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Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 703110
7/5/2009 2:22 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
You may now be on to an entirely different can of worms. Is precognition not the unconscious foreshadowing of events, but rather our potentially inaccurate perception of time as linear? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 694356
In one of his books, Robert Anton Wilson discussed this in an essay, illustrated with a diagram of a five pointed star labeled "A B C D E" at the points, with the requisite lines linking each point of the star. His idea was that every event interacts with and is dependent upon every other event.
Perception of time as linear may be a habit, as it's the easiest way to function in the material world.
But, some cultures perceive time more non-linearly than others. Like the Hopi. |
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The Truth
User ID: 663058
7/5/2009 2:23 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
Coincidence is relative. There is no such thing as luck. You can only be fortunate or unfortunate; possibly somewhere in between depending on the context.
Talking about something doesn't mean anything. We know that all things consist of a certain level of probability. Thus anything and everything is probable even if there is a millionth of a percent according to science. I stress that this is according to science.
Most conspiracy theorists deal with corruption in our government, but the Bible spoke of such things long ago:
Ephesians 6
12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
This has been foretold and so it is today. What does that mean? We all have a destiny and there is a God that has a plan. Therefore, there is no luck. Only fortune exists. We all have paths and roles to play. Depending on our freewill and choices, only natural outcomes will occur.
You can think of it as almost like a sandbox style game. There is a set of rules that the player is subject to. Depending on the choices of the player, the game character will suffer the results. We as human beings are subject to the laws of the universe and the evils that exist today. Based on our decisions of freewill, we suffer the outcome -good or bad, which is relative. However, we have before us a finite number of possible choices in front of us that is governed by the natural laws of existence as we perceive it in the flesh. In other words, you can only make a choice that can be enacted in this realm of existence as we are bound by the natural order of things.
Anyone can dismiss the existence of God, but then again you are exercising your freewill. This will then put you in the camp that believes in luck rather than fortune thus supporting the idea that an unnatural law of the universe similar to the idea of magic exists. This is unfounded and there is no proof of it. However, we have proof of God's existence right in front of us through the very act of exercising freewill. I could expound on this much further but it is best for someone to seek this on their own.
Coincidence. It exists. For example, I can wear red pants and let's say Joe, my neighbor, decides to wear red pants on the very same day. I go outside at 3 'o clock, and Joe goes outside at 3. I decide to buy a black car and Joe buys a black car. We both live next to each other. What is the pattern here? It is by coincident that Joe and I have the same poor taste. LOL The very word defines itself: "co-" and "incident" which basically means to occur together in time and space. Even two seemingly unrelated things can become coincident with each other, like so-called democracy and the spread of corruption. |
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Fool
User ID: 676461
7/5/2009 2:25 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
My thought about it is:
If it affects you directly, it's not co-incidence
But then I get into the icky topic of determining the line between something directly affecting you, or not
I guess only in hindsight can you determine if what happened to you was part of your own realm, or someone else's |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 703110
7/5/2009 2:32 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
"Once is chance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action."
For "enemy action", one might substitute "divine action" or "intuition", depending upon context. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 572676
7/5/2009 2:33 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
Robert Anton Wilson also talks about coincidence in the Illuminatus trilogy and the quote is similar to: A belief in coincidence is the prevailing superstition of the science/modern age. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 691982
7/5/2009 2:38 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
depends on the probability of such event to happen. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 703110
7/5/2009 2:40 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
I once went to a laundramat and did my washing. There was no other person there the entire time I washed and dried the clothes.
Out of sheer boredom, I watched the drying cycle from beginning to end. When it had finished, I went directly to the dryer to gather my clothes and found lying atop the rumpled now-dry clothing one of my t-shirts, perfectly folded, without a wrinkle. This is a true story.
Because of the inanity of this, that it held no other meaning to other events in my life, I concluded that it was a coincidence. Highly, marvelously, unlikely to ever occur and to have been so thoroughly witnessed to have occurred, but theoretically possible.
But, I simultaneously don't think it was coincidence that I happened to be watching the entire boring episode, and that life showed me something interesting by this. |
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JJackF108
User ID: 667270
7/5/2009 2:41 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
Ahhhhhhhhhhh....The Good Samaritain....Strike's again.......
Rebirth is possible in life, no matter how many tries it takes!!!
I have an opinion, you just might not like it!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 703110
7/5/2009 2:41 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
Robert Anton Wilson also talks about coincidence in the Illuminatus trilogy and the quote is similar to: A belief in coincidence is the prevailing superstition of the science/modern age. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 572676
Right. Very interesting writer. I had the privilege of corresponding with him 20 plus years ago. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 691982
7/5/2009 2:43 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
1/1.5 = probable casuality
1/100000 = probable CAUSALity |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 532335
7/5/2009 2:52 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
It's called Synchronisity.
You determine what will happen to you by making choises.
We all have free will- the trump card that overrides all Univerlsal laws. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 703110
7/5/2009 3:32 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
It's called Synchronisity.
You determine what will happen to you by making choises.
We all have free will- the trump card that overrides all Univerlsal laws. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 532335
You're perhaps confusing Synchronicity with Solipcism? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716635
7/5/2009 3:59 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
Coincidence is relative. There is no such thing as luck. You can only be fortunate or unfortunate; possibly somewhere in between depending on the context.
Talking about something doesn't mean anything. We know that all things consist of a certain level of probability. Thus anything and everything is probable even if there is a millionth of a percent according to science. I stress that this is according to science.
Most conspiracy theorists deal with corruption in our government, but the Bible spoke of such things long ago:
Ephesians 6
12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
This has been foretold and so it is today. What does that mean? We all have a destiny and there is a God that has a plan. Therefore, there is no luck. Only fortune exists. We all have paths and roles to play. Depending on our freewill and choices, only natural outcomes will occur.
You can think of it as almost like a sandbox style game. There is a set of rules that the player is subject to. Depending on the choices of the player, the game character will suffer the results. We as human beings are subject to the laws of the universe and the evils that exist today. Based on our decisions of freewill, we suffer the outcome -good or bad, which is relative. However, we have before us a finite number of possible choices in front of us that is governed by the natural laws of existence as we perceive it in the flesh. In other words, you can only make a choice that can be enacted in this realm of existence as we are bound by the natural order of things.
Anyone can dismiss the existence of God, but then again you are exercising your freewill. This will then put you in the camp that believes in luck rather than fortune thus supporting the idea that an unnatural law of the universe similar to the idea of magic exists. This is unfounded and there is no proof of it. However, we have proof of God's existence right in front of us through the very act of exercising freewill. I could expound on this much further but it is best for someone to seek this on their own.
Coincidence. It exists. For example, I can wear red pants and let's say Joe, my neighbor, decides to wear red pants on the very same day. I go outside at 3 'o clock, and Joe goes outside at 3. I decide to buy a black car and Joe buys a black car. We both live next to each other. What is the pattern here? It is by coincident that Joe and I have the same poor taste. LOL The very word defines itself: "co-" and "incident" which basically means to occur together in time and space. Even two seemingly unrelated things can become coincident with each other, like so-called democracy and the spread of corruption. Quoting: The Truth 663058
Foretold crap it has always been, not just coming true today. We each have a daemon that the current peoples would have you believe is your ego, subconscious as if it is really part of you....No It is assigned to you, it is not part of the soul that you are.... If you have a daemon who wants to make ammends and get the hell out of here, then it works with you to teach you and sacrifices itself when the time comes to gain the mercy of the guardian angel and god.
The reason this has been poopooed by mainstream as supersticious is well how can people not freak out if they knew there was a daemon with them at all times....considering what we have taught them about daemons oh sorry I mean demons, devils, horns, and slanted eyes, etc. Now if it makes you feel better you can call him an ego.
We all have a guardian angel and it is not inside us which anyone getting saved from being hit by a car, and carried off to safety should know.... the soul creates through imagination and the spirit takes those thoughts and sets them in motion for the soul, and because it loves the soul it gives what ever it is to it. It doesn't second guess why the soul is focusing on bullshit, it figures that the soul will learn something from it. Just as god said the fallen angels would be at man's beck and call, what was actually meant was they would be at the souls beck and call to help us....They resented being put under a pair of clothes with a brain that could be influenced at any time by another daemon.... The soul(mother) at the same time while learning from them is teaching them and there by reclaiming angels.... There is method to the seemingly madness.... |
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Me114 
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User ID: 596184
7/5/2009 4:08 PM
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Everything happens for a reason, careful what you wish for! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 645485
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 703110
7/5/2009 4:11 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
If we pause a moment to consider causality, here's OP who seemingly by chance mentioned insect bites, a few days later is bitten/goes to hospital, and today comes on GLP and starts this thread.
Then, as mysteriously seemingly separated from each other as we are, our individual paths/accumulated interests come together and we post on OP's thread.
What a strange, yet pausible, coincidence of casualities. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 709467
7/5/2009 4:38 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
Four days ago I remarked to a co-worker that it was lucky I hadn't been stung by a bee, wasp, hornet, or yellow jacket in at least 20 years because I tend to have allergic reactions to being stung. I may have "jinxed " myself because yesterday I was stung by a wasp on my eyebrow, and ended up in the emergency room four 4 hours with severe swelling of my entire head and neck, hives, itching and redness from the waist up, and difficulty breathing. My condition was easily treated with oxygen and an allergic reaction cocktail of drugs, and I am fine; just the right side of my face is swollen now.
Does our reality include the ability to "progam" future events by talking about them, or merely focusing on them? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 694356
Exactly!
they believe in anything... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 630753
What an idiot... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 684982
7/5/2009 7:29 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
Everything happens for a reason, careful what you wish for! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 645485
I agree, there are no accidents in life however i think maybe how we choose to interpret our experiences should be open for closer examination, perhaps not so black and white or literal. I like your post OP. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 334323
7/5/2009 7:37 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
This one does. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704231
7/5/2009 7:42 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
Whatever you focus upon, you will create. This is done on an individual level, and a much larger, agreement reality level as a culture. The things you create most quickly are what have most emotion around them. You simply experienced a high level of manifestation in that moment. Everything is frequency becoming form. The people who focus on an incident as "isolated" are just foolish. Everything is connected. |
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MagiChristmas
Cher Ami -- When did Pigeons not= Doves?
User ID: 554973
7/5/2009 7:43 PM
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depends on the probability of such event to happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 691982
 
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Discern the TRUTH of the TimeTable of Doom described in the aforementioned links. The TToD is Based on April 6th aka The MOST Significant day - 4.6 magnitude precursor earthquake struck Italy on April 6th shortly after the Prophet spoke. Then the major earthquake event occurred shortly after general conference adjourned. Ref=lds.org
The swine flu epidemic also emerged on April 6th in Mexico.
The deception continues to crumble.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 582017
7/5/2009 7:44 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
No such thing as coincidence |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718513
7/5/2009 7:45 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
and this is pinned why??
because perhaps some semi-comatose mod has a nanosecond of lucidity?
pffff..... hypocrits |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 668934
7/5/2009 7:47 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
good post |
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MagiChristmas
Cher Ami -- When did Pigeons not= Doves?
User ID: 554973
7/5/2009 8:02 PM
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April 6 (Bloomberg) -- Energy Australia, the electricity distributor for Sydney, said it completed urgent repairs after Australia’s biggest city was yesterday hit by a second power outage in a week.
The transformer, a key part of the electricity network in the northern part of the business district in Sydney, was re- powered last night and normal services should return this morning, it said. Managers in 20 buildings have been asked to reduce non-essential electricity use in the city, including air conditioning, it said.
Saturday’s outage, which lasted about 75 minutes, closed the Sydney harbor tunnel and stranded people in lifts and buildings. Power to about 50,000 homes and businesses in the city was cut.
Last week, some 70,000 homes and businesses in the city lost power for almost two hours week after the failure of a 132,000-volt cable. Quoting: Lastone 718662
Another April 6th event,
per the TToD.
From a thread pinned a few hours ago.
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Last Edited by MagiChristmas on 7/5/2009 at 8:08 PM
TToD Links:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Tis True, Tis True, Second Degree Doom Doth Ensue precisely as prescribed several months prior.
Discern the TRUTH of the TimeTable of Doom described in the aforementioned links. The TToD is Based on April 6th aka The MOST Significant day - 4.6 magnitude precursor earthquake struck Italy on April 6th shortly after the Prophet spoke. Then the major earthquake event occurred shortly after general conference adjourned. Ref=lds.org
The swine flu epidemic also emerged on April 6th in Mexico.
The deception continues to crumble.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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LURKING
User ID: 656081
7/5/2009 8:02 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
The only effective way a conspiracy theory is eliminated... is when it become fact.
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Last Edited by LURKING on 7/5/2009 at 8:02 PM
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Segali
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User ID: 638578
7/5/2009 8:04 PM
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Coincidence is synchronicity, so yes, I believe in coincidence.
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The_Tauremini
User ID: 420172
7/5/2009 11:40 PM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
Could this be coincidence?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491785
7/6/2009 1:13 AM | | Re: Do conspiracy theorists believe in coincidence? | Quote |
Four days ago I remarked to a co-worker that it was lucky I hadn't been stung by a bee, wasp, hornet, or yellow jacket in at least 20 years because I tend to have allergic reactions to being stung. I may have "jinxed " myself because yesterday I was stung by a wasp on my eyebrow, and ended up in the emergency room four 4 hours with severe swelling of my entire head and neck, hives, itching and redness from the waist up, and difficulty breathing. My condition was easily treated with oxygen and an allergic reaction cocktail of drugs, and I am fine; just the right side of my face is swollen now.
Now to my point: most conspiracy theorists I talk to, and blogs I read suggest that there is no such thing as coincidence when it comes to TPTB, NWO, etc. Does our reality include the ability to "progam" future events by talking about them, or merely focusing on them? Should we all be more careful about what we pay attention to, and what comes out of our mouths? Or is it just a random coincidence that this minor event messed up my family's holiday? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 694356
its one of the oldest 'secrets' known. you become what you think about. you create your own reality. the law of attraction is one of the fundamental universal laws that we all live by every day, even if we don't realize it. most people experience the events taking place in their life and chock it up to 'circumstance' or 'co-incidence', and never quite see that everything that happens to them starts from within them.
on another note, 'TPTB, NWO', etc, are only as strong as we allow them to be. the sad thing is, most of the 'conspiracy' drivel that goes on on this wonderous invention we call the internet is actually lending itself to strengthening these power mongers and helping their sick fantasies of total control become reality. the emotion you put into a thought form, even if it is in the form of resistance to said thought form, helps that thought form manifest. you always get what you want. but you also always get what you don't want. |
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