care (violating 'honor thy parents')
- Planning the control over medicine
"Congress is not going to go along with national health insurance. That (in 1969), he said, "is now, abundantly evident. But it's not necessary. We have other ways to control health care."
(HMO's take control from the doctor and patient. HMO's will only pay for approved medication and procedures.)
fraudelent billing since insurance company pays way lower rates than individuals
doctors would lose prominence, independence, accountability to patient and get lower pay
new difficult to diagnose diseases (such as AIDS, ebola, mad cow disease, bird flu, etc) (are some of these man-made diseases?)
supression of cancer cures to reduce population
"We can cure almost every cancer right now. Information is on file in the Rockefeller Institute, if it's ever decided that it should be released. But consider - if people stop dying of cancer, how rapidly we would become overpopulated. You may as well die of cancer as something else."
(many promising cancer treatments have been opposed and suppressed by FDA and AMA; look into Royal Ryfe, Gerson, Esiac, etc.)
"There is now a way to simulate a real heart attack. It can be used as a means of assassinates."
- "we think that we can push evolution faster and in the direction we want it to go."
- BLENDING ALL RELIGIONS — THE OLD RELIGIONS WILL HAVE TO GO
"Religion is not necessarily bad. A lot of people seem to need religion, with it's mysteries and rituals – so they will have religion."
(New Age religion will be basis where every past religious leader is ascended master, including Yahshuah, Mohammed, Krishna, Buddha etc.)
(Practically all religions expecting return of their religious leader which leaves them open to be deceived when antichrist comes)
Bible will be changed by revisions of key words (read my article "The Bible Has Been Changed" on how the Westcott-Hort texts are used instead of Textus Receptus.)
"some of you probably think the churches won't stand for this," and he went on to say, "The churches will help us!"
(There is likely infiltration of many churches with Masons, Jesuits, Communists, witches and occultists.
- Controlling Education and Information
MORE TIME IN SCHOOLS, BUT THEY "WOULDN'T LEARN ANYTHING."
(children nowadays are taught to work as group inducing a "group think" mindset)
(feelings are considered as valid as facts)
schools would be a hub of community
certain books would go missing in the library
some classics would be revised
access to certain books would be limited on a "need to know" basis
- Creating a Jungle Atmosphere
"Why should all that gambling money be kept in private hands when the State would benefit from it?"
drug and alcohol abuse encouraged
travel would be restricted at one point
need for more jails (1 out of 100 Americans is in jail!)
"We think we can effectively limit crime to the slum areas, so it won't be spread heavily into better areas."
"See, we're generating all this more crime, but look how good we are – we're also generating the means for you to protect yourself against the crime."
We'll have some good neighborhoods and some slums so crime will only be allowed in certain areas but clamped down in others
- GLOBAL INTERDEPENDENCE "TO CREATE A NEW STRUCTURE, YOU FIRST HAVE TO TEAR DOWN THE OLD"
(consider that manufacturing is now international: resources, parts and factory may come from many nations creating interdependence)
(organizations like WTO, IMF and World Bank are part of this new structure)
- PATRIOTISM WOULD GO DOWN THE DRAIN
people retrained to think as global citizens
(attack on national identity and national sovereignty)
(think about how immigration has affected national identity and North American Union will affect sovereignty)
-LOSS OF JOBS — LOSS OF SECURITY
U.S. will be strong in information, technology, communication and agriculture
heavy industry/manufacturing would be exported out causing a loss of jobs
(many jobs have been outsourced due to lower costs of production in China and India while tariffs have been lowered/eliminated)
-POPULATION SHIFTS TO ELIMINATE "TRADITIONS"
plan was to liberalize coastal areas such as California, New York and Florida and have those changes go to midwest
as midwest jobs go west or elsewhere "traditions" can then be changed
(The more conservative midwest and south provide a bulwark against moral decay that NWO wants to diminish)
(Duduman prophecied that California, Las Vegas, New York and Florida are Sodom and Gomorrah and would be destroyed; now we see how their decay occured)
-WORLD CITIZENS — WORLD SPORTS
emphasis on international sports such as soccer to create global community
(NASL failed but MLS came along; soccer moms were unheard in 1969)
baseball was too American; could be eliminated by paying players too much (almost happened in 1994)
football seen as American but displayed aggression served it's purpose
- HUNTING
gun control is needed (obviously to control the citizenry)
- SPORTS FOR GIRLS — TO DE-EMPHASIZE FEMININITY
sports emphasized to get girls away from playing with dolls and thinking of having children
- ENTERTAINMENT: VIOLENCE, SEX AND MORE SEX DESENSITIZATION — PREPARING THE PEOPLE FOR "HUMAN CASUALTIES"
- "MUSIC WILL GET WORSE"
(John Todd, ex-high level witch said only those initiated into witchcraft got deals with the record industry)
- GIVE US THE YOUNG
(condition and educate the young and you control the next generation)
- THE GRIM REAPER. TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS — NATIONAL ID — THE CHIP, ETC.
good reason and permission needed to travel
national ID card (there's already legislation on the table for this)
later national ID becomes implantable chip to avoid lost IDs, identity theft (yes, this is my bet on the mark of the beast)
- FOOD CONTROL
control of food would be centralized
it would be illegal to grow your own food possibly under some pretext of spreading disease
- WEATHER CONTROL
"We can or soon will be able to control the weather." (look into HAARP for weather control and how to create earthquakes)
- KNOW HOW PEOPLE RESPOND — MAKING THEM DO WHAT YOU WANT
"People can carry in their minds and act upon two contradictory ideas at one time, provided that these two contradictory ideas are kept far enough apart."
(This is call double-mindedness and Yahweh speaks against it. Example: we have to be able to torture possible terrorist even though Constitution
- Scientific research will be falsified to promote their agenda
- The United Nations will be pushed as the way towards peace and cooperation
- Terrorism would be used as a tool for control (think 9/11, loss of rights and privacy)
- Inflation through excess printing of money can be used to essentially rob the citizens
- Cable TV once it became two-way digital (instead of one-way analog) would be used to spy on people in their own homes
Electrical wiring apparently could be used for eavesdropping already
- Houses would become very expensive; houses would remain unsold as prices would be artificially high
This may already be happening with the boom and bust of housing. I don't think the federal government can bail out every bank so at one point the house price may remain artificially high by government regulation/intervention.
- "We have to change that. And once the Roman Catholic Church falls, the rest of Christianity will fall easily".
They plan to bring down the Roman Catholic Church. This agrees with my belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the Great Whore of Babylon.
It' interesting Dr. Day indicated the rest of Christianity with fall away easily. Is this because of the Masonic/Jesuit/Communist/witch infiltration of the churches that will be ready to help with that?
- Language will be used/changed to further their purposes like Orwell feared.
Consider the word 'gay' for sodomites. Or the word 'homophobia' indicating fear rather than repugnance toward the behavior and love towards the person as Yahsuah would have us be.
- The New World Order would be established during a winter weekend to limit rebellion.
- There would be no 'martyrs'. Dissenters would simply be taken secretly and murdered so to avoid insprining people to fight for their freedom or flee the system. This already happens in Latin American countries were despotic governments kidnap dissenter/reformers at night who are never seen again - these martyrs are called "los desparecidos", translated 'the disappeared'.

I really recommend you read the three transcripts. Now you may think this is all a joke or hoax. You are free to do so. I initially thought Dr. Day was way out there so I researched some of his claims that I thought were ridiculous such as the Bible being changed and there already being cures for cancer. I found that the Westcott-Hort documents of the New Testament did indeed introduce errors (or at least the translation of these documents did) and that there had been many promising cures for cancer that were simply repressed by the FDA/AMA and it's still going on. And Dr. Day is not the only one to warn of what's coming. There have been other insiders who've exposed the plans of these folks. I hope to show you another insider and what he had to say. I hope you have ears to hear this warning.

Shalom!


Sources:
[1] [link to american_almanac.tripod.com]
[2] [link to www.bookrags.com]
[3] [link to www.conspiracyarchive.com]
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9/20/2009 1:33 AM
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Prophecies of No Electricity (EMP)

Amos Scagg Prophecy
[link to amosprophecy.com]
"
Archive for July, 2008
EMP Situation
I was involved in an EMP situation .Electro Magnetic Pulse. An Electrical Blackout that lasts for ????…

There was really no reason for an evacuation but nevertheless there was an evacuation and no one was permitted to go back to their house for a period of time. Some ventured back to their house but nothing worked. Others that went back to their homes, the authority wanted to burn them down. The authority wanted total control but that didn’t happen.
Everything was in tact and nothing was harmed in the homes except electronic and electrical equipment. The houses were livable except for the modern conveniences we have come so accustomed to.
This situation involved the Ohio Valley area for sure.

An EMP burst doesn’t have to be from a bomb at high altitudes, it can be pulses from satellites in the atmosphere and no sound involved. Depending on the magnitude of the pulse/pulses, it can cover hundreds of miles
Electro Magnetic Pulse is the presence of gamma rays that interacts with the air. The Electrons created is turned into an electrical field that travels at the speed of light. It can burn up all electronic and electrical equipment. If it has a circuit board in it, it’s gone.

July 28, 2008
"

Sarah Hoffman Vision
[link to www.vinesbranch.com]
"
In these cities as the disease spread, the people tried to flee from the cities out to the countryside. There was complete chaos in these cities and a breakdown of normal society. There was no electricity in them either, but I don´t know why or how that came to be. There were cars piled up everywhere, blocking roadways and most people then had to walk out with nothing. The disease started to spread beyond these initial cities.

As these people were fleeing the cities, there were gangs attacking them and killing them. In the cities that were struck with the disease, there was complete chaos, looting, rioting, murdering, a complete breakdown. Many people seemed to go absolutely crazy. I sensed that the electricity had failed everywhere now and that nothing was running, there was no communication or anything anywhere in the country. Nothing worked, no radios or TV´s. I watched people throw rocks and break windows to steal TV´s which I thought was really crazy because they wouldn´t work.
"

Chuck Youngbrandt Prophecies
[link to www.survivalprimer.com]
"Electrical power will be rationed, this may be the result of the strange and powerful ejecta from the
sun which can destroy power grid hardware like it did in Quebec in 1989, that little one cost 10 million
to repair. Oil imports are cut off. Very little food. Again half the people out of work. Mexico and
Canada restrict how many Americans can cross over. Fear, pain, and misery for the unbelievers.
Miracles for the Christians, food increased, dead raised. At this time persecution of Christians will go
wild with government approval.
"
 Quoting: Watchman of Yahweh 752595
Watchman of Yahweh
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9/20/2009 1:27 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

John Todd was a high level ex-Illuminati who came to believe in Yahshua ha'Maschiach and warned the Christian church in America. Sadly, the Christian church in America for the most part did not listen. (I suspect the Christian church had already been infiltrated and controlled to a large degree even back then as it is now.)

John Todd belonged to the Collins family, one of the 13 Illuminati bloodlines, who helped introduce witchcraft into America in the 1750's. He was chosen to represent the Collins family in the Grand Druid Council of 13 which reported to and took orders only from the Rothschilds.

There was also a council of Masons. At first he didn't understand why they should also have power but later he understand that Freemasons had to go through the same initiations as Druids. For instance, the Luciferian initiation that a Wiccan witch goes through is the same initiation that a Freemason goes through in his first three degrees. Freemasons take a Luciferian initiation practically the same as Wiccans!!!! This is something very few lower level Freemasons know!

At one point, John Todd joined the US Army and killed an officer and was going to be in jail a long time but a US general and US congressman came and got him released from jail, had his records sealed and an honorable discharge given. He thought this was do to a spell on the general and congressman but was told they belonged to the Illuminati too. At this point, it's evident our president and congress whether Republican or Democrat are beholden to the Illuminati. If you don't believe this go research how many of our presidents have been Freemasons or members of the Council on Foregin Relations or Trilateral Commission. Also, consider that so many past Presidents have Merovingian blood. The Bushes belong to the house of Windsor. And yes, even Obama has royal blood in him through his mother and is related to the Bushes and five presidents in total. The Merovingians are the most sacred of the 13 Illuminati bloodlines according to Fritz Springmeier.

John Todd warned that the Illuminati had a plan for the takeover and destruction of the USA. It was supposed to culminate in the 1980's but it didn't. They failed to take the guns from the hands of Americans, so this was one of the things that forestalled the plan. Since the Illuminati control most of major businesses with inter-locking corporate boards they can bring down companies. At one point, they would bring down their own companies to destroy the US economy. Well, that's what the banks have done along with AIG, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. He said the Ayn Rand, a mistress of one of the Rothschilds was told to put the Illuminati plans to takedown the USA in the book "Atlas Shrugged".

John Todd said the Christian church had been infiltrated with so many pastors being on take of Illuminati money, that when he wanted to come to Christ he had to be careful not to choose a pastor that had already been bought. It's important for Christians not to idolize their pastors because many have already sold out and will lead you astray. agent provocateur has reported that 26,000 pastors receive money from the government so that when a FEMA emergency happens they can instruct their people to go to concentration camps.

John Todd also said the he gave money to the John Birch Society since the Illuminati like to control both sides of the game. This is called contrived opposition. Ron Paul has been seen given Masonic handshakes and MAY BE contrived opposition. Glenn Beck may be contrived opposition also so be careful.

John Todd as head of Zodiac Productions which would organize concerts said that only initiated witches would get music contracts. He said they would put spells and invoke demons into the master recording of albums. He said Christians who heard rock music were putting a curse upon themselves. He said Elton John never wrote a song that wasn't in witch language. It seems clear that the whole music industry is controlled by the Illuminati to influence people especially youth to the ways of Satan.

It appears at one point John Todd did slip back into witchcraft but understand that multi-generational Satanic bloodline children are traumatized in order to split their personalites or create different alters. These alters are later programmed through hypnotism and imbedded with demons. So children born into the Illuminati undergo Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) which is the basis of the CIA's MK-ULTRA mind-control sex slaves program.

John Todd also said that one of the plans was for Helter Skelter, where roving gangs go around brutally killing people like in the Sarah Hoffman vision. Charlie Manson who belonged to the occult group called "The Process" was a prototype of this. Many jail gangs would be released to be part of this Helter Skelter plot. Right now, many states are releasing prisoners because of their budget deficits and prisoner over-crowding. These prisoners may end up taking part in the Helter Skelter plan.

John Todd said anyone who left the occult would have a bounty put on their head of $10,000. That was the amount in the 1970's so I would guess it is much higher now. John Todd was arrested and put prison. No one knows what happened to him but I suspect he was killed for leaving and exposing the Illuminati. John Todd showed great courage and faith in leaving and warning about the Illuminati. His warning still echoes in our very present danger.

A warning: do not fight the Illuminati in the flesh, taking up guns. Yahweh is above the Illuminati. The Illuminati could not take down the USA in the 1980's because Yahweh restrained them. Now Yahweh is giving them more leeway and this nations sinks more into the sins of Sodom and Gommorah. Satan and the Illuminati are being used as tools to bring judgment on this nation. So repent of your sins so you are not included among the sinners and leave Babylon America so you do not partake of it's judgments. The battle is spiritual. Plesae don't forget this. Do not get into debt or if you are in debt try to get out of debt. Do you realize if that people had not taken loans whether for house, car, education etc that then the fractional reserve fiat money system would never have grown exponentially?

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Tempest
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9/22/2009 7:21 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Have you factored Wormwood into your timeline?

It is a real star. It is approaching and is
evident in our solar system's planetary
motions. Its arrival into the inner solar system
is unknown. But many are watching.
Watchman of Yahweh
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9/24/2009 11:30 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Matthew Stephen's Prophecy Letter

Dear Saints, it was stated back in 2002 the year of the beast will be 2006 and the Mark of the beast would be 2009, last year I stated that towards the end of 2009 there will be some form of the Mark of the beast brought forth and I talked about the 1918 flu well as we now see the unfolding of this prophecy via the H1N1 and the Gps tracking chip also the RFID chip it is all here at the door step of America. Look to the east coast with the floods and heavy rains.

Matthew Stephen


A mighty Earthquake and earthquakes will hit very soon; specifically, two large earthquakes in America, two large ones in Europe, two large ones in Asia and two large ones in the Middle East. It will come in as the sign of OMAR – OMAR- OMAR! THE FOUR WINDS WILL BE RELEASED AND THE ATTACK WILL BE RELEASED OF TORA- TORA- TORA! THIS WILL COME LIKE A FLOOD! THE SWORD WILL CUT AMERICA AND AMERICA WILL BE DIVIDED!

Then this will bring forth several Volcanoes; specifically seven major volcanoes on the earth and will cause massive fires. These earthquakes will shake in some areas for hours. Huge massive tornadoes will hit America sending her into a twist of devastation and confusion; some of these tornadoes are the size of cities. A mighty weather event will come and send upon the Ground Torrential violent rains, much like the Days of Noah. It will go forth for hours as massive floods come upon the land


Read Revelation Factor -3 and 4


The following prophecies are not necessarily in order but will come in due season; as to the date I do not know but I do know that it is very soon. There will be large earthquakes in Asia and particularly China, Americas West Coast and the Heartland, Europe and Italy. The Middle East will also be shaken by an earthquake. Seven times greater than 911 will occur very soon in America, with terrorist attacks. There will be an attack on our naval fleet and a naval blockade against Cuba. Peoples’ property in America will be seized by the government and annexed by the city, states and county governments. Religious and racial riots will cause a civil war within. China will have massive protests and demonstrations over reform issues. Italy, America and other nations will order troops to shoot citizens that protest against the governments and this will lead to the loss of independence worldwide. In 1898 president McKinley was assassinated and so shall 8 world leaders be assassinated and many other government officials; this will include state level leaders as well. Many leaders will be jailed as a result of this. America will be involved in 2 primary wars very soon. The first will be a civil war with riots within which will be sparked by terrorism. The second will be World War III; the Chinese and Russian invasion accompanied by other nations, which will occur closer to the year 2011. The war will be so bad that tens of thousands of women will be drafted. This will be due to the feminist movement of equal rights and women usurping the authority over men. There will come a diplomatic dispute that will cause major tension between France, England and other countries. The corruption will be so bad in countries that many major political leaders will be arrested including officials in China; much like the Chinese Emperor in 1898. The assassinations, attempted assassinations and cover ups will be so brutal that some countries will revert back to the way of Nazi Germany, i.e., shooting people at gun point. Profound weather storms will increase beyond measure even into the winter of 2009 and 2010. Particularly, it will be so severe that it will have a major impact on the fishing industry of the upper East Coast and the United Kingdom coast lines. The food supplies will be so bad in the pork, beef and poultry industries due to many types of plagues and tens of thousands people will die as a result of this. The pandemic flues will be much worse than the 1918 pandemic outbreak. The 1918 pandemic killed 50 -100 million people and the earth will see much greater death than this. Major cities will be burned and destroyed.

Major oils companies will begin to fall and this will cause a conglomerate of very few oil companies. Due to the lack of competition and the destruction caused by supernatural disasters, gas prices will go over $8 per gallon. Some high ranking military officers, including generals, will begin to die. The leaders of many universities that have allowed corrupt education will begin to die. Many of the leaders of the English House of Commons will die.

Notable heads of church institutions will die. This will include other notable professions that have been perverted in their ways; such as mental health professionals, scientist, engineers, inventors, artists and Hollywood stars. Major people in the feminist movement will die. Key people in Canada, England, and France, Germany as well as other countries will die. Key leaders in the Catholic religion will die. Many politicians in congress that make corrupt laws will be brought to their knees and many will die. The black plague death rest on all those who kill babies, have same sex marriages and allow the Sodom spirit to run throughout the earth. All types of plagues will break out beyond measure; boils, sores and all types of skin disorders. The waters will begin to turn blood red, and people will begin to be burn with fire beyond anything ever seen. HQ of U.S. Military will be hit.

This is a prophecy of the double judgments sent forth, and the death Angel has been ordered to go forth and bring judgment upon the secular and the church institution worldwide. This letter does not cover all the prophecies spoken. For other prophecies please see www.propheticwatchmanvine.com.

Keep in mind; we have started the Dooms day clock. It began on June 2009 – June 2012

Gay marriage bill takes effect in nation's capital on July 7, 2009 WASHINGTON (AP) — A law recognizing same-sex marriages performed elsewhere has gone into effect in the District of Columbia. The bill was approved in a 12-1 vote by the D.C. Council in May, with council member Marion Barry casting the lone no vote. Congress, which has the final say over the city's laws, had 30 days to review the bill. A push by black church leaders who oppose gay marriage failed to get a referendum on the matter. Congress took no action, allowing the bill to become law Tuesday. Council member David Catania has said that recognizing gay marriages performed elsewhere is a first step toward performing same-sex weddings in the city. Six states — Connecticut, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Vermont and New Hampshire — allow same-sex marriage. America’s Judgment is sure when a nation and a National city can allow Gay marriage against the law of God Watch out America, the Sword is Swinging! Coming Events Part-1-2 Nov.2007 VMI

I bid you to buy fine gold tried in the fire, for the harvest is great but the labors are few. The Seven Angels are released to bring upon all the earth the trumpets and bowl judgments which are mostly one in the same. Do not look for the physical sign in an old or physical temple; rather look for that Holy City, the New Jerusalem, coming out of heaven from God. See to it that you do not miss your day of visitation as many did in the days of old. We are in the third day and soon we will be in the day of the Lord’s return. Therefore, be wise and win souls; look for the lost sheep and the lost sons and bring them back to Jesus Christ. (Luke 15).

His Servant,
Matthew Stephen

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June 9, 2009
U.S. Sailor
User ID: 778976
9/24/2009 9:51 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

If Russia thinks it diesel powered submarines can outperform Americas nuclear powered subs then shame on them. Our submarines can easily detect the loud diesel engines of the Russians so if you think Russia has the balls to launch a nuke at American soil, trust me America has enough fire power to wipe this planet clean of life.

If Russia wants to go to war with America then I and all other U.S. military is ready to what it takes to defend our country against all enemies. 5a
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 778632
9/24/2009 10:56 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

To AC 773330,

You ask if I agree that the Vatican is behind everything? I do believe the Vatican is part of the control system of the Illuminati. Ex-Illuminati Svali said when she was a young girl she went to the Vatican where some high-level Catholic officials performed a child sacrifice ritual. The Catholic church through it's inquisitions killed thousands maybe hunderd of thousands among them true believers in Yahweh because for instance they read the Bible on their own. The Jesuits or Society of Jesus was founded by Loyola who I believe was a member of the Alumbrados which in English means Illuminated Ones. The Jesuits have been banned from many nations througout history because they have been subversive and revolutionary in character. There is evidence that the Jesuits were behind the assasination of Abraham Lincoln. Ex-Jesuit Alberto Rivera says that while the Catholic church in Vatican II took a milder approach toward Protestantism switching from an attempt to kill Protestants to now try to persuade them to come back, the Jesuits nonetheless renewed their oath to bring down Protestants by every means available. Rivera was personally involved in bringing down a Protestant church by speaking ill of the pastor and trying to get him accused of committing adultery. These are the methods of the Jesuits, very underhanded and disguised.

The Emperor Constantine was a sun worshipper. Roman Catholicism was an attempt by Satan to change tactics. Killing off Christians had only created martyrs and more people became followers of Yahweh through their witness of dying faithfully than were being killed. That wasn't working. Persecution has strengthened and grown the church historically so now Satan wanted to decieve people by created a hybird church that mixed Mithraism and it's sun worship with the true faith of Yahweh and so Roman Catholicism was born, a whore from the start because it was born from a wedlock to paganism. The Roman Catholic church switched the Sabbath to Sun-day, the day pagans worship the sun. The Catholic church instead of getting rid of the Roman Saturnalia which celebrates the rebirth of the sun god, took it over as the birthday of Messiah although Yahshuah's birthday is not December 25th. They took over the Druid Samhain festival and called it Halloween. They took over the Passover and called it Easter after a fertility goddess. They took over Lupercalia and called it St. Valentine's Day. And some Catholics even diefy Mary calling her the Queen of Heaven which is the title of an Egyptian goddess and say she was sinless when she was not. One more attempt to bring people to worship Semiramis, the wife of Nimrod, through another name. And Protestants sadly have not corrected all of these errors but have added their own such as the pretrib rapture lie and eternal security heresy.

But the Jesuits and the Black Pope are not the only ones that are part of Satan's control system here on Earth. The Council of Foreign Relations (CFR) is the Illuminati organization in the USA. The Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA) is the Illuminati organization for the UK. Presumably, most other nations have their own Illuminati organization. The Bilderbergers are the Illuminati organization for North America and Western Europe. Kevin Trudeau who is an ex-member of The Brotherhood says that South America, Africa, the Middle East and Asia also have thier own respective Bilderberger organizations. Then we have occult religious groups like the Golden Dawn, OTO, the Rosicrucians, Theosophists, church of Satan, Wiccans, Druids, Thule Society and Kabbalists. We also have occult secret societies like Skull and Bones, Freemason, Shriners etc. We also the Trilateral Commision that tries to unite Asia, North America and Europe economically. We also have the international bankers like the Rothschilds and the Warburgs who run central banks like the Federal Reserve and Bank of England. Then theres the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) which is the central bank for the national central banks. The BIS can take down national economies like for instance raising reserve requirements which caused the Japaneese banks to get into trouble in the 80's and 90's with their lost decade and how they also changed accounting rules to use mark to market accounting instead of mark to model to help bring down US banks.

So who's at the top of the pyramid. Self-proclaimed Illuminati named Hidden Hand says there are off-world Illuminati familiy members who are higher up than those on earth. But at the top of the hierarchy, at the top of the pyramid you have the all-seeing eye of Horus, the eye of Lucifer which is the eye of Satan. After all, it was Satan that led the rebellion of a third of the angels against Yahweh and Satan is also now ruler over evil spirits which we also call demons which are the spirits of the dead nephilim which are hybird half Watcher angel and half human. So the summary, the Vatican is part of the system but at the very top Satan runs the Illuminati.
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 778632
9/24/2009 11:35 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

To U.S. Sailor,

I admire your bravery and courage in defending the USA. But before Russia attacks we must first have an economic collapse where the dollar is substantially devalued, the stock market crashes, very high unemployment of about 50%. We must also have civil war within the USA, and martial law. The US will also first help Israel against a nuclear Iran and Syria, help South Korea against the invasion of a nuclear North Korea and will defend Taiwan against the Chineese who also have nuclear capabilities. The US armed forces are not equipped to fight and maintain a three front war. But even then the Russians and Chineese won't dare attack. Only after all the land west of the San Andreas fault falls into the ocean, the USA is divided along the Mississipi River with the Great Lakes pouring into the Midwest and possibly asteroids falling into the Altlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico causing tsunamis that hit the eastern seaboard and Gulf of Mexico, only after all that devastation will they dare attack.

When will this happen? I don't know but Thomas Gibson prophesied that we will be at war by 2010 (and I doubt he means against non-nuclear Iraq and Afghanistan). Matthew Stephens says by 2013 America will see it's demise whatever that means. So I'm looking for these signs to play out to see when these things are upon us.

Remember that Russian subs have already been spotted off the east coast after a long time of never coming around. This is a sign that the prophetic scenario is developing. Also consider that during the 911 attacks, the president was threathened over the phone by a party that gave correct nuclear launch codes. Has CIA asset Osamam bin Laden infiltrated our government? Or maybe there's a rogue element inside our government that helped create 911. That would help explain why military exercises of plane hitting building scenarios were planned for that day, why the air force didn't intercept the planes immediately and in the fastest possible way, and why Cheney at the Pentagon didn't order land-to-air missiles launched to take down the plane or cruise missile to protect the Pentagon. But that's another story....
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