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Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?

 
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Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
Four days ago I remarked to a co-worker that it was lucky I hadn't been stung by a bee, wasp, hornet, or yellow jacket in at least 20 years because I tend to have allergic reactions to being stung. I may have "jinxed " myself because yesterday I was stung by a wasp on my eyebrow, and ended up in the emergency room four 4 hours with severe swelling of my entire head and neck, hives, itching and redness from the waist up, and difficulty breathing. My condition was easily treated with oxygen and an allergic reaction cocktail of drugs, and I am fine; just the right side of my face is swollen now.

Now to my point: most conspiracy theorists I talk to, and blogs I read suggest that there is no such thing as coincidence when it comes to TPTB, NWO, etc. Does our reality include the ability to "progam" future events by talking about them, or merely focusing on them? Should we all be more careful about what we pay attention to, and what comes out of our mouths? Or is it just a random coincidence that this minor event messed up my family's holiday?
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
they believe in anything...
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
look of course we believe in coincidence somtimes.
But sometimes we believe in a theory.
Now the worst thing to be is a conincidence theorist. These type of people beleive that every crazy event from 9/11 to planes dropping out of the sky to moon landings to global warming to chemtrails to ufos all being just a coincidence.
These are the blind. Blind leading the blind.
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
[fill in what you want]

for example:
Coincidence is [Gods] way of staying anonymous
or
Coincidence is [TPTB] way of staying anonymous
ect
ect...
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Everything happens for a reason, careful what you wish for!
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
Does our reality include the ability to "program" future events by talking about them, or merely focusing on them? Should we all be more careful about what we pay attention to, and what comes out of our mouths? Or is it just a random coincidence that this minor event messed up my family's holiday?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 694356

Program or predict? Where you being warned with in your own thoughts by a power you have yet to discover?

"Should we be more careful?" Look around & pay attention, you will be able to answer that question for yourself.

"random coincidence" Is just intellectual laziness IMO.
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
they are synchroncities
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
Everything happens for a reason, careful what you wish for!
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I wasn't wishing for it, believe me. I don't like hospitals at all. Statistically, I'm sure I was overdue to be stung, but it was just so odd that I had mentioned it earlier in the week; this is not the sort of thing I talk about regularly.

This link may describe the concept I'm thinking of better than I can. I'm bouncing the idea of attention versus coincidence around my head.

[link to www.life-enthusiast.com]
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Everything happens for a reason, careful what you wish for!
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Demand proof aka a sign from God
and get one aka the TToD. clock
The deception continues to crumble.
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You don't have to want it, just focusing your attention is as good as wishing for it, this is why we all have that inbuilt anxiety about laughing at anothers misfortune, it's kind of karmatic, sometimes we wish for black but get white, the universe at the core level is both either or, they're completely interchangeable and in essence the same thing.
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
You don't have to want it, just focusing your attention is as good as wishing for it, this is why we all have that inbuilt anxiety about laughing at anothers misfortune, it's kind of karmatic, sometimes we wish for black but get white, the universe at the core level is both either or, they're completely interchangeable and in essence the same thing.
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and sometimes we wish to not get white, and by the act of doing that we get it, controlling reality is a cumbersome project, full of paradoxes that are virtually impossible to navigate with our enemy called 'the brain'
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
they believe in anything...
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But..not everything!

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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
Everything happens for a reason, careful what you wish for!


Demand proof aka a sign from God
and get one aka the TToD. :clock:
 Quoting: MagiChristmas

So, the short version is that coincidence is a sign from God? I'm completely unclear on the TToD stuff, but am reading the links you provided.
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they believe in anything...

But..not everything!

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A very wise man once said:
"Always learning, but never coming to a knowledge of the truth."
The deception continues to crumble.
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
Unfortunately, you caused it to happen by saying it. You should have 'knocked on wood' literally - as soon as you said it. It cancels out anything you say (and thereby 'put out there') that you don't want to happen.
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
Four days ago I remarked to a co-worker that it was lucky I hadn't been stung by a bee, wasp, hornet, or yellow jacket in at least 20 years
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that's really amazing !

by a remarkable coincidence ,Four days ago I remarked to a co-worker that it was lucky I hadn't been stung by a bee, wasp, hornet, or yellow jacket in at least 20 years

'n then, when i asked around - it turned out that almost all my co-workers had remarked to co-workers the exact
same thing 4 days ago

further enquiries revealed that 1000's of hospital workers had remarked to each other ( yep, 4 days ago)
that it had been 20 years since 1000's of workers had been
admitted with sting-allergies

of course - it's just a coincidence - there's nothing sinister about it
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
Your event could have been pure coincidence or it could have been programming or "BRIDGING" the future/outcome. Heck, sometimes I thing both are even connected and "WE" make the choice and may not realize that had we turned left or had we turned right could completely change our lives or refocus our direction or even make us redefine our own thinking.

It is possible that we are in a constant battle of programming vs. coincidence. I like that...day/night...ying/yang...pre-destiny vs. chaos. :-)
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
There are some real conspiracies, but I also think sometimes conspiracy theorists get bored and invent new conspiracies.

Also I find it highly likely that once trained in "conspiracy thinking", conspiracy theorists tend to see all and everything through a conspiracy-tinted reality filter. Which is ridiculous, because world events never are "just conspiracies", just like they never are "just coincidences".

It's always a mix of both because we live in a complex world, which is too much to bear for some simple-minded people. SOME conspiracy folk can be very simplistic.
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
they believe in anything...
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..especially JUSTICE!

ohyeah
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There are some real conspiracies, but I also think sometimes conspiracy theorists get bored and invent new conspiracies.
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so there's some real conspiracies - but its more interesting to talk about people who get bored ?
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Unfortunately, you caused it to happen by saying it. You should have 'knocked on wood' literally - as soon as you said it. It cancels out anything you say (and thereby 'put out there') that you don't want to happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 652582

I always thought this was superstitious nonsense, but according to Wikipedia it's a somewhat universal superstition. Hmmm...
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
Four days ago I remarked to a co-worker that it was lucky I hadn't been stung by a bee, wasp, hornet, or yellow jacket in at least 20 years because I tend to have allergic reactions to being stung. I may have "jinxed " myself because yesterday I was stung by a wasp on my eyebrow, and ended up in the emergency room four 4 hours with severe swelling of my entire head and neck, hives, itching and redness from the waist up, and difficulty breathing. My condition was easily treated with oxygen and an allergic reaction cocktail of drugs, and I am fine; just the right side of my face is swollen now.

Now to my point: most conspiracy theorists I talk to, and blogs I read suggest that there is no such thing as coincidence when it comes to TPTB, NWO, etc. Does our reality include the ability to "progam" future events by talking about them, or merely focusing on them? Should we all be more careful about what we pay attention to, and what comes out of our mouths? Or is it just a random coincidence that this minor event messed up my family's holiday?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 694356



There is no coincidence. More than likely, you worried that wasp straight to you. Did you use the "j" word when you said thatto your co-worker? Many people believe that just uttering that word will indeed do what the word means. I never ever say that word.
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
There are some real conspiracies, but I also think sometimes conspiracy theorists get bored and invent new conspiracies.

so there's some real conspiracies - but its more interesting to talk about people who get bored ?
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I don't know... do you think so? Some people get bored very easily.
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once you become a conspiracy certainist-thats when it really gets all tricky:>~
everybody knows that
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Unfortunately, you caused it to happen by saying it. You should have 'knocked on wood' literally - as soon as you said it. It cancels out anything you say (and thereby 'put out there') that you don't want to happen.
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yes. what he said. should've knocked on wood.
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There are some real conspiracies, but I also think sometimes conspiracy theorists get bored and invent new conspiracies.

so there's some real conspiracies - but its more interesting to talk about people who get bored ?
.


I don't know... do you think so? Some people get bored very easily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718526

what - you don't know if real conspiracies are more interesting than people who get bored easily ?

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Four days ago I remarked to a co-worker that it was lucky I hadn't been stung by a bee, wasp, hornet, or yellow jacket in at least 20 years because I tend to have allergic reactions to being stung. I may have "jinxed " myself because yesterday I was stung by a wasp on my eyebrow, and ended up in the emergency room four 4 hours with severe swelling of my entire head and neck, hives, itching and redness from the waist up, and difficulty breathing. My condition was easily treated with oxygen and an allergic reaction cocktail of drugs, and I am fine; just the right side of my face is swollen now.

Now to my point: most conspiracy theorists I talk to, and blogs I read suggest that there is no such thing as coincidence when it comes to TPTB, NWO, etc. Does our reality include the ability to "progam" future events by talking about them, or merely focusing on them? Should we all be more careful about what we pay attention to, and what comes out of our mouths? Or is it just a random coincidence that this minor event messed up my family's holiday?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 694356


Re: your bee story, DUDE. Didn't it ever occur to YOU that YOU may be prescient? In other words, how in the F could THAT happen by coincidence? Your bee sting, I mean?

Everything is possible. We have been programmed to believe it isn't in the same way that you can get a deer to believe it can't jump a low fence by hanging a string across up higher.

Yes, consipracy and coincidence co-exist. You sound like you don't think that's possible.

Dude, you are a prisoner of your own mind. Hopefully that bee sting woke you up a bit.
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Four days ago I remarked to a co-worker that it was lucky I hadn't been stung by a bee, wasp, hornet, or yellow jacket in at least 20 years because I tend to have allergic reactions to being stung. I may have "jinxed " myself because yesterday I was stung by a wasp on my eyebrow, and ended up in the emergency room four 4 hours with severe swelling of my entire head and neck, hives, itching and redness from the waist up, and difficulty breathing. My condition was easily treated with oxygen and an allergic reaction cocktail of drugs, and I am fine; just the right side of my face is swollen now.

Now to my point: most conspiracy theorists I talk to, and blogs I read suggest that there is no such thing as coincidence when it comes to TPTB, NWO, etc. Does our reality include the ability to "progam" future events by talking about them, or merely focusing on them? Should we all be more careful about what we pay attention to, and what comes out of our mouths? Or is it just a random coincidence that this minor event messed up my family's holiday?


Re: your bee story, DUDE. Didn't it ever occur to YOU that YOU may be prescient? In other words, how in the F could THAT happen by coincidence? Your bee sting, I mean?

Everything is possible. We have been programmed to believe it isn't in the same way that you can get a deer to believe it can't jump a low fence by hanging a string across up higher.

Yes, consipracy and coincidence co-exist. You sound like you don't think that's possible.

Dude, you are a prisoner of your own mind. Hopefully that bee sting woke you up a bit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646901

And one more thing. We ALL have the capacity to be prescient. People have been programmed to be afraid of that and view it is negative. THat's only because if everyone relaxed enough to be able to use it, all the crooks around would be caught very shortly. We'd all be able to see through all the deception. But they have us trained like deers. We're "contained" in an imaginary pen, with a flimsy little piece of string holding us in. We could get out any time we want, but we're afraid to because of the fear conditioning they hold us with too.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to investigate the idea of "knocking on wood" further, which I suspect may work because we focus our attention on negating whatever we just focused our attention on; likewise not using the work "jinx". Good ideas, and more food for thought. Thanks!
I'm back to bed - the Benadryl is kicking in.
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
Two basoc types of "coincidences" in End Times Hoaxes
- by God (1)
- by the illuminati (2)

Notes
(1) Example that took place very close to the end of Illuminati End Times and was explained hours laters, Jun 2, 2009
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

(2) Example dated the moment the first bullet of of Illuminati End Times was fired and was explained 95 years later to the day, Jun 28, 2009
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Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
There are some real conspiracies, but I also think sometimes conspiracy theorists get bored and invent new conspiracies.

so there's some real conspiracies - but its more interesting to talk about people who get bored ?
.


I don't know... do you think so? Some people get bored very easily.

what - you don't know if real conspiracies are more interesting than people who get bored easily ?

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 Quoting: pt 587237


There always have been conspiracies at all times, some minor, some big. Now, applying your logic, nobody would have talked about anything else than conspiracies since the beginning of human consciousness - because through all that time it would have remained the most interesting subject around. Now I don't know about you, but I like a variety of topics, not only conspiracies.

Besides, this discussion wasn't my point. I was just pointing out that some conspiracy theorists get bored by the real conspiracies and then they invent new ones. Also, some of them are in the business of making money by supplying the "conspiracy folk" with new stories to ponder. Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, pick your poison.

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