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** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18

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My monthly kilowatt usage was 2750 last month

They put this new meter on my house tuesday and so far it says I've used 900 kilowatt hours!

It's been less than a week!

That means I'm gonna be DOUBLE the usage I was on the old meter

This is total bullshit

I have to get over to full solar ASAP

Last Edited by ^TrInItY^ on 7/9/2009 at 10:28 PM
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
Anonymous Coward
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7/5/2009 3:58 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

I think they add on whatever your usage was when they installed it. So its 90 from whenver your last billing cycle was
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7/5/2009 3:59 PM
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I think they add on whatever your usage was when they installed it. So its 90 from whenver your last billing cycle was
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688827



no it's 900

and it's started at zero

I checked when they put it on

they came out and read the old meter the day before
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
Anonymous Coward
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7/5/2009 4:00 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

they are trying to screw you Trin...
Anonymous Coward
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7/5/2009 4:02 PM
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woa, that don't sound right , I notice that my bill jumped 50% in the last 2 months , something is surely wrong here
Anonymous Coward
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7/5/2009 4:03 PM
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agent
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7/5/2009 4:05 PM
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I'm gonna go out there and cut the fucking main line breaker and see if that piece of shit keeps running up the bill anyway
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
Anonymous Coward
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7/5/2009 4:06 PM
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yep that is america, everyone is nickeled and dimed and it is proportional to your wealth, can't escape it
tvtech3
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7/5/2009 4:07 PM
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Happened to us at our place down there also
we have teco there and its double of what it should be every month
Just2Laws
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7/5/2009 4:08 PM
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Those Smart Meters are sure smart aren't they? They not only can read how many KW/hours you use but the size of your wallet too.

I am scrambling to get my solar/wind system back up and running following a lightning strike. We haven't been forced to get the Smart Meter yet in my county in Florida but I know it's coming.

Trin, Make darn sure you are well grounded. The key is ONE ground. My cable installer added a separate ground for the internet hook-up. That is a big NO-NO for solar.
"You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself." Luke 10:27
Dread Pirate Roberts
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7/5/2009 4:12 PM
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the words for it are "regulatory oppression" and lately, "soft tyranny" (Even though Alexis de Tocqueville coined it in the 1800s)

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and it will be the way we are conquered, if it indeed is not too late now.
From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
^TrInItY^ SubscriberModerator
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7/5/2009 4:19 PM
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I'm on generator power now

gonna see what it does with the main off

Last Edited by ^TrInItY^ on 7/5/2009 at 4:19 PM
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 715588
7/5/2009 4:23 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

I'm on generator power now

gonna see what it does with the main off
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Survey says?
Anonymous Coward
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7/5/2009 4:23 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

our costs went up 50-75% after they installed our new meter.

they are great!
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7/5/2009 4:23 PM
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They installed a new water meter in our basement, they said it was more efficient at reading our water usage than our old one. Our water bill jumped, no explanation at city hall as to why this happened since our usage stayed the same.
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7/5/2009 4:23 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

I'm on generator power now

gonna see what it does with the main off


Survey says?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715588

I'll betcha $10 it still runs...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

Anonymous Coward
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7/5/2009 4:24 PM
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Sounds like this new smart meter is smart enough to know how to screw you.
^TrInItY^ SubscriberModerator
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7/5/2009 4:25 PM
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Those Smart Meters are sure smart aren't they? They not only can read how many KW/hours you use but the size of your wallet too.

I am scrambling to get my solar/wind system back up and running following a lightning strike. We haven't been forced to get the Smart Meter yet in my county in Florida but I know it's coming.

Trin, Make darn sure you are well grounded. The key is ONE ground. My cable installer added a separate ground for the internet hook-up. That is a big NO-NO for solar.
 Quoting: Just2Laws



yea all my solar is wired back to the main house ground

it's all hooked to the same ground
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
Just2Laws
User ID: 687890
7/5/2009 4:25 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

You will get a visit from the power company.

When I went solar I had a electric co employee at my gate demanding to look at the meter. They thought I had altered it to steal power.
"You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself." Luke 10:27
^TrInItY^ SubscriberModerator
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7/5/2009 4:27 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

our costs went up 50-75% after they installed our new meter.

they are great!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 678723



it seems to have stopped running with the main utility disconnect pulled

I think it must be doubling the usage on loads when they are hooked up to it

I have my house wired up special so I can run stuff off an outlet running straight off the breaker box outside..

I'm gonna try to hookup something that I know the power usage on and see if I can catch them that way...
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
^TrInItY^ SubscriberModerator
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7/5/2009 4:27 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

You will get a visit from the power company.

When I went solar I had a electric co employee at my gate demanding to look at the meter. They thought I had altered it to steal power.
 Quoting: Just2Laws



yea they already sent out 4 guys from the power company on monday to check my shit out

then they came with the smart meter the NEXT DAY
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
refugee13 Subscriber
"oh well, whatever, nevermind..."
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7/5/2009 4:30 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

You will get a visit from the power company.

When I went solar I had a electric co employee at my gate demanding to look at the meter. They thought I had altered it to steal power.



yea they already sent out 4 guys from the power company on monday to check my shit out

then they came with the smart meter the NEXT DAY
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^

Utility comapny Bastards!!!
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 554023
7/5/2009 4:32 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

My monthly kilowatt usage was 2750 last month

They put this new meter on my house tuesday and so far it says I've used 900 kilowatt hours!

It's been less than a week!

That means I'm gonna be DOUBLE the usage I was on the old meter

This is total bullshit

I have to get over to full solar ASAP
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^

Bad karma.
Tully D
User ID: 713789
7/5/2009 4:35 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

I'm gonna go out there and cut the fucking main line breaker and see if that piece of shit keeps running up the bill anyway
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Hmmm...probably not the wisest move man. Never a good idea to antagonize the big bad wolf establishment.

...just returning a little dose of advice given me a little earlier...wink
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Anonymous Coward
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7/5/2009 4:39 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

You will get a visit from the power company.

When I went solar I had a electric co employee at my gate demanding to look at the meter. They thought I had altered it to steal power.



yea they already sent out 4 guys from the power company on monday to check my shit out

then they came with the smart meter the NEXT DAY
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Before I bought the place I am in now I was renting a small place while I was looking to buy.The first couple of months I lived there I had the the old meter,then they came and added the new digital type meter.I was seldom there and used less than the first two months I was there and my bill almost doubled.
They probably hurried out to install yours knowing you planed to go solar.This way they can get the higher crap in place so if you use it at all they will make nearly as much.It is totally a rip off.I cant prove it but I know how my bill went up using less.I think they are set to run faster or something.
Shady
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7/5/2009 4:39 PM
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woa, that don't sound right , I notice that my bill jumped 50% in the last 2 months , something is surely wrong here
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717787



Don't forget summer is here now, and that means perhaps now you are using more electricity/larger bill if you have the AC cranked at all?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718879
7/5/2009 4:42 PM
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are you sure that the cost per unit is not different subsequent to the new meter being installed or even if there are new pricing tiers after the first 1000 kw hours or something like that?
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7/5/2009 4:44 PM
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Odd. Our bill didn't seem to change when the switch was made at our house in Tampa. If it did, it was very little...it certainly didn't double.
Anonymous Coward
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7/5/2009 4:47 PM
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our costs went up 50-75% after they installed our new meter.

they are great!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 678723



mine too.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718719
7/5/2009 4:50 PM
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I'm gonna go out there and cut the fucking main line breaker and see if that piece of shit keeps running up the bill anyway
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


lol
Anonymous Coward
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7/5/2009 4:52 PM
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Yeah trin run some tests, record it if you can. Ya know, give us something more then your word on it.
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