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** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357856
7/5/2009 8:58 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
They put the meter on my house 6 months ago. The bill is the same as before. I have some older bills.
The meters will likely be used for cap and tax energy controls.
I got a couple of wind mills i need to install. |
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TAC 
Just another conspiracy nut
User ID: 703884
7/5/2009 9:23 PM
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I don't see the problem here. You want to bludge off the power companies? What's wrong with them making money and being successful? Are you jealous they run a big successful company and employ people? Perhaps you should get off your arse and do something with your life instead of complaining.
EXACTLY! JUST PAY THE DAMN BILL AND SHUT UP! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718995
Quote FAIL
Take your dogma and shove it!
Life is not about what happens to you, it's about how you deal with it. |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/5/2009 9:24 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
25-6.059 Meter Test by Request.
(1) Upon request of a customer, the utility shall, without charge, make a test of the accuracy of the meter in use at his premises provided that the meter has not been tested by the utility or the Commission within twelve (12) months previous to such request. This may be a shop test.
(2) Should any customer request a meter test more frequently than provided for in subsection (1) of this rule, the utility may require a deposit to defray costs of testing, such deposit not to exceed one hundred dollars ($100.00) for each test. If the meter is found to be running fast in excess of the allowable limit the deposit shall be refunded, but if the meter is below the allowable limit, the deposit may be retained by the utility as a service charge for conducting the test.
(3) If the customer so desires, he or his authorized representative shall have the privilege of witnessing the test. A written report giving the results of the test shall be furnished to the customer upon request.
(4) At the request of the customer, the utility shall make arrangements for a meter test to be conducted by an independent meter testing facility of the customer’s choosing. The customer shall be responsible for negotiating and paying to the independent meter testing facility any fee charged for such a test. Such independent meter testing facilities shall, at a minimum, conform to the requirements of the American National Standard for Electric Metering, Code for Electricity Metering (ANSI C12.1 2001), which is incorporated herein by reference. Where appropriate, the meter may be field tested. The customer shall be responsible for all the costs incurred by the utility related to a meter test by an independent testing facility. The utility shall provide a detailed estimate of costs the utility expects to incur related to the meter test and may require payment of such costs prior to the actual meter test. The customer shall provide to the utility a detailed estimate of charges from the independent testing facility for the meter test prior to the actual test. If the meter is found to be running fast in excess of the limits established by these rules, any payment collected by the utility related to the meter test shall be refunded, but if the meter is found to be within the limits established by these rules, the utility may retain any payments collected by the utility related to the meter test.
(5) The utility may, at its discretion, conduct its own test of the meter in conformance with the testing standards established by these rules. In the event that separate tests of the same meter conflict as to whether the meter meets the accuracy standards established by these rules, at the request of the utility or the customer, the Commission will resolve the matter.
(6) For equipment tested under this rule, any previous accuracy test result on record at the time the meter test is requested must be retained in accordance with Rule 25-6.022, F.A.C.
Specific Authority 366.05(1) FS. Law Implemented 366.05(3), (4), (5) FS. History–New 7-29-69, Amended 10-11-83, Formerly 25-6.59, Amended 7-3-06. |
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Holy Bat Shitman!
User ID: 669879
7/5/2009 9:26 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
sounds like a load of shit trinity,im going to go check my meter tomarrow,fight the power!
[link to batshitman.mybrute.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718360
7/5/2009 9:36 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
You will get a visit from the power company.
When I went solar I had a electric co employee at my gate demanding to look at the meter. They thought I had altered it to steal power. Quoting: Just2Laws
next thing, they will start charging us for using the sun, and breathing the air. |
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Tully D
User ID: 713789
7/5/2009 9:52 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
bump for my earlier comment....
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 719044
7/5/2009 10:06 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
I may be wrong but I'm thinking the smart meter charges you also by the TIME OF DAY you are using the power. For example, if at 2:pm with a heat index of 105* you decide to run your clothes dryer, you are going to pay more per kw for the privilege. I know at the college where my DH used to work; after GA Power put on some kind of meter, they went through the ENTIRE YEAR'S electric budget in 2 days. It was crazy and that's how it was explained to them that they are charged more per kw during peak times.
But I understand what Trin is saying.... that the kw measuring is f'ked up as well, so you are using more kw's then you know you are and probably getting charged a higher rate for them as well.
Screw them all..... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 696735
7/5/2009 10:07 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
Does anyone see the parallel between the electric rate/meters and the oil/gas rip off. (We all know it was rip off, just like the Enron deal)
How has your water/sewer bill been?
Insurance bill?
Other bills?
I'm sure with these two precedents alone a pattern can be seen.
Comments? |
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Boardretard
User ID: 719050
7/5/2009 10:19 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
woa, that don't sound right , I notice that my bill jumped 50% in the last 2 months , something is surely wrong here Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717787
You may be onto something there. My KWH usage according to my latest bill for my house is up 375% over last year's usage and the largest new appliance is a gas oven followed by an alarm clock.
Meanwhile my shop is using twice as much as it did last month and I have verified the meter readings myself.
My meters are ancient. How could this be? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 658970
7/5/2009 10:19 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
I may be wrong but I'm thinking the smart meter charges you also by the TIME OF DAY you are using the power. For example, if at 2:pm with a heat index of 105* you decide to run your clothes dryer, you are going to pay more per kw for the privilege. I know at the college where my DH used to work; after GA Power put on some kind of meter, they went through the ENTIRE YEAR'S electric budget in 2 days. It was crazy and that's how it was explained to them that they are charged more per kw during peak times.
But I understand what Trin is saying.... that the kw measuring is f'ked up as well, so you are using more kw's then you know you are and probably getting charged a higher rate for them as well.
Screw them all..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719044
Guys smart meters are basically going to allow the utilities to eventually price things out based on time of day. They'll also allow them to cut off power by declaring artificially scarce power. This cap and trade is going to require these utilities to shut off much of their electric load (interrupt) during peaking summer months, which drives their own costs all year long. Without doing these things, cap and trade will jack your costs even higher. Mind you, the more unsophisticated facilities will merely do nothing and you'll see extremely high costs. As for carbon taxes, you also get hit harder with those taxes during certain times of day when they implement that stuff in a more formal manner. Most people have no idea what's coming down the pike. Add these costs to your product costs etc and you'll begin to feel it. Then they'll add the per mile carbon toll and monitor everything you do with an all transaction (no cash money) carbon taxation system. Enjoy! |
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embu
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7/5/2009 10:23 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
You will get a visit from the power company.
When I went solar I had a electric co employee at my gate demanding to look at the meter. They thought I had altered it to steal power.
next thing, they will start charging us for using the sun, and breathing the air. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718360
when they declare co2 toxic you won't be able to exhale |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 710286
7/5/2009 10:29 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
In my area, they're taxing those who use less energy, shit you not...
......and it's in your area too (usa wide)
[link to www.kctv5.com]
[link to kansascity.bizjournals.com]
Fucking crooks. |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/5/2009 10:47 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
[link to www.edn.com]
Take a look at this. I wonder is this is relevant?
Monday, April 6, 2009
Utilities suffer from CFLs’ poor power factor
Apr 6 2009 6:00PM | Permalink |Email this|Comments (76) |
Every CFL light contains a small ac-dc power supply with reactive components in it that will affect the CFL’s power factor (PF) – that is, the load presented to the ac line. The closer the PF is to 1, the better. A load with low power factor (<.85) draws more current and is less efficient than a load with a high power factor for the same amount of useful power. The higher currents required by the lower PF devices mean increased energy lost in the grid due to such things as I2R losses. These power losses don’t show up directly on our electricity bill, but the utilities sure see the effects.
I put one of my home CFL bulbs on my Kill-O-Watt power meter recently and measured its power factor: It was .57. This is lousy. Although each CFL is only 13W, there are millions of them out there. Why no PF regulation, as there is of higher-power, but less ubiquitous devices?
I emailed Peter Banwell of the EnergyStar program and asked if EnergyStar was considering making minimum PF a requirement for Energy Star compliance. He replied, “We looked at this in detail several years ago and decided against it, though there are a couple of utilities that still support the idea. We may take this up in the future, as the market share grows, but right now it is still in the noise in terms of impacts.”
Coincidentally, after our email exchange I ran into Mike Grather of Luminaire Testing Laboratory. He recently ran a series of life-cycle and performance tests on a batch of 100 CFLs with various power ratings averaging approximately 20W each. They assumed a PF for the lights of at least .75 and sized the power supply at 3KVA. However, when they powered up the bank of CFLs, the 3KVA supply was inadequate. Grather checked the power factor for the CFLs and found they ranged from .45 to .50. Their “real” load was about twice that implied by their wattage.
CFLs are still an efficient form of household lighting, but their poor PF number is leaving money on the table. However, it’s clear that at about $2 each there’s not a lot of room for adding power factor correction circuitry. On the other hand, utilities are already going to great lengths to encourage consumers to switch to CFLs, including subsidizing the price of CFLs. I doubt that consumers would be interested in paying more for a feature that actually benefits the utility directly, not them. Perhaps utilities will start to subsidize high-power-factor CFLs, rather than the mediocre ones we can buy now.
I seriously wonder if they have changed the way they measure usage. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618285
7/5/2009 10:50 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
I am surprised how those that post 'fail' 'owned' etc are totally oblivious to the fact that they are merely painting a sign on their forehead that says 'Juvenile Imbecile' |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 300370
7/5/2009 10:54 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
Based on notification received from Florida Progress Energy on Friday..here is your answer...yes, they know they over charging..and they won't do jack at first...after they have collected all the money they over charged and sat on it for TWO YEARS(interest..etc) then they are "penalized" by the utility commission..which translates to a measly approx. $5.00 refund to each customer..they keep doing it, year after year after year..because there is nothing really stopping them..except to get off the grid. |
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refugee13
"oh well, whatever, nevermind..."
User ID: 655317
7/5/2009 10:57 PM
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You will get a visit from the power company.
When I went solar I had a electric co employee at my gate demanding to look at the meter. They thought I had altered it to steal power.
next thing, they will start charging us for using the sun, and breathing the air. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718360
Hell...they already charge for air for the tires on your car!!!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 711980
7/5/2009 11:03 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
Let's say you request a meter test, the power company will have ample time to prepare for it. With the smart tech. what is to stop them from shifting things back to normal. Who is a judge going to believe? Joe public or the power co.?
Best to have evidence before alerting them. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716196
7/5/2009 11:04 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
My monthly kilowatt usage was 2750 last month
They put this new meter on my house tuesday and so far it says I've used 900 kilowatt hours!
It's been less than a week!
That means I'm gonna be DOUBLE the usage I was on the old meter
This is total bullshit
I have to get over to full solar ASAP Quoting: ^TrInItY^
Yes that's right, anyone who has rocked the boat and continues to do so will be billed twice over. Of course, maybe it really didn't double either, and your just saying that trying to be an everyman hero to us.
Some of us are not as gullible as the general sheep population, and question all, until we really know the source is trust worthy, and really one of us. |
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Um, Huh?
User ID: 671413
7/5/2009 11:22 PM
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Gustatus Similis Pullus |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 588322
7/5/2009 11:35 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
Are these the new cap and trade meters? lol.
Kind of. Definetly another way to keep tabs on you.
And. I don't know if folks know this. But the authorities can use the electric wiring in your house to hear you and they can put out different energy waves through the electric wiring to change your mood and such. Amazing stuff. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717548
wrong not inside the home only inside certain electronic(s)
outside wiring on poles increase 60x (yes 60 times what you will feel) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718900
7/5/2009 11:50 PM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
that load should have taken exactly 32 minutes to use 1 kwh
it took 18 minutes to use 1kwh on the new meter
this is IN LINE with the nearly double power usage I am showing since they installed this meter
I am calling the engineers out here monday and I'm gonna prove it to their faces
maybe I'll get it on tape for you Quoting: ^TrInItY^
Definitely get it on tape, then do us all a huge favor -- take that tape to a top lawyer and start a class action lawsuit against them. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 718900
7/6/2009 12:03 AM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
You will get a visit from the power company.
When I went solar I had a electric co employee at my gate demanding to look at the meter. They thought I had altered it to steal power.
next thing, they will start charging us for using the sun, and breathing the air. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 718360
STFU!
You'll give them ideas. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 550635
7/6/2009 12:05 AM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
My monthly kilowatt usage was 2750 last month
They put this new meter on my house tuesday and so far it says I've used 900 kilowatt hours!
It's been less than a week!
That means I'm gonna be DOUBLE the usage I was on the old meter
This is total bullshit
I have to get over to full solar ASAP Quoting: ^TrInItY^
Buy your own meter at Granger.com or maybe it was at blackbox.com. Compare the meters. Maybe buy a few different manufacturers, monitor your own usage. If theirs is off, sure the shit out of them. Also I think some inverters tell you what you are using.
Also >>>>>>> LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY. YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOUR PANELS.
With CMEs coming from the sun now, and the magnetosphere (Earth's shields) being whacked out, your panels could get fried in the upcoming months. I'm pretty sure we could see EMPs from the Sun and the EMPs could damage your panels. If you have the money, I would do a few things. 1) Get some backup panels, 2) Get a generator with a 5000gal underground fuel tank, 3) I'm not sure if this will work but make some stainless covers for your panels. Drill a hole in the corner and connect a ground cable. Ground the cover / cables to the panels. Maybe use a ground clamp one end to allow for quick removal. These covers may reflect the Sun's rays away from the panels.
How would you know when to cover them? After a CME fires off from the Sun. How much time we have before impact is determined by the intensity of the CME. Typically it reaches Earth in a day or so but with the shields down, and the super large X50 we had in 2003-04, who knows... |
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IscopeU
User ID: 645417
7/6/2009 12:14 AM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
Good luck my friend. Looks like you might be the one with a system that can actually proof this. I hope you take this all the way. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 719023
7/6/2009 12:14 AM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
Let's say you request a meter test, the power company will have ample time to prepare for it. With the smart tech. what is to stop them from shifting things back to normal. Who is a judge going to believe? Joe public or the power co.?
Best to have evidence before alerting them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711980
I believe this is the way to do it. Get other electric monitor people involved and recorded first. NEed the evidence before your local electric people hide the evidence.
Thats what smart meters do. The people at the electric companys home base have control of them. Not good. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 719137
7/6/2009 12:16 AM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
that load should have taken exactly 32 minutes to use 1 kwh
it took 18 minutes to use 1kwh on the new meter
this is IN LINE with the nearly double power usage I am showing since they installed this meter
I am calling the engineers out here monday and I'm gonna prove it to their faces
maybe I'll get it on tape for you Quoting: ^TrInItY^
Hello,
I'm not sure what state you live in....but in my state...there is a department of weights and standards...they are supposed to check accuracy of measuring devices used heavily by consumers....gasoline meters, water meters, electric meters...you could appeal the charges to the state utilities commission and demand a calibration test. You can even get the police to prove their radar guns are accurate as a defense to a speeding ticket. |
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bubba
User ID: 704316
7/6/2009 12:31 AM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
that load should have taken exactly 32 minutes to use 1 kwh
it took 18 minutes to use 1kwh on the new meter
this is IN LINE with the nearly double power usage I am showing since they installed this meter
I am calling the engineers out here monday and I'm gonna prove it to their faces
maybe I'll get it on tape for you
Hello,
I'm not sure what state you live in....but in my state...there is a department of weights and standards...they are supposed to check accuracy of measuring devices used heavily by consumers....gasoline meters, water meters, electric meters...you could appeal the charges to the state utilities commission and demand a calibration test. You can even get the police to prove their radar guns are accurate as a defense to a speeding ticket. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719137
Sorry but that only applies to mechanical devices.Electronic devices can be tweaked with undetected. Similar to"Black Magic",by its very definition. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717022
7/6/2009 12:37 AM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
The new meter is fine, the old one was wrong and reporting less energy use than what it should be.
Stop complaining, you are the thief here, and if you had a good heart you would calculate how much you owe them and pay it back. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 664728
7/6/2009 1:29 AM | | Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18 | Quote |
We had the same issue with the digital meter. We stopped using the A/C, dishwasher and dryer AND drained the pool(I went all green lol)
Hot water heater and stove were gas.
and with the new meter, our bill went up almost double. We were using 1200-1500 kWh with all the modern conveniences. We were using 2500 WITHOUT them. WTF??
Also had a similar problem with the water meter being replaced. They kept insisting that we used 60,000 gallons of water. That isn't even possible. We had several plumbers speak to them but still didn't get the bill reduced.
I never got anywhere with the power company either.
I said screw it and we moved out of the country about 2 months later. |
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ExhaleAeonVolts
User ID: 444542
7/6/2009 1:51 AM
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Well I just tested the hair dryer on the solar system to get a reading on the actual load it's using and it's only using 13 amps @110v which = 1430 watts..
I did the test assuming the hair dryer was using 1875 watts like it said on the tag...
So that means the meter is over charging me even more than I thought.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^
Trinity, Can't wait to see where this goes with the power company.
RE the 1875 vs 1430 watts.
The items/appliances are tagged for Peak power utilization. Their actual usage is usually 10-20% less than what the tag rates the item.
Either way! Take it ALL THE WAY.
Even if they come up with some bullshit about wiring,
this needs to be published in the papers/on the news.
People must be warned to verify their power usage pre and post smart meter and fight before they get a $2000 bill which will shut down their power, if they can't pay.
FUCKERS....grrrr.
To quote the brilliant Thomas Sowell.........
"Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Moammar Gadhafi and Vladimir Putin have all praised Barack Obama. When enemies of freedom and democracy praise your president, what are you to think? When you add to this Barack Obama's many previous years of associations and alliances with people who hate America — Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, etc. — at what point do you stop denying the obvious and start to connect the dots?" |
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