the last few pages in The Book Of Revelation explains alot about this .
The pronouncement of the Morning Star in the final chapter of Revelation, must be a real thorn in the side of the even the most ardent Christian.
Why?
Are you familiar with 'morning star' symbolism...including Babylonian, Luciferian and even the Old Testament?
To do with Venus you mean?
Venus is an inferior planet...meaning that we'll never see it high in the night sky...Venus is the Morning Star.
Ok, but i still don't understand what you mean about a thorn in the side, sorry. I've also heard Venus called the evening star too.
Because the morning star is one of the most significant and enduring symbols of astronomy.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715001
Sorry OP, that doesn't answer my question. Why would it be a thorn in the side to a Christian who believes God created the planets and stars and placed them in the heavens in their pictures (the zodaic/Mazzaroth), regardless of what man decided to name them?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 715001 (OP) 7/6/2009 6:51 AM
Re: What Would Happen To Religion If The Book of Revelation Was Actually Based on Astrology?
the last few pages in The Book Of Revelation explains alot about this .
The pronouncement of the Morning Star in the final chapter of Revelation, must be a real thorn in the side of the even the most ardent Christian.
Why?
Are you familiar with 'morning star' symbolism...including Babylonian, Luciferian and even the Old Testament?
To do with Venus you mean?
Venus is an inferior planet...meaning that we'll never see it high in the night sky...Venus is the Morning Star.
Ok, but i still don't understand what you mean about a thorn in the side, sorry. I've also heard Venus called the evening star too.
Because the morning star is one of the most significant and enduring symbols of astronomy.
Sorry OP, that doesn't answer my question. Why would it be a thorn in the side to a Christian who believes God created the planets and stars and placed them in the heavens in their pictures (the zodaic/Mazzaroth), regardless of what man decided to name them?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 635776
No need to be sorry.
Because the Revelation, and therefore the entire New Testament doesn't reconcile with the Old Testament, specfically, the Book of Isiah.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 718235 7/6/2009 7:36 AM
Re: What Would Happen To Religion If The Book of Revelation Was Actually Based on Astrology?
the last few pages in The Book Of Revelation explains alot about this .
The pronouncement of the Morning Star in the final chapter of Revelation, must be a real thorn in the side of the even the most ardent Christian.
Why?
Are you familiar with 'morning star' symbolism...including Babylonian, Luciferian and even the Old Testament?
To do with Venus you mean?
Venus is an inferior planet...meaning that we'll never see it high in the night sky...Venus is the Morning Star.
Ok, but i still don't understand what you mean about a thorn in the side, sorry. I've also heard Venus called the evening star too.
Because the morning star is one of the most significant and enduring symbols of astronomy.
Sorry OP, that doesn't answer my question. Why would it be a thorn in the side to a Christian who believes God created the planets and stars and placed them in the heavens in their pictures (the zodaic/Mazzaroth), regardless of what man decided to name them?
No need to be sorry.
Because the Revelation, and therefore the entire New Testament doesn't reconcile with the Old Testament, specfically, the Book of Isiah.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715001
Are you talking about "Lucifer, son of the morning"?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 595525 7/6/2009 8:03 AM
Re: What Would Happen To Religion If The Book of Revelation Was Actually Based on Astrology?
Because the morning star is one of the most significant and enduring symbols of astronomy.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 715001
And one of the reasons that many of the ancient temples were built the way they were. In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself. --Krishnamurti
Anonymous Coward User ID: 719688 7/6/2009 6:04 PM
Re: What Would Happen To Religion If The Book of Revelation Was Actually Based on Astrology?
The white man's problem is one that he failed to anticipate.
Having honed his skills for the purpose of broadcasting specious lies, he succeeded in fooling much of the world, offering it credible lies and truths hidden as myth, fantasy and fiction.
Now he is faced with the unenviable task of making the incredible, credible.
Having shown himself to be a consummate liar, he will never be trusted to tell the truth.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 718235 7/6/2009 6:08 PM
Re: What Would Happen To Religion If The Book of Revelation Was Actually Based on Astrology?
The white man's problem is one that he failed to anticipate.
Having honed his skills for the purpose of broadcasting specious lies, he succeeded in fooling much of the world, offering it credible lies and truths hidden as myth, fantasy and fiction.
Now he is faced with the unenviable task of making the incredible, credible.
Having shown himself to be a consummate liar, he will never be trusted to tell the truth.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719688
That is double talk rhetoric...have you considered a career in the law?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 701321 7/6/2009 6:09 PM
Re: What Would Happen To Religion If The Book of Revelation Was Actually Based on Astrology?
Talk about confusion! Geeish, here is the truth...
An Irishman in a wheelchair rolls into a bar and asks the waitress for a cup of coffee. He then looks over at the bar and asks the waitress, "Is that Jesus?" The waitress says that it is, so the Irishman says, "Give him a cup of coffee... I'll pay."
A few minutes later, an Englishman with a humped back walks in and asks the waitress for a cup of tea. He then asks the waitress, "Hey... is that Jesus over there?" The waitress nods and so the Englishman says, "Give 'im a cup of tea... on me."
A few minutes later, a Hillbilly walks in on a pair of crutches. He says, "Hey, sweet thang... how's 'bout an ice-cold coke. Holy smokes... is that Jesus?" The waitress says, "Sure is." So, the Hillbilly says, "Give the ol' boy a coke... put it on my tab."
Later, Jesus gets up to leave, walks over to the Irishman, touches him and says, "For your kindness, you are healed." The Irishman gets up out of his wheelchair and dances a jig out of the door.
Jesus walks over to the Englishman, touches him and says, "For your kindness, you are healed." The Englishman stretches out his back and does backflips out the door.
Jesus walks over to the Hillbilly. Then, the Hillbilly gets up, backs away, and says, "Stay away from me... I'm drawin' disability!"
Anonymous Coward User ID: 719688 7/6/2009 6:12 PM
Re: What Would Happen To Religion If The Book of Revelation Was Actually Based on Astrology?
First of all the majority of religions don't recognize the book of revelations as it is a Christian scripture. However, where they recognize it or not - what will be will be!
IMHO, the bible as a whole is full of astrology and many research it from that point of view, however, in doing so, many miss the core message as Jesus pointed out and hence, they don't fully benefit from their efforts.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 718235 7/6/2009 6:22 PM
Re: What Would Happen To Religion If The Book of Revelation Was Actually Based on Astrology?
First of all the majority of religions don't recognize the book of revelations as it is a Christian scripture. However, where they recognize it or not - what will be will be!
IMHO, the bible as a whole is full of astrology and many research it from that point of view, however, in doing so, many miss the core message as Jesus pointed out and hence, they don't fully benefit from their efforts.
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