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Arkansas State Health Department: Mandatory Vaccines Are Constitutional

 
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Legal council tells concerned caller that American citizens must accept enforced shot in event of mass swine flu vaccination program

A member of the public who was concerned about a mandatory mass vaccination program in light of the swine flu pandemic called the Arkansas State Health Department for advice only to be told that mandatory vaccines were constitutional and could be enforced at gunpoint by the government if necessary.

The editor of the popular blog “Pissed Off Former Democrat” phoned the legal council at the Arkansas State Health Department to seek advice about obtaining waiver forms for a future mass swine flu vaccination program.

One of his main concerns centered around the fact that the company chosen to mass produce the swine flu vaccine, Baxter International, were recently caught in a scandal after it emerged they had sent out vaccines contaminated with the H5N1 avian flu virus to 18 countries from their Austrian branch. It was only by providence that the contamination was found after the batch was first tested on ferrets in the Czech Republic, before being shipped out for injection into humans. The ferrets all died and the shocking discovery was made.

Some Czech newspapers speculated at the time that Baxter was embroiled in a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic from which it would reap billions in profits from producing the vaccine to counter a bird flu outbreak.

As we have previously covered, the last time the government ordered a mass vaccination drive in response to a swine flu outbreak, the program had to be stopped short after the shots caused over 500 cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a severe paralyzing nerve disease. 30 people died as a direct result of the vaccinations.

During the phone conversation, the legal council discusses the potential of a future mandatory swine flu vaccination program and states, “That’s constitutional, there’s no doubt about it….mandatory vaccinations are legal under the Supreme Court….absolutely.”

The caller responds, “I’m an American and I have a legal right to make my own decision whether or not someone sticks a needle in me,” to which the legal council responds, “That’s not true….no.”

“As a lawyer you believe that I don’t have the right to deny a vaccination,” asks the caller,” to which the legal council responds, “Absolutely….I don’t know why you have a problem with that….mandatory vaccines are constitutional,” adding that it doesn’t matter about personal or religious objections.

The caller then asks how the mandatory vaccine would be enforced by law, “for example somebody sticking a gun in my face,” to which the legal council responds, “you could be held liable.”

The legal council at the Arkansas State Health Department cites the 1905 Supreme Court case of Jacobson v Massachusetts to argue that governments can force citizens to take vaccines.

Less than 50 years before, in Dred Scott v. Sandford, the Supreme Court also ruled that black people were slaves - property of their slaveowners with no inherent rights whatsoever.

22 years after Jacobson v Mass., in Buck v Bell, the Supreme Court also ruled that people designated “feeble-minded” by the government could be sterilized.

The fact that the Supreme Court made a ruling over 100 hundred years ago saying the government could inject people by force doesn’t make it morally or constitutionally justifiable.

To stick needles in people at gunpoint by government decree is blatantly unconstitutional under any reasonable definition of basic human rights or the freedoms enumerated by the founders in the constitution itself.

American Indians were rounded up and sent to death camps under legal orders, but that didn’t make it right or justifiable.

Hitler’s mistreatment of Jews, Gypsies, political dissidents, homosexuals and others who resisted government policies imposed during times of “emergency” in Nazi Germany was all perpetrated behind a thin veil of legality, but that didn’t make it right either.

As a member at the Prison Planet Forum points out, “Tyrannical evil loves to mask itself in the robes of righteousness, to justify itself with legal documents, to trample the very ideas of what Law and Right mean. Resisting that evil, rising against that tyranny, by saying No More. That is right.”

As we previously reported, Time Magazine has been preparing Americans to accept the idea of mandatory vaccinations, reporting on April 28th that a mass vaccination program is being readied to combat swine flu while also urging Americans to “trust that the government is working for the greater good” and to not resist draconian measures.
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Re: Arkansas State Health Department: Mandatory Vaccines Are Constitutional
courts decide what is and isn't constitutional. May have meant to say they were 'lawful'.
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they sure are and they are in the best interest of the public.

i'm not saying that mandatory vacs are going to happen but it wouldn't matter to me anyway because I will be first in line to get my shot.
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Not according to the Nuremburg Code. It has to be voluntary.
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Not according to the Nuremburg Code. It has to be voluntary.
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the US Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land in America not the Nuremberg Code and according to the constitution it is a matter for the states to decide which is why mandatory vacs is the most preposterous thing i've ever heard since loons pronounced 9/11 to be an inside job.

just more of the same anti freedom garbage spewed by fear mongers.
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As an Arizonan I say , FUCK THAT SHIT!


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they sure are and they are in the best interest of the public.

i'm not saying that mandatory vacs are going to happen but it wouldn't matter to me anyway because I will be first in line to get my shot.
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that's because your a sheep. Now get your head out of the sand, do more research and stand up for the future of the world.
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I beg to differ.
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they sure are and they are in the best interest of the public.

i'm not saying that mandatory vacs are going to happen but it wouldn't matter to me anyway because I will be first in line to get my shot.
 Quoting: THE LIGHT 718240

Google 1976 swine flu vaccine. This was a fiasco, thousands were injured & many died because of the vaccine.
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they sure are and they are in the best interest of the public.

i'm not saying that mandatory vacs are going to happen but it wouldn't matter to me anyway because I will be first in line to get my shot.

Google 1976 swine flu vaccine. This was a fiasco, thousands were injured & many died because of the vaccine.
 Quoting: mopar28m


i don't need to google anything I was alive in 76 and I got the vaccine.

h1n1 is more deadly than the 76' strain and its only gonna get worse that's why i'm getting the vaccine again.

anyone who is inciting fear has an obvious agenda but i am not drinking their "kool aid" and neither should you.
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I'm not drinking the Kool-aid, meaning I'm not getting the vaccine & neither is anyone else in our home.

It has been proven time & time again that vaccines don't vaccinate you against anything. The people who got sick & died from the 1918 pandemic were vaccinated.

Your best prevention from getting sick is to take plenty of Vitamin D3, this will build up your immune system.
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they sure are and they are in the best interest of the public.

i'm not saying that mandatory vacs are going to happen but it wouldn't matter to me anyway because I will be first in line to get my shot.
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I'm not going say that I will not get one, but I'm going to do my best to put it off to the bitter end ...
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They had flu vaccines in 1918? You sure?
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They had flu vaccines in 1918? You sure?
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Yes,

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I'm not drinking the Kool-aid, meaning I'm not getting the vaccine & neither is anyone else in our home.

It has been proven time & time again that vaccines don't vaccinate you against anything. The people who got sick & died from the 1918 pandemic were vaccinated.

Your best prevention from getting sick is to take plenty of Vitamin D3, this will build up your immune system.
 Quoting: mopar28m



lmao

either the company you work for lost out on the contract to create the vaccine or you're just hell bent on dying and taking as many people as you can with you.

i'm pretty confident it's the former but the best prevention from the h1n1 virus is the vaccine, point, blank, period.

anyone telling you otherwise is a fear monger and propagandist.
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well I'll be a monkees uncle, they did. That's amazing.
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I'm not drinking the Kool-aid, meaning I'm not getting the vaccine & neither is anyone else in our home.

It has been proven time & time again that vaccines don't vaccinate you against anything. The people who got sick & died from the 1918 pandemic were vaccinated.

Your best prevention from getting sick is to take plenty of Vitamin D3, this will build up your immune system.



lmao

either the company you work for lost out on the contract to create the vaccine or you're just hell bent on dying and taking as many people as you can with you.

i'm pretty confident it's the former but the best prevention from the h1n1 virus is the vaccine, point, blank, period.

anyone telling you otherwise is a fear monger and propagandist.
 Quoting: THE LIGHT 718240

I don't work for anyone related to the pharmaceutical industry. I'm just an outspoken apponent to the vaccine industry.
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Load the car, Tessa, we're getting the fuck out of here. Buncha hillbillies anyway.
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I don't work for anyone related to the pharmaceutical industry. I'm just an outspoken apponent to the vaccine industry.
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the med pharm industry basically runs France and they don't have nearly the amount of health problems Americans do.

why shun the things that might actually do you some good and promote an idea that will surely lead you to your grave early?
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I don't work for anyone related to the pharmaceutical industry. I'm just an outspoken apponent to the vaccine industry.



the med pharm industry basically runs France and they don't have nearly the amount of health problems Americans do.

why shun the things that might actually do you some good and promote an idea that will surely lead you to your grave early?
 Quoting: THE LIGHT 718240

Early grave? What about the thousands of children who have died because of vaccines? What about the thousands who have had ischemic strokes & other brain injuries because of vaccines? All 3 of my nieces are fully vaccinated & have numerous health problems - asthma, ear infections, pneumonia, horrible allergies. Neither one of my kids are vaccinated & they don't have any of those problems.

Have you seen the ingredients in vaccines? Antifreeze, formaldehyde, mercury, aluminum, etc. Mercury & aluminum accumulate in the brain causing damage. Here, take a look at the ingredients yourself.

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I'm not drinking the Kool-aid, meaning I'm not getting the vaccine & neither is anyone else in our home.

It has been proven time & time again that vaccines don't vaccinate you against anything. The people who got sick & died from the 1918 pandemic were vaccinated.

Your best prevention from getting sick is to take plenty of Vitamin D3, this will build up your immune system.



lmao

either the company you work for lost out on the contract to create the vaccine or you're just hell bent on dying and taking as many people as you can with you.

i'm pretty confident it's the former but the best prevention from the h1n1 virus is the vaccine, point, blank, period.

anyone telling you otherwise is a fear monger and propagandist.
 Quoting: THE LIGHT 718240

Hey, shill, stfu already. You still haven`t commented the 1976 events and the recent bird flu contaminated vaccines.

It`s your ridiculous bullshitting against pure&sinister facts. So again, stfubrick
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they can put vaccines on my dead body.
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h1n1 is more deadly than the 76' strain and its only gonna get worse that's why i'm getting the vaccine again.

anyone who is inciting fear has an obvious agenda but i am not drinking their "kool aid" and neither should you.
 Quoting: THE LIGHT 718240


You sound like an afraid animal
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I listened to the interview, and the speaker has no authority to declare constitutionality, so this is much ado about nothing.