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Holy Christ...

This is so fucked up!
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wtf This goes waaay too far, i disagree with all of it.
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All I'm saying is that I agree, in principle, that people should not be allowed to have children willy nilly. I have not commented on this particular proposal.

I know that it's a comedy and not something to be taken seriously but in parts of England "Idiocracy" is pretty much coming true and that's really, really scary.

There's kids being brought into this world with no hope and no future, no love and no positive role models. Who just drink and steal and beat people up and produce more kids with no future because that's all they can do and all they know how to do.

Question: Do you think it would be wrong to *reversably* sterilize these people until they are financially secure and can demonstrate that they can provide a stable and loving home for their children.

If not, why.
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Holy Christ...

This is so fucked up!
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Yup.

Take the link : [link to zombietime.com]
and send it to ever one you can. I mean this is not science fiction, these are the guys behind the wheel of this train wreck ready to happen.

Remember they where just talking about banning bottled water...
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I cannot believe that this is not pinned.
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was thinking the same thing -
mandarin caught with his pants down isn't pinworthy ?
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WHAT A NUTFUCK HE IS, WE NEED NEW PLANET MANAGMENT, THATS ALL, ANYONE SPEWING OVERPOPULATION IS A NUTTER
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It's common sense, absolutely, but it'll never happen. Atleast not in our lifetimes.

Do you really think that ANYONE should be able to as many kids as they want to?

You have to take tests and exams or have a license to do just about anything these days. Do you think it's right that you have to have lessons and pass an exam to own a car but absolutely anyone can have a child?

Having a child is the biggest thing someone could possibly do. It's huge and important, you're bringing a new life into the world and shaping it.

Now kids are having kids when they can barely manage to look after themselves.
Drug addicts are having kids and neglecting them.
The destitute are having kids that they can't afford to look after, that they don't even really want. They raise little terrors who become just like their parents only worse.
 Quoting: FamilyPlanning 712100



A truly compassionate view.
Thank you for expressing it so clearly.

If it doesnt happen in our lifetimes NATURE will assuredly FIX IT HER WAY !

There is NOTHING sadder than an unwanted child

There is NOTHING more harshly programmed for FAILURE than a child that is a burden to one or both parents
and is made to feel so and/or ABUSED by having been born to emotionally dysfunctional parent(s).


THIS is the fretilized egg from which future
TYRANTS sprout


imrpegenated by existing TYRANNY which sees sex as dirty and women as breeders, even in this new century.


ALL pregnancies must be planned well in advance and ONLY those who have resources and support teams/families allowed to reproduce.

Education provided for all ACCORDING to their skills
so they grow up to be productive and self respecting
contributing to the WHOLE.

a guaranteed college education at taxpayer expense is wasted on most who would enjoy earning from a skill more so than being promoted by bean counting to positions they dont have any talent or inclination for in the first instance and thereby fall into
LACK of self respect !.


Penetration sex needs to be taught as a taboo for any male/female under age 25 and not in a legally/contracturaly bound supportive family system.


lets get with the NATURAL flow and save our species

OR

breed all humanity out of existence in pursuit of orgasms.






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It's common sense, absolutely, but it'll never happen. Atleast not in our lifetimes.

Do you really think that ANYONE should be able to as many kids as they want to?

You have to take tests and exams or have a license to do just about anything these days. Do you think it's right that you have to have lessons and pass an exam to own a car but absolutely anyone can have a child?

Having a child is the biggest thing someone could possibly do. It's huge and important, you're bringing a new life into the world and shaping it.

Now kids are having kids when they can barely manage to look after themselves.
Drug addicts are having kids and neglecting them.
The destitute are having kids that they can't afford to look after, that they don't even really want. They raise little terrors who become just like their parents only worse.



A truly compassionate view.
Thank you for expressing it so clearly.

If it doesnt happen in our lifetimes NATURE will assuredly FIX IT HER WAY !

There is NOTHING sadder than an unwanted child

There is NOTHING more harshly programmed for FAILURE than a child that is a burden to one or both parents
and is made to feel so and/or ABUSED by having been born to emotionally dysfunctional parent(s).


THIS is the fretilized egg from which future
TYRANTS sprout


imrpegenated by existing TYRANNY which sees sex as dirty and women as breeders, even in this new century.


ALL pregnancies must be planned well in advance and ONLY those who have resources and support teams/families allowed to reproduce.

Education provided for all ACCORDING to their skills
so they grow up to be productive and self respecting
contributing to the WHOLE.

a guaranteed college education at taxpayer expense is wasted on most who would enjoy earning from a skill more so than being promoted by bean counting to positions they dont have any talent or inclination for in the first instance and thereby fall into
LACK of self respect !.


Penetration sex needs to be taught as a taboo for any male/female under age 25 and not in a legally/contracturaly bound supportive family system.


lets get with the NATURAL flow and save our species

OR

breed all humanity out of existence in pursuit of orgasms.






:4:
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In a way I find that I do not entirely disagree with you. I have not fathered any children as of yet. You see you and I would call it fathering and not simply getting a women pregnant, they are two different things to be sure.

If the Gov is so concerned why did they not put more into public education regarding reproductive responsibility? They sunk billion and trillions of dollars into research and development of mass communication and population control manipulation you think that they would have used it towards "education" re this matter.

But what do we see today in the mass media. SEX, SEX, SEX! Sex every where! Music, Music Videos, Mags, billboards, radio, Internet, books even in cartoons! It is ever where.

Corporate America has exacerbated the lusts of the people via a new paradigm that encourages people to be oversexed consumers, consuming the products that will make them better sexually and keep them in a constant state of being emotional anchored to sensuality visa via the products and advertisements that literally surround us 24 hours a day.

I would like to remind you that it is the Gov who regulates and licenses corps that have flamed the passions and lusts of the people, and could have very well pulled in the reigns on them.

I am not fooled, I see the Devil in the plan and I would hope all of you would too. This situation was created, and it was created for the sole purpose to perpetrate what ma very soon befall the people.

This has nothing to do about un wanted pregnancy, nice try and shame on you for trying to emotionally manipulate the readers! This is about power, and how to take it plain and simple.

I agree that it would be best if some did not have children, but this is not about what they are about. This is about crippling people with out there knowledge by spiking their drinking water! Plain and simple!
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I cannot believe that this is not pinned.

was thinking the same thing -
mandarin caught with his pants down isn't pinworthy ?
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It seems this is funny video day, who knows what's going on.
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The problem with the governments funding re: sex education is that their sex education programs are deeply flawed, "abstinence only" and don't teach people anything. They just tell them to not do it.

The fact is people are animals and will always want to have sex. Pledges and promise rings don't mean a thing.

Because people aren't actually taught about sex silly myths and ideas popup. You can't get pregnant if you stand ontop of a phone book, etc.
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No not really. You are (purposly) taking it out of context.
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No not really. You are (purposly) taking it out of context.
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Who me?
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No not really. You are (purposly) taking it out of context.

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You, quite obviously, have neither read the evidence presented at the link nor paid attention in your grammar class.

BUMP

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'This is OUR Republic, FFS' PIN BUMP

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'This is OUR Republic, FFS' PIN BUMP

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Freaky that more here do not get it.....


"Individual rights. Individual rights must be balanced against the power of the government to control human reproduction.... neither the Declaration of Independence nor the Constitution mentions a right to reproduce."

SLAVERY!!!

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It's common sense, absolutely, but it'll never happen. Atleast not in our lifetimes.

Do you really think that ANYONE should be able to as many kids as they want to?

You have to take tests and exams or have a license to do just about anything these days. Do you think it's right that you have to have lessons and pass an exam to own a car but absolutely anyone can have a child?

Having a child is the biggest thing someone could possibly do. It's huge and important, you're bringing a new life into the world and shaping it.

Now kids are having kids when they can barely manage to look after themselves.
Drug addicts are having kids and neglecting them.
The destitute are having kids that they can't afford to look after, that they don't even really want. They raise little terrors who become just like their parents only worse.
 Quoting: FamilyPlanning 712100


I agree with you. All my life I've said perhaps parents should pass a test before they can have babies and start a family.

World population is the most serious problem our planet faces. We really must find a way to SLOW down growth rate... to save the planet. 3 countries already recognize this problem, China, Kenya, and 1 other.
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OP is once again shoveling someone's bullshit propaganda.

So lets see, 30 years ago he was one of 3 people that wrote about ecological issues. In the 'book' they wrote, there are sections that talk about what could or should be done if population growth got to the point of threatening ALL OF SOCIETY. The recommendations were extreme and very much in the realm of theory - since it was, once again, based on the premise of what to do if over-population became a threat to our entire society.

And now someone with an agenda is spinning this to make it sound like he strongly advocated that these things should be done, that he just casually said 'Sure - lets start a eugenics program, cause it would be FUN', with or without the threat to ALL OF SOCIETY that they CLEARLY wrote was a premise of there suppositions. It is simply a disgrace that people allow themselves to be so easily taken in by this kind of manufactured fear mongering. You believe this crap, so you rally around a lie and volunteer your time for someone else's profit. Pathetic.

My advice OP - do a little research before you shovel other people's shit. Don't help destroy America because you are too fucking lazy to think for yourself.
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It's common sense, absolutely, but it'll never happen. Atleast not in our lifetimes.

Do you really think that ANYONE should be able to as many kids as they want to?

You have to take tests and exams or have a license to do just about anything these days. Do you think it's right that you have to have lessons and pass an exam to own a car but absolutely anyone can have a child?

Having a child is the biggest thing someone could possibly do. It's huge and important, you're bringing a new life into the world and shaping it.

Now kids are having kids when they can barely manage to look after themselves.
Drug addicts are having kids and neglecting them.
The destitute are having kids that they can't afford to look after, that they don't even really want. They raise little terrors who become just like their parents only worse.



A truly compassionate view.
Thank you for expressing it so clearly.

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In a way I find that I do not entirely disagree with you. I have not fathered any children as of yet. You see you and I would call it fathering and not simply getting a women pregnant, they are two different things to be sure.

If the Gov is so concerned why did they not put more into public education regarding reproductive responsibility? They sunk billion and trillions of dollars into research and development of mass communication and population control manipulation you think that they would have used it towards "education" re this matter.

But what do we see today in the mass media. SEX, SEX, SEX! Sex every where! Music, Music Videos, Mags, billboards, radio, Internet, books even in cartoons! It is ever where.

Corporate America has exacerbated the lusts of the people via a new paradigm that encourages people to be oversexed consumers, consuming the products that will make them better sexually and keep them in a constant state of being emotional anchored to sensuality visa via the products and advertisements that literally surround us 24 hours a day.

I would like to remind you that it is the Gov who regulates and licenses corps that have flamed the passions and lusts of the people, and could have very well pulled in the reigns on them.

I am not fooled, I see the Devil in the plan and I would hope all of you would too. This situation was created, and it was created for the sole purpose to perpetrate what ma very soon befall the people.

This has nothing to do about un wanted pregnancy, nice try and shame on you for trying to emotionally manipulate the readers! This is about power, and how to take it plain and simple.

I agree that it would be best if some did not have children, but this is not about what they are about. This is about crippling people with out there knowledge by spiking their drinking water! Plain and simple!
 Quoting: II-Neutron




please go to the root cause of this issue which is
TYRANNY it must self perpetuate

there is your POWER core

to do so means to keep the people focused on sexual activities 24/7 as by so doing the social structure is a sex ruled one and begets the cannon fodder to continue the ceaseless wars and get rid of the best and finest so the controllers get the cream of the young and pretty and all women are kept subservient so it is easy for the TYRANTS to get women and young girls to acquiesce to whatever.

when you can see it from that point of simplicity
all the other reasons and causes FALL INTO PLACE.

it is NOT in the interests of the PTB to educate people to FAMILY PLANNING but it IS in the best interests of the PTB to create children without families and secure homes so they can easily get them into the MILITARY!

the FIRST ISM

was SEXISM so the implementers of ISMS could create shame, guilt, fear and SUBMISSION.



only balancing the M/F energies can stop this insanity and strat cleaning up our planet.

hf
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Good question.
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I posted this already and not only did it not get pinned but the new Communism is the plague around here!

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By the way AJ talked about this for his entire Sunday show but the book came out 31 years ago!

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It's common sense, absolutely, but it'll never happen. Atleast not in our lifetimes.

Do you really think that ANYONE should be able to as many kids as they want to?

You have to take tests and exams or have a license to do just about anything these days. Do you think it's right that you have to have lessons and pass an exam to own a car but absolutely anyone can have a child?

Having a child is the biggest thing someone could possibly do. It's huge and important, you're bringing a new life into the world and shaping it.

Now kids are having kids when they can barely manage to look after themselves.
Drug addicts are having kids and neglecting them.
The destitute are having kids that they can't afford to look after, that they don't even really want. They raise little terrors who become just like their parents only worse.



A truly compassionate view.
Thank you for expressing it so clearly.

snip
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;





In a way I find that I do not entirely disagree with you. I have not fathered any children as of yet. You see you and I would call it fathering and not simply getting a women pregnant, they are two different things to be sure.

If the Gov is so concerned why did they not put more into public education regarding reproductive responsibility? They sunk billion and trillions of dollars into research and development of mass communication and population control manipulation you think that they would have used it towards "education" re this matter.

But what do we see today in the mass media. SEX, SEX, SEX! Sex every where! Music, Music Videos, Mags, billboards, radio, Internet, books even in cartoons! It is ever where.

Corporate America has exacerbated the lusts of the people via a new paradigm that encourages people to be oversexed consumers, consuming the products that will make them better sexually and keep them in a constant state of being emotional anchored to sensuality visa via the products and advertisements that literally surround us 24 hours a day.

I would like to remind you that it is the Gov who regulates and licenses corps that have flamed the passions and lusts of the people, and could have very well pulled in the reigns on them.

I am not fooled, I see the Devil in the plan and I would hope all of you would too. This situation was created, and it was created for the sole purpose to perpetrate what ma very soon befall the people.

This has nothing to do about un wanted pregnancy, nice try and shame on you for trying to emotionally manipulate the readers! This is about power, and how to take it plain and simple.

I agree that it would be best if some did not have children, but this is not about what they are about. This is about crippling people with out there knowledge by spiking their drinking water! Plain and simple!




please go to the root cause of this issue which is
TYRANNY it must self perpetuate

there is your POWER core

to do so means to keep the people focused on sexual activities 24/7 as by so doing the social structure is a sex ruled one and begets the cannon fodder to continue the ceaseless wars and get rid of the best and finest so the controllers get the cream of the young and pretty and all women are kept subservient so it is easy for the TYRANTS to get women and young girls to acquiesce to whatever.

when you can see it from that point of simplicity
all the other reasons and causes FALL INTO PLACE.

it is NOT in the interests of the PTB to educate people to FAMILY PLANNING but it IS in the best interests of the PTB to create children without families and secure homes so they can easily get them into the MILITARY!

the FIRST ISM

was SEXISM so the implementers of ISMS could create shame, guilt, fear and SUBMISSION.



only balancing the M/F energies can stop this insanity and strat cleaning up our planet.

hf
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hf
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It's common sense, absolutely, but it'll never happen. Atleast not in our lifetimes.

Do you really think that ANYONE should be able to as many kids as they want to?

You have to take tests and exams or have a license to do just about anything these days. Do you think it's right that you have to have lessons and pass an exam to own a car but absolutely anyone can have a child?

Having a child is the biggest thing someone could possibly do. It's huge and important, you're bringing a new life into the world and shaping it.

Now kids are having kids when they can barely manage to look after themselves.
Drug addicts are having kids and neglecting them.
The destitute are having kids that they can't afford to look after, that they don't even really want. They raise little terrors who become just like their parents only worse.



A truly compassionate view.
Thank you for expressing it so clearly.

If it doesnt happen in our lifetimes NATURE will assuredly FIX IT HER WAY !

There is NOTHING sadder than an unwanted child

There is NOTHING more harshly programmed for FAILURE than a child that is a burden to one or both parents
and is made to feel so and/or ABUSED by having been born to emotionally dysfunctional parent(s).


THIS is the fretilized egg from which future
TYRANTS sprout


imrpegenated by existing TYRANNY which sees sex as dirty and women as breeders, even in this new century.


ALL pregnancies must be planned well in advance and ONLY those who have resources and support teams/families allowed to reproduce.

Education provided for all ACCORDING to their skills
so they grow up to be productive and self respecting
contributing to the WHOLE.

a guaranteed college education at taxpayer expense is wasted on most who would enjoy earning from a skill more so than being promoted by bean counting to positions they dont have any talent or inclination for in the first instance and thereby fall into
LACK of self respect !.


Penetration sex needs to be taught as a taboo for any male/female under age 25 and not in a legally/contracturaly bound supportive family system.


lets get with the NATURAL flow and save our species

OR

breed all humanity out of existence in pursuit of orgasms.






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OP is once again shoveling someone's bullshit propaganda.

So lets see, 30 years ago he was one of 3 people that wrote about ecological issues. In the 'book' they wrote, there are sections that talk about what could or should be done if population growth got to the point of threatening ALL OF SOCIETY. The recommendations were extreme and very much in the realm of theory - since it was, once again, based on the premise of what to do if over-population became a threat to our entire society.

And now someone with an agenda is spinning this to make it sound like he strongly advocated that these things should be done, that he just casually said 'Sure - lets start a eugenics program, cause it would be FUN', with or without the threat to ALL OF SOCIETY that they CLEARLY wrote was a premise of there suppositions. It is simply a disgrace that people allow themselves to be so easily taken in by this kind of manufactured fear mongering. You believe this crap, so you rally around a lie and volunteer your time for someone else's profit. Pathetic.

My advice OP - do a little research before you shovel other people's shit. Don't help destroy America because you are too fucking lazy to think for yourself.
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You sound like you caught me doing something unethical, and or subversive, but all I am doing is sharing with you the published facts! This is not an exaggeration or a hoax. In fact go here ( [link to www.ilab.org] to get a copy of the book yourself should you so choose. As well I assure you the author of the book and John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar are one and the same person!

No one here is getting a dime, who's to profit from this?

Nice try, but you fail to derail the facts.
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I don't know if this is posted here yet. I found an on-line version of it.
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I posted this already and not only did it not get pinned but the new Communism is the plague around here!

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By the way AJ talked about this for his entire Sunday show but the book came out 31 years ago!
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Thanks Cranky, I did not have the chance to see your post and I came across this work today and posted what I found. Weird that the this was/is not pinned. If ever there was a reason to think a group was conspiring......

For the nay sayers the book is right here: [link to www.ilab.org]
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I don't know if this is posted here yet. I found an on-line version of it.
[link to www.questia.com]
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Excellent, thanks! :-)
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Opps! I went to read some more of the text on that link and it doesn't seem to be the complete text after all.
It is a real book though and glancing about the pages that are available, you can see that the OP is correct.
Heart of the heroes, ride.
Up through an empty house of stars,
Being what heart you are,
Up the inhuman steeps of space
As on a staircase go in grace,
Carrying the firelight on your face
Beyond the loneliest star.
"The Ballad Of The White Horse,"
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