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FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!

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Bob
User ID: 673258
7/4/2009 2:40 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

However, you can't say that all 220 million are 'able-bodied'..not even close. What about the tens of millions of disabled people in that demo?
 Quoting: NoMoreCages


Thanks. Almost forgot. Kill the disabled too.
The prophets had it wrong. The end is past and we didn't even blink.
AlreadyBuggedOut
User ID: 716206
7/4/2009 2:41 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

If you count those between 18 and 65 at 220 million as the labor force, and employment at 140 million, you have (1 - 140/220) = 36% abled bodied adults without work.


link?


[link to quickfacts.census.gov]

[link to www.bls.gov]

The demographic data is in the first link, the employment data is in the second. The 36% number is a mathematical calculation, it doent lie...


However, you can't say that all 220 million are 'able-bodied'..not even close. What about the tens of millions of disabled people in that demo?
 Quoting: NoMoreCages


Well buddy, you want to parse numbers to get a clearer picture? Then first discard your simplisitc 90% are employed figure and let's delve a little deeper. Certainly the unemployed are somewhere between 10% and 36%. Arent they?
Woman On The Edge
User ID: 711774
7/4/2009 2:41 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

Here ya go - take a look at the FACTS on this thread:

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718119
7/4/2009 2:42 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

Unemployment figures also don't account for recent college and high school graduates out looking for work.

My kid graduated from college over a year ago and still can't find a full time job in or out her field. Most of the kids she graduated with are in the same boat.

So we are looking at hundreds of thousands of these kids that are in essence out of work.
NoMoreCages
User ID: 694401
7/4/2009 2:43 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

If you count those between 18 and 65 at 220 million as the labor force, and employment at 140 million, you have (1 - 140/220) = 36% abled bodied adults without work.


link?


[link to quickfacts.census.gov]

[link to www.bls.gov]

The demographic data is in the first link, the employment data is in the second. The 36% number is a mathematical calculation, it doent lie...


However, you can't say that all 220 million are 'able-bodied'..not even close. What about the tens of millions of disabled people in that demo?


Well buddy, you want to parse numbers to get a clearer picture? Then first discard your simplisitc 90% are employed figure and let's delve a little deeper. Certainly the unemployed are somewhere between 10% and 36%. Arent they?
 Quoting: AlreadyBuggedOut


Again, I was simply stating an arbitrary figure..for the 10th time, moran. And who the fuck is parsing numbers except you? Are you trying to argue that there aren't literally 10s of millions that are disabled and unable to work in the 18-65 demo?

time for your nap, kid.
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ANNONYMOUS
User ID: 661006
7/4/2009 2:45 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

5a

The problem NMC is that you are arguing on one plane that being that percentage wise it doesn't appear that bad and the upshot of your argument is that it rally doesn't get bad until 51% are unemployed which would mean approx 70 mil would be out of work. The others are arguing population numbers of which 10% in real terms is approx 14 mil. You can't resolve an argument which takes place on two different planes because you can't find any common points of agreement. Thus you become frustrated and hostile to them just as they do towards you. Most political arguments today operate the same way that is why our people are so polarized and will continue to be so until we learn to discuss on level planes one at a time.
anonymous
User ID: 717922
7/4/2009 2:47 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

Except that in a country of 300 million that's 30 million people mostly with famillies, that don't have an income.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 706997

well 5 percent unemployment would be normal any way so that means 15 million are out of work more than norma,l . not counting day labors and the 10 million plus plus .eligals working for cas,h then remember kids are added into the total population of america so they would not have jobs any way. .
Mickeyblue
User ID: 330969
7/4/2009 2:47 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

Besides being pathetic in your statement you have a potty mouth. Having to call people names does not strengthen your arguement.

Look around you, dear boy, old people have to work. Read the responses and you will note that few agree with you.
Woman On The Edge
User ID: 711774
7/4/2009 2:48 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

Arbitrary figures?

Ummm, how can you say that numbers can or could be arbitrary?
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AlreadyBuggedOut
User ID: 716206
7/4/2009 2:48 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

If you count those between 18 and 65 at 220 million as the labor force, and employment at 140 million, you have (1 - 140/220) = 36% abled bodied adults without work.


link?


[link to quickfacts.census.gov]

[link to www.bls.gov]

The demographic data is in the first link, the employment data is in the second. The 36% number is a mathematical calculation, it doent lie...


However, you can't say that all 220 million are 'able-bodied'..not even close. What about the tens of millions of disabled people in that demo?


Well buddy, you want to parse numbers to get a clearer picture? Then first discard your simplisitc 90% are employed figure and let's delve a little deeper. Certainly the unemployed are somewhere between 10% and 36%. Arent they?


Again, I was simply stating an arbitrary figure..for the 10th time, moran. And who the fuck is parsing numbers except you? Are you trying to argue that there aren't literally 10s of millions that are disabled and unable to work in the 18-65 demo?
 Quoting: NoMoreCages


Listen, I was just "stating an arbitrary number" just like you. But you prefer an "arbitrary" number that doesnt take into account all the unemployed who are not in the labor force, who have dropped off the radar. Okay I am including them. If you want to exclude the diabled than DO YOUR RESEARCH instead of GUESSING how many there are...
Bob
User ID: 673258
7/4/2009 2:49 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

Unemployment figures also don't account for recent college and high school graduates out looking for work.

My kid graduated from college over a year ago and still can't find a full time job in or out her field. Most of the kids she graduated with are in the same boat.

So we are looking at hundreds of thousands of these kids that are in essence out of work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718119


Kill the unworking college students as well.
The prophets had it wrong. The end is past and we didn't even blink.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618285
7/4/2009 2:52 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

9 out of 10 people still have a job.

Doesn't sound so bad now, eh?
 Quoting: NoMoreCages


1 out of 10 is in NEED of a job and can't find one and is currently on unemployment

1 out of 20 is in NEED of a job and can't find one and is NOT currently on unemployment

1 out of 20 is on total federal assistance of some kind and is NOT working .

1 out of 10 is retired or cannot work and depends on a family member .

1 out of 50 is in college or otherwise getting loans to be qualified for a job

so..this comes out to about

32% of the WORKING AGE of population is not doing ANYTHING productive. (unemployed).

in places like California, Michigan you can nearly DOUBLE that number.

in the depression, the unemployment rate of 25% WAS NOT FIGURED USING ADJUSTED NUMBERS OF ONLY THOSE THAT WERE NO LONGER ON UNEMPLOYMENT BENFITS.

IF TODAY WE USE THE SAME METHOD OF CALCULATING THE NUMBER OF UNEMPLOYED AS THEY DID IN THE DEPRESSION ...

THE NUMBER IS ABOUT 24%...WE ARE AT DEPRESSION LEVELS. NOW.

AND IT IS GOING TO GET WORSE FOR YEARS TO COME
Cranky
User ID: 586322
7/4/2009 2:54 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

If the over 65 demographic or under 18 demographic does not interest you it should. They are DEPENDANT and the social security system relies on payroll deductions. What portion of the USA falls into the combination of these two groups?

Over 65 = 19%
Under 18 = 25%
Combined = 44% of US Citizens are dependent upon the other 56% so as the dependant % rises the EMPLOYED % falls.

14% Unemployment is the DEPRESSION THRESHOLD, ask any economist. This is basic so when you add the 30,000,000 illegal aliens to the mix more Americans wind up on the DEPENDANT side. After so many months of collecting UNEMPLOYMENT if you resort to moving back home to mom and dad the system is unable to account for you. Hence the statistics are all slanted and show a lower rate of unemployment than there actually is.


We should kill the over 65 and under 18. They contribute nothing to society.
 Quoting: Bob


One of the stated objectives of Communism is the Destruction of the Family Unit and your idea would further that agenda along. This sort of we should do this and we should kill that implies that at least 51% of the people accept that idea. The DEMOCRATIC principal of majority rule actually may attempt such a thing! So, when you come upon your over 65 parents sitting on the couch it will be your duty and task to kill the ones that gave you life for the greater good!
AlreadyBuggedOut
User ID: 716206
7/4/2009 2:59 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

If the over 65 demographic or under 18 demographic does not interest you it should. They are DEPENDANT and the social security system relies on payroll deductions. What portion of the USA falls into the combination of these two groups?

Over 65 = 19%
Under 18 = 25%
Combined = 44% of US Citizens are dependent upon the other 56% so as the dependant % rises the EMPLOYED % falls.

14% Unemployment is the DEPRESSION THRESHOLD, ask any economist. This is basic so when you add the 30,000,000 illegal aliens to the mix more Americans wind up on the DEPENDANT side. After so many months of collecting UNEMPLOYMENT if you resort to moving back home to mom and dad the system is unable to account for you. Hence the statistics are all slanted and show a lower rate of unemployment than there actually is.


We should kill the over 65 and under 18. They contribute nothing to society.


One of the stated objectives of Communism is the Destruction of the Family Unit and your idea would further that agenda along. ...So, when you come upon your over 65 parents sitting on the couch it will be your duty and task to kill the ones that gave you life for the greater good!
 Quoting: Cranky


Cease and desist. No where in the history of the world has this been the case. How come in Cuba they havent killed their elderly? Because the majority accept it? No, because it is basic norm for all humanity.
Robert46
User ID: 717492
7/4/2009 3:00 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

Wrong

Your facts are way off, keep looking though.


If there is 10% unemployment there is 90% employment...how hard is that to understand, dumbass?
 Quoting: NoMoreCages


You're the dummy here you fool. Unemployment rates are calculated by how many people file for unemployment and who are still recieving a unemployment check. your unemployment runs out, you're taken off the rolls as unemployed, even though one still has not found paying work.

Just because the govt puts out a offical figure say like 10% does not mean thats the actual percentage of people out of work.
You must believe everything the govt offically anounces or puts forth as fact? Which is foolish on it's face!
AlreadyBuggedOut
User ID: 716206
7/4/2009 3:02 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

If you count those between 18 and 65 at 220 million as the labor force, and employment at 140 million, you have (1 - 140/220) = 36% abled bodied adults without work.


link?


[link to quickfacts.census.gov]

[link to www.bls.gov]

The demographic data is in the first link, the employment data is in the second. The 36% number is a mathematical calculation, it doent lie...

---
However, you can't say that all 220 million are 'able-bodied'..not even close. What about the tens of millions of disabled people in that demo?

---
Well buddy, you want to parse numbers to get a clearer picture? Then first discard your simplisitc 90% are employed figure and let's delve a little deeper. Certainly the unemployed are somewhere between 10% and 36%. Arent they?
---

Again, I was simply stating an arbitrary figure..for the 10th time, moran. And who the fuck is parsing numbers except you? Are you trying to argue that there aren't literally 10s of millions that are disabled and unable to work in the 18-65 demo?

----
Listen, I was just "stating an arbitrary number" just like you. But you prefer an "arbitrary" number that doesnt take into account all the unemployed who are not in the labor force, who have dropped off the radar. Okay I am including them. If you want to exclude the diabled than DO YOUR RESEARCH instead of GUESSING how many there are...
 Quoting: AlreadyBuggedOut


Disabled of working age (18 to 65) is around 10 million. Therefore 1 - 140/(220-10)= 33% abled bodied unemployed...

[link to social.jrank.org]

Anything else OP?

Last Edited by AlreadyBuggedOut on 7/4/2009 at 3:05 PM
Cranky
User ID: 586322
7/4/2009 3:04 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

If you count those between 18 and 65 at 220 million as the labor force, and employment at 140 million, you have (1 - 140/220) = 36% abled bodied adults without work.


link?


[link to quickfacts.census.gov]

[link to www.bls.gov]

The demographic data is in the first link, the employment data is in the second. The 36% number is a mathematical calculation, it doent lie...


However, you can't say that all 220 million are 'able-bodied'..not even close. What about the tens of millions of disabled people in that demo?


Well buddy, you want to parse numbers to get a clearer picture? Then first discard your simplisitc 90% are employed figure and let's delve a little deeper. Certainly the unemployed are somewhere between 10% and 36%. Arent they?


Again, I was simply stating an arbitrary figure..for the 10th time, moran. And who the fuck is parsing numbers except you? Are you trying to argue that there aren't literally 10s of millions that are disabled and unable to work in the 18-65 demo?



Listen, I was just "stating an arbitrary number" just like you. But you prefer an "arbitrary" number that doesnt take into account all the unemployed who are not in the labor force, who have dropped off the radar. Okay I am including them. If you want to exclude the diabled than DO YOUR RESEARCH instead of GUESSING how many there are...
 Quoting: AlreadyBuggedOut



Funny how the one ad hominem guy is arguing with the other ad hominem guy!


Quick! Print Screen for the Kodak moment "Say Cheese!"


popcorn
bornprayed4knowledge​
User ID: 515279
7/4/2009 3:07 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

my 2 cents what about the self employed construction small business owners that are not apart of the unemployed percentage, here industrail jobs got sent overseas 20 somtehing odd years agian (nafta) now for those that stuck around they are getting a stimulis package to pick up and move to china with our tax dollars.Thats more less jobs less jobs less money to spend on small businesses now there closing there doors . you guys do not see what even one lost job does much less 30 percent not working it will only get worse.

and now we have forward to cap and trade which in a depression means u will have a 80 percent increase in cost of survival (living) all i got to say is go back watching the kings funeral while the trillion aires fight over your kids future good luck huminaty nowonder they control us .just remeber even oneless could cost you your livly hood
Cranky
User ID: 586322
7/4/2009 3:07 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

If the over 65 demographic or under 18 demographic does not interest you it should. They are DEPENDANT and the social security system relies on payroll deductions. What portion of the USA falls into the combination of these two groups?

Over 65 = 19%
Under 18 = 25%
Combined = 44% of US Citizens are dependent upon the other 56% so as the dependant % rises the EMPLOYED % falls.

14% Unemployment is the DEPRESSION THRESHOLD, ask any economist. This is basic so when you add the 30,000,000 illegal aliens to the mix more Americans wind up on the DEPENDANT side. After so many months of collecting UNEMPLOYMENT if you resort to moving back home to mom and dad the system is unable to account for you. Hence the statistics are all slanted and show a lower rate of unemployment than there actually is.


We should kill the over 65 and under 18. They contribute nothing to society.


One of the stated objectives of Communism is the Destruction of the Family Unit and your idea would further that agenda along. ...So, when you come upon your over 65 parents sitting on the couch it will be your duty and task to kill the ones that gave you life for the greater good!


Cease and desist. No where in the history of the world has this been the case. How come in Cuba they havent killed their elderly? Because the majority accept it? No, because it is basic norm for all humanity.
 Quoting: AlreadyBuggedOut


Now the ad hominem man barks, "CEASE & DESIST!"

whatever

My King

pick

Oh and here My King a quick search says that you are well WRONG....
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Last Edited by Cranky on 7/4/2009 at 3:10 PM
anonymous
User ID: 717922
7/4/2009 3:07 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

Unemployment figures also don't account for recent college and high school graduates out looking for work.

My kid graduated from college over a year ago and still can't find a full time job in or out her field. Most of the kids she graduated with are in the same boat.

So we are looking at hundreds of thousands of these kids that are in essence out of work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718119

many college grads will not locate to another region for employment in thier field.. the one who change region travel ligt and make do in the new region til positions show up in the desired region.. this all happened in the hard recession of the 1980s ..........................pluus many college grads hire on in differant fields and still do well and advance in the new field quickly.. employers still want inteligent colledge grads people to grow with companies. .. and cut them alot of slack while they are learning the ropes. .... that degree opens doors if you will just knock long en,ought everywhere . .so college grads should not box thierself in whle they are young and unincumbered .
AlreadyBuggedOut
User ID: 716206
7/4/2009 3:08 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

If you count those between 18 and 65 at 220 million as the labor force, and employment at 140 million, you have (1 - 140/220) = 36% abled bodied adults without work.


link?


[link to quickfacts.census.gov]

[link to www.bls.gov]

The demographic data is in the first link, the employment data is in the second. The 36% number is a mathematical calculation, it doent lie...


However, you can't say that all 220 million are 'able-bodied'..not even close. What about the tens of millions of disabled people in that demo?


Well buddy, you want to parse numbers to get a clearer picture? Then first discard your simplisitc 90% are employed figure and let's delve a little deeper. Certainly the unemployed are somewhere between 10% and 36%. Arent they?


Again, I was simply stating an arbitrary figure..for the 10th time, moran. And who the fuck is parsing numbers except you? Are you trying to argue that there aren't literally 10s of millions that are disabled and unable to work in the 18-65 demo?



Listen, I was just "stating an arbitrary number" just like you. But you prefer an "arbitrary" number that doesnt take into account all the unemployed who are not in the labor force, who have dropped off the radar. Okay I am including them. If you want to exclude the diabled than DO YOUR RESEARCH instead of GUESSING how many there are...


---
Funny how the one ad hominem guy is arguing with the other ad hominem guy!


Quick! Print Screen for the Kodak moment "Say Cheese!"


popcorn
 Quoting: Cranky


Actually we are on the same side on this one. Strange bedfellows. I am posting figures and the assumptions behind those figures so are you.

You stick to the under 18, over 65s and I'll stick to the 18 to 65s.
Robert46
User ID: 717492
7/4/2009 3:09 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

Ah let's see, 10% unemployed, 30% living off their savings and off the radar, 40% working for the government, that leaves what, 20% with actual jobs?


You actually believe that only 20% have actual jobs?

lmao

Get out of the basement more, and watch the real world, trevor.


You call working for the government a job? Ya stupid ass kid, Obama boot licker.


police, fire, teachers....not jobs? don't they all pay into the same system private workers do?

I hate Obama, and 99% of all politicians...owned again, son.
 Quoting: NoMoreCages


Police,firemen,teachers all get payed from the wealth created from the private sector or haven't you heard about states and countys laying off govt public servant jobs because not enough private sector revenue is coming in to the local and state govt coffers!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 710998
7/4/2009 3:11 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

Let me guess...you consider yourself a "republican". After all the massive layoffs and plants closing this year, you'd think you'd be smart enough to see the "official" statistics are way off. Go down to your local workforce station and see just how busy they are with the unemployed. Oh wait, you're a paid shill operating out of Texas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 679580


he is too stupid to be claimed by the republicans. Well wait maybe not.
awthrawthr Subscriber
User ID: 718133
7/4/2009 3:12 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

9 out of 10 people still have a job.

Doesn't sound so bad now, eh?
 Quoting: NoMoreCages


Yes, and the average work week is 33 hours. That's 82.5%.

So to get an accurate reading you need to multiply the 90% x 82.5% to get the real employment rate. It equals 74.3%

If you want to celebrate 74.3%, you'd better not do it near an unemployment line or in front of someone who is having trouble getting enough hours to pay their bills.

Last Edited by awthrawthr on 7/4/2009 at 3:12 PM
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AlreadyBuggedOut
User ID: 716206
7/4/2009 3:12 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

We should kill the over 65 and under 18. They contribute nothing to society.
---

One of the stated objectives of Communism is the Destruction of the Family Unit and your idea would further that agenda along. ...So, when you come upon your over 65 parents sitting on the couch it will be your duty and task to kill the ones that gave you life for the greater good!


Cease and desist. No where in the history of the world has this been the case. How come in Cuba they havent killed their elderly? Because the majority accept it? No, because it is basic norm for all humanity.

---
Now the ad hominem man barks, "CEASE & DESIST!"



My King
 Quoting: Cranky


You dont know what ad hominum means. Especially since you dont realize it is you that is engaging in it.

An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.

My real life examples undermine your argument. I am not attacking you. But you dont respond to my examples, instead you attack me... re ad hominum

Last Edited by AlreadyBuggedOut on 7/4/2009 at 3:15 PM
anonymous
User ID: 717922
7/4/2009 3:13 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

However, you can't say that all 220 million are 'able-bodied'..not even close. What about the tens of millions of disabled people in that demo?


Thanks. Almost forgot. Kill the disabled too.
 Quoting: Bob

not quite so fast,, caue the disabled they got paid for homes that thier adult kids live at, and they baby sit the grand kids.. so you cant get rid of them either. it would be counterproductive . america is waxed into a corner . can we just go get iran . .
Robert46
User ID: 717492
7/4/2009 3:17 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

my 2 cents what about the self employed construction small business owners that are not apart of the unemployed percentage, here industrail jobs got sent overseas 20 somtehing odd years agian (nafta) now for those that stuck around they are getting a stimulis package to pick up and move to china with our tax dollars.Thats more less jobs less jobs less money to spend on small businesses now there closing there doors . you guys do not see what even one lost job does much less 30 percent not working it will only get worse.

and now we have forward to cap and trade which in a depression means u will have a 80 percent increase in cost of survival (living) all i got to say is go back watching the kings funeral while the trillion aires fight over your kids future good luck huminaty nowonder they control us .just remeber even oneless could cost you your livly hood
 Quoting: bornprayed4knowledge


Correct! You hit the nail on the head! The US industrial base was and is being gutted using American tax dollars to ship whole industrys over seas.

The US govt dept of OPIC(Overseas Private Investment Corporation), is the branch of the US govt thats been financing the gutting of American manufacturing industry.
AlreadyBuggedOut
User ID: 716206
7/4/2009 3:18 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

a quick search says that you are well WRONG....
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 Quoting: Cranky


...in the past some Eskimos did kill old people when circumstances were sufficiently desperate.

I didnt realize Inuit were considered a part of the Global Cummunist conspiracy. You are grabbing at straws...
Cranky
User ID: 586322
7/4/2009 3:19 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

If you count those between 18 and 65 at 220 million as the labor force, and employment at 140 million, you have (1 - 140/220) = 36% abled bodied adults without work.


link?


[link to quickfacts.census.gov]

[link to www.bls.gov]

The demographic data is in the first link, the employment data is in the second. The 36% number is a mathematical calculation, it doent lie...


However, you can't say that all 220 million are 'able-bodied'..not even close. What about the tens of millions of disabled people in that demo?


Well buddy, you want to parse numbers to get a clearer picture? Then first discard your simplisitc 90% are employed figure and let's delve a little deeper. Certainly the unemployed are somewhere between 10% and 36%. Arent they?


Again, I was simply stating an arbitrary figure..for the 10th time, moran. And who the fuck is parsing numbers except you? Are you trying to argue that there aren't literally 10s of millions that are disabled and unable to work in the 18-65 demo?



Listen, I was just "stating an arbitrary number" just like you. But you prefer an "arbitrary" number that doesnt take into account all the unemployed who are not in the labor force, who have dropped off the radar. Okay I am including them. If you want to exclude the diabled than DO YOUR RESEARCH instead of GUESSING how many there are...


---
Funny how the one ad hominem guy is arguing with the other ad hominem guy!


Quick! Print Screen for the Kodak moment "Say Cheese!"


popcorn


Actually we are on the same side on this one. Strange bedfellows. I am posting figures and the assumptions behind those figures so are you.

You stick to the under 18, over 65s and I'll stick to the 18 to 65s.
 Quoting: AlreadyBuggedOut


I'm not on your side or his side or any side. The subject of the thread is INCORRECTLY STATED. The fact is you and the OP are both TROLLS and it is IRONC that you bait each other.

In a way it is super FUNNY as the one ASSHOLE vs. another ASSHOLE!

popcorn
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 681333
7/4/2009 3:21 PM
Re: FACT: 10% UNEMPLOYMENT = 90% of People HAVE JOBS!Quote

9 out of 10 people still have a job.

Doesn't sound so bad now, eh?
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