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Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010

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Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 778632
9/24/2009 11:42 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

9/11: Inside Job?

9/11: Inside Job?

o NICK ROCKEFELLER TOLD AARON RUSSO ABOUT AN EVENT LEADING TO WAR IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ 11 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11
Aaron Russo says Nick Rockefeller told him "there's gonna be an event and out of that event we're gonna invade Afghanistan so we can run pipelines through the Caspian sea, we can go into Iraq to take the oil and establish bases in the middle east and to make the middle east part of the new world order and we're going to go after Venezuela - that's what's going to come out of this event."
Video [link to www.youtube.com] "Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 Fraud to Aaron Russo"
[link to www.agent] provocateur.com/articles/october2006/281006rockefellerpredicted.htm

o U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE CREATED PLAN TO ATTACK TWIN TOWERS IN 1976
Timothy McNiven who worked for the U.S. Defense Department said that in 1976 he was part of a team that was instructed to devise a plan to attack the Twin Towers using commercial airplanes piloted by Middle Easterners. The devised plan even included using plastic box-cutters to get through security. McNiven said that when he saw the Twin Towers fall on 9/11, he realized they had used the plan they had devised. So what is the Defense Department doing coming up with a plan to bring down the Twin Towers, a plan which was apparently used on 9/11? If you don't think the U.S. government is capable of false flag operations, I encourage you to research the Northwoods document where the U.S. military was planning to hijack planes, kill Americans and blame it on Cuba to go to war with Castro.
[link to www.rense.com]

o WORKER AT NORTH TOWER HEARD HUGE EXPLOSION FROM BASEMENT JUST SECONDS BEFORE AIRPLANE HITS NORTH TOWER
William Rodriguez worked 20 years for the New York Port Authority. He was in charge of certain stairwells on the North Tower. On 9/11, he heard a powerful explosion which cracked the cement walls coming from the basement of the North Tower. Seconds later, he heard another explosion from above which was the airplane that hit the 90th floor of the North Tower. So am I to believe Al Qeada sneaked through security, set up bombs and then timed them perfectly with the airplane hitting the building? That's quite a job for a few guys in the caves of Afghanistan. So who put the bombs in the North Tower?
Video [link to www.youtube.com] "rodriguez - basement bomb witness"
[link to www.theconservativevoice.com]

o FIREMEN AND REPORTERS AT THE SCENE REPORTED SECONDARY EXPLOSIONS GOING OFF INSIDE THE TWIN TOWERS
See the video to see evidence of secondary explosions and explosive devices in the Twin Towers. So how did these explosive devices get planted in the building?
Video [link to www.youtube.com] "9/11 - Total Proof Bombs Were Planted in the Buildings!"

o THERE IS SEISMIC EVIDENCE THAT POINTS TO UNDERGROUND EXPLOSIONS BEFORE TOWERS COLLAPSE
"Seismographs at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, New York, 21 miles north of the WTC, recorded strange seismic activity on September 11 that has still not been explained.
While the aircraft crashes caused minimal earth shaking, significant earthquakes with unusual spikes occurred at the beginning of each collapse. The Palisades seismic data recorded a 2.1 magnitude earthquake during the 10-second collapse of the South Tower at 9:59:04 and a 2.3 quake during the 8-second collapse of the North Tower at 10:28:31.
The Palisades seismic record shows that -- as the collapses began -- a huge seismic "spike" marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the earth. These unexplained "spikes" in the seismic data lend credence to the theory that massive explosions at the base of the towers caused the collapses. " Quote taken from source below.
[link to 911review.com]

o "BOMB SNIFFING DOGS WERE REMOVED FROM WTC DAYS BEFORE ATTACK"
A two week heightened security alert was lifted and bomb sniffing dogs removed from WTC days before attack.
Quote from [link to www.agent] provocateur.com/articles/june2004/062804ignoredclue.htm

o THERE WAS A POWER DOWN OF TWIN TOWERS WEEKEND BEFORE 9/11 ALLOWING FOR PLACEMENT OF BOMBS
So bomb sniffing dogs were removed the Thursday before the 9/11 attacks. During the weekend 9/8-9 just before the attack there was a power down so security cameras were down, security doors were not operating and there was no light. A perfect opportunity to plant the bombs the firemen and reporters heard on 9/11, especially now that the bomb sniffing dogs had been removed.
[link to www.serendipity.li]
Video [link to www.youtube.com] "9/11 Truth: Unusual Evacuations"

o MARVIN BUSH, PRESIDENT'S YOUNGER BROTHER, WAS PRINCIPAL OF SECURITY FIRM IN CHARGE OF WTC SECURITY
"Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down." Quote from [link to www.whatreallyhappened.com]
WOW! Marvin Bush's security firm did a great job removing bomb sniffing dogs and doing a power down the weekend before 9/11 when security cameras were off. And the security contract ended on 9/10. Just a coincidence?

o THE TWIN TOWERS WERE DESIGNED TO HANDLE AN AIRPLANE CRASHING INTO THEM

o THE TWIN TOWERS FELL AT NEAR FREE FALL SPEED AND IN DEMOLITION LIKE STYLE

o AT LEAST 8, PERHAPS 9, OF THE 19 HIJACKERS ARE ALIVE!
Were did they come up with these names? How could they have been hijackers if they are alive? Does anyone still believe the 9/11 cover story now?
Video [link to www.youtube.com] "9/11 Hijackers ALIVE!"
[link to www.welfarestate.com]

o FIVE OF THE ALLEGED HIJACKERS MAY HAVE TRAINED AT U.S. MILITARY INSTALLATIONS
[link to www.wanttoknow.info]

o IN JUNE OF 2001, RUMSFELD CHANGED PROCEDURE TO INTERCEPT HIJACKED PLANES TO REQUIRE HIS APPROVAL
In June 2001, the existing policy of immediate military interception of hijacked planes was modified so it required the Department of Defense approval, in the case of 9/11, that would be Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's approval. Why would Rumsfeld change the existing procedure since requiring his approval only slows down the interception? It makes sense to require DOD or presidential approval to shoot down a plane but not for interception of a plane that's been hijacked or is off-course. This is a direct betrayal by Donald Rumsfeld of his duty to protect this country. This change in procedure would help slow down the interception of the 9/11 hijacked planes. So why isn't Rumsfeld in prison?
[link to 911exposed.org]

o VP DICK CHENEY FAILED TO USE ANTI-MISSILE/AIRCRAFT DEFENSE SYSTEM TO PROTECT PENTAGON
Read the article below for a full explanation.
[link to 911exposed.org]

o IF IT WAS JUST A BOEING 757 THAT HIT THE PENTAGON WHY HAS THE GOVT REFUSED TO RELEASE ALL OF THE VIDEOTAPES?
The FBI quickly confiscated the videotape of the plane or missile flying into the Pentagon from a CITGO gas station and a Sheraton hotel. It has refused to show the videotapes except for a few clips. If it's just a Boeing 757 then what's the problem? On the other hand, if it's a cruise missile or a remote controled drone airplane then I'm sure they can't show us that since it would show military involvement.
[link to 911exposed.org]

o FLIGHT 77 DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO TURN BACK AND HIT PENTAGON
[link to 911exposed.org]

o WHY IS INITIAL PENTAGON DAMAGE LIMITED TO 16 FT DIAMETER HOLE WHEN BOEING 757 WINGSPAN IS 124 FT AND HEIGHT IS 44 FT?
The initial damage to the pentagon is a hole about 16 feet in diameter. How come there is no damage from the 124 ft wingspan or from the engines or from the tail which is 44 ft hight? The damage is more consistent with a cruise missile or small plane than with a Boeing 757.
[link to www.youtube.com]

o LARRY SILVERSTEIN, OWNER OF WTC, DECIDES TO PULL DOWN WTC 7
Larry Silversteing said "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
Pull it is common terminology for demolishing a building. If you look at a video of how WTC 7 came down, it is clearly demolition style. The problem with this, is it takes about 2 weeks to set up the explosives for pulling down a building, yet this would have to be done in a matter of hours. The only explanation was the explosives for the demolition of WTC 7 had already been placed there ahead of time just as those for the twin towers. By the way, Larry Silverstein now owns the Sears Tower which has zip code 60606. I hope the same fate doesn't befall the Sears Tower.
Larry Silverstein quote from [link to www.whatreallyhappened.com]

o FOX-5 Reports 9/11/01: WTC-7 Collapsed Before Actual Event
How could they have announced WTC-7 had collapsed before it had happened? Perhaps the word was out the WTC-7 was going to be demolished. See the video to see how the building came down demolition-style. But if it was demolished with explosives, there's no way they had enough time to put those in place in a couple of hours. The only conclusion left, was those explosives had already been planted before 9/11.
Video [link to www.youtube.com] "FOX-5 Reports 9/11/01: WTC-7 Collapsed Before Actual Event"

o BBC Reported Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early-- TWICE
How could they have known WTC-7 would collapse before it happened?
Video [link to www.youtube.com] "BBC Reported Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early-- TWICE"

o WTC-7 IS FIRST BUILDING TO EVER FALL DUE TO FIRE IN MODERN TIMES, THAT IS, IF IT WAS NOT DEMOLISHED ON PURPOSE
Video [link to www.youtube.com] "WTC Towers First Buildings in History to Collapse From Fire"
www.agent provocateur.com/wtc7_first_large_building_ever_to_collapse_f​rom_fire_alone.htm

o RUSSIA, EGYPT, JORDAN AND ISRAEL WARNED U.S. OF COMING 9/11 ATTACKS INSIDE AMERICA USING AIRPLANES
"Russian President Vladimir Putin publicly stated that he ordered his intelligence agencies to alert the US in the summer of 2001 that suicide pilots were training for attacks on US targets."
"In late summer 2001, Jordan intelligence intercepted a message stating that a major attack was being planned inside the US and that aircraft would be used. The code name of the operation was Big Wedding, which did in fact turn out to be the codename of the 9/11 plot. The message was passed to US intelligence through several channels."
'In late July 2001, Egyptian intelligence received a report from an undercover agent in Afghanistan that “20 al-Qaeda members had slipped into the US and four of them had received flight training on Cessnas.” To the Egyptians, pilots of small planes didn’t sound terribly alarming, but they passed on the message to the CIA anyway, fully expecting Washington to request information. “The request never came.” '
[link to www.cooperativeresearch.org]

o WHO WARNED SAN FRANCISCO MAYOR WILLIE BROWN NOT TO FLY ON 9/11?
[link to agent] provocateur.net/articles/february2008/250208Willie.htm

o ASHCROFT STOPPED FLYING ON COMMERCIAL AIRPLANES ON JULY 26, 2001
[link to www.sfgate.com]

o PNAC SENT LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINTON URGING HIM TO REMOVE SADDAM HUSSEIN FROM POWER
The Project for the New American Century (PNAC), founded by Billy Kristol as a neo-conservative think tank, sent a letter to President Bill Clinton on January 26, 1998 to wanting "the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power" signed by Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and many other neo-cons who would become members of Bush Juniors administration. This shows there were many Bush administration members who wanted war with Iraq.
[link to www.newamericancentury.org]



Good websites for more 9/11 info:
[link to killtown.911review.org]

Good movie about 9/11: Loose Change 2nd edition (1 hr 29 minutes)
[link to video.google.com]
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 778632
9/25/2009 12:19 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Repeating a History of Deception

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana

Summary
There is a long history of deception such as false flag operations and disinformation that have been used to create wars and deprive people of their freedoms. Below I present but a few examples. People have historically shown very little ability to discern the manipulation and deception of their leaders. Mankind has not shown the ability to rule itself justly. So I pray "Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed by thy name, THY KINGDOM COME, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven ...". God has and will continue to judge the nations culminating in the Great Tribulation lasting 3.5 years and the kingdom of God will be established whose reign will endure forever!


* DESERT STORM (FIRST GULF WAR)

On July 25,1990, the U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie met Saddam Hussein just prior to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. She could have said don't cross this line in the sand, we do not acknowledge your claim that Kuwait is a renegade province of Iraq and we will defend Kuwait if you invade. Instead she said "I know you need funds. We understand that and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. I was in the American Embassy in Kuwait during the late 60's. The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America. James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction." Looks like the U.S. ambassador gave Saddam the impression that America would not involve itself in the matter, and so Saddam invaded Kuwait. [1]

Bush Sr. claimed Saddam had many troops and tanks near Saudi Arabia, one of our key oil suppliers. Satelite images later showed that this was a lie. General Colin Powell acknowledged this was disinformation. [1]

A young Kuwaiti girl spoke to congress about Iraqi troop brutal attack on a Kuwaiti hospital. It turned out the young girl was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the U.S. and the story was fabricated. [1]


* SECOND GULF WAR

The Bush Administration lied about Iraq obtaining tubes for uranium enrichment, the non-existent Iraq - Al Qeada connection and WMDs in Iraq. What few Americans know is that the U.S. used radio-active depleted uranium in armor-piercing shells thus exposing our military men and Iraqis to radiation. We have in essence "dirty bombed" Iraq and now many people will die to radiation related illnesses such as cancer. This depleted uranium dust can travel through the air exposing many areas to radiation. Also, depleted uranium has a very long half-life so certain areas may be uninhabitable for centuries. This radiation may be one of the causes of Gulf War Syndrome which many of our soldiers are suffering from. I now fear for America: "he who digs a pit shall fall into it". [7]


* VIETNAM WAR

In 1964, the North Vietnameese supposedly attacked the American destroyer Maddox in the Gulf of Tonkin. This "Tonkin Incident" was a pure fabrication - it never happened. [3]


* WORLD WAR II

On Feb. 27, 1933, the German Reichstag building burned which allowed Hilter to get rid of much of his political opposition. Many historians now believe that Hitler's men burned down the Reichstag to create chaos and fear so that the German populace would give up their rights for "peace and security". The Enabling Act was passed which gave Hitler dictatorial powers. [4]

On August 31,1939, some German officers dressed as Polish uniforms took over a German radio station. This was part of Operation Himmler which executed false flag operations to make it appear Poland was showing aggression towards Germany. This was done to stir public opinion to favor an invasion of Poland. [5]

President Franklin Roosevelt although he said he would pursue a policy of neutrality actually followed exactly the opposite policy. Roosevelt imposed economic sanctions on Japan and knew Pearl Harbor would be attacked and failed to warn them. This was all part of a plan to get the U.S. to join WW2 by instigating the Japaneese to fire the first shot. [6]


* WORLD WAR I

The ship Lusitania which carried ammunitions and weapons for Britain as well as American passengers was sunk by German U-boats. It was against the law to carry weapons and passengers on the same ship. This event helped stir American sentiment against Germany. [3]


* SPANISH AMERICAN WAR

The U.S.S. Maine was sunk in a Havana harbor on February 15,1898. William Randolph Hearst's New York Journal relentlessly published stories blaming the Spanish for the sinking of the Maine even though there was no evidence for this conclusion. This incited the public reaction against Spain and led to the Spanish-American War. This showed the power of yellow journalism to create public sentiment favorable to a war. This is an example of the tail wagging the dog. [2]


Sources:
[1] [link to www.whodies.com]
[2] [link to www.smplanet.com]
[3] [link to 911review.com]
[4] [link to www.911-strike.com]
[5] [link to en.wikipedia.org]
[6] [link to www.independent.org]
[7] [link to www.libertyforlife.com]
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 778632
9/25/2009 2:11 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD to Aaron Russo

Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 778632
9/25/2009 2:58 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Weatherbill's 9/3-11/2010 California Earthquake Prophecy Not Confirmed by E.R. Lindsey's Three Simultaneous Signs 1 Year Before California Earthquake

Weatherbill has prophesied or predicted that a great California earthquake will take place sometime for September 3, 2010 to September 11, 2010. E.R. Lindsey has prophesied

"In the day of Noah, God’s warning was heard, but the people refused to heed the message. Likewise in this day God is warning his people through these visions and revelations, the clearest warning of all will come exactly one year before the greatest disaster of modern times strikes the earth.

This prophetic warning will come in the form of three signs. These three events will occur in different parts of the world at the same time.

Australia will experience its greatest earthquake. A volcano will erupt in the Mediterranean Sea, resulting in a huge tidal wave. A minor earthquake will occur in California causing only negligible damage, but it will crack walls in both the city halls of Los Angeles and San Francisco.

Exactly one year from the simultaneous occurrence of these three events, a great convulsion will shake the whole earth. In California, the San Andreas fault will spit and the land west of it will sink into the ocean. This will create 150 feet tidal waves which will encircle the world, inundating most coastal cities of the earth. Huge cracks will appear in the ground. Many volcanoes will erupt. The whole earth will shake. Believing that the United States is helpless to defend herself, the Communist Block will launch their atomic rockets upon the free world. The attack will last for three-and-one-half days. "
Source:
[link to www.etpv.org]

"The largest earthquake recorded in Australia was the 1941 Meeberrie Earthquake with magnitude (ML) 7.2. "
Source:
[link to www.rms.com]

So I was waiting to see if E.R. Lindey's 3 signs would occur during 9/3-17/2009. I added a 6 day allowance past 9/11/2009 to account that Yahweh's calendar has 360 days while the Gregorian calendar has 365.25 days. So did Australia experience it's greatest earthquake during this time? No.

List of major Australian earthquakes
[link to www.quakes.uq.edu.au]
[link to www.seismicity.see.uwa.edu.au]

SO 7.2 is still the largest magnitude earthquake on Australian soil and the largest off the coasts of Australia is 7.5. I don't think this record has been surpassed lately so E.R. Lindsey's three signs have not yet come to pass.

So what does this mean? It means that if both Weatherbill and E.R. Lindsey prophecies are true that they are speaking of different CA earthquakes, though with E.R. Linsdey saying everything west of San Andreas falls into the ocean this is definitely the "big one". If both Weatherbill and E.R. Lindsey are both describing the "big one" then one of the prophecies will fail. I am not here to tell you Weatherbill's prophecy is true or isn't true. I don't know. I trust E.R. Lindsey's prophecy because it is so in line with other prophecies of a great CA and New Madrid earthquake soon followed by Russian nuking and Communist invasion. Weatherbill may well be describing a substantial CA earthquake/tsunami but which is not the same earthquake that E.R. Lindsey describes. Time will tell as always.
Shalom!
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 778632
9/25/2009 3:44 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

There's more I forgot to say ...

When do I expect to see E.R. Lindsey's 3 signs? Well in the Chuck Youngbrandt 3 year scenario we have North Korea invading South Korea and China invading Taiwan in the first year, and in the third year we have the great midwest New Madrid earthquake followed 37 days later by Russian subs nuking both the east and west coast. The great Californian earthquake also happens before the Russian subs nuking the USA. Gail Smith's prophecies indicate a first earthquake in Utah and then a large second earthquake followed by Russian invasion from east and Chineese from the west with nukes being used. If the CA eartquake happens first this may reverberate to Utah and be Gail Smith's first earthquake. The second great earthquake MAY BE the great New Madrid earthquake. Gail Smith says the second earthquake happens within 15 days of the first earthquake. So it seems probable that the CA happens first affecting Utah followed within 15 days by the great New Madrid earthquake which is followed 37 days later by the Russian subs nuking the coasts and within two months of that China and Japan invade from West and Russia from the east. So if the California earthquake happens 2 weeks after the New Madrid earthquake then the CA earthquake is also in the third year of Chuck Youngbrandts 3 year scenario so E.R. Lindsey's 3 signs would occur one year before that in the 2nd year of the scenario. Let's say N.Korea invades S. Korea in 2010 indicating the first year of Youngbrandt's scenario, then I would expect E.R. Lindsey's 3 signs to occur in 2011, the second year of the scenario, with the CA earthquake, midwest earthquake and Russian nuking/invasion happening all in the third year which would be 2012. Understand I am not saying that N. Korea will invade S. Korea next year but that may happen since Thomas Gibson has us being in war by 2010. Why am I confident associating Gail Smith's first earthquake in Utah with the great CA earthquake?

Sarah Hoffman says
"I saw a huge earthquake strike Utah and then California. There were earthquakes all over California, but were especially devastating in Los Angeles and San Francisco areas.

These earthquakes triggered volcanoes all over the West. They started spewing a tremendous amount of ash and smoke into the air and the air became very dark and dirty. The sun was darkened even more because of the smoke and the ash that started raining down everywhere.

I also saw huge waves of water sweep over the West Coast and then I realized that it was happening all over the coastal cities of the entire world. Los Angeles was almost swept completely away. The waves were huge.

I saw a big wall of water, taller than many of the buildings, perhaps as high as 20 feet, sweep over Salt Lake City. I thought this was strange because it was so far from the ocean and I thought how could a wave from the ocean travel all the way to Salt Lake City. I was impressed that it was not from the ocean but from the ground. I quickly saw great cracks in the earth around Salt Lake City open up and water just shot out of the ground. I felt that under the ground, very deep, there was a tremendous amount of water in the ground and the earthquakes forced it up to the surface. When the water swept over the city, there weren't very many buildings left, in fact there was a tremendous destruction with hardly anything left at all, just a few buildings. The water went from Idaho down to near Cedar City and was very bad. "

This strikes me as the CA earthquake that E.R. Lindsey prophesied about which has tsunamis flooding cities world-wide. Why do I think Gail Smith's second earthquake is the midwest New Madrid earthquake? Because the CA and midwest earthquakes are the only major earthquakes that the prophecies indicate occur BEFORE the Russian invasion. Gail Smith has a 3rd and 4th earthquake but she explicitly indicates that the Russia/China invasion is AFTER the second earthquake. E.R. Lindsey makes it clear the CA earthquake/tsunami happens before the Russia/China invasion. Chuck Youngbrandt makes it clear the great midwest New Madrid earthquake also happens before the Russian nuking/invasion. So both the CA and New Madrid earthquakes happen before the Russian invasion. Gail Smith has 2 earthquakes happening with 15 days before the Russian invasion so I deduce that these must be the CA and midwest earthquakes. You are free to arrive to your own conclusions.
So now, I have the CA earthquake happening in Youngbrandt's third year, followed within 15 days of the New Madrid earthquake, followed 37 days later by Russian subs nuking the east and west coast and within 2 month of that China and Japan invading from the west and Russia from the east and Cuba, Mexico, Nicaragua and Serbia helping them.

What I haven't figured out yet is where relative to these events do the 3 asteroids, on hitting in the Gulf of Mexico, another off of Florida and another in east coast creating tsunamis that wipe out the eastern seabard and the coast of the Gulf of Mexico occur.
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Gail Smith prophecy:
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ECONOMIC COLLAPSE: Shortly after her mother in law’s death the government will cause to occur very rapidly a complete, world wide economic collapse in which money would be worthless. She is not sure how soon after her mother in law’s passing this will occur. At one time she felt it would just be a few days; now she is not sure how much time will pass. She saw lots of paper money blowing about the streets and no one bothering to pick it up. There are a number of scriptures, both in the Bible and in modern revelation which refer to Babylon falling, and an economic collapse occurring in “one day”. She has not been shown how this collapse would occur, but she has been shown on many occasions that it would occur very quickly over just a relatively few days. She says that “we will hear rumors which will get louder and then the collapse will happen very quickly.”

FIRST EARTHQUAKE: Within about 10 days after the economic collapse there would be a substantial earthquake along the Wasatch Front in Utah. She says that this quake “doesn’t seem that hard but because it lasts so long there is quite a bit of damage.”

SECOND EARTHQUAKE: Within about 15 days after the first earthquake there would be a second earthquake that would be INCREDIBLE. (I have another friend or two who have seen these quakes and they say that this second quake would be the biggest quake ever recorded by man.) The damage would be massive and would include the breaking of every dam in the mountains above the Wasatch Front. The Jordanell dam will break and then when the surge hits Deer Creek, it too will break and a huge wall of water over 80 feet high will scour Provo Canyon and everything in front of it. There will also be massive liquifaction of the ground in the west part of the valley. Buildings will be falling like dominos. There will be massive fires and floods. Travel south out of Salt Lake Valley will be blocked because the huge sand and gravel deposit at the Point of The Mountain will slide across the entire valley making it impossible to go across this loose material on foot. Also, very wide and deep crevices will open up in this same area. The crevices will be perhaps 600 feet deep and 500 to 600 feet wide.

MARTIAL LAW: Sometime between the economic collapse and the second earthquake martial law would be imposed in Utah and perhaps over the entire country. The rioting, looting, mobbings, etc. that will follow the economic collapse will be unlike anything this country has ever experienced. She says this martial law will be incredibly oppressive and brutal, worse than Nazi Germany. People caught outside after curfew will be shot. People will be prohibited from meeting, praying or leaving the area. Those caught doing so will be executed, Armed troops will have authority to search homes and seize food, arms and ammunition and anything else they choose to take. This oppression will be so severe that people will pray night and day for deliverance. The U.N. will relocate people and sort them, some will be executed and others sent to work camps. She saw armed soldiers rounding up groups of men and then shooting them. She saw that men were very scarce in the valley.

THIRD & FOURTH EARTHQUAKES: Perhaps five or six months - perhaps longer, after the second earthquake a third earthquake will hit the Wasatch Front destroying everything and everyone left in the area. Gail thinks that this quake is in response to the prayers asking for relief. This third quake will result in significant shifts in the earth’s crust that will cause a series of massive quakes all over the world. Sometime later there will be a fourth quake in the Wasatch front of such incredible magnitude that she saw Mount Timpanogos sinking away and a new mountain appearing in the middle of Utah Valley. When I asked Gail to review this in Sept. 1996 she added the following: “Last week I saw the whole valley under water. I was standing on the Point of the Mountain looking both ways to Utah Valley and Salt Lake Valley and saw all of it under water. The water was lapping up against my feet. I was up on the foothill. I also saw the cracks in the earth with molten lava coming out of them.”

PLAGUES: Following the second earthquake one or more terrible quick killing diseases would break out in the Utah area and kill many. The disease(s) will be something like the Ebola virus that kills very quickly. While Gail was talking on the radio about these plagues a man named “Robert” called in and said he had been shown these diseases and he was also shown that the governing powers controlling the troops would be responsible for unleashing the disease on the people. Gail agreed with this. According to both of them the entire area from Northern Arizona to southern Idaho would be sealed off and turned into a “dead zone.” They said that the purpose for all of this is to kill Christians and particularly the LDS.

U. S. INVADED: Shortly after the second earthquake the United States will be attacked by invading forces. Russia will invade the East coast and China the West coast. The invasion will include missile attacks. She was shown that the invasion would occur when people were eating and drinking which Gail believes to be Thanksgiving, but possibly Christmas. There will be nuclear attacks on both coasts, Las Vegas, and perhaps in Utah.

BEGINNING OF THE MARK OF THE BEAST: She and others have also been shown some events involving the leadership of the LDS Church. The governing power(s) would threaten to exterminate the entire church if the leaders did not cooperate. The church leaders agree to cooperate with the corrupt government rather than trust in and turn to the Lord. The deal is that the Church leaders will tell the LDS people to bring their food storage into central church controlled locations which will then be shared among all the members. However, instead the Church turns everything over to the government. Then the government, (probably U.N. controlled) requires that people receive an implanted computer chip in their right hand or forehead before they can draw anything out of the storehouse(s). This will be the beginning of the “Mark of the Beast” in the world. Gail says, “Those who wake up at this point and refuse to take the mark will have their heads cut off.” Revelations speaks of people being beheaded and also says that those who do take the “Mark of the Beast” will lose their salvation and exaltation. It is definitely much better to be beheaded than lose everything by accepting the mark - besides, they will be resurrected fairly quickly anyway. [The scriptures on the “mark of the beast” are in Revelations 13:15-18, 14:9-11, 16:2, 19:20 & 20:4] She was also shown that the government would not keep its part of the deal with the Church leaders and after getting the food storage would proceed to do its very best to exterminate the church and its members. Based on what Gail has been shown it looks like the purpose of the martial law, at least in Utah and adjoining areas, will be to contain the people in these areas so that they will die as a result of disease, famine, etc. What Gail and others have seen fits precisely with the “covenant with death” that Isaiah saw the latter day church leaders entering into, which covenant would be “disannulled” and the people would be “trodden upon” anyway. Isaiah 28 beginning at verse 14.
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Source:
[link to toddjumper.com]

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Sarah Hoffman's Vision

VISION OF THE END OF THE U.S.

(Editors note: I don't normally post revelations given to Mormons, this lady has been given a warning from God to them, which she is delivering in seminars. God will save a remnant from among them. It appears that judgment begins with the World Trade Towers falling.)

Sarah Hoffman committed suicide in 1979 and was told she had to come back and finish her earth life but first she was shown the end of the world.

"This panoramic view of the earth came into view and then came closer and closer like I had been out into space and was flying towards it.

I knew that this was to help me make my decision to go back to earth, to my terrible life, because part of me wanted to go back to the beautiful spirit world or paradise and part of me felt the need to go back into my body and change my life. It was kind of a tug of war and what I was going to see was to help me understand what I would go through if I went back into my clay body.

It played out again just like a video tape in fast forward motion and yet again I could assimilate and see everything clearly and perfectly. As the world zoomed up to me I saw the whole world and then the various countries.

I don't know the countries of the world very well, but as I looked at these lands I instinctively knew what countries they were. I was looking at the Middle East and watched as a missile flew from Libya and hit Israel with a big mushroom cloud. I knew that the missile was actually from Iran but people from Iran had been hiding it in Libya and fired it. I knew that it was a nuclear bomb. Almost immediately missiles started flying from one country to another, quickly spreading to all over the world. I also saw that many nuclear explosions did not come from missiles but from ground bombs of some kind. I knew that in the future there would be a nuclear war throughout the world and this is how it would start.

Then, my focus changed from the Middle East to America. I understood that I was about to see some of the things that would lead up to the nuclear holocaust I had just witnessed.

As I looked upon the continent of North America, I zeroed in on the east coast and then to New York. I saw New York with all of its buildings and people. Then I saw some tall buildings crashing to the earth with tremendous smoke, debris and dust everywhere (World Trade Towers ?). I saw a woman holding a little girls hand running from the crashing buildings. The lady had long dark hair past her shoulders curled inward a little. She had on a beige business suit, heels of a slightly darker color, perhaps a tan color. No glasses. The little girl appeared to be about 6-7 yrs old with short brown hair, below the chin, in a sort of a pageboy haircut. They were running together, holding hands running from the falling buildings in the heavy smoke and dust and they were forced to let go of hands and thereby they got separated. The little girl was terrified and I could hear the little girl screaming mommy, mommy over again and again. I don't know if they lived or died. I can still see the face of the lady clearly and could identify her if I saw a picture...or could describe her to an artist to draw her. I asked if an earthquake caused the buildings to fall down and the impression was no, but I don't know what caused them to fall.

The next thing that I felt more than I saw was that shortly after this there was no commerce, no shopping, buying, and was impressed that there was no economy. The economy had almost failed completely and no one had any money.

The next thing I saw was people being sick and dying. I saw this particularly in four cities, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Salt Lake. The disease started by having white blisters, some the size of dimes appear on their hands, arms and face. This quickly developed into white puffy sores and blisters. They would stumble about and fall and then many died within a short time, maybe 24 hours. I also saw other people with blood coming from their nose, mouth, eyes and ears. It started like a flu virus and it spread very quickly, faster than the other white blister disease. The people who had this disease died even faster. This was more wide spread across the entire United States. There were hundreds of thousands of people stricken with these two diseases.

I knew that the diseases, and there were several different kinds, but at first primarily these two, came from small containers that had been brought into the United States. These containers were like quart jars and I was impressed that the people carrying them would just drop them on the ground in large crowds of people and the people would become infected without realizing it.

In these cities as the disease spread, the people tried to flee from the cities out to the countryside. There was complete chaos in these cities and a breakdown of normal society. There was no electricity in them either, but I don't know why or how that came to be. There were cars piled up everywhere, blocking roadways and most people then had to walk out with nothing. The disease started to spread beyond these initial cities.

As these people were fleeing the cities, there were gangs attacking them and killing them. In the cities that were struck with the disease, there was complete chaos, looting, rioting, murdering, a complete breakdown. Many people seemed to go absolutely crazy. I sensed that the electricity had failed everywhere now and that nothing was running, there was no communication or anything anywhere in the country. Nothing worked, no radios or TV's. I watched people throw rocks and break windows to steal TV's which I thought was really crazy because they wouldn't work.

Immediately, as I watched this happen in the United States, I jumped back to the Middle East and saw the same thing in Israel, the same sores and I realized that it was the same types of disease or sickness happening there. I knew somehow that whatever diseases had been used in the United States was also being used in Israel.

This lasted for only an instant and I was back in the United States. There was a tremendously long winter that lasted into summer. It caught everyone by surprise and started the full famine. Actually, I realized that the long winter actually just increased the famine greatly to its full measure, because the famine had already been in progress because of the storms, droughts, floods and other plagues that had been happening over the few years leading up to the long winter.

It seemed then that the year following the long winter was when everything started to go down hill very quickly or things piled up one on top of the other without any breaks. The sense of time though was not very clear because I was seeing several things that seemed to happen all at the same time or very close together.

During and after the long winter, the disease spread everywhere and increased in severity. The economy was completely gone and the electricity was also gone. There was complete chaos and anarchy all over the United States. There was no government, just a total breakdown. There was no food at all... I saw people trying to get food and were completely panicked because there was no food. I saw people digging in the ground for worms and eating them because they were so hungry.

Also, during this time I became aware that there was very little water and that almost all of the water had become poisoned so that if a person drank the water they would get the disease and die. Many did even knowing that they would die, because they were so thirsty.

Some of the people seemed to go crazy and went around in gangs killing people just for the sake of killing. Others killed for food or for things but the people who killed just to kill were absolutely terrible. They seemed like beasts, animals completely out of control as they raped, looted, burned and butchered people. I saw them go into people's homes and drag families out who were hiding there and rape them and butcher them.

There was such a fear and hatred that came upon the people...families, wives, husbands...loving ties no longer mattered...it became survival only. Husbands would kill their wives and children for food or water. Mothers would kill their children. It was absolutely horrible beyond description.

The air seemed to be filled with smoke as many buildings and cities burned and no one put them out. As I looked upon the scene of chaos, destruction and smoke, I noticed that there were these little pockets of light scattered all over the United States. There were, I would guess, about twenty or thirty of them. I noticed that most of these places of light were in the Western part of the United States, with only three or four in the East.

These places of light seemed to shine through the darkness and caught my attention and so I concentrated on them, asking, "what are these things?"

I could then see that they were people who had gathered together and they were on their knees and they were praying. The light was coming from them and I understood that it represented their goodness and love. I understood that they had gathered together for safety and that they cared more for each other than for themselves. Some of the groups were small, with only a hundred people or so, but in other groups there were what seemed several thousand.

I realized that somehow many, if not most of these cities of light had been established just before the disease attack and that they were very organized. It was like they had known what was coming and had prepared for it. I didn't see who or what had organized them, but I saw many people struggling to get to them with nothing but what they could carry.

These cities of light had food and were sharing their food with those who joined them in their groups. There was peace and safety in the groups. They were living in tents, all kinds of tents, many of which were just blankets, covering poles. I noticed that the gangs left these groups alone, choosing to pick on easier targets and unprotected people. They also preyed on the people who were trying to get to the cities of light. Many people in these cities of light had guns to defend themselves with and so the gangs left them alone but it seemed that the gangs just didn't want to come against them.

I realized that these cities of light, which is what I began to think of them, were only for a short time and then the people in them would go somewhere else, however, I don't know where they went but I seem to think that they gathered to the mountains, to the high places.

As I was looking at the cities of light, I then saw missiles coming and hitting some cities and mushroom clouds started happening all over the United States. Some were from missiles that I knew came from Russia and others were not from missiles, but were from bombs that were already in the United States. They were hidden in trucks and in cars and were exploded.

I specifically saw Los Angeles, Las Vegas and New York hit with bombs. New York was hit with a missile, but I think that Los Angeles was hit by a truck bomb or actually several, because I didn't see any missile. I also saw north of Salt Lake City have a mushroom cloud, a small one, but no missile.

In the darkness I also saw little fireballs. I don't know if this happened just before or during the mushroom clouds, but there were millions falling everywhere. They were very hot, of different sizes with most about the size of golf balls. As they fell from the sky they left a streak of flame and smoke behind them. Whatever they touched they started on fire, people, buildings, trees, grass it didn't matter. I didn't ask what they were or where they came from, because by this time I was getting sick of the whole scene and so I just observed and didn't ask many questions.

Almost right on top of these mushroom clouds I saw Russian troops invading the United States. I saw them parachuting in to a lot of places, primarily from the East Coast. I saw them parachute into Salt Lake City. I also saw Chinese troops invade from the West Coast, near Los Angeles. The people who were still alive started fighting them with their own guns. I didn't see any military.

This was the nuclear war that I had seen earlier and I knew that it was also happening all over the world like I had seen previously. I did not see much of this war, but I was impressed that it was not very long and the Russians and Chinese lose, but I don't know how exactly.

Now the smoke turned to a very thick, heavy dark smoke. Just as things appeared to be as bad as it could get, then the earthquakes happened. This happened during a winter. It seemed that this was the winter following the very long one and so the chaos had been almost for a full year. The earthquakes seemed to start in the West, around Idaho and Wyoming and then quickly spread everywhere.

I saw a huge earthquake strike Utah and then California. There were earthquakes all over California, but were especially devastating in Los Angeles and San Francisco areas.

These earthquakes triggered volcanoes all over the West. They started spewing a tremendous amount of ash and smoke into the air and the air became very dark and dirty. The sun was darkened even more because of the smoke and the ash that started raining down everywhere.

I also saw huge waves of water sweep over the West Coast and then I realized that it was happening all over the coastal cities of the entire world. Los Angeles was almost swept completely away. The waves were huge.

I saw a big wall of water, taller than many of the buildings, perhaps as high as 20 feet, sweep over Salt Lake City. I thought this was strange because it was so far from the ocean and I thought how could a wave from the ocean travel all the way to Salt Lake City. I was impressed that it was not from the ocean but from the ground. I quickly saw great cracks in the earth around Salt Lake City open up and water just shot out of the ground. I felt that under the ground, very deep, there was a tremendous amount of water in the ground and the earthquakes forced it up to the surface. When the water swept over the city, there weren't very many buildings left, in fact there was a tremendous destruction with hardly anything left at all, just a few buildings. The water went from Idaho down to near Cedar City and was very bad.

In the cities there was great destruction, and most of the buildings had been destroyed and there was a lot of rubble. Though the earthquakes, disease, floods, volcanos, tidal waves killed a lot of people, most people died because of the gangs and everyone killing each other...not from the terrible devastations.

As I thought a moment about the It seemed that the earth itself had become sickened at the terrible things that were happening upon it and was finally reacting. I was impressed that the earth wanted to cleanse itself of the terrible chaos and evil that had engulfed the people.

Because of the volcanoes erupting everywhere, there was now ash mixed with the heavy smoke. Ash was falling and it was almost complete darkness everywhere.

The diseases had become very bad...I saw people literally die on their feet. There was another disease I saw. They had these red blotches on them and then they quickly started bleeding everywhere, from every opening. Then, they literally disintegrated or melted into unrecognizable masses of flesh and bone. I cannot even begin to describe what I saw. The dead were everywhere

After this terrible winter, I saw the survivors pile up the dead into huge piles and burn them. The smell was absolutely terrible. I could smell it just a little and the smell itself would make you sick This burning of bodies had happened a little during the chaos, but not much because people were so worried about surviving that they just ignored the dead.

I then saw four more things.

I saw a huge earthquake in the middle of the United States. It was tremendous and seemed to split the United States in half about where the Mississippi River is. The crack in the earth that resulted was huge and that area totally sinks. It is miles wide and it opens up and the earth falls down. It seemed to swallow everything. Then water flowed in from the Gulf of Mexico all the way up to the Great Lakes, only they weren't lakes anymore, they became all part of a big inland sea.

I then saw a series of tremendous earthquakes all over the world. But it wasn't lots of separate earthquakes, it was all part of one huge, gigantic earthquake that shakes the entire earth. Because of this earthquake, waters come upon the land all over the world. Huge walls of water along all of the coasts. This earthquake and the walls of water make the earlier ones seem small by comparison. I don't know if the earthquake that split the United States into two parts was part of this worldwide quake or not.


I then saw a tremendous wind come upon the earth. As the wind hit I saw people go into caves and into the cracks of rocks to escape it. It was tremendous and it blew trees and everything away. It appeared to be stronger than any hurricane or tornado. It seemed like everything was blown away.

I understood, without asking, that the great worldwide earthquake and the wind were somehow caused by a huge object, like a planet or something, that had come very close by the earth and disrupted everything and that it was near the end that this happened.

I then was back into space viewing the entire earth from a distance. I then saw this huge fireball, two or three times bigger than the earth approach the earth. It was extremely bright red and gold in color and then engulfed the entire earth. When I saw this, because it was so different than everything else, I then asked what it was. I was impressed that it was the burning of the earth that is described in the scriptures. I understood that just before it comes that Jesus had appeared to the earth and the good people that I had seen earlier had left the earth with Him and were no longer on the earth. The only people left were the few wicked who had survived the devastations earlier, but there were not many."

Source:
[link to www.vinesbranch.com]

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Part of E.R. Lindsey prophecy

In the day of Noah, God’s warning was heard, but the people refused to heed the message. Likewise in this day God is warning his people through these visions and revelations, the clearest warning of all will come exactly one year before the greatest disaster of modern times strikes the earth.

This prophetic warning will come in the form of three signs. These three events will occur in different parts of the world at the same time.

Australia will experience its greatest earthquake. A volcano will erupt in the Mediterranean Sea, resulting in a huge tidal wave. A minor earthquake will occur in California causing only negligible damage, but it will crack walls in both the city halls of Los Angeles and San Francisco.

Exactly one year from the simultaneous occurrence of these three events, a great convulsion will shake the whole earth. In California, the San Andreas fault will spit and the land west of it will sink into the ocean. This will create 150 feet tidal waves which will encircle the world, inundating most coastal cities of the earth. Huge cracks will appear in the ground. Many volcanoes will erupt. The whole earth will shake. Believing that the United States is helpless to defend herself, the Communist Block will launch their atomic rockets upon the free world. The attack will last for three-and-one-half days.

The combination of these terrifying events will annihilate a third part of the human race, as well as a third part of all that grows.

Source:
[link to www.etpv.org]
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Chuck Youngbrandt's 3 year scenario

The Coming Occupation of America



Chuck Youngbrandt was called to warn the Church in America of coming judgments. And to wage "Strategic Spiritual Warfare" against principalities and powers, the rulers of the darkness of this world, and against spiritual wickedness in high places.

PROPHECIES FULFILLED:
*Economic accord between Japan & Red China in 1977
*Rise in inflation and interest rates from 1978-1980
*Hurricane DAVID in 1980
*Killer earthquake in Algeria in 1979
*Heat Wave in 1979 that killed 1,500.
*Eruption of Mt. St. Helens in 1980 (3/28 & 5/18)
*Iran's earthquake that killed 300 in June of 1981.
*Assassination attempt against Pres. Reagan in 1981.
*Prevented terrorist plot against White House in '83
*Tiny asteroid that just missed earth '89.
*Mexico City earthquake (20,000 killed) Sept. 19, '85 (involved)
*Hurricane ELENA hitting Gulf Coast in Oct. '85
*Major earthquake in San Francisco Oct. 17, '89
*Gulf War and outcome in 1990-91
*Election of President Clinton in 1992.
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The following is information given by God to his prophet, Chuck Youngbrandt

As described in Revelation chapters 17 and 18, Judgment will come on Babylon the Great, and we believe it will commence very soon. We understand Babylon the Great to be America. The reasons for Judgment are given within those verses and are obvious to all with a sense of God's point of view and His character. And, national moral error always has its national consequences. God judges nations while they are yet a nation.

Chuck divides the Judgment into a three year progression. We will assume the Judgment will start in the year 2000. It will progress into an enemy occupation of America lasting seven years. At the end of the seven years, the occupying armies will be driven out.

Weatherwise the year will start with a very rainy spring. On June 9th it gets very hot and no rain with resulting crop failures. In October it will begin to be very very cold. There will be volcanic eruption on the west coast. A destructive hurricane will hit the New Orleans area in September, followed on the 19th by an earthquake in St. Louis. This hurricane, [Sept in New Orleans,] is a sign that in the following December an accidental Russian firing of a nuclear missile attack on America will occur. While the Russians try to stop them, 4 get through. They hit Lexington KY, Columbia SC, Richmond VA, and just north of New York City. The U.S. counter attacks and hits three Russian cities.

In this year North Korea will attack South Korea, China attacks Taiwan. War again in the Persian Gulf where we loose. The stock market will start its fall in July and will result in one half the people being out of work with great inflation and coupled with food shortages, starvation will start. From other prophets like Dan Bolher, terrorist attacks will become common. The destruction of trains, planes, school busses, power plants and on and on. With our economy reduced, fuel will be in short supply. Food riots will start in August, August will be a real turning point. Those who are rebellious against God will now rebel against the government including the communists fifth columnists we have here. Military troops will have to be called out as a result.

Some will repent but many will continue in rebellion. God said 90% of the rebellious and disobedient church people will die during this time. What sounds like germ warfare or at least a plague breaks out in California and Georgia killing thousands as it spreads, panic and fear will result. China and Japan buddy up closer in their economies, Japan out of fear, no doubt.

The second year, 2001, weatherwise there is the very cold winter, some places no snow and others to much, -46 degrees in Chicago. Eighty percent of the homes in America will be without heat and with little food many will starve to death. Dead bodies will lie in the streets. It will reach 120 degrees by mid May.

The year starts out in January with an earthquake in northern Iowa followed in February by another one in Boston and then they become very common throughout the year. In late spring God's prophets will go across the land calling people to repentance, many will repent. Electrical power will be rationed, this may be the result of the strange and powerful ejecta from the sun which can destroy power grid hardware like it did in Quebec in 1989, that little one cost 10 million to repair. Oil imports are cut off. Very little food. Again half the people out of work. Mexico and Canada restrict how many Americans can cross over. Fear, pain, and misery for the unbelievers. Miracles for the Christians, food increased, dead raised. At this time persecution of Christians will go wild with government approval.

Next during the third year, in the summer, July 5th, a mighty, very powerful earthquake hits Chicago, it will be heard for 500 miles around, knock people off their feet in Detroit. The water in Lake Michigan will rush to the north and then return 15 stories high and totally destroy Chicago. The water will continue down the Mississippi river valley wiping out all the cities in its path including New Orleans. Thirty days later, angels will tell the Christians where to flee, and seven days after, an all out nuclear attack will hit America. At this time in Florida most of the southern half of the state from Orlando south will go under ocean water, be gone. The U.S. Military will have received a death blow, very little military left. Two months later is the invasion. Russian troops land at Slaughter Beach, Delaware, they move on into Philadelphia where no one is alive from 3 neutron bombs. They take over many air fields and land a million in personnel. China, Cuba, Mexico, Japan, Nicaragua, Serbia, and one other country join in the attack. On the west coast the Chinese land and enter through Mexico with Mexican help and up into California, they also land at San Francisco. They land in Astoria, Oregon with mainly Japanese personnel. In California the Chinese are ordered to kill all Americans. They dig great holes with earthmovers and bury people alive. This is stopped by a battle in San Francisco where the Chinese general who promoted "death to all" was killed. Alaska was taken by the Russians and they killed everyone there. Hawaii surrendered to the Japanese. The Russians will take some Americans back to Russia for slave labor. Russia and China will plunder the land. Chuck saw busts of Karl Marx set up in churches and people worshiped him. As the seven years go by, children are sold for food. Chuck said at this time you could buy a child for a pack of cigarettes. Witches and homosexuals will hunt Christians for food, cannibalism! Near the end of this occupation Americans were put on trains, told they were going to re-education camps, and taken to slaughter houses where they were processed for food, again the satanic groups wish to kill millions of people. This is when the anointed Leader of the Land, by God's power, drives the invaders out. When this starts happening the "enemy" Christian soldiers that are here join with the Americans driving the others out. All totaled 70% of Americans will have died.

Store food? YES! Shoot at the enemy when they come, one against the many? NO! Look to God always. Do not fear the enemy, fear God, Rev 14:7.

Jesus, why are you telling me this, Chuck asked. "That my children should prepare their hearts for these things and believe on me, for I am able to supply all your needs in every adversity. That you walk in faith and not fear. That you stand upon my promises and see them. That you abide in my love and know that I am the Lord thy God."

[There are 5 safe zones: NE Washington, North N.Dakota, NE NYState, N Arkansas, and N Florida.]

[link to www.americaslastdays.com]

Source:
[link to www.stevequayle.com]
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 778632
9/26/2009 6:09 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Have you factored Wormwood into your timeline?

It is a real star. It is approaching and is
evident in our solar system's planetary
motions. Its arrival into the inner solar system
is unknown. But many are watching.
 Quoting: Tempest 758580


In Revelations we have 7 seals, followed by 7 trumpets, followed by 7 vials.

The 6th seal through 4th trumpet can all be explained by the passing by of Wormwood/Niburu/Planet X which is likely a brown dwarf star which according to the Sumerians passes by our solar system every 3,600 years in a highly eliptical orbit. You may wish to read Tim McHyde's ebook "Knowing the Future". Wormwood will likely have a trail of comets/asteroids that accompany it, some of which may cross paths with earth and strike earth. Also such a large body will have gravitational interactions with earth and likely cause earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and the oceans to stir.

6th seal - great earthquake, sun becomes black, moon becomes red, stars fall to earth, heavens depart as scroll, mountains and islands move from their place, men hide in rocks and caves

7th seal - silence in heaven for half an hour, the seven trumpets are revealed

1st trumpet - "hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up"

2nd trumpet - "as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed"

3rd trumpet - "there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter"

4th trumpet - "third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise"

1st trumpet describes little asteroids hitting earth coming in red hot and burning a third of trees and vegetations. This can be from the debris field in the tail of Wormwood. The 2nd trumpet describes an asteroid/comet/meteor which is huge like a mountain coming in red hot. This would cause huge tsunamis destroying coastal cities and ships in the ocean those docked, kill sea creatures because of it's heat and the heat would burn up the oxygen in the water also resulting sea life dying, and red algae which flourishes in an oxygen deficient environment would grow causing the water to look like blood. In the 3rd trumpet part of the star Wormwood hits the earth likely causing more of the same but also causing the waters to be bitter and poisonous. In the 4th trumpet, a third part of day is darkened, possibly the comet impacts created earthquakes and volcanic eruptions and the sky is filled with ash. The sixth seal comes before the four trumpets but if we take it all together it's easy to see the two impacts will cause earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions with spew out ash to make the sun darkened and the moon like blood, move the islands and mountains with it's impact and also cause 300mph winds which will cause people to hide in rocks, caves and mountain crevices.

So how does Wormwood factor into the timeline? Good question though I hadn't thought about it much. The most obvious tie-in are with the great CA earthquake were everything west of the San Andreas fault falls into the oceans with tsunamis that go world-wide, also the midwest New Madrid earthquake that divides the USA along the Mississippi River with the Great Lakes pouring into the midwest and the 3 asteroid impacts off the eastern coast which cause huge tsunami to hit the eastern seaboard and the Gulf of Mexico. I believe the CA earthquake happens first and then the midwest earthquake to follow within 15 days based on Gail Smith's prophecies. Both earthquakes occur before the Russian nuking of the USA. I have not placed the 3 asteroid impact but I suspect it happens before the war also.

Sarah Hoffman says:
"I saw a huge earthquake strike Utah and then California. There were earthquakes all over California, but were especially devastating in Los Angeles and San Francisco areas.

These earthquakes triggered volcanoes all over the West. They started spewing a tremendous amount of ash and smoke into the air and the air became very dark and dirty. The sun was darkened even more because of the smoke and the ash that started raining down everywhere.

I also saw huge waves of water sweep over the West Coast and then I realized that it was happening all over the coastal cities of the entire world. Los Angeles was almost swept completely away. The waves were huge. "

So it's clear the CA earthquake causes volcanoes in the West to erupt spewing ash and making the sun darkenend and maybe the moon red. This may be part of the second trumpet impact when a huge mountain strikes the ocean causing world-wide tsunamis, stress on tectonic plates to bring about the great CA earthquake and trigger volcanoes. The resultant stresses may also trigger the Midwest earthquake which happens within 15 days of CA earthquake. Of course, the Wormwood impact could also cause it to occur. So the more I think about it Wormwood coming by with it's two impacts causing earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions seems likely to be the cause of the CA and midwest earthquake and 3 asteroids which weakens the USA and encourages Russia and China to invade.

Then we also have:

Revelation 18:21 (King James Version)
"And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

This hints that the fall of Babylon America is associated with a comet hitting the sea, possibly the 2nd trumpet impact.

Sarah Hoffman says:
"Also, during this time I became aware that there was very little water and that almost all of the water had become poisoned so that if a person drank the water they would get the disease and die. Many did even knowing that they would die, because they were so thirsty. "

The water being poisonous maybe because of Wormwood making the water bitter although it may be because biochemical terrorism.

Sarah Hoffman says:
"In the darkness I also saw little fireballs. I don't know if this happened just before or during the mushroom clouds, but there were millions falling everywhere. They were very hot, of different sizes with most about the size of golf balls. As they fell from the sky they left a streak of flame and smoke behind them. Whatever they touched they started on fire, people, buildings, trees, grass it didn't matter. I didn't ask what they were or where they came from, because by this time I was getting sick of the whole scene and so I just observed and didn't ask many questions."

The little fireballs may be part of the 1st trumpet "hail and fire mingled with blood" that burns up a third of the trees and vegetation. On the other hand, it could be associated with the Russian nuking. It's hard to say which.

The other possibility for earth changes is a pole shift although it can account for earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and tsunamis, it does not explain the two impacts well.

Isaiah 24:20
The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

The Bible verse above may indicate a pole shift or simply what happens to the earth after it sustains two heavy impacts.

On December 21st, 2012 the earth is supposed to be entering the Milky Way galactic plane which it does every 25,000 years. Now it's interesting to note that as the earth spins, it creates a magnetic field because inside of it there is an iron core. Now hurricanes above the equator spin the OPPOSITE WAY of those hurricanes south of the equator. So the question is as the earth goes from one side of the galactic plane/equator to the other side will it also start to change it's spin to the opposite spin? If the earth would start to change it's spin then at one point in th transition it would not spin possibly resulting in the "three days of darkness" that so many prophecies mention. But also as the earth starts to decelerate it's spin, the inertia of the water in the oceans may cause huge tsuanmis to inundate the land. Also, tectonic plates would also want to continue spinning the previous way causing tremendous earthquakes and volcanic eruptions everywhere. When the earth finally changed it's spin, we should expect the north pole and south pole to have flipped which is called the pole shift. Some have the new south pole in Siberia and the north pole in Brazil or Peru. These areas would get very cold very quickly possibly flash freezing man and animal. Just something to think about.

I beleive Matthew Stephen has not only 2 earthquakes in America, but 2 in the MidEast, two in Europe and 2 in Asia. So whatever causes these earthquakes, I suspect it will be a global cause such as Wormwood or pole shift. Hope this helps.
Watchman of Yahweh
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9/29/2009 12:42 AM
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A prophecy about Bush Jr. being the last elected president of the USA. This may seem to contradict the prophecies that Obama is going to be the last elected president of the USA but not if you consider that this last election was invalid because Obama was not elegible to be president because he doesn't qualify based on his citizenship.

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A Word given through Scott Hofstee November 5, 2004

Quoted from:
[link to thedaysofthunder.faithweb.com]

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The Lord says this to the nation called America, land of the imprisoned, home of the cowardly. Imprisoned in a slavery not seen by eyes and cowardice toward the righteousness that only can come from God above and His Holy Son, Immanuel. I have positioned you now for the last days of your existence. You have chosen your King, you have set your heart, placed your heel, now ready yourself. For as lightning strikes from the east to the west so shall I strike you. And with perfect swiftness and suddenness.

You have not yet seen the fullness of My fury and I have given you but a foretaste to reach out to you in mercy but you have not heard Me. Now as it was in the days of My Son, I come again in the fullness of time, to present one last time, My Truth.

The sun will now set on the nation called America, for you elected your last president; you set your last course. The ship that is America is on a collision course with a mountain called the New Jerusalem that shall descend from above. A mountain where I dwell. You will find it immovable and impossible to overcome.

To the president of this nation, I say this. I AM about to come to you. When you are alone, abandoned and we shall talk. I will afford you a way out from the darkness you have chosen. What will you do? I ask you to take my hand, follow Me home. Come down from the place of lofty thought and high mindedness. Come to the valley of peace and I will give you mercy. I AM coming to show you the way, will you follow me this time?

The land of America will now be shaken to the core, brought to its knees and taken apart and given to another. America take heed, ready yourselves, the sons of perdition are coming to shed the blood of the innocent. Stand in Me and you will be saved, put your confidence in yourself and you shall fall. I AM the hiding place in which you remain, in order to survive. Do not be unbelieving. Believe in Me, for it is My doing in this season.

I shall now commence to pour out the judgments I have foretold of the great cities of America. I have given but a foretaste in the days past. I shall now complete with perfect completeness, the words I have spoken through My prophets.

To those religious who have supposed that their prayers ordained the election of their president I say this. Your prayers are the very last things that have certified the destruction of this nation. I have chosen this one long ago to fulfill My purposes in the last days leading up to My appearing to all. Your prayers have demonstrated your love for a king other than the rightful ruler of this earth. But fear not, Immanuel comes. The rightful King, to set all to right, to make the crooked road straight. Look up people, He comes with ten thousands of His Holy Ones! To judge the earth, to make the mountains low and the valleys high. Nothing shall oppose his purpose and live. Look you nations of the earth, the righteous ruler and savior of your soul comes with healing in His wings to lift up the lowly, feed the hungry, clothe the naked. The Lord is coming with His holy angels to gather the wheat into His barns and to cast it upon His threshing floor. Holy is His Name! For it is above all other names! Immanuel comes with might and power. Woe to the inhabitants of the earth who have not made ready. For it will be a dark day for you. But happy will be the man who has made ready, for He comes with His reward for those who were wise and made ready, for the Lord comes with ten thousands of His holy Ones! Holy is the Lamb of God, which has taken away the sins of the world. He took them upon Himself and they could not hold Him. Death has no hold on Him, for he is Life and He comes with life for those whom he foreknew before time began. Holy...Holy...Holy is the Lord, the rightful ruler of the Earth. Woe...woe...woe to those who have chosen Saul, for darkness is your destiny, destruction your fate. So says Holy One of Israel, God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. AMEN
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Tempest
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9/29/2009 1:38 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

The issue with Wormwood is critical to understanding what is going to happen to America. I believe that America is the most suitable candidate for Babylon the Great. Babylon is destroyed after the passing of Wormwood and it's effects.

It is the manner in which Babylon the Great is destroyed that interests me. The merchants mentioned in the Revelation are distraught at the SUDDEN destruction and subsequent loss of the nation which was their market place.

What is noticeable in this prophecy is the concept of a nation that is strong, having a robust economy, secure, and is unaware of peril. This is an object lesson in humanism being rewarded with destruction. Consider that America will experience the single most destructive force known to humanity. I can only imagine the destruction of earth changing events. The human cost will be high. Yet America will rally in its own strength and resume it's course of idolatry, murder (abortion), hedonism, and godlessness. The churches and government will declare that they persevered and deny the One true G_d. When they cry peace then sudden destruction will come.

Many will cling to sin and the Rapture to escape. Yet, the place of safety will be in obedience to the Word of G_d. Scripture is very clear: come out of her my people that you be not partakers of her sins and that you receive not of her plagues. These plagues will come in one day! We are to obey and move our feet when He tells us to move: just like the children of Israel in the wilderness. There is not a "rapture". Israel is the only prescribed place of safety. Staying in America or running to any other place is unwise and really disobedience. Staying in America will be death.

Eventually, the wilderness in a greater Israel is the last safe place for the Torah obedient believers in Yeshua. This where the two-house teaching becomes helpful. The great rabbis of the Jewish faith have for centuries openly taught that the northern kingdom of the Hebrew people were exiled. They had not returned - contrary to what some believe. They are out there still. Unaware, yet slowly coming to knowledge of the truth that they are Hebrews.

I believe that soon a prphet in the calling of Elijah will direct the return of the lost 10-tribes to the Land of Israel. This will take place before the passing of Wormwood. These people are scattered throughtout the earth, but some have concentrated in English speaking countries including the doomed United States.

Consider this: if you have a 14 year old child who hasn't recieved Yeshua as savior and you are "raptured", will that child go with you? Where is it written? no where! We are taught things like age of accountability and other doctrines to paint a pretty picture. It is all lies!

The truth is so much easier to understand. We simply obey. We leave as families with our believing and unbeliving family members. Those who refuse to obey will be left behind: literally! It is written that once we are there in the Land of Israel that G_d will cleanse us and present us without spot or blemish. What are the spots and blemishes? They are unbelieving people: goats if you would.

It is that simple. The "rapture" is a myth created by men inspired by demons. Eventually as the man of sin is revealed and grabs power, we who are alive will enter the wilderness and be protected for 3 1/2 years.

Stay close to G_d. Listen to His voice, His Word. Find a Torah observant messianic or christian community of believers. And wait for the Pslam 83 conflict to create a greater Israel and subsequent immigration for Torah keepers.
Watchman of Yahweh
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9/29/2009 3:16 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

1968 Prophecy by 90 Year Old Woman in Norway

Quoted from:
[link to www.inthebeginning.com]

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An old woman of 90 from Valdres in Norway had a vision from God in 1968. The evangelist Emanuel Minos had meetings (services) where she lived. He had the opportunity to meet her, and she told him what she had seen. He wrote it down, but thought it to be so unintelligible that he put it in a drawer. Now, almost 30 years later, he understands he has to share the vision with others.

The woman from Valdres was a very alert, reliable, awake and credible Christian, with a good reputation among all who knew her. This is what she saw:

"I saw the time just before the coming of Jesus and the outbreak of the Third World War. I saw the events with my natural eyes. I saw the world like a kind of a globe and saw Europe, land by land. I saw Scandinavia. I saw Norway. I saw certain things that would take place just before the return of Jesus, and just before the last calamity happens, a calamity the likes of which we have never before experienced.

She mentioned four waves:

1. "First before Jesus comes and before the Third World War breaks out there will be a ‘détente’ like we have never had before. There will be peace between the super powers in the east and the west, and there will be a long peace. (Remember, that this was in 1968 when the cold war was at its highest. E. Minos) In this period of peace there will be disarmament in many countries, also in Norway and we are not prepared when it (the war) comes. The Third World War will begin in a way no one would have anticipated - and from an unexpected place.

2. "A lukewarmness without parallel will take hold of the Christians, a falling away from true, living Christianity. Christians will not be open for penetrating preaching. They will not, like in earlier times, want to hear of sin and grace, law and gospel, repentance and restoration. There will come a substitute instead: prosperity (happiness) Christianity.

"The important thing will be to have success, to be something; to have material things, things that God never promised us in this way. Churches and prayer houses will be emptier and emptier. Instead of the preaching we have been used to for generations -like, to take your cross up and follow Jesus, - entertainment, art and culture will invade the churches where there should have been gatherings for repentance and revival. This will increase markedly just before the return of Jesus.

3. "There will be a moral disintegration that old Norway has never experienced the likes of. People will live together like married without being married. (I do not believe the concept ‘co-habitor’? existed in 1968 - E. Minos.) Much uncleanness before marriage, and much infidelity in marriage will become the natural (the common), and it will be justified from every angle. It will even enter Christian circles and we pet it - even sin against nature. Just before Jesus return there will be TV- programs like we have never experienced. (TV had just arrived in Norway in 1968. E. Minos)

"TV will be filled with such horrible violence that it teaches people to murder and destroy each other, and it will be unsafe in our streets. People will copy what they see. There will not be only one ‘station’ on TV, it will be filled with ‘stations.’ (She did not know the word ‘channel’ which we use today. Therefore she called them stations. E. Minos.) TV will be just like the radio where we have many ‘stations,’ and it will be filled with violence. People will use it for entertainment. We will see terrible scenes of murder and destruction one of the other, and this will spread in society. Sex scenes will also be shown on the screen, the most intimate things that takes place in a marriage." (I protested and said, we have a paragraph that forbids this kind of thing. E. Minos.) There the old woman said: "It will happen, and you will see it. All we have had before will be broken down, and the most indecent things will pass before our eyes."

4. "People from poor countries will stream to Europe. (In 1968 there was no such thing as immigration. E. Minos.) They will also come to Scandinavia - and Norway. There will be so many of them that people will begin to dislike them and become hard with them. They will be treated like the Jews before the Second World War. Then the full measure of our sins will have been reached (I protested at the issue of immigration. I did not understand it at the time. E. Minos.)

The tears streamed from the old woman’s eyes down her cheeks. "I will not see it, but you will. Then suddenly, Jesus will come and the Third World War breaks out. It will be a short war." (She saw it in the vision.)

"All that I have seen of war before is only child’s play compared to this one, and it will be ended with a nuclear atom bomb. The air will be so polluted that one cannot draw one’s breath. It will cover several continents, America, Japan, Australia and the wealthy nations. The water will be ruined (contaminated?). We can no longer till the soil. The result will be that only a remnant will remain. The remnant in the wealthy countries will try to flee to the poor countries, but they will be as hard on us as we were on them.

"I am so glad that I will not see it, but when the time draws near, you must take courage and tell this. I have received it from God, and nothing of it goes against what the Bible tells.

"The one who has his sin forgiven and has Jesus as Savior and Lord, is safe."


WHEN THE OIL FLOWS
An elder in the Pentecostal Church at Moss, Norway, Martin Andersen, heard the following prophecy in 1937, in Moss:

‘When oil comes out of the North Sea and along the Norwegian coast, things will begin to happen, and the return of Jesus is approaching.’

When these words had been proclaimed, people stood up in the congregation and asked the man to sit down and not speak such nonsense. In 1937 it was indeed nonsense to talk about oil being pumped along the Norwegian coast. Today all the world’s big oil companies are pumping oil along the coast of Norway. Norway is the world’s second greatest exporter of oil - after Saudi Arabia.

The sum of it all is: Jesus is coming soon (suddenly).

Original source editor’s note: The above account was originally transmitted from Israel to friends in the US. It was sent by a Norwegian Christian worker by the name of Ragna Von Porat. Ragna states in a footnote that it was translated from Danish. She further states that Emanuel Minos, the evangelist mentioned in the account, was her friend’s closest neighbor in Oslo. She says, "I heard him in my young days. My parents knew him."

Because of my fear of transmitting false prophecy, I have diligently inquired concerning the information in this letter. Publication has been delayed until permission could be secured from Ragna in Israel. In my contact with her, she has assured me that these accounts are true and reliable. In fact, she relates that the first account has already been published in one of Norway’s Christian newspapers.

I have found in my own research that the first account was also published by the Christian Information Service in Germany. The website of Dr. Emanuel Minos is active today and can be accessed for verification. Although the language on this site is Norwegian, the very similar story of the woman and her vision is posted there in English. The above accounts are transmitted just as they were received.

Ragna took it upon herself to verify as much of the above information as she could. In contacting the Embassy of Norway she learned that Norway has now dropped to the world’s third largest oil exporter.

Ragna states, "I certainly have no objection to your going ahead [with publishing]. It must be now-if ever."
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Watchman of Yahweh
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9/29/2009 5:28 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Stephen Hanson Prophecies

Quoted from:
[link to www.angelfire.com]


"WHO IS ABLE TO DISCERN THE TIMES AND SEASONS"?

Oct. 15, 2005

32 men of Issachar, who understood the times and knew what Israel should do—200 chiefs, with all their relatives under their command; 1 Chronicles 12:31-33

"I tell you that this is the beginning of the end. When have the winds blown as they have during the last ten years? When have governments toppled and rose again to take another form as they have before? When have families been torn apart as they have? When have wars and rumors of wars occurred? I tell you that the floods have come and the winds have blown. The earth has shook, and it will continue to shake until I return. Will there be a rebuilding of these things? I tell you that everything that can be rebuilt will be temporary. "

"After the onslaught of those days, I will come to rebuild my kingdom. Never again will the earth go through the turmoil that it is going through now again. The enemy will come to power, but he will be defeated. He will arise from the east, and he will persuade many with his smooth words. Woe to those who follow after him."

"But I will bring my people to places of safety. I will snatch them out of the hand of the enemy. I am gathering a great harvest until the end, and I am in the process of bringing that process to an end. For the end of days is at hand. Who is there who has been able to discern the times and seasons? Who is there who would stand upon the walls and warn the people? Behold, I am coming soon. Be warned and be ready for those things that are coming."

Stephen Hanson
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“MY PEOPLE SUFFER FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE”

Oct. 10, 2005

(The Lord spoke this to me today because there seems to be a problem in this area of properly judging prophetic words. To be sure, there is a great need for “true discernment” during this time. However, we need to not only use the scriptures when we’re doing this properly, but we also need to listen to His voice when discerning. We need to step into that chamber of His spirit so that we can judge rightly.)

My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. "Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests; because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children. Hosea 4:6

Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, Hebrews 6:1

22 Let a cry be heard from their houses when you suddenly bring invaders against them, for they have dug a pit to capture me and have hidden snares for my feet. Jeremiah 18:22

“My people suffer for lack of knowledge. My people suffer because they look to the ways of tradition. Very few know how to judge rightly. Very few received the words of Jeremiah when he was alive. Even those who think that they know how to judge are judging according to their own devices. Was Jeremiah received or was he thrown into a pit? There are many in this hour who speak words of edification and comfort, and that is well and good. But who is there among you who would judge those words that go beyond these parameters? It is well and good to judge according to my word, but when judging prophetic words that go beyond these, you must enter into that secret chamber with Me. You must listen to my still small voice. Many of you are like the Pharisees when you judge these things. For you follow the letter of the law; and then you say that if you cannot find this prophetic word in my scriptures then they are false. I tell you that you are judging by appearances. Am I saying that there is no need for discernment in this hour? I tell you that there is a great need. But when you are discerning these things you must step into communion with Me. Very few do this. You have your pet teachers and your pet prophets. You have your favorite books that you read. When the time comes, and it will, I will say that I never knew you. Would you go onto maturity or would you stay in your childish ways? “

Stephen Hanson

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“LOOK UNTO THE ROCK FROM WHICH YOU WERE HEWN”

Oct. 8, 2005

15 I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. 16 Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth." Gen. 9:15-17

1 "Listen to me, you who pursue righteousness and who seek the LORD : Look to the rock from which you were cut and to the quarry from which you were hewn; 2 look to Abraham, your father, and to Sarah, who gave you birth. When I called him he was but one, and I blessed him and made him many.

“I tell you that this world will begin the trials that are set for it. My word will last forever. There is nothing that can destroy or abolish it. From everlasting to everlasting, my word has been set in the hearts of men and women. When the mountains crumble and fall into the sea my word will remain strong. I have set my bow in the heavens as a reminder that I will never destroy earth again with a flood. However, there are coming judgments upon the earth. Those coming judgments are set in my word. The earth will need to be cleansed, and then new heavens and a new earth will emerge.”

“Set your hearts upon those things that are above and not those things that are upon the earth. In the midst of these great trials that are coming, my sons and daughters will grow unto maturity. I tell you that they will weather the storms. They will be fed and sustained by the rivers of my spirit. Dig deep within that reservoir, my people, and then you will be sustained. Look unto the rock from which you were hewn. Look at those who have gone before you. Consider the champions of the faith. Look at the entire arena that has gone before you. And then when the devastation comes you will know that you have not been alone. “

Stephen Hanson
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"WHO IS READY FOR THESE DAYS?"


Oct. 5, 2005

43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. Matt. 24:43-45

He said: "The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; 3 my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn [a] of my salvation. He is my stronghold, my refuge and my savior- from violent men you save me. 4 I call to the LORD, who is worthy of praise, and I am saved from my enemies. 2 Samuel 22:2-4

"I tell you that the time is quickly approaching when cities of refuge will be set aside for my people. For there will be a time of devastation that hits upon the United States. The cycle of the seasons will show this. For spring will give rise to summer, and summer will give rise to fall. I tell that great hordes are coming. An army of immense proportions will come upon your shores. Submarines and fleets will come to your coast. It will be at a time when your eyes are looking elsewhere. I tell you that the safety net has been lifted from your United States. No longer are you called the land of the free and the home of the brave; and yet I will reach out to those who are in need of Me. The great purging has begun, and the time of the great cleansing is coming. And yet, I will raise my sons and daughters up in this hour. Great manifestations of my spirit will happen. The lame will walk and the blind will see. Who is ready for the se days? Will you be ready and will you have your lamps trimmed and ready?"

Stephen Hanson
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"WARNINGS TO TAKE HEED"

Oct. 1, 2005

But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood.' Ezekiel 33:6

They say to the seers, "See no more visions!" and to the prophets, "Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions. Isaiah 30:10

"Be aware that I am a God who looks out for the needy and for those who have nothing. I have stockpiles of food and supplies for those who have need of them. In times of crisis I am there to swiftly come to the aid. But I tell you that there are even greater crisis’s and events that are coming upon the horizon. For I have told some that Russia and China will invade this United States. Will you be ready for the onslaught? Will there be a preparedness in your government for this action? I tell you that there will be places of refuge set aside for that time. Woe to those prophets and apostles who speak of brighter days ahead. Woe to those who say that all will be well. For many of them are well-known among you. They have buried their heads in the sand. But to those who speak my truth, you will warn the people and some will take heed. "

Stephen Hanson
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"WILL YOU BE READY?"

Sept. 10, 2005

36like men waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. I tell you the truth, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table and will come and wait on them. 38It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the second or third watch of the night. Luke 12:36-38

"I tell you that the time has come for my people to prepare for the days that are to come. You have seen the devastation that has come to the people of the south. You have seen the tsunami that hit the people of Malaysia and other areas as well. But I say that you will see other things like this come in the coming months. I say, to watch California. Watch and wait. You have heard some say that the big one is coming. I tell you that a big one is coming. A time will come when the entire state of California will be cut off from the rest of the United States. Beware and get ready. You have seen the plates move but they will move further than they have ever moved! You will see the signs of these things intensify."

"Woe to those who extort funds and take advantage of the needy. For the money that you take from them will be taken from you. The state of the economy will fall. The balancing scale will be tipped. The treasury will fail. Who will you run to in those days? Is there a disaster plan set in place? I tell you that I am the only one that will save you. "

Stephen Hanson
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“THIS IS THE BEGINNING”

Sept. 3, 2005

8All these are the beginning of birth pains. Matt. 24

3First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." 2 Peter 3

(The devastation that has hit the coastline of New Orleans and Mississippi, has been devastating and beyond belief to many of us. I know that all of this is still fresh in our hearts and minds. It is a time of unbelievable suffering and loss through all of this. In some ways, I almost hesitate to send out messages like this, but I must be obedient. I believe that more is yet to come. We pray for the many who have been through this, but at the same time, we must prepare for what lies ahead. Many have asked, “How should I prepare?” Seek the Lord and get your house in order, and He will let you know what you should be doing.)

“I tell you that Katrina is one of many other disasters that will hit the United States. The devastation that has hit this area has cost many lives and has caused the loss of much property, but I tell you that even greater damage will come. For my judgments have begun. You will see people without food and water in even more increasing numbers.

(The Lord showed me a scene of two large figures who held a huge net in their hands. It had been draped over a huge 3-D map of the United States. Then I saw each of them carefully roll the net up and take it off of the surface of the entire area of the United States.)

“Woe to those who say that their sin is far from Me. Woe to those who say that these days are not pointing to my soon return. I tell you that warning after warning has been given. I am not a God that gets pleasure out of the destruction of many. But when the sins of many have reached the magnitude that they have, then there are consequences that will follow.

I tell you people, care for those who are in need. Reach out to the many who have been without shelter during this time. But be ye prepared for the coming trials that are coming upon this earth.

Stephen Hanson
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"WHO WOULD ARISE ON THE THIRD DAY AND SPEAK FORTH THE WORD OF THE LORD?"

August 31, 2005

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Matthew 12:40

16 There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue,hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19 a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers. Proverbs 6:18-20

But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. Titus 3:9

"Be about my business, my people, for the days are short. Watch out for the dogs, those who would attempt to rip apart my word. You will know them by their fruit. Their tree is full of unhealthy things. They pretend to know my word but it is far from them. These are those who want to debate and argue all day long. They have their own groups and places where they meet together. I tell you that I am against them. My people, I have said in my word that it is good not to get into controversial matters, and some love to 'stir-up things.'"

"I have said before that a great civil war is coming. I tell you that it has begun. But it is not the north against the south. It involves those who are truly speaking for Me against those who are wayward. I tell you that there are some who say that they know my word; they speak it from the rooftops. But I tell you that there is a famine in the land, a famine for hearing the true word of the Lord. Many seek after signs and wonders, but I tell you that the only sign that will be given unto them is the sign of Jonah. For he came preaching repentance. The people did come to Me, but later on I came to destroy the land. But I also tell you that Jonah was in the belly of the whale for three days. On the third day he was spit out. On the third day my Son also arose. Who would arise on the third day and speak forth the word of the Lord? "

Stephen Hanson
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9/29/2009 6:53 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Daniel shows a 'play' and the prophecy foretold was for the end of the scattering before the regathering.

What play was being foretold by a "Persian" resistance of 21 days?

A Day for a Year.

1991 + 21 = 2012.

Three sevens. Foretold also in Daniel.

The 777. Also seen in Revelation is the X77, 7X7, 77X.
X = 10.

What could these numbers mean in the context of the last 21 years before the regathering called the second Exodus?

An analysis of these numbers based upon 1991 will show significant dates in the Persian resistance. Exact so far.

The next is 2010. That is a very significant period of time and begins several timelines to the Har Meggido/"Armageddon" if the signs are seen. Watching to see.

Last Shevuah before the 7th day.

The end of that Shevuah will have seen the re-gathering done at the Yom Teruah/Day of Trumpets (Dan 12, Hos 6, Mat 24, Rev 6, many more) and the end of it will be the Yom HaKippurim/Day of Atonement of the Restoration of all things. (Zech ch. 14, Eze 39, Rev many more) at Har Meggido/"Armageddon".

Dates can be off. The signs to watch for are shown in scriptures and to show the events regardless of the date but must be close in this last generation.

Yom Teruah of the re-gathering 2012/2013?
Yom HaKippurim of the restoration 2017/2018?

Timelines of the re-gathering in the scriptures:
Daniel: 21 year Persian resistance to 2012.

Jeremiah 46: 568 BC + (430*6) = 2012.
(First bondage was 430 years, second X 6, but not 7)

Daniel 12: Day/Day/1/2 Day 2500. 1335 at 2500. 1335 - 1290 = 45. 488 BC + 45 = Proclaimation to rebuild the temple / Ezra, Nehemiah, others. 2012 - 45 = 1967 The Fig Tree putting forth leaves.

There are timelines for the first coming of Messiah.
There are timelines for the scattering to the re-gathering.
There are timelines for the last Shevuah.
Thre are timelines for the restoration.

They are all there.

The Moadim/Feasts of YHVH (Lev 23) are being done by the Living Word. These Feasts are forever and belong to YHVH. They are not feasts of the "Jews" nor of any man. What does Lev 23 say plainly in a double emphasis right off? Whose feasts? Who is the Living Word. What does he fit into his timelines?

Who is doing the thing foretold in Deuteronomy 30 and that prayer is given in Daniel ch. 9? Yes we are and there are those who know. It is about the redeemed people who have remission of sin in the Living Word. There will not be any others in the Kingdom of YHVH when the true King returns. Selah. Shalom. Shema O'Yisrael of the redeemed who are alive and remain.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 783259
9/30/2009 8:50 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Claifornia...
Tick
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Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 778632
10/2/2009 10:51 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Most empires last about 238 years.
The USA at 219 years is near it's end as American Empire draws to a close.

Quote from:
[link to www.chuckbaldwinlive.com]

"
A historian and linguist from South Africa recently wrote me a fascinating letter, in which he chronicled the major world empires of history, dating the time of their rise and fall. Here is what his calculations look like:

Assyria (859-612 B.C.): a 247-year reign.
Persia (538-330 B.C.): a 208-year reign.
Greece (331-100 B.C.): a 231-year reign.
The Roman Republic (260-27 B.C.): a 233-year reign.
The Roman Empire (27 B.C.-180 A.D.): a 207-year reign.
The Arab Empire (634-880 A.D.): a 246-year reign.
The Mameluke Empire (1250-1517 A.D.): a 267-year reign.
The Ottoman Empire (1320-1570 A.D.): a 250-year reign.
Spain (1500-1750 A.D.): a 250-year reign.
Romanov Russia (1682-1916 A.D.): a 234-year reign.
Great Britain (1700-1950 A.D.): a 250-year reign.
The USA (1790-2009 A.D.): 219 years and counting.


My honorable historian-friend calculates America's reign using its post-Revolutionary War years. He notes that America's reign is currently at 219 years. He further notes that the average duration of every world superpower listed above is a little over 238 years.

One does not need to be a master mathematician or possess a Ph.D. to realize that America is fast approaching the mark in which every major world power in history has either collapsed or, at a minimum, lost its world leadership and power.

"
tempest
User ID: 758580
10/3/2009 1:28 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Jewish scholars have for centuries considered the
government of men to be 6000 years. They use a couple
of scriptures concerning 1000 years to man as a day
unto the L-rd. Coupled with a 6 day creation week,
a 6000 year duration is established.

In light of the messianic age of 1000 years as a rest
(the Millenium), we have more than just a theory. A
week of millenia is created.

What is interesting is where we are on that 6000
year period. The rabbinical Jewish calendar puts
us at 5769. However, after consulting references
on Jewish history it is found that time was
removed. A lot of time was removed. The time
removed was in excess of 200 years! The lost
time is missing from the durations of captivities
that the Jewish people suffered.

Why? The sun was created on the 4th day of creation.
Ancient Jewish scholars believed the Sun of
Righteousness - the Messiah would come on the 4th
millenial day! Yeshua came during that day.
The religious leaders would not have that.
They purposely altered the calendar.

Now the fun stuff.

we are quite sure how long all the captivities
add up to because slaves don't have the luxury of
keeping track of time. yet most estimates put the
lost time between 220 and 240 years. adding 220 to
5769 gives us 5989. getting too close to 240 puts
us over 6000 and that's not helpful nor fun.

remember, we aren't quite sure how long the missing time
is. But we are very close.

I'm not putting dates on anything. But we are very close
to the beginning of Daniel's 70th week!

To make it more interesting consider this:
Wormwood. Its a star. I am a literalist as much as
possible. Scripture does not declare it to be symbolic.
Its a star then; more fun that way.

For a star to appear it has to travel. An object of
this type would have a significant gravitational
affect on all other bodies in the solar system.
It takes time to traverse the solar system seen or
unseen. But its affects would be noticeable well
before it got into the inner solar system. Keep in
mind that this star will be attracted to the center
of gravity of our solar system. The sun has most of
the mass of the solar system. Hence the interloper
will make its way around the sun and back out in
an elliptical orbit. How much it affects us depends
on where we are in relation to Wormwood or any other
body it affects (Mars?).

Back in the early eighties I remember that scientists
discovered an anomoly in the orbits of Neptune and
Uranus. Something was pulling them below their orbits.
Some talk about another star or planet popped up,
but it just faded as newsworthy. Everyone and I
forgot all about it apparently.

If something travels from the distance of pluto and
at pluto's speed, then it would take easily 40 years
to reach the inner planets. Of course the object will
accelerate as it nears and we don't know its velocity
and mass and trajectory. So many unknowns. I use Pluto
as an example of a starting point and velocity; no
particular reason otherwise.

My point is sinse we are nearing the 6000th year
point, then we should be seeing the affects of
Wormwood now. Its anyone's guess how the sun would
react to an approaching star. Calming affect at first
might be witnessed. Then perhaps massive solar output.
After all, the earth is scorched during the trib.
Being anywhere besides Israel is extremely dangerous!
Everything this blog discusses involves the destruction
caused by Wormwood or the post devastation world
regathered under a demoniac leader. "come out of her
my people and do not partake of her judgements"!!!

Imagine, we could very well be witnessing the end of
man's self government and the appearance of our
Messiah! If so, then we should be seeing Gaza flare-up
and Ashkelon burn. Perhaps it will lead to the war
of Psalm 83 in which Israel will subdue all the local
hostile peoples and create a Greater Israel. Thereafter,
the two-houses of hebrews might reunite. The 144,000
sent out. And the remnant/church/hebrews would obey
and walk through the open door into the wilderness.
Then the man of lawlessness would be revealed. Then
3 1/2 years later, at the point of total annihilation,
the Lion of the Tribe of Judah appears and rescues
His servants, the church!

Wow, no room for a rapture!
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 778632
10/7/2009 5:11 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

The Fall of the Unholy American Empire - Part 1


Ozymandias
by Percy Bysshe Shelley

"I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal these words appear:
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away." [1]


Isaiah 40:7-8 (King James Version)
7The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.
8The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.


I remember watching the movie "Ghandhi" in college and being very influenced by it. Ghandhi led one of the very few successful non-violent independence movements in the history of mankind and he based it on "turning the other cheek" and "loving one's neighbor as oneself". He took teachings from Yahushua ha'Mashiach and based the Indian independence movement on these which brought down a pillar of British colonialism. Near the end of the movie, Ghandhi speaks of his confidence of overcoming British Imperialism though England is near it's height of power: he says something to the effect "every oppresive kingdom or government has fallen in the test of time, every one, every last one of them".

Ghandhi's observation is true. Man's glory is depicted in Daniel's vision of a statue of a man with a head of fine gold (representing the Babylonian kingdom), breast and arms of silver (representing the Medo-Persian kingdom which followed), belly and thighs of bronze (representing the Greek kingdom under Alexander the Great), legs of iron (representing the Roman Empire) and feet made of iron and clay representing the evil New World Order which is coming under anti-christ and the false prophet. But this statue of man representing all of man's kingdoms and glory is brought down and destroyed by a "stone not without human hands", that is, Yahushuah ha'Mashiach, for it's been given to man to rule/work for six days, that is, six thousand years, and then comes the Sabbath rest of the millenial kingdom under the rule of Yahushuah. This time is not far off, assuming the Jewish calendar is accurate, since the Jewish year is currently 5769. [2]

But even more modern history reveals Ghandhi's observation to be true. Napolean, emperor of France, only held rule over Europe for a while and met his fate at Waterloo. The Spanish colonies have now gained independence as nations and Spain is but a shadow of it's former self. And England with it's great empire lost it's colonies also. So man's glory fades like a flower. And now the United States of America stands at the forefront of nations as premier among the list of nations but it's flower will also fade for it has abandoned YHVH. This nation may well have passed it's apex of glory. The next generation may not do as well as their parents perhaps for the first time in it's history.

When Jeremiah the prophet prophesied King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon would overtake Judah because Judah had forsaken YHVH, few believed him. The king of Judah mistreated him and false prophets said Babylon would not win, after all, Judah was the apple of YHVH's eye. And nowadays, many may resist the idea of the fall of this nation, after all aren't we a Christian nation. But this nation has sinned against YHVH. There have been more than 45 million abortion of innocent children since 1973! [3] This nation has legalized homosexual behavior and homosexual marriages are now legal in many states. Hollywood has spread it's smute throughout the world, such that the film industries within many nations are now rather small having been replaced by American films. "Sex in the City" is seen in Russia, for instance. America has violated the sovereignty of many nations through the CIA and other black ops. It has used the IMF and World Bank to indebt nations and have them agree to conditionalities such as privitization of essential utilities which lead to higher prices for electricity and water and removal of tariffs which leave undeveloped economies exposed to unfettered outside competition. And so the U.S. takes it mantra of "free markets" and "privitization" throughout the world leaving the poor countries destroyed and vulnerable. The souls of the oppressed have cried out to YHVH and this nation is not guiltless nor will it be left unpunished. (Read accompanying Word document on American Imperialism for more details.) It's been well documented that the fall of Rome was preceded by it's decadence - they were caught with the gladiator fights and the killing of Christians. Are we so different, constantly entertained by TV and cable and it's violent programs?

But you may say "We were founded as a Christian nation." Was America founded as a Christian nation? If so, then why were so many of the leaders of the American revolution Freemasons? Freemasons are initiated into Freemasonry the same as Wiccan witches are initiated into witchcraft. Consider that 15 of 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were Freemasons or probable Freemasons, 28 of 40 signers of the Constitution were Freemason or probable Freemasons. Many of the leaders of the Continental Army were Freemasons. The Boston Tea Party was planned in a tavern known as "Freemason's Arms" and "Headquarters of the Revolution". [4] The revered Benjamin Franklin was not only a member of the occult Freemasonry but also of the Hellfire Club which had orgies and possibly conducted satanic rituals and sacrifices. The motto of the Hellfire Club was "do what you will" which Anton Lavey later took as the ultimate thesis of Satanism. And so we honor the Satanist Benjamin Franklin by putting his image on the $100 bill. [5] So why didn't they teach you this in American History?

A few thoughts on George Washington. George Washington was a Freemason and was even given the oath to become President of the United States by Robert Livingston, Grand Master of the New York Masonic Lodge with a Bible taken from the Masonic Lodge. Yet he seems to be a prayerful and godly man in many accounts. This can be understood that unlike Wiccans who know they are going into witchcraft, most Masons do not know they are taking occultic oaths or performing occultic rituals since Masonry is veiled in symbollic allegory. George Washington had little to do with Masonry in the last thirty years of his life. Consider the quote from George Washington below.

"I have little more to add than thanks for your wishes, and favorable sentiments, except to correct an error you have run into of my presiding over the English lodges in this country. The fact is I preside over none, nor have I been in one more than once or twice within the last thirty years. I believe, notwithstanding, that none of the lodges in this country are contaminated with the principles ascribed to the society of the Illuminati.
Signed, GEORGE WASHINGTON."

I disagree with Washington that Freemasonry was not part of the Illuminati web of secret societies. I find it interesting that according to one of George Washington's soldiers, George Washington had a vision about the American Revolution, the Civil War and one final war where America was greatly tested (possibly the Third World War when Russia and China attack the U.S.). I'm not going to tell you it's a vision from YHVH since I don't know. You might find it interesting as I did.

Please read the link below if to read George Washington's vision of America:
[link to www.propheticroundtable.org]

So now that it's clear that occultic Freemasonry played a large role in the American Revolution, you may protest and say that after it's founding, America has been a Christian nation. This country has done many good deeds and there are many godly people who serve YHVH. But why have so many of the presidents of America been Masons? Consider the list below of Masonic presidents of America. There have been 15 Masonic Presidents out of 43 Presidents. You may wish to consider George Bush Sr. and George Bush Jr. as members of occultic Illuminati secret societies since they are both members of the Skull and Bones. Also consider that many losing presidential candidates have been Masons or Skull and Bones members, creating a win-win for the the Illuminati, such as when George Bush Jr. ran against John Kerry while both are Skull and Bones members. Other losing Masonic Presidential candidates include Barry Goldwater, Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace.

" George Washington, 1st President, 1789 - 1797, Commanding General during American Revolution, made a Mason August 4, 1753, in Fredericksburg Lodge (now No. 4), A. F. & A. M., Fredericksburg, Virginia.
James Monroe, 5th President, 1817 - 1825, made a Mason November 9, 1775, in Williamsburg Lodge (now No. 6), A.F. & A.M., Williamsburg, Virginia.
Andrew Jackson, 7th President, 1829 - 1837 Harmony Lodge No. 1, Nashville, Tennessee, an Honorary Member of Federal Lodge No. 1, F. & A.M., Washington, D.C., and Jackson Lodge No. 1, F. & A.M., Tallahassee, Florida. In 1822 and 1823 he served as the Grand Master of Masons in Tennessee.
James Knox Polk, 11th President, 1845 - 1849, made a Mason September 4, 1820, in Columbia Lodge No. 31, F. & A.M., Columbia, Tennessee.
James Buchanan, 15th President, 1857 - 1861, made a Mason January 24, 1817, in Lodge No. 43 (it has no name), F. & A.M., Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
Andrew Johnson, 17th President, 1865 - 1869, made a Mason during May, 1851, in Greeneville Lodge No. 119 (now No. 3), F. & A.M., Greeneville, Tennessee.
James Abram Garfield, 20th President. 1881, made a Mason November 22, 1864, in Columbus Lodge No. 30 F. & A.M., Columbus, Ohio.
William McKinley, 25th President, 1897 - 1901, made a Mason May 3, 1865, in Hiram Lodge No. 21, A.F. & A.M., Winchester, Virginia.
Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President, 1901 - 1909, made a Mason April 24, 1901, in Matinecock Lodge No. 806, F. & A.M., Oyster Bay, New York.
William Howard Taft, 27th President, 1909 - 1913 - Chief Justice Supreme Court 1921 - 1930, made a "Mason at Sight" in an "Occassional Lodge" called for that purpose on February 18, 1909, in the Scottish Rite Cathedral, Cincinnati, Ohio, by Charles S. Hoskinson, Grand Master of Masons in Ohio.
Warren Gamaliel Harding, 29th President, 1921 - 1923, made a Mason August 27, 1920, in Marion Lodge No. 70, F. & A.M., Marion, Ohio.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd President, 1933 - 1945, made a Mason November 28, 1911, in Holland Lodge No. 8, F. & A.M., New York, New York, the same Lodge in which George Washington, the Nation's first President, held Honorary membership.
Harry S. Truman, 33rd President, 1945 - 1951, made a Mason March 18, 1909, in Belton Lodge No. 450, A.F. & A.M., Belton, Missouri. He served as the Grand Master of Masons of Missouri in 1940.
Initiated: February 9, 1909, Belton Lodge No. 450, Belton, Missouri.
In 1911, several Members of Belton Lodge separated to establish Grandview Lodge No. 618, Grandview, Missouri, and Brother Truman served as its first Worshipful Master. At the Annual Session of the Grand Lodge of Missouri, September 24-25, 1940, Brother Truman was elected (by a landslide) the ninety-seventh Grand Master of Masons of Missouri, and served until October 1, 1941. Brother and President Truman was made a Sovereign Grand Inspector General, 33º, and Honorary Member, Supreme Council on October 19,1945 at the Supreme Council A.A.S.R. Southern Jurisdiction Headquarters in Washington D.C., upon which occasion he served as Exemplar (Representative) for his Class. He was also elected an Honorary Grand Master of the International Supreme Council, Order of DeMolay. On May 18, 1959, Brother and Former President Truman was presented with a fifty-year award, the only U.S. President to reach that golden anniversary in Freemasonry.
Gerald R. Ford, Jr. 38th President, 1974 - 1977. He was raised to the Sublime degree of Master Mason on May 18, 1951 in Columbia Lodge No. 3, F. &.A.M., of Washington, D.C., as a courtesy for Malta Lodge No. 465, F. & A.M. of Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Lyndon Baines Johnson 1908-1973. 36th President, 1963 - 1969. Entered Apprentice degree Johnson City Lodge No. 561, Johnson City, Texas October 30, 1937. Did not advance. "
Quoted list excerpted from [link to www.calodges.org]

Another interesting thing about our presidents is how many of them are inter-related and royalty. All 43 presidents have European royal blood. 34 of our presidents are related to the Charlemagne, the French king. 19 of the presidents are related to King Edward III of England. All our presidents have been related to the Windsor-Bush bloodline, otherwise known as the Merovingian bloodline. Consider that George W. Bush is related to 16 former presidents! Apparently, the presidential candidate with the most royal genes wins the election. [7] We know the statistical probability of the presidents having royal blood and being inter-related is quite low so there's something going on here. [Burke's Peerage, David dIcke (a New Ager who's researched the Illuminati) and Fritz Springmeier have all done research into the royal bloodlines.] Barrack Obama is related to at least six former U.S. presidents. [8] Obama and Dick Cheney are eight cousins. [9] Obama and President Bush are 11th cousins. [10] McCain is a descendant of Merovingian Robert the Bruce, King William I "The Lion", King of Scotland, and is sixth cousin to Laura Bush. [11] Apparently, running for president is all in the family, or more rightly put, only in the Merovingian family.

According to Fritz Springmeier there are 13 Illuminati bloodlines, not including the Merovingian bloodline:

1. Astor Bloodline
2. Bundy Bloodline
3. Collins Bloodline
4. DuPont Bloodline
5. Freeman Bloodline
6. Kennedy Bloodline
7. Li Bloodline
8. Onassis Bloodline
9. Reynolds bloodline
10. Rockefeller Bloodline
11. Rothschild Bloodline
12. Russell Bloodline
13. Van Duyn Bloodline
[ Merovingian] (European Royal Families)

Interconnected families:
Disney Bloodline
Krupp Bloodline
McDonald Bloodline

So the question is where do these bloodlines come from? The European royalty say that they are of the line of King David, through Yahushua. They believe the Da Vinci Code lie that Yahushua married Mary Magdalene, had children, and one of their daughters married into the Merovingian line. David dIcke says that the Annunaki/Watchers which came after the flood to the land of Sumer interbred with human females, perhaps even through genetic experimentation, to create nephilim hybirds. These nephilim offspring of the Watchers then make up the royal dynasties of Babylon, Egypt, the Indus Valley which later went into Europe and are now considered the European royal families. A third line of thought, is that when Joshua conquered the land of Canaan, the Israelites failed to wipe out all the nephilim there. The tribe of Dan intermixed with the nephilim and then migrated to the British Isles and that this is the European royal bloodline. (Interestingly, the anti-Messiah is supposed to come from the tribe of Dan according to Iraneaus and/or Hippolytus.) These bloodlines inter-marry among themselves and thus keep the purity of the bloodline. Truthfully, I don't know the origin of the bloodlines though I suspect Watcher ancestry, that is, nephilim. It's interesting that the royal families of Asia trace their heritage to the Dragon lineage. The Mayans talk about Iguana-men who taught them pyramid building and demanded human sacrifice. The Hopi indians have the Sheti or Snake-brothers. In India, there are legends of the snake-like Nagas who live underneath the earth. In Africa, Zulu shamans speak of the reptilian Chitahuri, who genetically modified mankind. Are these just retellings of the Sumerian accounts of the Annunaki ( means "those who from heaven to earth came") who came and mated with human woman (possibly through gene splicing), and whose nephilim offspring are the royal blood-lines of the world today? This same story of the Annunaki could easily have been spread throughout the world after the confusion of languages at the Tower of Babel. Or perhaps these cultures were revisited by the Watchers/Annunaki.

It's interesting that some of these Watcher/Annuanki influenced cultures share some common attributes such as reptilian visitors from the sky, pyramid/ziggurat building, human sacrifices, high level technology, advanced astronomy and a sudden decline or disappearance of the the civilization such as that of the Maya. When the Watcher/Annunaki and their nephilim offspring begin to take center stage as I suspect they will in the end times, YHVH will once again take them down quickly as He has done before.

So allow me to summarize: no nation remains king of the hill forever, including this nation, and this nation has sinned against YHVH and has been led by many presidents who have been masons and thus initiated into the occult. And there's even reason to believe that most, if not all presidents, are of European royalty which may be of nephilim blood dating back to the Annunaki of Sumeria. It shouldn't be too shocking to believe that Satan as the prince of this world has set up those who pledge allegiance to him (i.e. masons) and the hybird children of fallen angels (i.e. nephilim) as rulers of earth.

So what then is the judgment that will come upon this nation? YHVH has judged nations by bringing the sword/war, famine, plague/pestilence and wild beasts. Time after time these are the tools YHVH has used to judge nations.

Deuteronomy 32:24-25 (Amplified Bible)
24They shall be wasted with hunger and devoured with burning heat and poisonous pestilence; and the teeth of beasts will I send against them, with the poison of crawling things of the dust.
25From without the sword shall bereave, and in the chambers shall be terror, destroying both young man and virgin, the sucking child with the man of gray hairs.

Jeremiah 21:9 (Amplified Bible)
9He who remains in this city [Jerusalem] shall die by the sword and by famine and by pestilence. But he who goes out and passes over to the Chaldeans who besiege you, he shall live, and his life shall be to him his only booty [as a prize of war].

Ezekiel 5:17 (Amplified Bible)
17And I will send upon you hunger and wild beasts, and they shall bereave you [of your loved ones]; and pestilence and blood shall pass through you, and I will bring the sword upon you. I the Lord have spoken it.

Revelation 6:7-8 (Amplified Bible)
7When the Lamb broke open the fourth seal, I heard the fourth living creature call out, Come!
8So I looked, and behold, an ashy pale horse [[a]black and blue as if made so by bruising], and its rider's name was Death, and Hades (the realm of the dead) followed him closely. And they were given authority and power over a fourth part of the earth to kill with the sword and with famine and with plague (pestilence, disease) and with wild beasts of the earth.(A)

Prophet Tom Deckard had a vision where he saw men in a pickup truck driving in a gravel road. The men saw a cow, then shot the cow and went to butcher it in the field. Deckard asked "Where in the world is this?" And the answer given to him was "America". This vision indicates that famine will come to America. Prophet Tom Deckard also had a vision where a chunk of California fell into the ocean. Prophet Tom Deckard has prophesied that the bird flu would at one point become air-borne and then will quickly spread through out the world. There will be a national quarantine and millions will die. Businesses and the stock market will be shut down because of the bird flu and the national quarantine. Prophet Deckard recommends storing up at least a three to six month supply of food and rotating it by eating the older food and replacing with fresher food. Prophet Deckard had a vision where a newsperson on TV said you might as well go out and burn your dollars since they are worthless. He saw people breaking into stores, trying to get money from banks and people committing suicide. He recommends buying some silver and gold and other commodities. I would add don't buy the silver ETF SLV or the gold ETF GLD as substitutes for owning silver or gold since this does not guarantee delivery of physical gold or silver and it will be hard to convert to cash if the stock market is closed or the dollar is worthless. Do not store your silver or gold in safe deposit boxes in banks since the banks may close if the dollar becomes worthless. It's better to buy gold and silver coins and have them in your possession, although this of course introduces the risk of them being stolen. Buying gold and silver bars is fine but coins are preferable because they are better suited for bartering because of their lower value. Just so you know, it seems rather difficult to get many gold or silver coins at this time. Apparently, many people are doing this and so supply is tightening. It's up to you to decide if you want to convert some of your assets to gold and silver coins along with other commodoties such as food and energy. [12] [13]
Please see the video [link to www.youtube.com] and [link to www.youtube.com]

The Prophet Dumutru Duduman prophesied that China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba and other countries are conspiring to attack the U.S. He says China will attack Tawain, North Korea will attack South Korea, and I think he mentions a war in the Middle East were Israel is attacked. The U.S. cannot handle a three front war protecting Tawain, South Korea and Israel. Also, at this time our troops are scattered everywhere leaving us vulnerable at home. In a sneak attack Russia then nukes California, New York, Florida and the city of Las Vegas. It's interesting that Richard Day said the NWO folks would first morally corrupt the coastal cities and then work inward. Well, in the Duduman prophecies it's exactly these areas that get nuked first. Also, these coastal areas are vulnerable to tsunamis, and California is vulnerable to earthquakes and fires. It seems YHVH allowed moral corruption in areas that are well suited for the coming judgment. Duduman said that Cuba, Mexico and some other nations would help Russia in attacking the U.S.. Chineese troops would also join in the land invasion.

I believe Duduman says the Pope will be the false prophet. Later in the war, Russia attacks Europe and then China and Japan pursue Russia into Europe. In Paris, they meet and make Russia their leader to invade Israel (fulfilling the Magog and Gog prophecy of Ezekial 38) and that's when Yahshua ha'Mashiach comes to put an end to this at Armageddon where He defends Israel and defeats the invading armies.

It's not hard to see the Duduman prophecies playing out since we already see the strategic alliances between Russia, China, North Korea, Japan (yes, they fear China more than us), Iran, Syria, Cuba, Venezuala and other countries. And the big bear, Russia, has already arisen to strike terror after being wounded in their financial troubles just as Duduman and Deckard predicted. Things are heating up with the Russian invasion of Georgia and sending ships to Venezuala. And this war may have already started with silent weapons such as HAARP and scalar weapons. The Katrina Hurricane that struck New Orleans reportedly had scalar signatures indicating scalar weapons may have been used to enhance the storm and direct it to New Orleans. The Russians have scalar weapons allegedly along with Israel. You may wish to read up on scalar weapons to understand why the next war will be very terrible. The U.S. has been accused of creating the recent earthquakes in China by using HAARP technology. HAARP can be used to heat up the ionosphere so that it elevates. Then when no more energy is put into the ionosphere it comes back down and bounces back up which creates stress on the land creating earthquakes. When this happens you'll often see lights in the sky which is exactly what was seen before te Chineese earthquakes. [14] [15]

In the end, YHVH has not given us a spirit of fear but of sound mind, so don't let your soul be troubled. It makes sense to store a food supply to last several months if their will be a national quarantine because the bird flu is coming and another plague after that. It makes sense to at least partially diversify out of dollars to real assets such as gold and silver bullion and coins or strong currencies like the Chineese remnibi or Swiss franc if the dollar will become worthless at one point in the future. Yet when the time for the mark of the beast comes, people might as well burn their dollars and throw their gold and silver on the streets since they will be worthless since they will not be an official means of exchange.
There is only one way to live and that is by faith in YHVH for if you do not stand in your faith of YHVH then you will not stand!

As things get worse, more people will start to talk about revolt and revolution. Mind you, I don't have a problem with peaceful protests though I've seen
black hooded anarchists allowed to cause trouble and destruction and the police do absolutely nothing dishonoring their duty to uphold the law. I've also seen free speech zones set up to limit people's free speech. In a way, I'm surprised that there haven't been more protests but perhaps people are unaware of what's going on or like the frog in warm water people have been mesmerized into inaction. But this does indicate to me that there is something wrong with the American people in general.

But back to the thoughts on violent revolution. The Jacobins planned and carried out the bloody French Revolution. The storming of the Bastille was a planned event. Duduman prophecied that the Communists will lead an internal revolt in the U.S. to destabilize the U.S. prior to a Russian attack. John Todd, probably the highest level Illuminati ever to defect, warned Christians that the Illuminati had a plan called helter skelter where they would release many prisoners and other violent people to foment revolution. Do you really think a violent revolution would benefit this nation? Do you really think that would be a move from YHVH? I've heard it said that less than 10% of Russians partook in the Bolshevik Revolution yet they overthrew the government. So apparently it doesn't take many people to start a revolution and the Illuminati/Freemasons/Jesuits have alot of practice at sucessfully manufacturing national revolutions. I say this as a rebuke to those who let their anger get the better of them and think such thoughts.

There's more to say so I hope to continue on this theme of the fall of the unholy American Empire.


[1] [link to holyjoe.org]
[2] [link to www.chabad.org]
[3] [link to www.guttmacher.org]
[4] [link to www.rapidnet.com]
[5] [link to www.associatedcontent.com]
[6] [link to www.gospeltruth.net]
[7] [link to www.atlanteanconspiracy.com]
[8] [link to www.youtube.com]
[9] [link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
[10] [link to rawstory.com]
[11] [link to watch.pair.com]
[12] [link to www.youtube.com]
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[15] [link to www.youtube.com]
Watchman of Yahweh
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10/7/2009 5:36 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Corrections

For some reason when I paste an article into Godlikeproductions.com certain words are transformed such as "David dIcke" turning into "David dIcke" and "agent provocateur" has turned into "agent provocateur". I don't know if this is happening because of something in my computer or because of something godlikeproductions.com is doing. I won't accuse without having proof. Has anyone else had this happen to them?

Also I want to make some additional corrections. Tom Deckard mentions gold when talking about the dollar being worthless. He does not say silver or other commodoties as indicated in the article. Also, he says that it's a Thomas 1:1, in other words, it's not from the Lord but from his wisdom and understanding that he believes gold will be a good alternative to holding dollars.

Another correction. Duduman prophesies about China invading Taiwan but does not talk about a North Korea invasion of South Korea nor does he talk about a Middle East war. It is Chuck Youngbrant that prophesies about all three wars. Duduman confirms the Chineese invasion of Taiwan.
Watchman of Yahweh
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10/7/2009 5:55 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Ok, it just happened again. It doesn't matter whether I type it or cut and paste it.

David dIcke gets transformed into "David dIcke". I spelled his named differently in hopes the converter will not change his name. It's godlikeproductions that is doing this, I'm convinced of it now. OK, David dIcke is a New Ager, claimed to be the Messiah, took some pschedelic drugs to get in trance and communicate with aliens but he shouldn't be disrespected by having his name changed like that. He's done some very good research and yes some lousy stuff when he get's into his New Age dribble.

And A?l'e?x j))o""n:e??///s name gets converted into "agent provocateur". I'm aware of the charge that he works for the Jesuits. He's done a great job of waking people up yet he may be contrived opposition. Anyone I've ever talked to who has heard him regularly says they become infected with a spirit of anger just like Alex. There's times he's been sensational and hurt the truth movement. He may very will be Jesuit contrived opposition. But if I mention his name why should some program modify what I wrote. So now you know I am displeased with the editing of my articles by godlikeproductions.com .
Anonymous Coward
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10/7/2009 6:34 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote


bump
Anonymous Coward
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10/7/2009 6:44 PM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

What a fuckin' idiot. You take all of the Zetatalk predictions and survival suggestions and repackage them as some kind of religious prophecy? Do you really think anyone will buy that shit?
Get a fuckin' life.
Watchman of Yahweh
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10/8/2009 4:50 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

What a fuckin' idiot. You take all of the Zetatalk predictions and survival suggestions and repackage them as some kind of religious prophecy? Do you really think anyone will buy that shit?
Get a fuckin' life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788717


What I've tried to do is look for prophecies given to Christians and try to come up with the common prophesied events and looked for some timing prophecies or prophecies with signs to help with the timing. What becomes really clear is there is many Christian prophecies mention:

economic collapse, dollar collapse, stock market collapse
US civil war, riots
Obama last president of USA as constitutional republic
China invading Taiwan, Mideast war
great CA earthquake, great midwest earthquake
east coast and Gulf of Mexico flooded (meteors?)
Russian subs nuke east and west coast cities
China invades from west, Russia from east
Mexico, Cuba, Nicaragua help China and Russia
USA eventually wins after tremendous losses

I've documented the prophecies with links in this thread so no one has to take my word on the prophecies. I can't say every prophecy is from Yahweh but it's hard to overlook consistently prophesied events. As far as timing Thomas Gibson says we will be at war by 2010. In a sense we are already at war with Iraq and Afghanistan, but maybe he means against a nuclear power like N. Korea, China or Iran. We'll see what happens.

Why would I listen to zetatalk. Didn't they call planet x''s coming wrong several years ago? They are discredited in my book. And the zeta reticuli are demons in cloned bodies or fallen angels. Why would I listen to them? But even some New Agers are giving some of the same events so what can I say except Satan likes to mix up some truth with lies for a clever deception. Deception is Satan's modus operandi after all. I offer up my research free for those who are interested. You are free to take or leave it. We all make our choices.
Watchman of Yahweh
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10/8/2009 4:52 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Fall of the Unholy American Empire - Part 2

"Four sorrows ... are certain to be visited on the United States. Their cumulative effect guarantees that the U.S. will cease to resemble the country outlined in the Constitution of 1787.

First, there will be a state of perpetual war, leading to more terrorism against Americans wherever they may be and a spreading reliance on nuclear weapons among smaller nations as they try to ward off the imperial juggernaut.

Second is a loss of democracy and Constitutional rights as the presidency eclipses Congress and is itself transformed from a co-equal 'executive branch' of government into a military junta.

Third is the replacement of truth by propaganda, disinformation, and the glorification of war, power, and the military legions.

Lastly, there is bankruptcy, as the United States pours its economic resources into ever more grandiose military projects and shortchanges the education, health, and safety of its citizens."

Chalmers Johnson, quoted from his book "Sorrows of Empire"
Source of quote: [link to www.the7thfire.com]
Online book: [link to www.pcusa.org]


As previously discussed, YHVH uses the four judgments of famine, war, plague and wild animals (pestilence) to judge nations if they refuse to repent. America, being the Babylon spoken of in Revelations 18, will fall as prophesied by Dumitru Duduman. Judgment will start slowly with fires like those in California, droughts, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes and earthquakes. As the nation refuses to repent, judgment will start to speed up and America will be visited with plagues like the bird flu, famine and unwinnable wars (such as Iraq and Afghanistan) as prophesied by Tom Deckard. A large portion of California is prophesied to fall into the ocean after a massive earthquake. World War 3 starts when China attacks Taiwan and North Korea invades South Korea with a possible Middle East altercation involving Israel. As the U.S. tries to defend Taiwan, South Korea and Israel it's military defenses will be severely stretched. The Communists within America will launch a revolution against the U.S. government. Then with the U.S. in internal turmoil, Russia with the help of Cuba, Mexico, Nicaragua and two other countries (possibly Venezuala and Bolivia?) will launch a surprise nuclear strike on the United States. Russian submarines will nuke California, Las Vegas, New York and Florida. America Babylon will burn and be destroyed in one day. China and Japan will also join the attack on the United States. Then Russia will invade Europe but China will dissolve it's agreement with Russia and pursue and attack Russia with the help of Japan. The Chineese forces will attack Russian forces invading Europe but something happens (perhaps a fear of an incoming invasion from space) and they make a treaty at Paris and agree to attack Israel with Russia as their leader. This will be the battle of Armageddon and may also be the Gog and Magog war of Ezekial 38. Yahshua ha'Mashiach comes in the clouds of heaven, gathers his elect from the four corners of the earth, destroys the invading armies with the sword of his mouth, and sets foot on the Mount of Olives to establish His Millenial kingdom on earth. This is my understanding based on Scripture and prophecies of Dumitru Duduman and Tom Deckard. YHVH warns his children to come out of Babylon lest they partake of the plague and judgments that are coming upon Babylon. Pray, fast and seek wisdom from YHVH as to what preparations to make and when the time will be to flee.

But there are other judgments that will visit the American Empire according to Chalmers Johnson, a historian who has studied the fall of empires. According to Johnson the U.S. will be in a perpetual state of war, citizens will lose their constitutional rights (and privacy I might add), the government will lie to it's citizens and the nation will suffer bankruptcy (with the fall of the dollar and the collapse of the financial system). It's clear that we are already in a state of perpetual war since the "war on terrorism" has no definite nation behind it that we can defeat so the boogie man is always out there lurking. This may be better for the Military Industrial Complex than the Cold War with the Soviet Union because how do you defeat an unnamed enemy? It's already obvious that the war against Afghanistan and Iraq will be protracted, no-win wars like the Vietnam War.

I've previously written on the lose of our rights. The president can name a citizen an "enemy combatant" and hold them indefinitely if Habeas Corpus is repealed. If Posse Comitatus is repealed then the American military can be used on American citizens which would happen if martial law is declared. By the way, Posse Comitatus was already violated when the American military was used in the Waco incident. The Patriot Acts have removed many of the constraints on illegal search and seizure. The U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled that eminent domain can be used to get private property even for private use. The government never pays full and fair price for confiscated property through eminent domain. Generally speaking, the assessed value of property for tax purposes (which is what the government pays) is usually much lower than market value. I understand if eminent domain is used so that roads, bridges and other national infrastructure can be built. But now eminent domain can be used by local government to help a private developer get land for a mall! Expect so called "hate speech" laws that prohibit people from speaking about the evils of homosexuality or against radical Islam. There is a resolution before the United Nations to prohibit anyone from speaking against Islam. Pastors will be jailed for preaching the truth. This is already happening around the world. Free speech will be unconstitutionally restricted to "free speech zones". Gun control laws will restrict gun ownership. The framers of the Constitution realized that a good defense against a tyrannical government is a well-armed citizenry. The Illuminati absolutely do not want the citizens armed when they launch their "helter-skelter" campaign of terror when ex-prisoners and lawless ones are launched to create havoc. For the record, I support non-violence. YHVH protected Abraham from the fire, protected Shadrach, Mishach and Abednego from the fiery furnace and saved Daniel in the lion's den and He can do the same for me and you if we remain faithful to Him. Elijah called fire down on those who came after him. There will be supernatural protection and provision in the last days. National ID laws will be passed with the stated reason of controlling immigration and catching terrorists but the real reason will be to introduce a mind-controlling computer chip in the right hand or forehead, yes, the mark of the beast. The national ID card will be pushed as being a good idea because medical, driver's liscence, educational and financial information such as credit/debit card information can be stored on it. The reason that will be given to move from a national ID card to an implantable chip is that the national ID card can be duplicated/stolen resulting in identity theft crimes. Have you noticed how there has been no meaningful thoughtful effort to prevent identity theft crime. It's as if the government is allowing it to happen so that they will have reason in the future to go to an implantable chip. Sadly, many so called "Christians" will take the implantable chip (mark of the beast) because they reason it can't be the mark of the beast since that happens in the tribulation period and they will be raptured before that. Others will take it because they will be quoted Scripture that they are supposed to submit to the authoriities but are not told that YHVH's law/Torah supercedes any and all man-made law. YHVH commands us not to take the mark of the beast.

Johnson also indicates that the government will provide disinformation. Let's call it what it is - disinformation is lies. I've already written to you about how the government has contrived reasons and lied to the American people to convince them that the nation should go to war. You may wish to research how there were many warnings of the attack on Pearl Harbor which went unheeded, the sensationalism in the press over the sinking of the Maine that led to the Spanish War without just cause, how Roosevelt secretly agreed with Winston Churchill to enter World War 2 while campaigning on a policy of isolationism, the lies of the Gulf of Tonkin incident that got us involved in the Vietnam War and the evidence that the World Trade Center attacks were an inside government job. But the government tells us other lies also, and we tolerate it. They lie when they say unemployment is in the 5% range because they fail to include those who want to work but no longer report to the unemployment office, those who have jobs but are underemployed and those who work part-time but want to work full-time. They lie about the inflation statistics when they exclude food and energy because their prices are volatile. But whom do you know that doesn't eat or use electricity, natural gas or gas as a normal part of life? They lie about inflation when they play funny money games with the statistics by allowing substitution of items and quality of improvement adjustments in their inflation calculations. Inflation is more around the 10 to 12% range than the 2-4% range the government says. The government is also deceitful in no longer publishing M3, the broadest measure of money supply, to keep it's citizenry ignorant of how much the money supply is being increased which is usually a good indication of dollar debasement and future inflation. But yet we tolerate these lies and say that's the way it is.

Our privacy is also being eroded. The government can know your location by using the GPS signal on your cell phone. They can tell what buses and trains you take if you use the Chicago Card of the CTA which identifies it's owner. You get a 10% discount for using the Chicago Card which identifies you rather than getting a card which does not. If you have an I-PASS they know what toll roads you've taken and when, since you pay electronically through the RFID transponder. New cars as well as rental cars are being equipped with GPS to track time and location of the car. Of course, as a last resort they can always track someone through high resolution satelite imagery. There are also many cameras that are being put in American cities such as Chicago and even in London. Some of the cameras are for the local police and others are for Homeland Security. The Illuminati's all-seeing eye is coming to fruition.

But not only does the government know where we are but also what we are saying. The government was caught at an AT&T location listening in on calls without search warrants. Again, a violation of the Constitution. They've recently passed legislation to protect the telecommunications firms from getting sued for violating people's privacy. This monitoring of all phone communications is called the Echelon system. Allegedly, this system monitors all phone calls looking for key phrases. Echelon also intercepts microwave and satelite communications. They probably tap into the internet also. I know Internet Service Providers (ISPs) and internet portals such as Google often keep track of what websites you have visited and may keep a record of all your emails possibly even after you delete them from their server. The government has requested access to this information in the past in criminal cases but may broaden it's use in the future. If you've seen movies like Batman Begins and Eagle Eye you'v seen hints that the government may already have developed techoology to listen in on your cell phone even when it is turned off! Dr. Richard Day, ex-president of Planned Parenthood and NWO insider said the electrical wiring in your home can be used to listen in on you. He also said that when you saw cable TV trucks roaming around you would know that they could now spy on you through the TV. Cable TV trucks started roaming around when cable TV transitioned from a one-way analog signal to a two-way digital signal. If the cable TV set top box has a camera or microphone it can now spy on you and send that information back since cable TV is now bi-directional.

By knowing what websites you've visited they can take note of your interests and hobbies. By analyzing your email and phone calls they can ascertain your personality type, whether you believe in Yahshuah or not, who your associates and friends are and more. By analyzing your phone records they can easily tell who your friends and family are. Those who use social networks like Facebook and MySpace are also revealing their friends and family. When the time comes for martial law and rounding up people, the government will have a good idea who to just kill because they will never turn against YHVH, which people they believe can be "re-educated" or tortured to convince them to take the mark of the beast and which will agree with the anti-Christ and the New World Order.

The government can also easily ascertain your educational background if educational institutions give them access to their database. The government also knows about your financial information. Of course the government already knows how much you make, where you bank and where you have brokerage accounts, what investments you've made and how they went and how much interest you made. We continually provide this information to them when we file our income tax forms. Even if we did not, the companies we work for, the banks where we save and the brokerage firms we use would provide that information to them. What homes and property you own is a matter of public record. Credit bureaus like Equifax, Trans Union and Experian keep track of your credit cards and whether you've been late on payments or have tried to get more credit. The government can probably buy access to this information. Your bank knows all of your debit card and check transactions and your credit card company has a record of all of your credit card transactions. Only when you pay in cash is your transaction possibly not recorded as being made by you. The government can get access to your financial information in criminal trials and in the future this may be broadened in the continuing war on your freedoms and privacy which uses terrorism as a pretext. Perhaps financial institutions will cooperate with government even if the goverment does not have search warrants just like telecommunication firms like AT&T did. Your financial transactions can be analyzed to understand your saving, investing and spending patterns. Firms like Nexus can provide information on Americans which the government has been known to access. The government is prohibited by law from creating such information itself but no law prevents it from accessing commercial databases with information on Amercian citizens.

There is a move underway to put all of your medical records on-line. The stated reason is that this will make it easier if you change doctors or if you are in need of emergency care but unable to provide critical medical information to your doctors. It may also be said that this will help reduce medical costs which are already sky high. This may all be true, but the stated reason is not always the real reason as Dr. Richard Day warned. This will just be one more example of the erosion of your privacy. Soon doctors or hospitals may take some saliva and be required to have your genetic DNA code analyzed and put in a database. As biometric applications increase soon fingerprints or retinal scans will be used instead of having a driver's liscense or a PIN. Do not ask when Big Brother will come since it's already here.
WW RAUPP
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10/8/2009 5:04 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Thoroughly retarded prophecy.

Next.
Watchman of Yahweh
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10/9/2009 1:06 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

The Fall of the Unholy American Empire - Part 3


As previously discussed, a loss of rights and privacy is a continuing pattern in this falling empire. Financial difficulties will also be another continuing pattern as America gets deeper into debt trying to maintain it's global military empire and as it spends to try to avert a deflationary spiral.

Another way we are losing our privacy (which I forgot to mention in the previous article) is through the implementation of RFID chips in most all consumer products. Walmart is pushing a campaign to have manufacturers and producers put a very small RFID chip in everything from clothes, to appliances to electronics. When a signal is sent out, the RFID chip in the product will respond with an identification that can be looked up in a database to find out where the product was made, where it was shipped, warehoused and sold. And if the product was purchased with a debit/credit card, then even this information can be stored. So if a cop sees you on the street and wants to know who you are, in the future, they may be able to send out a signal and have the RFID chips in your clothes tell them about where they were purchased and by whom. Of course, I don't like this at all. But retailers and distributors will argue that having RFID chips in products makes it so much easier for them to take inventory since all they have to do is send out signals to the RFID chips in the products and the RFID chips respond back with their IDs making for very convenient inventory analysis. Of course, when a National ID smart card comes around, eventually the government will push to have us chipped with the National ID chip, so they can take inventory of us, their 'product'.

Also, the cameras being deployed on airports and throughout the city can have facial recognition technology like the ones in the Bourne Ultimatum movie. This means the government will know who is in the area under surveilane by the cameras. Of course, the reason given for having this information is to catch possible terrorists. There's always a reason for taking away your rights and privacy, just look at how Hitler became Fuhrer after creating the false flag Reichstag fire. And here in America we have our own Reichstag fire called 9/11.

Financial difficulties will also accompany the fall of the American Empire. At the base of the problem is a dysfunctional money system. The U.S. dollar along with most other currencies are fiat currencies, that is, they do not have gold, silver or anything backing them up. Nixon took the U.S. dollar, off the gold standard in the early 1970's and gold then went from about $35/oz to about $800/oz in the early 80's and inflation reared it's ugly head in the 70's. If you control the money supply as the Federal Reserve does, then you control the economy. The Federal Reserve can reduce short-term rates to encourage banks to lend as it did when it kept short term rates at 1%. This reflated the equity markets and created a new housing bubble. Then it can raise short-term rates to discourage bank lending and slow down the economy. With higher short-term rates, consumers and corporations will borrow less, but still have higher borrowing costs on existing short-term debt thus slowing economic growth and reducing corporate profits. The equity market, being a discounting mechanism, will anticipate the downturn and go lower. Higher short-term interest rates also usually lead to higher mortgage rates making it harder to buy or sell a home and a slowing economy leads to more foreclosures. Thus, the Federal Reserve can play the economy like a yo-yo.

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws."
Quote from Mayer Amschel Rothschild

So we have a fiat money system where money supply can be grown to create growth and bubbles and then can be withdrawn to create recessions and depressions. What many people do not realize is that the previous two times the U.S. had a central bank, they ended up not working out because the bankers would create boom and busts that destroyed the wealth of the people. The Federal Reserve, our latest central bank, may at one point meet it's own demise for the same reason. What most people don't know is that the Federal Reserve is not a federal government branch but a private corporation owned possibly by major U.S. and European banks. Yes, the federal government appoints the Fed chairmain but the Federal Reserve itself is a private corporation.

The Federal Reserve can also influence whether wars are waged or not. Wars are very expensive and the federal government usually needs to acquire money for the war. If the federal government goes out and tries to get this money in the private sector by selling Treasury bonds (T-bonds) then it may raise long-term interest rates and hurt the economy. So usually, the federal government wants the Fed to create money out of thin air and use it to buy T-bonds to help finance the war. Of course, creating money out of thin air increases the money supply and is inflationary. If the Fed tells the federal government it will not create the money and buy T-bonds to finance the war then the federal government may be dissuaded from going to war.

As Dr. Richard Day, a NWO insider said "We can add as many zeroes as we want." indicating that the Fed can create money, increase inflation and devalue the dollar thereby robbing citizens of their savings. The control of the money supply as Mayer Amschel Rothschild indicated is powerful. Whether wars are launched or are successful can be a matter of financing the government debt. At the crux of the problem is that the U.S. dollar is fiat currency and the fractional reserve banking system. If the U.S. dollar was not fiat, but was backed by gold, silver or other commodoties, then in order to increase the money supply the Fed would have to buy gold, silver, etc. This is not as easy to do as electronically adding money which is backed by nothing to a bank account.

Also, fractional reserve banking is also responsible for our faulty money system. Fractional reserve banking allows a bank to loan up to ten or twelve times it's reserves. So if you put $1 into a bank checking account, the bank can loan up to $10 dollars based on your dollar deposit. Please understand that the bank simply creates the extra $9 out of thin air. Now who wouldn't want to be able to create money out of thin air and loan it at 6% interest? The fractional reserve banking system can probably be traced back to the Knight Templars, the pre-cursors of the Freemasons. During the Crusades, people would deposit their gold with the Knight Templars and get a note of deposit (think of it as money) so they could travel safely without their gold being stolen. The Knight Templars had gold depositories (think of it as your local bank) all over Europe and Jerusalem. Now as people trusted the Knight Templars, the notes of deposit acted as money. The Knights Templar probably soon learned they could issue loans at interest to people without fulling backing up the loan with gold, thus creating the first fractional reserve banking system.

So without fiat currency and the fractional reserve banking system it would be very hard to increase money supply so easily, causing inflation. A dollar in 1970 has the same purchsing power as $5.29 in 2007. In other words, what cost 18 cents in 1970 cost one dollar in 2007. Think about it: a house in 1970 might have cost $25k but now costs $250K. It's the same house, then and now, so it's the dollar that's gone down in value, not the house that has gone up in value. This is how the government robs from the people with savings in dollars.
Inflation calculator: [link to www.westegg.com]

Also, in American history, there have been times when very wealthy people have deposited large sums of money in banks. This leads to credit creation and increasing the money supply. The equity markets usually rise and some people get carried in the mania and take loans to invest in stocks. These wealthy people then go short the stock market to profit when it falls. They then withdraw their money from the banks. The banks are then forced to call back loans immediately since their deposits/reserves can not justify the amount of outstanding loans. This causes businesses that have loans to go bankrupt if they cannot find alternate financing. Those who bought stock on margin have to sell it immediately creating a tidal wave of selling. The country then goes into a deep depression. The wealthy manipulators then cover their shorts having made money on the falling stock market and then use their cash to buy up distressed land and businesses. This is the boom and bust cycle that is used to make money from the public and it's played out over and over through the decades.

By the way, if you ever want to know whether the Fed is trying to slow down the economy and engineer a recession, just look for an inverted yield curve. An inverted yield curve occurs when short term interest rates on government securities such as the 3 month T-bill or 2 year note are HIGHER than the interest rate on longer term government obligations such as the 10 year or 30 year note. Since banks borrow on the short term (from customer's checking/savings/CD accounts) and lend on long term (mortgages, corporate loans), they make more profit when short term rates are lower than long term rates. When short term interest rates are higher than long term interest rates, banks have little incentive to make loans, which usually slows down the economy. So when you see an inverted yield curve know that the economy will slow down, corporate profits will likely go down in the future and the stock market is prone to selling off. Consider that we had an inverted yield curve in late 2000 before the economy and stock market dive. Also, we had an inverted or flat yield curve from late 2005 to about mid 2007 leading to economic slow down and vicious market sell-off. I was surprised how long it took for the inverted yield curve to take effect this last time around but that the yield was inverted for so long is a good clue that the economic slowdown will also last a good while.

19 " You shall not charge interest to your brother -- interest on money or food or anything that is lent out at interest.
20 "To a foreigner you may charge interest, but to your brother you shall not charge interest, that the LORD your God may bless you in all to which you set your hand in the land which you are entering to possess. (Deuteronomy 23:19,20)
[link to www.tentmaker.org]

Have you ever wondered what the world would be like if we kept Torah (i.e. teaching/instruction) of YHVH? According to Torah, we are not to lend money for interest to our brothers in Yahshuah ha'Mashiach. Fractional reserve banks would have no interest (pun intended) in loaning out more than the deposits if they could not charge interest. Actually, banks would probably not make any loans at all if they could not charge interest. People would learn to live within their means. People would not be paying 20% on credit cards and the poor who took out sub-prime mortgages would get relief. It would be a very different system. Muslim sharia laws actually forbid them from charging or receiving interest. They keep Torah in respect to usury at least. According to Dr. Richard Day, the controllers (i.e. Illuminati) wanted to get everyone heavily in debt. This could explain why everyone got so many credit card offers regardless of ability to repay. It looks like they succeeded. Then he said they would lower down the hammer. Well, with new bankruptcy laws that make it difficult to clear out debts it looks like the hammer is coming down on those who took on too much debt. The Scriptures warn that the debtor is a slave to the creditor. It's wise to learn to live modestly and within our means, save and owe no one nothing but love. But it seems generations forget. About every 70 years or so we go through a depression (i.e. Kondratieff wave). The generation that goes through a depression learns to be thrifty and save. But this generation gives way to another that enjoys plenty and takes on debt thinking the prosperity party will never end, only to learn that history repeats itself.

This cycle plays out even in a shorter time frame. We tend to have a financial paper bull market for about 16-18 years where stocks and bonds tend to do well. This gives way to a commodity bull market where oil, gold, metals and food tend to do well for about 16-18 years. Consider that about from 1970 to 1982 was a commodity bull market which gave way to a financial paper bull market from 1982 to 2000. And from 2000 to 2008 we've been in a commodity bull market though we've just experienced a very strong correction. During the financial paper bull market interest rates are high and start coming down. This naturally helps the bond market. Stocks do well also as companies and consumers can refinance debt at lower interest rates. Also new corporate projects are more viable at lower interest rates. This spurs the economy. As rates go lower, this encourages borrowing to excessive levels and this sets the stage for the commodity bull market. With consumers and corporations heavily in debt, the government start to increase money supply to lower the value of the dollar so debts can be repaid back in cheaper dollars. Higher money supply causes inflation (assuming a relatively constant velocity of money). When inflation rate is higher than the interest you get then it is said that the real interest rate is negative. In other words, the interest on money does not make up for the loss of purchasing power (inflation). During these times, commodity prices increase creating a commodity bull market.

There is even a smaller cycle called the 4 year business cycle or the presidential election cycle that says the two years leading up to a presidential election are economically better than the first two after presidential election. Apparently, the economy is juiced up the two years before the election to help keep the incumbent party in power. Then after the election the juice is removed to keep the economy from overheating. Oh well, this doesn't always work out since this year has turned out to be rather lousy for the economy. But these cycles are all based on going from greed to fear or debt to saving and they play out on different time frames.

People forget that before the dollar we had the Continental which became worthless giving rise to the idiom "worthless as a Continental". The problem with fiat currencies is that politicians (or the Fed) often give in to political expediency and create money out of thin air to address every problem. The Weimar Republic (former Germany) experienced hyper-inflation and now the European Central Bank (dominated by the former Bundesbank philosophy) is very careful about printing too much money. Prophet Tom Deckard said he had a vision where a newscaster said on TV that we might as well go out and burn our dollars since they are worthless. If this prophecy proves to be correct then the dollar will go the way of the Continental. I don't know when this will happen but it may be prudent to diversify about 10 to 15 percent of your asssets away from the dollar by dollar cost averaging into gold, silver, other commodities or stronger currencies. Even Warren Buffet started to diversify away from the dollar several years ago.

Ironically enough though, this latest market sell-off took down the U.S. stock market, emerging country stock markets, emerging country currencies and commodities as everyone took haven in the dollar. It seems only the dollar and the Japaneese yen held up when the deleveraging took place. But after the fear subsides I think the dollar may resume it's downward pattern. But for now deflation is the concern as so much wealth has evaporated. But as the Fed starts loaning out money to everyone who needs it and the national debt increases upwards of ten trillion dollars, this will at one point spur on inflation sometime in the future.

I find it interesting that the people who are trying to get us out of this mess are the same ones who helped create this mess in the first place. Hank Paulson, who heads the Treasury Department, lobbied Congress when he was CEO of Golman Sachs to allow investment banks such as Merril Lynch, Lehman Brothers, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs to increase their leverage from ten times to twenty times. Well, thanks to the higher leverage and selling credit default swaps on mortgages, now only Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs remain indepedent with Lehman Brothers having filed for bankruptcy. Congressman Barney Frank pushed to have Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loan to minorities who normally would not have qualified for mortgages. So Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac which are quasi-government corporations since it was implicit that the government would back them up, find themselves with alot of non-performing mortgages and now the government has come in to bail them out at tax-payers expense of course.

So what happened? Well, the investment banks got into trouble because they increased leverage to twenty times and sold credit default swaps (i.e. insurance on the mortgages). But the Bubble Maestro Alan Greenspan is largely responsible for the stock market bubble and the real estate bubble. Greenspan kept the interest rates low at 1% resulting in lower mortgage rates. Everyone loved the party while it lasted. Homeowners saw their home values go up, new home buyers were enticed with property values rising, realtors and loan officers were making great commissions. In the olden days, banks would hold the mortgages so they were very prudent with lending, but more recently they bundled the mortgages into a package called a collaterized debt obligation (CDO). But to entice institutions to buy the CDOs they had to offer insurance in the form of credit default swaps to ensure the mortgages would pay off. So in the end these banks that sold credit default swaps were still vulnerable if the mortgages went into foreclosure.

Greenspan should have taken steps to encourage banks to only lend to credit-worthy buyers, verify buyers income and discourage adjustable rate mortgages with teaser rates but he did none of this. Greenspan could have pushed to have institutions that sell credit default swaps be regulated like insurance companies. Insurance companies are regulated to ensure that they have enough reserves to pay off claims. If the firms selling credit default swaps were regulated to ensure they had reserves to pay off the credit default swaps then they may not have been able to sell as many and the bubble may not have formed. Is Greenspan really that dumb? Even I knew that this housing bubble would end badly. Let's say the average house costs $200K. Banks usually require a 20% down-payment or $40K on the $200K house. So the property can go down in value by 20% and the bank can still recover it's loan. But now lets say the house appreciates to $400K because mortgage rates are low. At $400K, the bank asks for 20% or 80K down-payment but people's income has not doubled and rental apartments always compete with buying homes. So what happens if mortgage rates increase in the future to more normal levels and house prices stop rising? The house value may go back to $200K so the value of the house has gone down by $200K and the bank only has $80K to cover the loss. The bank is $120K in the hole. The housing market is so huge that it's practicaly impossible for the federal government to save every bank when this happens. So if I saw the potential problem then why didn't the banks or the federal reserve? Perhaps you can say greed took over at the banks and Greenspan trusted financial institutions would do the right thing. But Richard Day said that at one point houses would be very expensive and many would be empty. He said you would think that home prices would come down, but market forces would not be allowed to operate. Well, house prices are expensive and many will soon be empty because of foreclosures. All we need now is for the government to step in and do something to keep house prices artificially high. Richard Day also said that with house prices so high, many strangers would be put in apartments to foster distrust. Then when few own homes, they would take those people homes (presumably with high property taxes) and most people wouldn't care since they didn't own a home. We'll see if this scenario play out or not. Nonetheless, I'm inclined to think this was planned out a long time ago just as Richard Day said.

I know that it may be hard to believe bank CEO's would bring down their own company but for Satan's Illuminati it's not about the money but about the battle for men's souls. John Todd, a member of the Grand Druid Council of 13which took orders from the Rothschilds, said that Ayn Rand who was a mistress of a Rothschild was told to write about the Illuminati plans in the book "Atlas Shrugged". In the book, many CEOs of companies purposefully bring down their companies to create economic havoc so that out of the chaos the New World Order can emerge. Richard Day in 1969 said that the Japaneese would enter the American car market. Sure enough in the 70's, American car companies put out low quality gas-guzzler while the Japaneese came in with high quality fuel efficient cars. Maybe the quality problem with American cars back then wasn't mismanagement after all! Richard Day also said that cars would start to look alike. Chrysler marketed many cars that looked alike in the K-car series until people complained. Richard Day also said that manufacturing would go overseas but the U.S. would retain leadership in telecommunications and technology. Well, isn't that what has happened? So much manufacturing has left the U.S. for lower wage countries with lower environmental standards. I don't think he was right just by chance. Consider that whether Bush or Clinton was president, both pushed for NAFTA that resulted in some manufacturing leaving to Mexico.

And finally, let's not forget the 160 TRILLION over the counter (OTC) derivative bets that have been placed. 160 TRILLION is many times the world's GDP and if this blows up the federal reserve will not be able to bail out the problem institutions without destroying the dollar. Remember that the U.S. government owes 10 trillion and the fed has only ponied up about 2 trillion for the current crisis. So we can see if the OTC derivative market blows up it will be major. Normally, if you or I sell a stock option like a put or call on a stock, the brokerage firm requires us to put a a certain amount of money up (i.e. the margin) to ensure we will be able to pay off the bet if it goes against us. If we buy a stock option, the brokerage and finally the Options Clearing Corp. (OCC) guarantees we will be paid on the bet. In the OTC derivatives market there is no one checking to make sure that margin is being met and there is no clearing firm like the OCC so there's counter-party risk. So let's say Lehman Brothers sells alot of mortgage credit default swap derivatives but does not have much set aside to pay these insurance policies off. Well, Lehman Brothers may go bankrupt if they lose big time on those credit default swaps. Now the other institutions that placed those bets with Lehman Brothers may not get paid on their mortgage insurance policies but still may be holding toxic mortgages that they thought they had insured. Now these institutions face credit down-grades and financial losses. Next the institutions that placed bet with these firms will be concerned whether their OTC derivatives with these firms will be paid off. This sets up a domino effect that can reverberate through the whole financial system which can bring down this house of cards. I believe the G20 will be meeting soon and one of the things they may address is creating a clearing firm for the OTC derivatives market to reign it in before it explodes.

This nation was once great but I think it's seen it's hey day. For the first time, children may not improve upon the living standard of their parents. This nation was once one of the largest creditors but now it is the largest debtor nation. You may wish to read Deuteronomy 28 to see the blessings that YHVH grants with obedience and the curses that come with disobedience. As a nation, we have forsaken YHVH, and YHVH has forsaken this nation.
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This nation had the illusion of being great
now that we can see, that is great my friend
Watchman of Yahweh
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10/9/2009 1:28 AM
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Ann Peterson: Three Asteroid/Comet Vision

Stephen Bening has had visions/prophecies about the east coast and Gulf of Mexico getting hit with asteroids and being inundated with tsunamis. He has also collected prophecies about this. Ann Peterson's vision indicates that after the 3 asteroids impact, the great Midwest earthquake will occur. I'm still not sure about whether the great CA earthquake or the great midwest earthquake occurs first, but if Gail Smith's vision of two earthquakes followed by WW3 correspond to the great CA and midwest earthquake, then we know these two earthquakes will happen within 15 days of each other. I'm still piecing the pieces of the puzzle together ...

Quoted from:
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Dear Stephen,
Here is the account of the vision dealing with the
comets and the destruction to befall America that I
was given.

In April 2001 I was moved to ask God what was
coming at us. The question was as generic as
that...but not the answer. I was then shown North
America on a globe. I saw three balls of fire
streaking across the globe. One hits in the Gulf of
Mexico...another hits near the east coast of
Florida...and the third is further out in the
Atlantic. I then see America get smaller. Florida
is washed over as well as much of the east coast and
the coastal areas of the Gulf.
I asked if people
would be warned of this event in any way. I was told
that this was the warning. I asked again about the
others that did not hear or see initial warnings. I
heard that there would be a very small window of
opportunity for people to get out of harms way...but
most would still not listen. Then the only
"close-up" view I got was of I-95...it was a death
trap...and those were the words I heard too. Then I
was shown a short period of relative stillness then I
saw the middle of America rise up, then separate into
two land masses with a great body of water between the
two halves.
When I inquired about what I was to
do...I live In Florida...I was shown a specific area
in North Carolina that I had to be at. I was also
told I would be there before this happened. I am
currently planning my move for asap. If finances had
allowed I would be there now...but things being as
they are I will be there in the next two months. I
cannot even begin to list all the ways God has
confirmed this for me.

Ann Peterson is currently a resident of Orlando, Florida.
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Watchman of Yahweh
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10/9/2009 2:21 AM
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Three Asteroids Prophecy Summary from Stephen Bening

Based on this summary the order of three asteroids, midwest and California earthquake, and Russian nuking and Russian/Chineese invasion become crystallized and clear.

First comes the three asteroid impact, one in the Gulf of Mexico, one off the eastern coast of Florida and one in the Altantic near North Carolina, which causes tsunamis on the eastern seaboard, and Gulf of Mexico coastlands and which inundates Florida.

Second event is the great Midwestern earthquake where the Great Lakes flood into the midwest taking out Chicago and America is divided along the Mississippi River area. America is divided physically for trying to divide the land of Israel (which Yahweh gave as an everlasting possession to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob/Israel) with a Palestinian state.

Third event is the great California earthquake where the land west of the San Andreas fault goes into the ocean with resulting world-wide tsunamis hitting world coastal cities/areas.

These two earthquakes(i.e. CA and midwest) happen within 15 days of each other assuming these are the first two earthquakes in Gail Smith's vision.

Fourth event occurs 37 days after the great Midwest earthquake when Russian/Chineese subs nuke California, Las Vegas, New York and Florida taking out major coastal cities.

Then within 2 months of nuking, China and Japan invade from West and Russia from the east with support from Cuba, Mexico and Nicaragua.

The US loses about 250 million people or about 70% of the population, is occupied for 7 years, but through national repentance, a godly leader, a new invention and angelic help wins back it's freedom.

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In all of my more than ten years since the Lord spoke to me and sent me as a prophet to the nations, after the order of Jeremiah, I have not seen such a situation develop as has taken shape during the last two weeks, concerning the prophesied “Three Asteroid/Comet” event.

I feel the need to pull all of the information together, because it seems that each prophetic witness received some pieces of the puzzle that are unique, and some are confirming of what others received. Some are different in ways that puzzle me.

This is what the prophets are saying:

1) This event will be the first event: “This will be the beginning of the pain that I will allow upon the earth."-Virginia Boldea

2) When God begins to allow trouble to the United States, it will sweep the nation from East to West.-Mark Meyers

3) This 3 Asteroid/Comet event will occur before the earthquake that is to occur in the Midwest that will create a great lake that will divide the USA, as has been previously prophesied by Timothy Snodgrass and Stephen L. Bening-Ann Peterson

4) This 3 asteroid/comet event will be heralded by a final warning that will commence with simultaneous, identical dreams of warning that will be received by many, beginning at 2 A.M.(7 A.M. GMT)-Bob Neumann, Stephen L. Bening, Megan M. Bening

5) North Carolina will be inundated as far West as Morganton, at a distance of 200 miles inland, and at an elevation of 1160 feet.-Bob Neumann. The ocean will intrude as far as Gwinnett County, Georgia (Just Southeast of Atlanta) at an elevation of 1080 feet, and at a distance of 225 miles inland.-Ruby Golden

6) Florida homes will be covered by waves that will be higher than the rooftops.-Billie London

7) Key West, FL will be destroyed by Tsunami.-Dan Bohler

8) There will be three asteroid/comet impacts-Bob Neumann, John Lallier, Megan M. Bening, Ann Peterson, Virginia Boldea (she says they hit the ground), Gloria Lopez, Joanna Bening. (Stephen Bening comment on Boldea-she said, "when they hit the ground, there was total devastation". She never said she saw them hit the ground, as in hard Earth. She may have been using the word "ground" in a general sense, to refer to the horizon.)

9) Augusta, GA will suffer terrible flooding-Dan Bohler

10) New Orleans, LA will suffer terrible flooding-Dan Bohler

11) Florida will be entirely covered with water as far North as approximately Orlando-John Lallier, Ann Peterson. Nita Johnson saw a map in a vision where Florida and the East Coast of the USA had disappeared several hundred miles inland, and the Coastal area of Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi had disappeared inland by about 50 miles. Jim McCants saw, in a vision, that all of Florida had disappeared.

12) The general populace will be warned on Television at 6 P.M. The first warning will be by CNN. The next warning will come from the Pentagon. The area of evacuation will be said to be from Key West, FL to Plymouth Rock, MA-Bob Neumann

13) The impact of the three asteroids will occur at 10 P.M.-Bob Neumann

14) Two asteroid/comets will hit in the Atlantic, one will hit in the Gulf Of Mexico. Of the two Atlantic impacts, one will hit further out, off North Carolina, the other will hit off the East Coast of Florida.-Bob Neumann, Ann Peterson, Gloria Lopez

15) Christians will escape this event, having heeded warnings. The Lord will take care of His servants.-Bob Neumann, John Lallier, Ann Peterson, Stephen L. Bening

16) The last revival to sweep the United States will come out of Florida-Marlin Simon (1991)

17) This asteroid impact and flood will fling revival out of South Florida, and we will preach as a team throughout the Midwest states of the United States, until we are warned to flee from the great New Madrid earthquake that is to come. Florida is the gate of the United States, and events that control her destiny will commence here. We have been warned so that we can preach, and be a witness to those who will suffer next in the Midwest. After that, we will proceed to the West Coast and warn those in California that they are next, and that they must repent and turn to God.-Stephen L. Bening

18) I-95 will be a deathtrap. Do not flee using that route.-Ann Peterson

19) This event will trigger martial law, with military crackdowns in the USA-John Lallier

20) The electric power grid will fail in the entire lower 48 states of the USA for an indeterminate time-Bob Neumann

21) This event appears to be connected with the arrival of a large brown asteroid into the solar system.-John Lallier

22) Several prophets are saying this event is set, and is certain to occur and will not be cancelled for mercy sake alone-Billie London, John Lallier

23) There will only be two warnings: the prophetic warnings and the simultaneous, identical dreams that are given by the Lord 20 hours prior to impact.-Bob Neumann, Ann Peterson

24) Those who wait to see the asteroids with their physical eyes will perish if they live in the zones of destruction. The prophecies and the dreams must be heeded in order to escape.-Bob Neumann, John Lallier, Ann Peterson, Stephen L. Bening

25) Jim McCants, after a fast of forty days on water, saw a reduced size map of the USA. Then, he saw, hovering in the air, the number "17". He did not understand this until he read an article by me, Stephen L. Bening, in which I explained that the flood of Noah occurred on Marheshvan 17 (Hebrew Calendar). I believe the Lord has connected this future asteroid impact with Marheshvan 17, and has called that future date ZERO HOUR.

There is a final, chilling postscript to this. Bob Neumann received the notion in his dream that no one on the internet confirmed the warnings that he was sending out. He had received the dream warnings, and was blowing the trumpet on the internet, but no one believed him. They thought he was crazy. As I consider this, in light of all the warnings I have now given over the internet concerning the dreams, the visions and the prophecies concerning this coming event, I can only say this: The internet won’t save you. No telephone call of warning will save you. Knowing Stephen L. Bening or Bob Neumann won’t save you.

Only an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ will save you from this event that is to come, so that you may live another day to be a witness and declare the greatness of our God to a lost and dying world. You must know Jesus. You must hear His voice. Jesus is the only one who died for you, and who can save you from this and every other danger and peril you may face. Stop whatever you are doing, and start living for Him today.

Stephen L. Bening
A servant and prophet of our Lord Jesus Christ
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10/9/2009 2:49 AM
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Thomas Gibson's Prophetic Outline

I highly recommend everyone read all of Thomas Gibson's prophecies. This is a true prophet of Yahweh.
Book 1
[link to www.telusplanet.net]
Book 2
[link to www.telusplanet.net]

quoted from:
[link to www.telusplanet.net]

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Economic Crash

Because America has not repented of their sin, God will destroy their economy with a crash similiar to the 1930's. I have received many prophecies about this.

January 21, 1998 [1998 01 21.1]
For thus says the Lord, you shall see, in the next few months, a big crash on the stock market, and then you shall see it again, and then more of the same. For crash after crash shall soon occur and it shall come down to the level I have declared.
For the time of the spending of big money over the earth has come to an end. I have been fed up with the total consumption of this earth with power and money even to the extent that My people are put to shame in the same sin!


July 5, 1998 [1998 07 05.1]
This is the circumstances to which this earth is heading. It will lose control of its societies as it heads in to the greatest economic collapse that will befall mankind.
This collapse shall come fairly quickly, and as it comes people will stop obeying the law, because it is no longer convenient for them. As they become economically deprived they shall turn to illegal activities in greater and greater numbers, till authorities cannot control it in any way.


August 11, 2002 [2002 08 11.1]
As I was in prayer this afternoon the Lord showed me the following: I could see a chart with one line on it. It went up and down in a jerky fashion. Suddenly it dropped off so low that it was almost off the bottom. Then it continued its jerky up and down motion, but it was now doing so very near the bottom of the chart.
Then the Lord said: this is the stock market. You will soon see the sudden drop off to the bottom. Many will not believe that it cannot rise again--but each attempt to ressurrect their money god will result in failure.
This crash is now occurring. It is time for the people to bow down and repent of their love of money, their love of self above God, and their love of religion above truth. Those who are truly living a life for God in all that the Bible states will have their needs met; they will be guided through this by the Holy Spirit. Those who are religious and serving self and their lusts will be judged along with the world.


Russian Invasion

As America refuses to repent God is going to bring about an invading force from Russia (as well as China), to bring it to its knees in repentance. It is God's will that it repent. He will do whatever is necessary to bring that about. America will be drawn into conflict (war) after conflict. There will also be judgments designed to weaken the nation in preparation for the invasion. This includes terrorism and the economic crash, but it certainly is not limited to these two areas. Below are two prophecies about this:

November 1, 1994 [1994 11 01.1]
...edited...
Therefore, because of the evil that is in their hearts, I will bring various destructions upon them, but I will not judge them as I will and have other nations, because of the ones who do truly serve Me in their midst. I will bring only limited destruction upon them for a short time, BUT then, if they do not repent of their evil deeds, they will be severely destroyed almost to the last of the will to fight against their enemy.
This force that will come against them is the power of the demon of Russia. This force will come upon them without any warning. It will be as though they had peace in their hands, an absolute peace, that would rule the world, BUT THEN the destruction of world war three will intervene; and as they have said, "peace, peace," and as I have said, "when they say, 'peace, peace,' there will be utter destruction!!"
...edited...


April 24, 1999 [1999 04 24.2]
Kosovo, Kosovo, Kosovo. For they could have repented. They could have turned unto the ways of the Lord, but they did not!
Wow unto America. Woe unto America. Woe unto America. They time of judgment is coming. You do not see it. You do not understand.
But woe unto America, for your judgment day is coming. You believe you have set yourself right, to do the things you believe can be done in safety and without harm to your army.
But I say, woe unto America, for little by little, war by war, piece by piece, YOU SHALL BE DRAWN INTO conflict after conflict, till you can no longer protect yourself.
America the Great shall fall, and fall hard. It has raised itself up and worshipped its own technology. It has raised itself up and worshipped its own design. It has raised itself up and worshipped its own might. And all of these things shall fall by the Hand of the Mighty God.
If America repents these judgments can be averted. But there has to be true repentance from the heart, not a cry for protection while they continue to sin.


The Return of the Church

So where is the church in all of this? Why do they not preach this truth? Judgment is always happening (as long as sin is in this world) even though the church does not preach it or believe it. God has not changed! [Hebrews 13:8] The fact is that the church (almost any church you choose!) has chosen to carefully interpret the Bible to mean what they wish it to mean. But God did not give the Bible to men so it could be interpreted. He gave it to men because it is the complete truth of why we are here and what we are responsible to believe and do! But it took man very little time to ignore, twist and interpret, as well as invent his own theology.

True christianity is the truth based on the Bible, not a man-made religion based on various interpretations of the Bible to fit into man's thinking. Do not trust what a church says, or what this site says, unless you can find it in God's Word, the Bible. The church today is a far cry from the one we find in the New Testament of the Bible. God is calling His church to repentance. They must turn back to the true ways of God found in the Scriptures. In the Bible we find this:

10. Now I exhort you, brethern, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all agree, and there be no divisions among you, but you be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment.
11. For I have been informed concerning you, my brethern, by Chloe's people, that there are quarrels among you. I Corinthians 1:10-11 NASB


Early in 2004 God gave me this prophecy concerning the need of the church to repent and turn back completely to God:

February 8, 2004 [2004 02 8.1]
My true church is not a denomination, but rather it is My people gathering into a local congregation with a name that represents the local area. Beyond this is sin. For if one creates a division with Christ, one creates a division of My people which is wickedness.


At the beginning of the New Testament we have one church in complete union with Jesus. Now for churches to sit down and make a pact between themselves to agree to certain principles would be sin upon sin. The church must go back to the Scriptures and agree completely with everything that is there. There must be union with Jesus; then there will be agreement with each other. Anything else will just create more of the mess that we presently have.

This union with Jesus must come from the heart--that is, it must not be a series of rules obeyed out of a feeling of "God says so, therefore I must." There must come from the heart a complete desire to be broken by God so that you have no will of your own left, but only a will to serve the Creator of all.

18. Everyone who falls of that stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust." Luke 20:18 NASB

The stone is Jesus. If you will fall on it and allow Him to break your will, you will lose all desire for the things of this earth. Your will must become for the Lord Jesus' and His work. If you rebel against Him, He will fall on you with judgment and scatter you like dust.

24. No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. Matthew 6:24 NASB (mammon means the world and its riches)

The decision is between this world and The Lord Jesus Christ. What will your decision be?? Explanation of salvation.
[link to www.telusplanet.net]
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Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 778632
10/10/2009 5:59 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Prophecies for Today by Amos Scaggs

A warning about dollar collapse and stock market collapse?

Quoted from:
[link to amosprophecy.com]

Act Before It’s Too Late

I was away from home on a trip/vacation and three guys came into my room through an open door. The door was open because I was packing to leave. They spotted the baggage and money I had lying around. It was my life’s savings. I had no protection from the intruders.

Two of the younger ones went into another room to pilfer. That left the older fellow and me in the room. I knew my only chance was to rush him. It was a do or die situation and what did I have to loose. If I didn’t rush him I loose. If I didn’t subdue him in the rush I loose; but I knew if I would act now I could win. My very existence was at stake.

In general people of America have been on vacation not attending to business, as they should.

They have let the big organizations steal their savings and bully them around.

If they make a rush to secure their money and belongings they will beat the intruders at the beginning before they can act, otherwise you loose.


October 6, 2009
Watchman of Yahweh
User ID: 778632
10/10/2009 6:27 AM
Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

LARRY TAYLOR'S SEARCH FOR SECRET PROPHECIES FROM ARMENIA

Quoted from:
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Posted By: Shenandoah
Date: Tuesday, 27 July 2004, 11:35 p.m.

LARRY TAYLOR'S SEARCH FOR THE SECRET PROPHECIES FROM ARMENIA!!

I am going to let Larry Taylor tell you his story of a very strange search for the hidden prophecies from Armenia, because his postings on it say it far better than I can. and then follow his posts in his posts in the Hyssop Chronicles Newsletter to the actual prophecy itself. I have posted the actual handwritten prophecy pages on another page because of downloading time. I feel these prophecies are authentic, and that indeed God did in fact release these to a believer in Canada. They tell a story of where America is headed which agrees with Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel and Revelation Here are Larry's posts through to the discovery itself.

4. SECRET LETTER PROPHECY FROM ARMENIA - 1852 Evidenced by Demos Shakarian as told to John and Elizabeth Sherrill in the book: The Happiest People On Earth 1975 [book out of print] --- Took me a while but I did finally get a rare copy after being asked by readers of newsletter to look into this---Larry Taylor [Demos Shakarian 1913-1993]/ Demos was named after his grandfather, a remarkable man who fled from Armenia in 1905 to settle in Los Angeles, California in America. The family left their homeland in response to a prophecy in 1852 that a time of unspeakable tragedy would come to Armenia and that hundreds of thousands of people would be killed. When the same person who had given the prophecy announced the time for the tragedy was near, it was the sign for many people, including grandfather Demos to move. The prophet was a true prophet.

In 1914 the Turkish people drove the Armenian population out into the Mesopotamian desert. Over a million men, women and children died. They massacred another half a million people in their villages, often by locking them in barns and burning them to death. Everyone still in the home village of grandfather Demos died! The world did not respond to what was happening and allowed it to continue.

Later on they reaped a reward for their shameful inaction. When Hitler started his campaign to exterminate Jewish people, he believed that 'no one cared about the Armenians, they will not care about the Jews'. Consequently a large Armenian group settled in Los Angeles. The boy prophet who God had used to warn the Armenians to flee the coming onslaught was really named Efim Gerasemovitch Klubniken, of Russian origin and from earliest childhood had shown a gift for prayer, frequently going on long fasts, praying around the clock. The prophet's words and map directed the Armenians to Los Angeles, CA, America. However, later Efim also wrote out a second prophecy, but all anybody knew about that one was that it dealt with the still more distant future --- when the people would once again have to flee. Efim asked his parents to seal this prophecy in an envelope, and repeated the instructions he had received concerning it. He had been told in his vision that only a future prophet --- chosen by the Lord for this task --- could open the envelope and read the prophecy to the church. Anyone opening the envelope before this time would die.

Excerpt at the end of the book - Demos Shakarian speaking:

"I thought of the second message the boy prophet received so long ago, still sealed and unopened. Does it foretell a great persecution coming to Christians in America, just before the Lord returns? Personally, I think so. I think the Spirit is being given us in preparation for this time: to bind us into a Body, to assign to each one of us the task he alone can do for the welfare of that Body. I often wonder who will be told to open that message and read it to the church? And Demos Shakarian passed in 1993!"

[Larry Taylor --- I recently sent out an email to the Internet List of 'From_The_Edge' requesting any information in regards to this secret letter existence. I will share one of the email replies:

"Hi! Larry -- This is Ken and Annie Schisler in Uruguay, South America. We also would appreciate if once you obtain info regarding the "secret letter" you could share it with us. We met Demos and Rose back in the late 80's at their home in Downey. We spoke of many things, including the secret letter, but the contents was not disclosed as it was still "sealed" at that time. It would be important to compare notes with things Annie has seen in her visions regarding the future of the USA. We believe many things are very imminent. Blessings! Ken and Annie"

I will try to share more information of what I found out about the "secret letter" in the next newsletter! Also if any of my readers have information on this subject, please email me or write me!! 4. Larry W. Taylor email: From_The_Edge@webtv.net

3. DREAM OF THE SECRET PROPHECY LETTER OF ARMENIA April 29, 2003/ 3:00am by: Larry W. Taylor / I dreamed I was standing in front of and looking at a "sealed" Armenian Letter that was written by the Armenian prophet and sealed many years ago. I clearly saw a white envelope with a gold seal upon the area of a letter you would normally open. Then my eyes were opened and I saw a huge angel wearing white and holding a drawn sword standing in front of the Armenian Letter to defend this letter! That's the dream and I can still see this in my mind clearly. That gives me more to pray about. I feel that we are clearly in a time of incredible change and we must be very cautious and wise in the days just ahead! 3. LWT

2. SECRET LETTER PROPHECY FROM ARMENIA - 1852 Update! by: Larry W. Taylor / I am still waiting on more information on this letter to come in but did want to do an update on some of the information I have found out in regard to this interesting Prophecy Letter.
(1) I do believe this Prophecy Letter written in 1852 by Efim Gerasemovitch Klubniken is valid and still unopened.
(2) I do not believe the letter has ever been or is even now in the possession of the family of Demos Shakarian but is in the possession of the ancestors in America of the prophet, Efim Klubniken. However, Demos Shakarian apparently did share with a number of people that he knew about the letter and it was still unopened up to his death. Demos also explained all he could about the secret letter in the book, "The Happiest People On Earth" as told to John and Elizabeth Sherrill (1975). This book is out of print but a few copies can be found on AMAZON.COM
(3) The secret letter I believe is in the area of Los Angeles, CA.
(4) There is very little, if any at all, talk about this secret letter circulating on the Internet or in publications, so it is still a secret.
(5) I was sent information that some ancestors of Armenia are maybe jumping the gun and have been relocating to South America (I was given the name of the South American country but will not relay it right now).
(6) I have been contacted (not by the family with the letter) by others that the family with the secret letter do not feel it's time to unseal it yet.
(7) After my dream about the secret letter and angel (see next article) I am very cautious as to being aggressive about searching for information as to this letter and am letting information come to me in it's own time. The investigation proceeds slowly in any information about the Secret Letter but my question is: What event or happening is the trigger or the sign to the family of the Letter that it should be opened? There is more to come on this subject stay tuned! 2. Larry W. Taylor

(6) New information coming in on the Inquiry into the Secret Armenian Letter of Prophecy. This letter is apparently still sealed and in a undisclosed location in Los Angeles, CA. According to a recent source of knowledge about the facts, the secret letter custodians have been in the past approached by someone who said the Lord sent them to open the letter. Information is that one fell dead and the other met with quick terrible demise. So the Secret Letter of Prophecy written by the Prophet of Armenia is still unopened! Demos Shakarian had reported in the out-of-print book: " The Happiest People on Earth" by John and Elizabeth Sherrill, that death would greet anyone who tried to open the Secret Letter other than the one sent by God! (also see prior report of my dream of the Angel guarding the Secret Letter and I have tried to walk very carefully, spiritually in reporting about this letter and my inquiries into the facts of this letter --- Larry Taylor) Demos Shakarian also reported that he thought (Demos felt) that the Secret Letter when opened would be not only a directive from God for this future time to now direct the Armenian ancestors to safety, again; but also a word to the Christians in America to prepare them at an important time! Anyway, more information will be in this coming newsletter....

14. SECRET PROPHECY LETTER FROM ARMENIA - 1852 Update! by: Larry Taylor / For those who are following this story and search by me on the Secret Prophecy Letter written by the "Boy Prophet" named: Efim Gerasemovitch Klubniken in 1852 Armenia, then came with the Armenian peoples to this country still sealed, according to Demos Shakarian — I have located another person (named withheld at this time) closely associated with Demos who told me the Secret Letter is in Los Angeles, CA and is still unopened. Reportedly only one sent by God can open this letter without finding death! Demos Shakarian believed the letter contained directions needed at a future time by the ancestors of the Armenian people in America and a direct word for the Christians in America at that time too! Am still inquiring in this subject. 14. Larry Taylor...

(4) I seem to be finding a strange "thread" in the Secret Armenian Letter research. I also have a few people helping with the footwork around Los Angeles, CA. This Secret Letter seems to have taken on a "life of it's own!" In short, I am finding that there seems to be so much secrecy and clandestine facts in the search for truth about this Letter, that I am receiving the impression that the "SECRET" seems more important than the " FACTS and Message Contained Therein!" All my many attempts and contacts with FGBMFI Asso. or Richard Shakarian either go unanswered or replies with so few words and "zero" follow-ups that it's a Black Hole!!! Anyway, I keep trying. Interestingly, reports of the Armenian people quietly moving from the USA to South America, saying they were told by God to move ahead of the coming persecution in America, have been coming in since 1998. Funny that God would be telling the Armenian people to move when He's got a perfectly good "Letter" of Instruction written to them for years. Well, sometimes you just have to do it yourself!...

Ok, that about tells the story of the SEARCH, now here is the FIND:Larry was sent a letter by a David F. Wincoff who enclosed an actual letter that purports to be a DIRECT COPY of what God gave over a hundred years ago. The Church that has this letter refused to open it when confronted with "NOW IS THE TIME". So here goes the REST OF THE STORY:

"To my knowledge the actual sealed letter has never been released openly to my knowledge. Here is the story of how I got a copy: The great grandson of the Russian prophet who came over the mountains into Demos' grandfather's village in Armenia in the 1880s(?) with the baptism of the Holy Spirit ended up in Canada. About 10 years ago he heard from the Lord to go to the Russian Revival Church in LA that held the sealed letter to get it and declare it was time to heed the warning. The church was dead and refused to release the letter so he went into a fast for ten days and the Lord revealed the contents of the sealed letter. I have never shared the copy I was given as to my knowledge it has never been officially released..."

CONTENTS OF THE LETTER

"Run, run My people, whom I brought out from the places which have inherited the curse. Run into the wilderness with a heart thirsting for my water. Gather My Children, unto Zion, because the Kings of the earth are rejecting Me and the nations are turning against My people. (Psalm Two - SCB)

My blessing is departing from America saith the Lord of Hosts, because the Kings of this place are rejecting Me, and they are in fornication with Gog the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, of the land of Magog. (This is confirmed by the Soviet-American alliance to give more freedom to the Russian Confederation people and strip most of the freedoms of America away and merge them under the New World Order. See Revelation 13 and the BEAST, which Daniel also gave to us.- SCB)

Therefore (Because of the treason of the leaders in America), a TERRIBLE DISASTER IS COMING UPON THIS PLACE, (Yellowstone? Impact Event? Terrorism? - SCB) so depart from here and I shall bring out the obedient remnant from among you, which I shall hide in the wilderness. The wilderness shall blossom with a pleasant aroma. I will cleanse you and your children from your bad habits and sins and you shall know that you are branches grafted into my olive tree, if you shall obey my voice.

To Zion, to Zion are are going with thirst in our hearts! Enter into His gates with thanksgiving and into his courts with praise!

And suddenly I SAW AWESOME DARKNESS COMING UPON THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA: THE DARKNESS OF COMMUNISM UNDER THE BANNER OF EVOLUTION; ECONOMIC CONFUSION, RIOTS, AND NATIONS RISING UP AGAINST EACH OTHER IN U.S. AND CANADA; ( Nations in Scripture is ETHNIC GROUPS RISING UP AGAINST ETHNIC GROUPS - OR IT COULD MEAN STATES AGAINST STATES - Jeremiah said the same thing- SCB)and EARTHQUAKES IN CALIFORNIA AND ALONG THE EAST COAST, AND A BACKSLIDING ADULTERESS ON THE THRONE (HILLARY CLINTON? - SCB); MASSES OF SICK AND POOR PEOPLE; AND A CERTAIN NUMBER OF RICH UNGODLY PEOPLE IN AUTHORITY.

Awake, awake My people. Don't reject My messengers. Awake, awake, for a HARD TIME IS COMING.

And suddenly I heard a cry: My people are perishing for lack of knowledge.

Afterwards I saw 3 angels and one among them spoke to this people, "Why are your children unwashed: Where are they? Will you blame it on God? God forbid! Because the child has to be sanctified while he is yet in the womb of his mother, through the Holy prayer of the Holy Spirit. But you're rejecting this kind of prayer of the saintly men of God, you're reaping the fruits of the false Nicolaitan Doctrine, which the Lord Jesus Christ Himself hates! And afterwards I heard a cry, "My people, My people, how many times I wanted to gather you, but you believed the lying ones and the grievous wolves entered in among you, not sparing the flock. The enemy scattered you and you are decreasing in numbers because you rejected My power.

You heap to yourselves teachers tickling your ears. And you are rejecting My prophets, seeking your own ways and signs, leaning on your own understanding.

This is your LAST WARNING."

Here is where the prophecy ends. Read it carefully, for this prophecy does not deviate from the Lord's Word in Scripture, it is simply more personal and to a group of his people. It also applies to you and I. READ AND HEED.

***************

Original Letter

[link to www.truinsight.com]
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Re: Prophecies: Economic Collapse, WW3 by 2010Quote

Financial doom update-

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