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Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368803
United Kingdom
7/5/2009 5:25 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

Well, I'm still asking, any ideas on why tobacco specifically when, as all have noted here, there are many harmful things out there, if used incorrectly.
 Quoting: My Take 673609


I find it strange too although it seems aimed at the low income bracket. If you're rich and smoke it's no big deal. If you're poor and smoke well it takes a fearsome bite out of your income. In Cuba cigarettes are part of the ration process incidentally.

But let's take the development of swine flu from say factory farming and the potential cost globally of the pandemic we see coming. Why no laws against factory farming...the answer is THE LOBBY PROCESS and big businesses acquired ability to move such business to unregulated overseas locations.

Big tobacco companies have used their profits to move into other areas of operation and they are adept at the lobby technique. Just like the mafia moves into legitimate business on the back of its rackets. So my guess is they are trading loss of cigarette revenue for other business concessions. Not for your benefit but for theirs.
bubba
User ID: 704316
United States
7/5/2009 5:32 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

Thats why they cut cigs from Texas prisons:so the guards could have a new racket,smuggling cigs in instead of narcotics.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718906
United States
7/5/2009 5:33 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

ban meat, ban obesity, ban nuclear energy, ban everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 633364

Drinking too much water can kill you.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ban water NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 633364
Canada
7/5/2009 5:35 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

ban meat, ban obesity, ban nuclear energy, ban everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Drinking too much water can kill you.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ban water NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718906


all life has a guaranteed 100% mortality rate. ban all life NOW!!!!!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718906
United States
7/5/2009 5:38 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

all life has a guaranteed 100% mortality rate. ban all life NOW!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 633364

Let's start with the politicians.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 633364
Canada
7/5/2009 5:41 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

List of additives in cigarettes
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
This is the list of 599 additives in cigarettes submitted to the United States Department of Health and Human Services in April 1994. It applies, as documented, only to American manufactured cigarettes intended for distribution within the United States by the listed companies. The five major tobacco companies that reported the information were:

American Tobacco Company
Brown and Williamson
Liggett Group, Inc.
Philip Morris Inc.
R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company
One significant issue is that while all these chemical compounds have been approved as additives to food, they were not tested by burning. Burning changes the properties of chemicals. More than 4,000 chemical compounds are created by burning a cigarette.[1]


first. you are wehat you eat. second, so i guess cooking food doesn't change the chemical composition? i find that hard to believe. either way, your food has these yummy, wholesome, nutritious ADDITIVES


remember, these are IN YOUR FOOD TOO. I'll have a hamburger with.......................


A
Acetanisole
Acetic Acid
Acetoin
Acetophenone
6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
2-Acetyl-3-Ethylpyrazine
2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
Acetylpyrazine
2-Acetylpyridine
3-Acetylpyridine
2-Acetylthiazole
Aconitic Acid
dl-Alanine
Alfalfa Extract
Allspice Extract, Oleoresin, and Oil
Allyl Hexanoate
Allyl Ionone
Almond Bitter Oil
Ambergris Tincture
Ammonia
Ammonium Bicarbonate
Ammonium Hydroxide
Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
Ammonium sulfide
Amyl Alcohol
Amyl Butyrate
Amyl Formate
Amyl Octanoate
alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
Amyris Oil
trans-Anethole
Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
Anise
Anise Star, Extract and Oils
Anisyl Acetate
Anisyl Alcohol
Anisyl Formate
Anisyl Phenylacetate
Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
L-Arginine
Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
Ascorbic Acid
L-Asparagine Monohydrate
L-Aspartic Acid

[edit] B
Balsam Peru and Oil
Basil Oil
Bay leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
Beeswax White
Beet Juice Concentrate
Benzaldehyde
Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
Benzoic acid, Benzoin
Benzoin Resin
Benzophenone
Benzyl Alcohol
Benzyl Benzoate
Benzyl Butyrate
Benzyl Cinnamate
Benzyl Propionate
Benzyl salicylate
Bergamot Oil
Bisabolene
Black Currant Buds Absolute
Borneol
Bornyl Acetate
Buchu Leaf Oil
1,3-Butanediol
2,3-Butanedione
1-Butanol
2-Butanone
4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
Butyl acetate
Butyl butyrate
Butyl butyryl lactate
Butyl isovalerate
Butyl phenylacetate
Butyl ndecylenate
3-Butylidenephthalide
Butyric Acid

[edit] C
Cadinene
Caffeine
Calcium Carbonate
Camphene
Cananga Oil
Capsicum Oleoresin
Caramel color
Caraway Oil
Carbon Dioxide
Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
Carob Bean and Extract
beta-Carotene
Carrot Oil
Carvacrol
4-Carvomenthenol
L-Carvone
beta-Caryophyllene
beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
Cassia Bark Oil
Cassie Absolute and Oil
Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
Cedar Leaf Oil
Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
Cedrol
Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
Cellulose Fiber
Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
Chicory Extract
Chocolate
Cinnamaldehyde
Cinnamic Acid
Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
Cinnamyl Acetate
Cinnamyl Alcohol
Cinnamyl Cinnamate
Cinnamyl Isovalerate
Cinnamyl Propionate
Citral
Citric Acid
Citronella Oil
dl-Citronellol
Citronellyl Butyrate
Citronellyl Isobutyrate
Civet Absolute
Clary Oil
Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
Cocoa
Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
Coconut Oil
Coffee
Cognac White and Green Oil
Copaiba Oil
Coriander Extract and Oil
Corn Oil
Corn Silk
Costus Root Oil
Cubeb Oil
Cuminaldehyde
para-Cymene
L-Cysteine

[edit] D
Dandelion Root Solid Extract
Davana Oil
2-trans,4-trans-Decadienal
delta-Decalactone
gamma-Decalactone
Decanal
Decanoic Acid
1-Decanol
2-Decenal
Dehydromenthofurolactone
Diethyl Malonate
Diethyl Sebacate
2,3-Diethylpyrazine
Dihydro Anethole
5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine
Dill Seed Oil and Extract
meta-Dimethoxybenzene
para-Dimethoxybenzene
2,6-Dimethoxyphenol
Dimethyl Succinate
3,4-Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
3,5-Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene
4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-One
6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-2-One
3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid
2,4 Dimethylacetophenone
alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol
alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate
alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate
2,3-Dimethylpyrazine
2,5-Dimethylpyrazine
2,6-Dimethylpyrazine
Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone
delta-Dodecalactone
gamma-Dodecalactone

[edit] E
para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde
Ethyl 10-Undecenoate
Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate
Ethyl acetate
Ethyl acetoacetate
Ethyl alcohol
Ethyl benzoate
Ethyl butyrate
Ethyl cinnamate
Ethyl decanoate
Ethyl fenchol
Ethyl furoate
Ethyl heptanoate
Ethyl hexanoate
Ethyl isovalerate
Ethyl lactate
Ethyl laurate
Ethyl levulinate
Ethyl maltol
Ethyl methyl phenylglycidate
Ethyl myristate
Ethyl nonanoate
Ethyl octadecanoate
Ethyl octanoate
Ethyl oleate
Ethyl palmitate
Ethyl phenylacetate
Ethyl propionate
Ethyl salicylate
Ethyl trans-2-butenoate
Ethyl valerate
Ethyl vanillin
2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine
2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol,3-Ethyl-2-Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One
2-Ethyl-3,(5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine
5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone
2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine
4-Ethylbenzaldehyde
4-Ethylguaiacol
para-Ethylphenol
3-Ethylpyridine
Eucalyptol

[edit] F
Farnesol
D-Fenchone
Fennel Sweet Oil
Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute
Fig Juice Concentrate
Food Starch Modified
Furfuryl Mercaptan
4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One

[edit] G
Galbanum Oil
Genet Absolute
Gentian Root Extract
Geraniol
Geranium Rose Oil
Geranyl Acetate
Geranyl Butyrate
Geranyl Formate
Geranyl Isovalerate
Geranyl Phenylacetate
Ginger Oil and Oleoresin
L-Glutamic Acid
L-Glutamine
Glycerol
Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated
Grape Juice Concentrate
Guaiac Wood Oil
Guaiacol
Guar Gum

[edit] H
2,4-Heptadienal
gamma-Heptalactone
Heptanoic Acid
2-Heptanone
3-Hepten-2-One
2-Hepten-4-One
4-Heptenal
trans-2-Heptenal
Heptyl acetate
omega-6-Hexadecenlactone
gamma-Hexalactone
Hexanal
Hexanoic acid
2-Hexen-1-Ol
3-Hexen-1-Ol
cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate
2-Hexenal
3-Hexenoic Acid
trans-2-Hexenoic Acid
cis-3-Hexenyl Formate
Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate
Hexyl Acetate
Hexyl Alcohol
Hexyl Phenylacetate
L-Histidine
Honey
Hops Oil
Hydrolyzed Milk Solids
Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins
5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta- Lactone
4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone
2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone
2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde
4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone
Hydroxycitronellal
6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane
4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
Hyssop Oil

[edit] I
Immortelle Absolute and Extract
alpha-Ionone
beta-Ionone
alpha-Irone
Isoamyl Acetate
Isoamyl Benzoate
Isoamyl Butyrate
Isoamyl Cinnamate
Isoamyl Formate, Isoamyl Hexanoate
Isoamyl Isovalerate
Isoamyl Octanoate
Isoamyl Phenylacetate
Isobornyl Acetate
Isobutyl Acetate
Isobutyl Alcohol
Isobutyl Cinnamate
Isobutyl Phenylacetate
Isobutyl Salicylate
2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine
alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol
Isobutyraldehyde
Isobutyric Acid
d,l-Isoleucine
alpha-Isomethylionone
2-Isopropylphenol
Isovaleric Acid

[edit] J
Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil

[edit] K
Kola Nut Extract

[edit] L
Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin
Lactic Acid
Lauric Acid
Lauric Aldehyde
Lavandin Oil
Lavender oil
Lemon Oil and Extract
Lemongrass Oil
L-Leucine
Levulinic acid
Liquorice root, Fluid, Extract and Powder
Lime Oil
Linalool
Linalool Oxide
Linalyl Acetate
Linden Flowers
Lovage Oil And Extract
L-Lysine

[edit] M
Mace Powder, Extract and Oil
Magnesium Carbonate
Malic Acid
Malt and Malt Extract
Maltodextrin
Maltol
Maltyl Isobutyrate
Mandarin Oil
Maple Syrup and Concentrate
Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil
para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One
Menthol
Menthone
Menthyl Acetate
dl-Methionine
Methoprene
2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol
2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol
para-Methoxybenzaldehyde
1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One
4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone
Methoxypyrazine
Methyl 2-Furoate
Methyl 2-Octynoate
Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone
Methyl Anisate
Methyl anthranilate
Methyl Benzoate
Methyl Cinnamate
Methyl Dihydrojasmonate
Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated
Methyl Isovalerate
Methyl Linoleate (48%)
Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture
Methyl Naphthyl Ketone
Methyl Nicotinate
Methyl phenylacetate
Methyl Salicylate
Methyl Sulfide
3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone
4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone
5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal
5-Methyl-2-Thiophenecarboxaldehyde
6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One
2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde
5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One
1-Methyl-3-Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene
4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One
2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde
6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One
4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol
4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole
Methyl-alpha-Ionone
Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid
4-Methylacetophenone
para-Methylanisole
alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate
alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol
2-Methylbutyraldehyde
3-Methylbutyraldehyde
2-Methylbutyric Acid
alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde
Methylcyclopentenolone
2-Methylheptanoic Acid
2-Methylhexanoic Acid
3-Methylpentanoic Acid
4-Methylpentanoic Acid
2-Methylpyrazine
5-Methylquinoxaline
2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One
(Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers)
3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde
Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate
2-Methylvaleric Acid
Mimosa Absolute and Extract
Molasses Extract and Tincture
Mountain Maple Solid Extract
Mullein Flowers
Myristaldehyde
Myristic Acid
Myrrh Oil

[edit] N
beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
Nerol
Neroli Bigarde Oil
Nerolidol
Nona-2-trans,6-cis-dienal
2,6-Nonadien-1-ol
gamma-Nonalactone
Nonanal
Nonanoic Acid
Nonanone
trans-2-Nonen-1-ol
2-Nonenal
Nonyl Acetate
Nutmeg Powder and Oil

[edit] O
Oak chips extract and oil
Oakmoss absolute
9,12-Octadecadienoic acid (48%) and 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic acid (52%)
delta-Octalactone
gamma-Octalactone
Octanal
Octanoic acid
1-Octanol
2-Octanone
3-Octen-2-one
1-Octen-3-ol
1-Octen-3-yl acetate
2-Octenal
Octyl isobutyrate
Oleic acid
Olibanum oil
Opoponax oil and gum
Orange blossom water, absolute, and leaf absolute
Orange oil and extract
Origanum oil
Orris concrete oil and root extract

[edit] P
Palmarosa Oil
Palmitic Acid
Parsley Seed Oil
Patchouli Oil
omega-Pentadecalactone
2,3-Pentanedione
2-Pentanone
4-Pentenoic Acid
2-Pentylpyridine
Pepper Oil, Black And White
Peppermint Oil
Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil
alpha-Phellandrene
2-Phenenthyl Acetate
Phenethyl alcohol
Phenethyl Butyrate
Phenethyl Cinnamate
Phenethyl Isobutyrate
Phenethyl Isovalerate
Phenethyl Phenylacetate
Phenethyl Salicylate
1-Phenyl-1-Propanol
3-Phenyl-1-Propanol
2-Phenyl-2-Butenal
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One
Phenylacetaldehyde
Phenylacetic Acid
L-Phenylalanine
3-Phenylpropionaldehyde
3-Phenylpropionic Acid
3-Phenylpropyl Acetate
3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate
2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran
Phosphoric Acid
Pimenta Leaf Oil
Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
Pineapple Juice Concentrate
alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene
D-Piperitone
Piperonal
Pipsissewa Leaf Extract
Plum Juice
Potassium Sorbate
L-Proline
Propenylguaethol
Propionic Acid
Propyl Acetate
Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate
Propylene Glycol
3-Propylidenephthalide
Prune Juice and Concentrate
Pyridine
Pyroligneous Acid And Extract
Pyrrole
Pyruvic Acid

[edit] R
Raisin Juice Concentrate
Rhodinol
Rose Absolute and Oil
Rosemary Oil
Rum
Rum Ether
Rye Extract

[edit] S
Sage, Sage oil, and Sage oleoresin
Salicylaldehyde
Sandalwood oil, yellow
Sclareolide
Skatole
Smoke flavor
Snakeroot oil
Sodium acetate
Sodium benzoate
Sodium bicarbonate
Sodium carbonate
Sodium chloride
Sodium citrate
Sodium hydroxide
Solanone
Spearmint oil
Styrax extract, gum and oil
Sucrose octaacetate
Sugar alcohols
Sugars

[edit] T
Tagetes Oil
Tannic Acid
Tartaric Acid
Tea Leaf and Absolute
alpha-Terpineol
Terpinolene
Terpinyl Acetate
5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline
1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane
2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone
2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine
Thiamine Hydrochloride
Thiazole
L-Threonine
Thyme Oil, White and Red
Thymol
Tobacco Extracts
Tocopherols (mixed)
Tolu balsam Gum and Extract
Tolualdehydes
para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate
para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde
para-Tolyl Acetate
para-Tolyl Isobutyrate
para-Tolyl Phenylacetate
Triacetin
2-Tridecanone
2-Tridecenal
Triethyl Citrate
3,5,5-Trimethyl-1-Hexanol
para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol
4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)But-2-En-4-One
2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-1,4-Dione
2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl Methan
4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One
2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone
2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine
L-Tyrosine

[edit] U
delta-Undercalactone
gamma-Undecalactone
Undecanal
2-Undecanone,1
0-Undecenal
Urea

[edit] V
Valencene
Valeraldehyde
Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder
Valeric Acid
gamma-Valerolactone
Valine
Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
Vanillin
Veratraldehyde
Vetiver Oil
Vinegar
Violet Leaf Absolute

[edit] W
Walnut Hull Extract
Water
Wheat Extract And Flour
Wild Cherry Bark Extract
Wine and Wine Cherry

[edit] X
Xanthan Gum
3,4-Xylenol

[edit] Y
Yeast
Crazy Frog Subscriber
User ID: 682968
United States
7/5/2009 6:33 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

20 Australian Dollars = 15.8994 USD
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 334323
United States
7/5/2009 7:06 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

NEVER let them legalize pot.Decriminalize,yes.Hemp,yes.But NEVER support legalization.
 Quoting: bubba 704316

The only way They will legalize pot is with a strong leash on the product. Of course that's all we need is more smoke in the world. Why are so many people afraid of being clean and clear?
Dusky Hades
User ID: 717320
United States
7/5/2009 7:15 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

:notendwell:
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


OMG!!! The guy in the beds boyfriend is about to catch him experimenting with that fish!!! OH NO!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 536247
United States
7/5/2009 7:19 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

We are going to take those cancer-sticks away from you and you are going to just have to deal with it! Why not have a carrot instead? hf

Don't piss us off or we will make laws that say you have to smoke in the sewer. 4
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 153788
United States
7/5/2009 7:20 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

I don't care if it goes up to $50 a pack. I'll pay it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 714996



They just become more luxurious.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718960
United States
7/5/2009 7:22 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

Good...raise the prices higher on those cancer stick and stop trying to rationalize your ugly habit of smoking... s226
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 153788
United States
7/5/2009 7:23 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

List of additives in cigarettes
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
This is the list of 599 additives in cigarettes submitted to the United States Department of Health and Human Services in April 1994. It applies, as documented, only to American manufactured cigarettes intended for distribution within the United States by the listed companies. The five major tobacco companies that reported the information were:

American Tobacco Company
Brown and Williamson
Liggett Group, Inc.
Philip Morris Inc.
R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company
One significant issue is that while all these chemical compounds have been approved as additives to food, they were not tested by burning. Burning changes the properties of chemicals. More than 4,000 chemical compounds are created by burning a cigarette.[1]


first. you are wehat you eat. second, so i guess cooking food doesn't change the chemical composition? i find that hard to believe. either way, your food has these yummy, wholesome, nutritious ADDITIVES


remember, these are IN YOUR FOOD TOO. I'll have a hamburger with.......................


A
Acetanisole
Acetic Acid
Acetoin
Acetophenone
6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
2-Acetyl-3-Ethylpyrazine
2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
Acetylpyrazine
2-Acetylpyridine
3-Acetylpyridine
2-Acetylthiazole
Aconitic Acid
dl-Alanine
Alfalfa Extract
Allspice Extract, Oleoresin, and Oil
Allyl Hexanoate
Allyl Ionone
Almond Bitter Oil
Ambergris Tincture
Ammonia
Ammonium Bicarbonate
Ammonium Hydroxide
Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
Ammonium sulfide
Amyl Alcohol
Amyl Butyrate
Amyl Formate
Amyl Octanoate
alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
Amyris Oil
trans-Anethole
Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
Anise
Anise Star, Extract and Oils
Anisyl Acetate
Anisyl Alcohol
Anisyl Formate
Anisyl Phenylacetate
Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
L-Arginine
Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
Ascorbic Acid
L-Asparagine Monohydrate
L-Aspartic Acid

[edit] B
Balsam Peru and Oil
Basil Oil
Bay leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
Beeswax White
Beet Juice Concentrate
Benzaldehyde
Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
Benzoic acid, Benzoin
Benzoin Resin
Benzophenone
Benzyl Alcohol
Benzyl Benzoate
Benzyl Butyrate
Benzyl Cinnamate
Benzyl Propionate
Benzyl salicylate
Bergamot Oil
Bisabolene
Black Currant Buds Absolute
Borneol
Bornyl Acetate
Buchu Leaf Oil
1,3-Butanediol
2,3-Butanedione
1-Butanol
2-Butanone
4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
Butyl acetate
Butyl butyrate
Butyl butyryl lactate
Butyl isovalerate
Butyl phenylacetate
Butyl ndecylenate
3-Butylidenephthalide
Butyric Acid

[edit] C
Cadinene
Caffeine
Calcium Carbonate
Camphene
Cananga Oil
Capsicum Oleoresin
Caramel color
Caraway Oil
Carbon Dioxide
Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
Carob Bean and Extract
beta-Carotene
Carrot Oil
Carvacrol
4-Carvomenthenol
L-Carvone
beta-Caryophyllene
beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
Cassia Bark Oil
Cassie Absolute and Oil
Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
Cedar Leaf Oil
Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
Cedrol
Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
Cellulose Fiber
Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
Chicory Extract
Chocolate
Cinnamaldehyde
Cinnamic Acid
Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
Cinnamyl Acetate
Cinnamyl Alcohol
Cinnamyl Cinnamate
Cinnamyl Isovalerate
Cinnamyl Propionate
Citral
Citric Acid
Citronella Oil
dl-Citronellol
Citronellyl Butyrate
Citronellyl Isobutyrate
Civet Absolute
Clary Oil
Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
Cocoa
Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
Coconut Oil
Coffee
Cognac White and Green Oil
Copaiba Oil
Coriander Extract and Oil
Corn Oil
Corn Silk
Costus Root Oil
Cubeb Oil
Cuminaldehyde
para-Cymene
L-Cysteine

[edit] D
Dandelion Root Solid Extract
Davana Oil
2-trans,4-trans-Decadienal
delta-Decalactone
gamma-Decalactone
Decanal
Decanoic Acid
1-Decanol
2-Decenal
Dehydromenthofurolactone
Diethyl Malonate
Diethyl Sebacate
2,3-Diethylpyrazine
Dihydro Anethole
5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine
Dill Seed Oil and Extract
meta-Dimethoxybenzene
para-Dimethoxybenzene
2,6-Dimethoxyphenol
Dimethyl Succinate
3,4-Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
3,5-Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene
4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-One
6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-2-One
3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid
2,4 Dimethylacetophenone
alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol
alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate
alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate
2,3-Dimethylpyrazine
2,5-Dimethylpyrazine
2,6-Dimethylpyrazine
Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone
delta-Dodecalactone
gamma-Dodecalactone

[edit] E
para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde
Ethyl 10-Undecenoate
Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate
Ethyl acetate
Ethyl acetoacetate
Ethyl alcohol
Ethyl benzoate
Ethyl butyrate
Ethyl cinnamate
Ethyl decanoate
Ethyl fenchol
Ethyl furoate
Ethyl heptanoate
Ethyl hexanoate
Ethyl isovalerate
Ethyl lactate
Ethyl laurate
Ethyl levulinate
Ethyl maltol
Ethyl methyl phenylglycidate
Ethyl myristate
Ethyl nonanoate
Ethyl octadecanoate
Ethyl octanoate
Ethyl oleate
Ethyl palmitate
Ethyl phenylacetate
Ethyl propionate
Ethyl salicylate
Ethyl trans-2-butenoate
Ethyl valerate
Ethyl vanillin
2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine
2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol,3-Ethyl-2-Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One
2-Ethyl-3,(5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine
5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone
2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine
4-Ethylbenzaldehyde
4-Ethylguaiacol
para-Ethylphenol
3-Ethylpyridine
Eucalyptol

[edit] F
Farnesol
D-Fenchone
Fennel Sweet Oil
Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute
Fig Juice Concentrate
Food Starch Modified
Furfuryl Mercaptan
4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One

[edit] G
Galbanum Oil
Genet Absolute
Gentian Root Extract
Geraniol
Geranium Rose Oil
Geranyl Acetate
Geranyl Butyrate
Geranyl Formate
Geranyl Isovalerate
Geranyl Phenylacetate
Ginger Oil and Oleoresin
L-Glutamic Acid
L-Glutamine
Glycerol
Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated
Grape Juice Concentrate
Guaiac Wood Oil
Guaiacol
Guar Gum

[edit] H
2,4-Heptadienal
gamma-Heptalactone
Heptanoic Acid
2-Heptanone
3-Hepten-2-One
2-Hepten-4-One
4-Heptenal
trans-2-Heptenal
Heptyl acetate
omega-6-Hexadecenlactone
gamma-Hexalactone
Hexanal
Hexanoic acid
2-Hexen-1-Ol
3-Hexen-1-Ol
cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate
2-Hexenal
3-Hexenoic Acid
trans-2-Hexenoic Acid
cis-3-Hexenyl Formate
Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate
Hexyl Acetate
Hexyl Alcohol
Hexyl Phenylacetate
L-Histidine
Honey
Hops Oil
Hydrolyzed Milk Solids
Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins
5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta- Lactone
4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone
2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone
2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde
4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone
Hydroxycitronellal
6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane
4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
Hyssop Oil

[edit] I
Immortelle Absolute and Extract
alpha-Ionone
beta-Ionone
alpha-Irone
Isoamyl Acetate
Isoamyl Benzoate
Isoamyl Butyrate
Isoamyl Cinnamate
Isoamyl Formate, Isoamyl Hexanoate
Isoamyl Isovalerate
Isoamyl Octanoate
Isoamyl Phenylacetate
Isobornyl Acetate
Isobutyl Acetate
Isobutyl Alcohol
Isobutyl Cinnamate
Isobutyl Phenylacetate
Isobutyl Salicylate
2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine
alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol
Isobutyraldehyde
Isobutyric Acid
d,l-Isoleucine
alpha-Isomethylionone
2-Isopropylphenol
Isovaleric Acid

[edit] J
Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil

[edit] K
Kola Nut Extract

[edit] L
Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin
Lactic Acid
Lauric Acid
Lauric Aldehyde
Lavandin Oil
Lavender oil
Lemon Oil and Extract
Lemongrass Oil
L-Leucine
Levulinic acid
Liquorice root, Fluid, Extract and Powder
Lime Oil
Linalool
Linalool Oxide
Linalyl Acetate
Linden Flowers
Lovage Oil And Extract
L-Lysine

[edit] M
Mace Powder, Extract and Oil
Magnesium Carbonate
Malic Acid
Malt and Malt Extract
Maltodextrin
Maltol
Maltyl Isobutyrate
Mandarin Oil
Maple Syrup and Concentrate
Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil
para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One
Menthol
Menthone
Menthyl Acetate
dl-Methionine
Methoprene
2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol
2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol
para-Methoxybenzaldehyde
1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One
4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone
Methoxypyrazine
Methyl 2-Furoate
Methyl 2-Octynoate
Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone
Methyl Anisate
Methyl anthranilate
Methyl Benzoate
Methyl Cinnamate
Methyl Dihydrojasmonate
Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated
Methyl Isovalerate
Methyl Linoleate (48%)
Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture
Methyl Naphthyl Ketone
Methyl Nicotinate
Methyl phenylacetate
Methyl Salicylate
Methyl Sulfide
3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone
4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone
5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal
5-Methyl-2-Thiophenecarboxaldehyde
6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One
2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde
5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One
1-Methyl-3-Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene
4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One
2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde
6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One
4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol
4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole
Methyl-alpha-Ionone
Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid
4-Methylacetophenone
para-Methylanisole
alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate
alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol
2-Methylbutyraldehyde
3-Methylbutyraldehyde
2-Methylbutyric Acid
alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde
Methylcyclopentenolone
2-Methylheptanoic Acid
2-Methylhexanoic Acid
3-Methylpentanoic Acid
4-Methylpentanoic Acid
2-Methylpyrazine
5-Methylquinoxaline
2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One
(Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers)
3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde
Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate
2-Methylvaleric Acid
Mimosa Absolute and Extract
Molasses Extract and Tincture
Mountain Maple Solid Extract
Mullein Flowers
Myristaldehyde
Myristic Acid
Myrrh Oil

[edit] N
beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
Nerol
Neroli Bigarde Oil
Nerolidol
Nona-2-trans,6-cis-dienal
2,6-Nonadien-1-ol
gamma-Nonalactone
Nonanal
Nonanoic Acid
Nonanone
trans-2-Nonen-1-ol
2-Nonenal
Nonyl Acetate
Nutmeg Powder and Oil

[edit] O
Oak chips extract and oil
Oakmoss absolute
9,12-Octadecadienoic acid (48%) and 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic acid (52%)
delta-Octalactone
gamma-Octalactone
Octanal
Octanoic acid
1-Octanol
2-Octanone
3-Octen-2-one
1-Octen-3-ol
1-Octen-3-yl acetate
2-Octenal
Octyl isobutyrate
Oleic acid
Olibanum oil
Opoponax oil and gum
Orange blossom water, absolute, and leaf absolute
Orange oil and extract
Origanum oil
Orris concrete oil and root extract

[edit] P
Palmarosa Oil
Palmitic Acid
Parsley Seed Oil
Patchouli Oil
omega-Pentadecalactone
2,3-Pentanedione
2-Pentanone
4-Pentenoic Acid
2-Pentylpyridine
Pepper Oil, Black And White
Peppermint Oil
Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil
alpha-Phellandrene
2-Phenenthyl Acetate
Phenethyl alcohol
Phenethyl Butyrate
Phenethyl Cinnamate
Phenethyl Isobutyrate
Phenethyl Isovalerate
Phenethyl Phenylacetate
Phenethyl Salicylate
1-Phenyl-1-Propanol
3-Phenyl-1-Propanol
2-Phenyl-2-Butenal
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One
Phenylacetaldehyde
Phenylacetic Acid
L-Phenylalanine
3-Phenylpropionaldehyde
3-Phenylpropionic Acid
3-Phenylpropyl Acetate
3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate
2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran
Phosphoric Acid
Pimenta Leaf Oil
Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
Pineapple Juice Concentrate
alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene
D-Piperitone
Piperonal
Pipsissewa Leaf Extract
Plum Juice
Potassium Sorbate
L-Proline
Propenylguaethol
Propionic Acid
Propyl Acetate
Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate
Propylene Glycol
3-Propylidenephthalide
Prune Juice and Concentrate
Pyridine
Pyroligneous Acid And Extract
Pyrrole
Pyruvic Acid

[edit] R
Raisin Juice Concentrate
Rhodinol
Rose Absolute and Oil
Rosemary Oil
Rum
Rum Ether
Rye Extract

[edit] S
Sage, Sage oil, and Sage oleoresin
Salicylaldehyde
Sandalwood oil, yellow
Sclareolide
Skatole
Smoke flavor
Snakeroot oil
Sodium acetate
Sodium benzoate
Sodium bicarbonate
Sodium carbonate
Sodium chloride
Sodium citrate
Sodium hydroxide
Solanone
Spearmint oil
Styrax extract, gum and oil
Sucrose octaacetate
Sugar alcohols
Sugars

[edit] T
Tagetes Oil
Tannic Acid
Tartaric Acid
Tea Leaf and Absolute
alpha-Terpineol
Terpinolene
Terpinyl Acetate
5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline
1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane
2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone
2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine
Thiamine Hydrochloride
Thiazole
L-Threonine
Thyme Oil, White and Red
Thymol
Tobacco Extracts
Tocopherols (mixed)
Tolu balsam Gum and Extract
Tolualdehydes
para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate
para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde
para-Tolyl Acetate
para-Tolyl Isobutyrate
para-Tolyl Phenylacetate
Triacetin
2-Tridecanone
2-Tridecenal
Triethyl Citrate
3,5,5-Trimethyl-1-Hexanol
para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol
4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)But-2-En-4-One
2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-1,4-Dione
2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl Methan
4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One
2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone
2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine
L-Tyrosine

[edit] U
delta-Undercalactone
gamma-Undecalactone
Undecanal
2-Undecanone,1
0-Undecenal
Urea

[edit] V
Valencene
Valeraldehyde
Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder
Valeric Acid
gamma-Valerolactone
Valine
Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
Vanillin
Veratraldehyde
Vetiver Oil
Vinegar
Violet Leaf Absolute

[edit] W
Walnut Hull Extract
Water
Wheat Extract And Flour
Wild Cherry Bark Extract
Wine and Wine Cherry

[edit] X
Xanthan Gum
3,4-Xylenol

[edit] Y
Yeast
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 633364



No wonder they're so good!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718754
United States
7/5/2009 7:27 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

Either they have to ban the shit, or they should do nothing. Taxing siggs will only make people poor. Don't even think for a second that the price matters for the addict.
 Quoting: Yo-Weh 707948


Tax them enough and it will create a black market and crime just like with the other illegal drugs.
My Take
User ID: 673609
United States
7/5/2009 7:27 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

Well, I'm still asking, any ideas on why tobacco specifically when, as all have noted here, there are many harmful things out there, if used incorrectly.


I find it strange too although it seems aimed at the low income bracket. If you're rich and smoke it's no big deal. If you're poor and smoke well it takes a fearsome bite out of your income. In Cuba cigarettes are part of the ration process incidentally.

But let's take the development of swine flu from say factory farming and the potential cost globally of the pandemic we see coming. Why no laws against factory farming...the answer is THE LOBBY PROCESS and big businesses acquired ability to move such business to unregulated overseas locations.

Big tobacco companies have used their profits to move into other areas of operation and they are adept at the lobby technique. Just like the mafia moves into legitimate business on the back of its rackets. So my guess is they are trading loss of cigarette revenue for other business concessions. Not for your benefit but for theirs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368803

Thanks for your response, AC.

Well, certainly most legislation is for more than the public's well-being. My observation. Later, when the history of any particular movement comes, out we find out we were given false reasons or that someone stood to benefit from it.

Seems we should have a pretty healthy populace by now with all the lip-service given to health in the States.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718754
United States
7/5/2009 7:28 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

all life has a guaranteed 100% mortality rate. ban all life NOW!!!!!!!

Let's start with the politicians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718906


Life is a sexually transmitted terminal disease.
Normal Is Subjective
User ID: 718654
Canada
7/5/2009 7:29 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

Cigrets are going bye-bye. 5a

After working in the cancer ward for awhile, I can't say I'm sorry to see them go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536247


We'll still have a cancer industry with or without smokes.
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 642285
United States
7/5/2009 7:34 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

They REALLY don't want their citizens smoking down under, do they?

Did you ever hear the old vaudevillian, Miss Mae West and her now infamous line about smoking? The story goes...

A very plain looking little cigarette girl walked up to Miss West in a night club and said to her:

"Goodness, Miss West! What LOVELY Diamonds!"

To which Miss West replied: "Honey, Goodness had NOTHING to do with my getting these diamonds. . . nothing at all!"

And then the little cigarette girl turns back to Miss West and she said:

"Confidentially, Miss West - just between us girls - I was wondering if you smoke after sex?"

Miss West, being the bawdy old gal she was, bent forward slightly in her skin-tight sequined long evening gown, and she then carefully parted her floor length sable coat and she started intently at her private parts for several moments... and then she said

"Honey, I don't know! I never looked!"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 536247
United States
7/5/2009 7:35 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

Think about all the other diseases besides cancer that would be hugely reduced by the banning of cigrets!

Not to mention the smell, the litter and the general unsightliness of them. Ban them now! Free your lungs!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718754
United States
7/5/2009 7:57 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

Think about all the other diseases besides cancer that would be hugely reduced by the banning of cigrets!

Not to mention the smell, the litter and the general unsightliness of them. Ban them now! Free your lungs!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536247


Freedom- like I keep saying, most people can't handle it.
LemuriaInTheSea
User ID: 541057
United States
7/5/2009 8:28 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

What's up with the recent governmental campaigns worldwide to end smoking.

This can't be good.
 Quoting: East 718240

The Government wants our money. They want to squeeze every penny they can out of regular citizens.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 661844
Australia
7/5/2009 8:29 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

In Cuba cigarettes are part of the ration process incidentally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368803

because it's a stimulant like coffee.

people abuse it and drink too much coffee have liver problems.
or smoke too much have lung and pancreas problems.

I really enjoy some nice tabbacco in the evenings.
Just one or 2 cigarettes a day.

And another thing, the article only said "MAY" go to $20 AUD.
A regular 25 pack is just under $12 AUD or $9.50 USD.

If it does eventually go up, it won't be any more that $15.
They always say they're going to raise it, there is an outcry then they raise it but not as much... but from then on there it never drops in price.

Just like oil.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 661844
Australia
7/5/2009 8:32 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

I ment it never drops back down to it's original price.

;)

Oil will go down a few cents and you'll think hey that's great!
But you've already been raped and are paying double the price of 12 months ago.
II-Neutron
User ID: 705175
Canada
7/5/2009 8:35 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

Is it not funny the "black market" continues to grow...what's wrong here people.......?????????????

It's government's job to create as many criminals as possible.
 Quoting: Evil Twin


Man you said it.
ii.neutron@gmail.com
By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Hebrews: 11
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 719011
United States
7/5/2009 8:44 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

Is it not funny the "black market" continues to grow...what's wrong here people.......?????????????

It's government's job to create as many criminals as possible.


RIGHT ON!!!!....BLESS YOU...!!!!
 Quoting: JJackF108


Yeah...until they make it illegal to grow. If it wasn't for the tax money they get now, it would already be illegal. No way in hell with they loose the tax money and allow it to be legal.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716059
United States
7/5/2009 9:14 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

Time to quit.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 433811
New Zealand
7/5/2009 9:29 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

all life has a guaranteed 100% mortality rate. ban all life NOW!!!!!!!

Let's start with the politicians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718906

Politicians are alive?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 633364
Canada
7/5/2009 9:58 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

all life has a guaranteed 100% mortality rate. ban all life NOW!!!!!!!

Let's start with the politicians.

Politicians are alive?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 433811



zombies
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 633364
Canada
7/5/2009 10:52 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

hahahja, yeah right. i'll post the rebuttal to this propaganda in moments


Smokers support cigarette price hikeYuko Narushima
July 6, 2009 - 3:21AM .
Smokers support increased prices for cigarettes when the money is used to stop more people from taking up the habit, the Public Health Association of Australia says.

The anti-smoking group backs a proposal before the Federal Government to raise the excise tax on cigarettes, which could lift the price on a pack of 30 cigarettes above $20.

"Tobacco tax is the single most effective way of reducing smoking," the association's president Mike Daub said.

The second was public education, he said.

Yesterday, the Government hinted support for such measures, reiterating the "significant" social, health and community costs of tobacco abuse.

"The National Preventative Health Taskforce has targeted tobacco as a priority, and its report will assist the Australian Government to reduce smoking rates," a spokeswoman for Nicola Roxon said.

But the plan was met with cynicism by the Coalition.

The Coalition spokesman for health, Peter Dutton, said the tax hike was a revenue raising exercise similar to the tax increase on alcopops.

"It's nothing to do with health outcomes, it's all to do with them trying to balance an out-of-control budget," he said.

The Federal Government rejected the Coalition's proposal to increase the cigarette excise in May.

The increased revenue was presented as a way to alleviate the health burden created by the crush of people abandoning the private system.

Yesterday, Mr Dutton said the Government was using the taskforce's report as a smokescreen for a policy about-face and had to come clean.

"Don't try and dress all of these issues up as health issues, when really they are just about the Rudd Government trying to grab money," he said.

The Preventative Health Taskforce also recommended plainer packaging for cigarettes to dull their appeal.

That measure was opposed by tobacco companies, which said moves to stamp out advertising violated competition principles.

But Professor Daube said the industry's opposition was a signal the measures would work to reduce smoking.

The Government would analyse the report's findings and respond in due time, Ms Roxon's spokeswoman said.

Source: theage.com.au

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 633364
Canada
7/5/2009 10:57 PM
Re: Holy shit if you live in Australia you will pay $20 for a pack of smokes!!Quote

rebuttal to above story

sure, sure smokers like nothing better than paying exorbitant prices.


Contraband cigarettes becoming a national norm
Paul McLaughlin
Toronto

No question, I was slightly nervous. After all, I was about to commit a criminal act. "Got any cheap smokes?" I asked a scruffy guy sitting in a grungy coffee shop on Toronto's Queen Street. I approached him after watching him brazenly counting a large wad of cash in a place that seemed filled with lost and desperate souls.

"How much do you want," he asked, nonchalantly.

"One pack."



Figure. Plastic baggies of 200 cigarettes, often without health warnings, can be purchased in most major cities for as little as $8-$10. Photo by: CMAJ



"Three bucks," he said, a bit more than a third of what a pack of 20 cigarettes would have cost me in a store. He fished the untaxed contraband out of an inside pocket in his dirty raincoat.

The entire brief transaction was conducted in plain view of the coffee shop staff and about 20 customers. Neither the buyer nor I made any effort to camouflage what we were doing.

Called DK's, the cellophane-wrapped red package had "Manufactured by King Enterprises, LLC Akwesasne Mohawk Territory" embossed on one side and a health warning from the US Surgeon General on the other.

King Enterprises, located on the US side of the Akwesasne Reserve (which straddles Ontario, Quebec and New York state), is licensed by the St. Regis Mohawk Tribal Council to sell cigarettes in the US domestic market only. Its license specifically states "exclusive of Canada."

Although cheaper than a latte at Starbucks, my deal was no bargain compared with the one Cynthia Callard, the executive director of Physicians for a Smoke-Free Canada, obtained on a recent trip to the Tyendinaga Reserve, near Belleville, Ont. "We bought 200 cigarettes [the equivalent of 10 small packages], in a plastic baggie, for $8, as opposed to about $80 in a store."

It's clearly become extremely easy to buy contraband tobacco on the streets of Canada's major cities. The coffee shop where I shopped was just 4 blocks from the Eaton Centre, in an area known for drugs and prostitution. I was directed to the dealer by way of a simple inquiry on the street.

There's also no doubt it's become a nation-wide phenomenon. RCMP customs and excise unit Sargeant Jim Power says contraband tobacco sales have surged in Newfoundland and Labrador. In November 2005, an extensive police operation dismantled a sizable cigarette contraband ring operating mainly in Quebec and Western Canada. Large quantities of tobacco and manufacturing equipment were seized during 80 raids that took place in Vancouver, Calgary, Hamilton, Sherbrooke, Trois-Rivières and Montréal. A 2006 study by Imperial Tobacco — Tobacco Product Illicit Trade Phenomena — found that approximately 1 in 4 cigarettes smoked in Ontario and Quebec were illegal.

In late April (at press deadline), a coalition of 70 organizations launched a campaign to convince various levels of government to implement a crackdown on contraband tobacco, including stiff measures designed to curb the production and sale of cheap cigarettes on native reserves (see page 1569).

Inexpensive cigarettes can be readily obtained by all and sundry on First Nations' territory, although, lawfully, only residents of the reserve and status Indians are entitled to purchase them. Occasionally, cigarettes available on reserves are professionally packaged and contain standard health warnings. But usually they come in clear plastic bags.

"Since 2001, we have seen a 1700% increase in the number of tobacco products the RCMP has seized," says Superintendent Joe Oliver, director of the RCMP's customs and excise program, who's been investigating smuggling since the early 90s. "In 2001, we seized around 29000 cartons. Last year, we seized 502000."

Although law enforcement agencies are primarily concerned about tobacco smuggling from a criminal perspective, particularly the involvement of organized crime, they're also concerned about the potential health impacts from access to inexpensive cigarettes, says Power.

Yet, whether contraband cigarettes might be more dangerous, because of the potential inclusion of unknown substances (Box 1), is almost a non sequitur to the experts. Smoking any kind of cigarettes, contraband or otherwise, is hazardous, Callard says.




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