ZETA TALK

Its a money making and attention grabbing scheme of a lonely haus frau.

Why not ask Nancy Lieder?

It's a crackpot old woman spewing nonsense.

I believe from what I hear (not being cool enough to be in the Zeta or Debunker gangs) she recieves messages via Starburst candy wrappers rom an alien intelligence.

Verify?

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ZetaTalk: Source
Note: written Jan 15, 2002

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Nancy is frequently asked the source of her information, which is ourselves. This has been explained, repeatedly, and is well documented on the ZetaTalk web site. Nancy is a contactee, who has volunteered to be a communicator during these troubled times. She volunteered before birth, her spirit volunteering, and has had no problems during this incarnation with her mission. To enhance her ability to understand the concepts we are presenting, she allowed herself to be modified in her late 20's with a bit of our brain tissue, DNA compatible with hers, which allows her to better receive our telepathic communications. The portion of her brain thus modified affects only telepathic communications, so Nancy is otherwise herself. Thus, the source of her information is, truly, us, none other.

As her source, we have provided what soon became known as ZetaTalk, of world renown. The information relayed by us is sometimes foreign to Nancy, sometimes familiar. She was introduced to the concept of radical Earth changes, but not the date. This was revealed to her during ZetaTalk, as 2003, [Note: see 2003 Date explanation] a surprise to her as well as others. We kept this as a surprise to her so that she could function normally in the world she had to live in until her mid-50's. ZetaTalk Accuracy is also something not planned by Nancy, as she simply relays what we communicate and, as she says, "jumps off the cliff". She has no way of knowing if this is correct or not, and having put her life and livelihood at risk, she just trusts.

Why should humans trust ZetaTalk, when so many other channels or claims are speaking at odds with it? Nancy is not religious in her trust, or ours in hers. We have known each other for many incarnations, and have a long track record with each other. Religions ask for faith without any basis, demand it, often, and thus have less basis for trust than between team members. We predict, and our predictions can be tracked. Sources that do not so predict cannot be determined to be anything but disinformation or hot air. Are we the Devil, leading you astray? Is your best friend doing so, or your mother, or your government? How do you determine that? You balance what is being said against what you know, and make a determination. In the case of ourselves, via ZetaTalk, you must do the same.

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ZetaTalk: Communications
Note: written Sep 15, 1995.

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Our emissary, Nancy, allowed her brain to be implanted with Zetan genetic material, on more than one occasion, in preparation for her role as a communicator during the Transformation. Such procedures, done by us, do not put the contactee at risk of injury or infection. We work in completely sterile environments and through the use of what you might call a growth hormone, stimulate the body to heal within minutes. Nancy's head was opened - the scalp was pulled back, a bone plate pulled up on one side, and material implanted into sites deep within her brain by an infusion technique that works on the molecular level so that no brain cells are damaged during the procedure. As Nancy’s telepathic communication center was enhanced during her 20’s, she also began to receive more communications from her fellow humans. As she did not allow herself to realize that she was a contactee until her mid-50's, this put some 3 decades of enhanced telepathic communications with humans into her consciousness, before she realized why this came about. We will let Nancy tell you the contactee's side of the story.

Begin Nancy's Hypnotic Recall
The first time they picked me up they were checking out the top of my head, bent my head down and looked at the top of my head. When they put the stuff in my forehead, whatever they did, it hurt. I don't know what they did to the forehead, but it hurt so that I didn't want to talk about forest and trees and stuff like that any longer. I couldn't concentrate on those things any longer because it hurt enough that it was distracting me. Dull ache on my forehead. But they were definitely checking out the top of my head, and they did the same thing at the berry patch. They were turning my head. If you tipped it back you could see my forehead in the sunlight. But when they first picked me up they had their hands all over my head, sizing it, was the way I would put it. So, I'm just going to concentrate on my head, and think if there was anything that was ever done.

I can feel the pain. I can feel the pain right here, and a feeling of pressure on either side. Pressure. Let me think now. And taking my breath in short breaths, like gasp-a, gasp-a. Like that. Like your chest is tight. A very bright room. Sitting in something that's more like a reclining lounge chair, maybe like the dentist's chair, that type of thing. I think that my head was in a brace, around the chin, and my arms were down, sort of into my lap, almost in some kind of armrest. I think they've got little snap things. They don't completely close, like hand cuffs, but they just partly close. They're around the bone structure enough that you couldn't pull your arm away. One here by the elbow and one here down by the wrist, more up on the forearm, maybe another one on the thick of it, up above the elbow, but definitely the two below. I don't think my feet are restrained at all, but my knees are slightly bent. There wouldn't be much I could do with them anyway, in that position.

Then someone's saying, "Don't think about it." They're saying, "You won't remember this. You're not supposed to. This is for your own good, so we can talk to you." I'm trying to think how old I am. I keep thinking I'm in my twenties. "Just lay there now." I think I'm sort of trembling all over, just because it was a very nerve racking experience. This is not like a spasm trembling, just that I'm trembling all over. I feel pale and very shaky. Someone pats me on the hand, something like that. I'm thinking, "What was that all about?" One of them bends down and is looking at me eye-ball to eye-ball. The eye contact thing. It's like he's checking out my reactions, my facial reactions, because they're looking at my eyes. But he seems satisfied at what he sees. I'm not trembling any more now. There seems to be three or four of them in the room. They're the big ones. I think there's one little one in the room. There's three or four of these larger guys. They're as big as me or larger than me, not smaller than me. There's a counter around this chair in the center of this room.

I'm saying, "What was that all about? What was that all about!" I'm slightly angry. I would say, "What was that all about!" That type of thing. They're all sitting and looking at me now, at my face. One of them is kind of sitting on the edge of this lounge thing, and the other is kind of leaning over. I have three faces looking at me, about a foot and a half away. They're all just staring at my facial expression, but they don't seem to show any alarm. They're not asking me how I feel or anything like that. I think one of them says that I should move my arms and legs around, and see if I can do it OK. I do kind of wiggle things. They ask me if I, "Feel like going to the bathroom," or anything like that, and I say, "No." In other words, do I have an urge, an uncontrollable urge or feel like I'm about to lose it. I know that means something neurological. "Feel sick to my stomach?" "No." "Hurt any where?" "No."

I say, "What did you do?" I'm getting no comment back. "What was that for?" They're just not communicating anything. They say something about, "This is so you'll think about the universe more," or something like that, and, "We know you like that. And this is so we can talk to you." I look at their mouths when they say that. I'm thinking, because you don't talk that way. I guess I say, "So now what." "Now you will be free to think more about the universe," or something like that. I'll be, "More free," I'll feel more inclined and less restrained.
End Nancy's Hypnotic Recall

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ZetaTalk: Why Nancy?
Note: written Jul 15, 1997.

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Of course, we and others speak through a number of conduits. Many but not all channels are valid, and some of these on occasion carry our voice. Nancy edits our words but also contributes to the content by suggesting points we have failed to cover. Nancy is unique as to her telepathic communications, though many others, seeing the success of ZetaTalk, have asked for this. It is not so much her body, or her IQ, or her age or location that determined our decision to accept Nancy's offer. She has other qualities, missing in others, and in abundance in Nancy - courage, the ability to stand up to Service-to-Self methods, absolutely, and a track record in this regard that allowed us to trust her with this mission. She has more than satisfied our expectations. Nancy is also unique because she has placed herself at great risk.

Nancy entered into an unlimited engagement with MJ12 in order to further certain goals. It was her perception that MJ12 was a highly cautious organization, and would not act or move on matters of concern to her unless they were guaranteed utmost control. She gave them that control by granting them, in essence, the ability to execute her should they deem that necessary. For those unfamiliar with what an unlimited engagement is, this is outlined in the Rules section of ZetaTalk where the rules whereby alien groups of different orientations engage. In essence, it is a no-holds-barred engagement, unlimited, so that such an engagement bound Nancy for life. Of course, it also bound the old MJ12 for their life, and when this arm of the government ceased to have official status, her engagement was at an end too. They too, as an organization, could and did die.

Between alien groups of differing orientations, an unlimited engagement means that the groups engaged can savage each other, without bounds, or manipulate circumstances, without censure, until the matter at issue is settled and beyond. Such engagements are extremely rare, and normally do not involve groups, but rather individuals or dedicated teams. Within the Service-to-Other groups, such teams have resigned themselves to death at a minimum, and more often to experiences worse than death, in order to secure their goal. These are suicide missions, and Nancy understood the risk she was under when she engaged MJ12. Several other humans had done so, and only one besides Nancy lives today. The others died at the hands of what was then the predominant CIA influence over MJ12, brutally.

Because we, the Zetas, operate under the Rules of Engagement, we honored the unlimited engagement that Nancy entered into with MJ12. Thus, if MJ12 wanted to meet with her, she was picked up and delivered to them by us, just as we would haved delivered one of our own to engage the Service-to-Self they had engaged, even if this meant the death of a friend and cohort. Nancy survived by her wits and passion for truth and justice, and an almost uncanny ability to sense those members of MJ12 who are strongly Service-to-Others. She made allies, and swayed agendas, and argued alternatives, so that many programs operating on automatic came under question and were changed. These are matters neither she nor ourselves, the Service-to-Other Zetas, can discuss in detail.

Thus, just as we engaged the old MJ12 in a limited engagement in the hope of making alliances for the better, and just as we gave this old MJ12 a travel service without censure or comment from us in the hope of getting beyond their deep need for control, just so Nancy went into an unlimited engagement and likewise gave them complete control over her life, should that be deemed necessary. They did not control Nancy, her thoughts and words and opinions, they simply held a death sentence they could implement any time they wished, instantly.

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Hope that helps. Check out [link to www.zetatalk.com] for more information if this interests you.

I'm not telling you to believe it. You'll have to decide that for yourself. I'm just giving you the link because you seemed curious.

Lot of stuff there about MJ12.
Is this the Majestic 12?

If you can find even one single instance of any of Nancy's predictions or claims in all of ZT that have actually come true...with verifiable sources not from Nancy's web site itself, then you've done better than all of her followers so far. They have been challenged for years and have failed miserably to find even one example of truth in all of it.

Desperate for followers Nancy? Ailing cult needs fresh blood?

Thank you.

Interested in the Majestic 12? Here are some links, to get you started. It might be a long read but I hope you will find it a fascinating one!


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If you want to waste your life reading a lot of nonsense made-up by a deranged old woman with a massive ego ZetaTalk is certainly the site for you.

I'm actually familar with the Majestic 12, I squandered a year or two in my youth on that subject.
That's why I asked.
I'm just a little surprised to see it connected with the whole zeta thing.

You're welcome!

ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders.

Well, not really. Watch her videos on youtube. nancylieder channel

Zetatalk is the voices in the head of a senile, delusional old woman seeking attention any way she can.

It wouldn't be a thread concerning ZetaTalk without the Commonhater. Hi Commonhater! How are you doing tonight? I bet you can't wait to storm the live chats again soon! How's that boycott working for ya?

Working better for me than it is for the rancid socks, foul mouthed creeps, cretins, mouth breathing shills and village idiots that populate the thread now.

Last Edited by The Commentator on 07/12/2009 01:33 AM

Nibiru was absolutely, positively supposed to be here in May 2003 but it broke down at a truck stop on the Pennsylvania Turnpike and hasn't been seen since.

But couldn't,even the zetas be off on there predictions,it still could be all true,just not anytime soon?

Can the zetas be trusted?WHY SHOULD THEY BE ANY DIFFERENT,than the rest of the"aliens"who do nothen but talk as well.

Maby we should all start shopping around,we need to know if that all their going to do?Maby its time for some action.

For me im tired of the "talkers"telling me how im going to meet my end.

Oh No! I'm scared of the aliens! What should I do? Everyone is being abducted and alien fetus' are falling from the sky!

is this talk somthing we can all do?

And does it take long to learn?


Can the zetas talk english,a language that we could at least have a comon ground as it were?

If we decide to go with the zetas,and we don't like it here anymore,can and will the zetas come through with some form of transportation or means to go else where,since were screwed here?

And,just one more if i may,Can the zetas,through their talk,talk to anyother"factions"like space comand.Imean can't these guys,blow plant x out of the sky?And if they casn't,surly there must be someone out there in the vast universe of space that can blow that thing out of the sky?

How Nancy fouynd "zetas"

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Nancy explains how the Zetas convinced her to quit her job and move to Wisconsin :

..."But I'll tell you about a moaning/groaning begging-for-a-sign time when I was first deciding to make the moves I've done these past couple years. I'm getting up there, 60, not strong, not financially anything but on the edge, and my family (except for one person) is not supportive of what I do. So I wanted a SOLID SIGN from the Zetas before I burned bridges and moved to Wisco and all. "Give me a sign!!!""

"So, I had a visitation from Pumpkin heads (the big guys, see Zeta Types in Worlds) and they told me that when I went into my office I'd find the MUFON mags turned face down, not up as usual, and that would be my sign. So I went in, all excited, and they were face up. Got hysterical. Another visitation, and they said "this is why we don't give signs on demand! If they go wrong, or are perceived wrong, hysterics, etc." So I understood, not on demand. A week later I'm in a movie house, alone, trying to relax, and get the sense that a Zeta came in and sat beside me, and I'd find a candy wrapper in my pocket or some such. I was eating Star Bursts, glued shut cardboard box, welded plastic wrapper around individually wrapped pieces. You have to break your fingernails to get the candy, practially. So I'm eating along and get to the last piece. It's not individually wrapped in wax paper. Now, EVERY Star Burst is so wrapped, by machine, I have no doubt. So, I figured that was my sign, when I wasn't expecting it."

(tt-watch October 17, 2000)
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as it was explained on ZetaTalk website and on Live Chats here and as Nancy explained on numerous interviews (Earth Frenzy Radio etc), it happens like this:

Nancy reads the Q asked, Zetas read her mind, her understanding of the Q, and then Zetas communicate to her their telepathic answer in form of visions, concepts, no words. she thinks of the best English words to wrap around these to relay to the questioner and whole audience.

she does not hear any voice, no words, just concepts suddenly popping up in her head - this is how telepathy works.

take a link with June 17 interview, theres about this there:
[link to www.blogtalkradio.com]

download and listen!

Last Edited by andrew on 07/12/2009 04:26 AM

i doubt we all can talk to zeta's, i would guess that it's more like a gift. she has open consciousness or something.

they communicate telepathically, with implanted thoughts, so you would think in your own language. i dont think their voices are capable of the pronunciation, i have heard its a very high pitched sound.

i think it is safe to say if that scenario came about, they would provide transportation.

as for planet x, you cant just go blowing planets out of the universe. Earth needs these changes, they are a part of nature. Worst Case Scenario; Planet X kills us all, then we go to heaven. You must know that your body is temporary, but You, are forever.