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** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18

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Evil Twin SubscriberModerator
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7/8/2009 2:20 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

Nice!

I wonder how many others are getting robbed and don't know it yet.
To visualize the coming apocalypse, imagine, if you will, Oprah & Rosie O'Donnell wrestling for the last rib at an all-you can-eat Bar-B-Q...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357422
7/8/2009 2:23 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

Trinity, will you start a thread stating that 2 smart meters showed double the load as tested by the power company's equipment and keep it pinned for a week at least?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 683924
7/8/2009 2:24 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

I would have taken video of them working on it. I would not be surprised you still get a crazy bill for the time the meter was on the house.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 719873
7/8/2009 2:33 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

wow great time for your "friend" to be late.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 719873
7/8/2009 2:34 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

i just got the smart meter and my electric bill seems to have doubled too.
OneAngryMom
User ID: 697082
7/8/2009 2:44 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

O.K.

They just left

GET THIS SHIT!

They tested with my smart meter with their own power company EQ and VERIFIED it WAS doubling the load!!

THEN they installed another brand new smart meter to test it again.

Well guess what...

The NEW smart meter ALSO SHOWED A DOUBLE USAGE READING!

This is by the power company with their own equipment!

So then they put back on my old analogue meter and tested with that..

Of course it showed almost perfect reading..

I asked them to sign something saying what happened and they REFUSED..

I then told them the power commission law requires them to issue a report to me if I ask about what happened today and they reluctantly agreed to provide me one via mail.

There were THREE guys here so if I had to I could depose them UNDER OATH and get the truth if they lie on this report...

Stay tuned people cause I just busted the living shit outa the power company by their own tests!!

I now have my old analogue meter back on the house :)

My fuckin electrician was late and didn't get here till they were gone...

He is here now and I'm trying to get them to come back out so I can get them to admit the results in front of him..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



VERY WELL DONE

THANKS from ALL of us!
refugee13 Subscriber
"oh well, whatever, nevermind..."
User ID: 655317
7/8/2009 2:48 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

O.K.

They just left

GET THIS SHIT!

They tested with my smart meter with their own power company EQ and VERIFIED it WAS doubling the load!!

THEN they installed another brand new smart meter to test it again.

Well guess what...

The NEW smart meter ALSO SHOWED A DOUBLE USAGE READING!

This is by the power company with their own equipment!

So then they put back on my old analogue meter and tested with that..

Of course it showed almost perfect reading..

I asked them to sign something saying what happened and they REFUSED..

I then told them the power commission law requires them to issue a report to me if I ask about what happened today and they reluctantly agreed to provide me one via mail.

There were THREE guys here so if I had to I could depose them UNDER OATH and get the truth if they lie on this report...

Stay tuned people cause I just busted the living shit outa the power company by their own tests!!

I now have my old analogue meter back on the house :)

My fuckin electrician was late and didn't get here till they were gone...

He is here now and I'm trying to get them to come back out so I can get them to admit the results in front of him..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^

Kudos to you, Trinity...keep up the good work...bust their balls...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 212949
7/8/2009 2:55 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

That Sucks!

Without anything in writing no one is gonna know.

Wish you could have video taped the bastards switching it out, and their faces when both read high.

Knowing what you are going through.... I'll be video taping everything that happens when the bastards switch mine out.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 721131
7/8/2009 3:09 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

That Sucks!

Without anything in writing no one is gonna know.

Wish you could have video taped the bastards switching it out, and their faces when both read high.

Knowing what you are going through.... I'll be video taping everything that happens when the bastards switch mine out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 212949


Well, there STILL is that erroneous meter... it doesnt really matter what happened today, (apart from the i'm-sure-I-busted-them-thing) as new evidence can be made at any time... especially if legal action is taken.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 558616
7/8/2009 3:25 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Buy a fricken video camera man..... thousands of dollars for solar and george4fail and no video of these events?!?!?! come on dude....
^TrInItY^ SubscriberModerator
Forum Administrator
7/8/2009 3:31 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

So get this..

They left open the transformer box at the end of the driveway when they left so I called and told them they needed to come back out and close it...

2 of the same engineers came back out and REFUSED to tell my electrician the test results in person...

They said only their boss could do that..

So I told them I've now lost total faith that they will issue a true and accurate report as to what happened today and that I was now going to pull my cctv tapes (with audio) and call my lawyer to initiate a lawsuit...

They left and then I called the legal department at the power company and told them if they did not immediately restore my faith that they would indeed issue a true report and do the right thing for their customers I was going to initiate a lawsuit TODAY...

He said give me your number I'll have the manager of engineering call you back..

The manager of engineering called me back and I had him on speaker phone..

He asked immediately if I was recording and I said NO but I have my electrician here on speaker phone...

I then asked him a series of questions and asked him to answer yes or no only..

Question 1: Did you come out and test my original smart meter with your own equipment and verify it was indeed doubling the kwh usage?

Answer 1: Yes

Question 2: Did you then install a brand new smart meter and test it and it too registered double the kwh usage?

Answer 2: Yes

Question 3: Did you then install my old analogue meter and test it resulting in a verified accurate kwh measurement.

Answer 3: Yes

---

That phone call was witnessed by a licensed electrician at my house and the engineer was informed of this...

I now have a witness...

Last Edited by ^TrInItY^ on 7/8/2009 at 5:52 PM
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
omnipadme007
User ID: 569651
7/8/2009 3:35 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

get em where it hurts trin iamwith
^TrInItY^ SubscriberModerator
Forum Administrator
7/8/2009 3:37 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

I would have taken video of them working on it. I would not be surprised you still get a crazy bill for the time the meter was on the house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 683924



yea I've got it on tape

my house is covered with cameras

I just gota go pull it off the cctv system and burn it to cd

Last Edited by ^TrInItY^ on 7/8/2009 at 3:37 PM
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
The Chef
User ID: 671624
7/8/2009 3:37 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

O.K.

They just left

GET THIS SHIT!

They tested my smart meter with their own power company EQ and VERIFIED it WAS doubling the load!!

THEN they installed another brand new smart meter to test it again.

Well guess what...

The NEW smart meter ALSO SHOWED A DOUBLE USAGE READING!

This is by the power company with their own equipment!

So then they put back on my old analogue meter and tested with that..

Of course it showed almost perfect reading..

I asked them to sign something saying what happened and they REFUSED..

I then told them the power commission law requires them to issue a report to me if I ask about what happened today and they reluctantly agreed to provide me one via mail.

There were THREE guys here so if I had to I could depose them UNDER OATH and get the truth if they lie on this report...

Stay tuned people cause I just busted the living shit outa the power company by their own tests!!

I now have my old analogue meter back on the house :)

My fuckin electrician was late and didn't get here till they were gone...

He is here now and I'm trying to get them to come back out so I can get them to admit the results in front of him..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Good for you man! Just think how many people are out there that would not know how to do what you did. Too bad your guy wasn't there that would have been classic.
mercury2
User ID: 344237
7/8/2009 3:39 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

Jesus Trinity, thanks for fielding all this bullshit. There is so much garbage like this in ALL areas these days. Thanks for rising to the occasion . . .
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 645277
7/8/2009 3:39 PM
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Good job, Trinity! You rock, man!

Now if you can get a friendly Congressman who isn't beholden to the power companies, you can get a legislation going to protect consumers from the ripping-off bastards from the power companies. Remember, not of your fellow citizens have what you have.
SnakeAirlines
User ID: 720066
7/8/2009 3:40 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

(read as Arte Johnson)

Veddy Intedesting...
I have come here to chew bubblegum, and kick ass...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 597883
7/8/2009 3:41 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

FUCK the power grid companies !!!!!!!!!!!!

WE HAVE had the tech to be off the grid for decades now !!!

Another ponzi scheme !!

Trin if I were you I would FUCK these people as hard as possible !!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 709127
7/8/2009 3:41 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

Instead of assuming this massive outrage WHY DONT YOU ACT LIKE A FUCKING ADULT AND CALL THEM ON IT INSTEAD OF CAUSING A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT.
^TrInItY^ SubscriberModerator
Forum Administrator
7/8/2009 3:42 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

my electrician also has a smart meter on his house..

he said his bill went from 200 a month to 325 a month since they installed it..

He's going to go test his own tonight when he goes home and call me..

If he verifies it at his residence as well he said he's gonna have everyone in his shop go verify as well...

Once I have those guys on board with proof I am going to take these fuckers down
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 522543
7/8/2009 3:42 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

yea I've got it on tape

my house is covered with cameras
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


now your starting to scare me.

lol rock on T
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716959
7/8/2009 3:42 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

this is strange
my bill is the same month in month out.
i quit watering my lawn -hardly water it
my bill is always the same-exactly
electric water...how can this be is my question

is it the dumb meter or the .....blank meter reader
 Quoting: ripoff 272605



Perhaps I didn't understand your post, but you do realize your water usage has nothing to do with your electrical bill. Unless you're talking about a hot water heater, then I can sortof see what you're saying.
Rraider
User ID: 721193
7/8/2009 3:44 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

I would have taken video of them working on it. I would not be surprised you still get a crazy bill for the time the meter was on the house.



yea I've got it on tape

my house is covered with cameras

I just gota go pull it off the cctv system and burn it to cd
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^

5a
Yeah Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 11158
7/8/2009 3:46 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

Ask the electric company when the device was last calibrated.

They have to test each unit before installation with a calibrated unit that is x10 times more accurate than the unit being tested. Each unit should have a date stamp when this was done.
Rraider
User ID: 721193
7/8/2009 3:46 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

this is strange
my bill is the same month in month out.
i quit watering my lawn -hardly water it
my bill is always the same-exactly
electric water...how can this be is my question

is it the dumb meter or the .....blank meter reader



Perhaps I didn't understand your post, but you do realize your water usage has nothing to do with your electrical bill. Unless you're talking about a hot water heater, then I can sortof see what you're saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 716959

Prolly on a well 220
Um, Huh?
User ID: 671413
7/8/2009 3:47 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

Once I have those guys on board with proof I am going to take these fuckers down
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


ur my hero!
hf
Gustatus Similis Pullus
FreeFlow
User ID: 456207
7/8/2009 3:49 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

Excuse me if this was already stated on this thread, what company is making these diebold like meters?

Last Edited by FreeFlow on 7/8/2009 at 3:49 PM
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
^TrInItY^ SubscriberModerator
Forum Administrator
7/8/2009 3:50 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

FUCK the power grid companies !!!!!!!!!!!!

WE HAVE had the tech to be off the grid for decades now !!!

Another ponzi scheme !!

Trin if I were you I would FUCK these people as hard as possible !!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 597883



I am a client of the largest lawfirm in florida

They are out of Tallahassee

they help write state legislature and stuff

They will cream there pants when I come to them with 6 independent verified field tests proving double charging by a power company..
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
^TrInItY^ SubscriberModerator
Forum Administrator
7/8/2009 3:51 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

Excuse me if this was already stated on this thread, what company is making these diebold like meters?
 Quoting: FreeFlow


hmm I dunno which company it was that makes the meters

they told me but I didn't pay attention and now I have my old meter back
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 522543
7/8/2009 3:52 PM
Re: ** ORIGINAL COPY OF DOCUMENT WITH MY POWER COMPANY ADMITTING TO DOUBLE CHARGING ON SMART METERS IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON PAGE 18Quote

Excuse me if this was already stated on this thread, what company is making these diebold like meters?


hmm I dunno which company it was that makes the meters

they told me but I didn't pay attention and now I have my old meter back
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


ask your guy what he has on his when he gets home to check. so the rest of us can check to see if we have a match
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