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Chili Fries User ID: 663058 United States 07/15/2009 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is only the first step. They will do a whole lot more and ALL of it will be technically legal. Quoting: DruidThe Major made a horrible mistake. Worse, now he cannot take it back, not matter what he does. You know what? He didn't make a mistake at all. He did what is right. And it is too bad that people make a veiled attempt to support Obama and his illegal administration. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 725359 United States 07/15/2009 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is only the first step. They will do a whole lot more and ALL of it will be technically legal. Quoting: Chili Fries 663058The Major made a horrible mistake. Worse, now he cannot take it back, not matter what he does. You know what? He didn't make a mistake at all. He did what is right. And it is too bad that people make a veiled attempt to support Obama and his illegal administration. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 664208 United States 07/15/2009 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | didn't they use to shoot traitors like this? Quoting: mr...bojanglesHe is no traitor & deserves to be saluted unlike the forien fraud in office now! He signed up to serve his country knowing full well we were at war. He's no hero It's not about being afraid to go to war! It's about someone who is about upholding the constitution which he swor to defend & is doing just that! why now all of a sudden?.... Because he found a loophole, that allows him to uphold the constitution. He is a very brave man, the way Americans used to be. But, he will surely die in a plane crash. When I got home today, Lou Dobbs had this on CNN, so it is mainstream. Now we just have to wait to see how they spin it, then bury it again. But its too late, the genie is out of the bottle. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 530221 United States 07/15/2009 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good! You don't question the commander-in-chief if you're in the service. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708863This statement is exactly why we're doomed... Do you sensless mindless fuking robots realize that Norhcom has changed the oath of those serving to be sworn to THE OFFICE OF THE EXECUTIVE??? Which means that YOU would fit right in! Why are they changing the oath...? It's apparent that we have enough meat faces in the service who never considered their oaths in the first place?! What is the point of pointing this out to you... If you could read my words you would have read your Constitution! What is the ultimate check & balance against a military dictatorship?? GO ASK THE SOLDIERS THAT DIDN'T TAKE THE ORDERS OF THE COUP??? Oh... you can't?? That's right! They stood up and won or were taken out bravely! You are a pussy if you can't discern a Constitutional Order vs. an alphabet tactic... You bitches serve America, not some Higher Order that is infallable... if they were you would take an oath to serve them... which soon you and those alike will... blindly... cowardly! Go ask General Washington about orders. I would have had more respect for this guy if what he was doing was standing up for something. He wasn't. He was using a RUMOR as an excuse for bailing from his duty. This is a voluntary military, and no one made his join. It would be another thing if he was protesting the war or American conduct in the war, but he wasn't he was responding to inuendo as if it were truth. He has already admitted that his father was Kenyan, therefore he does not qualify. Do you not understand that they are trying to change the wording of the constitution to serve their needs. He is not a natural born citizen. A natural born citizen has a citizen mother and a citizen father. You are the ignorant one Ummm you need to do some reading before you make really silly claims. Natural-born citizen Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday? The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:" * Anyone born inside the United States * * Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe * Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S. * Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national * Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year * Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21 * Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time) * A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S. * There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision. Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example. [link to www.usconstitution.net] Don't confuse them with the facts..Their little heads will blow up |
Seneca User ID: 726343 United States 07/15/2009 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because he had to wait to recieve his deployment order's to file a claim such as this. And it took alot of testecular fotitude to stand up and challenge the way he did! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 726148Correct. Until the order of deployment, he did not have legal standing to bring the lawsuit. And the Army is now revoking the order for deployment in an attempt to deny his legal standing. However, the Federal Judge has discretion to hear the matter. Judges have discretion to hear matters that technically have become moot if the matters are of a recurring nature. Hence, the abortion issue, though "moot" to Jane Roe, nevertheless made it to the United States Supreme court because it was a matter of a recurring nature. [link to www.ledger-enquirer.com] Taitz argues in a pleading revised following the revocation of Cook’s orders, that the application for preliminary injunction is not moot and that retired Maj. Gen. Carol Dean Childers and U.S. Air Force Active Reservist Lt. Col. David Earl Graeff have joined the suit “because it is a matter of unparalleled public interest and importance and because it is clearly a matter arising from issues of a recurring nature that will escape review unless the Court exercises its discretionary jurisdiction.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 721463 United States 07/15/2009 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FIRED NO FIRING SQAUD. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725092For Obama yes, I will even donate the ammo and volunteer to be in the squad. Nail the usurper<<>>YES WE CAN WTF [link to briefingroom.thehill.com] |
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mr...bojangles User ID: 723054 Mexico 07/15/2009 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the supreme court... gave him the office.... Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu. Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher. Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 724892 United States 07/15/2009 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This only happens because the Major is "employed" in the US Army and there are laws that demand he not question, only after he signed on the dotted line, thus he is under contract. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 337613If he were not in the Army he cant be touched. He also can't be touched if he had filled out his UCC-3 form claiming his Strawman and all of his property and rights. After he becomes a real person, the government can't touch him without being illegal. he signed on the dotted line to follow the rules of the usa. The "constitution". The powers that be in every case are trying not to bring that up in every illegal case the usa corporate owned government does now. The usa corporate owned government is illegal. And they know it. THey don't want anyone to become aware of it. So they hush up it up quickly. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 724892 United States 07/15/2009 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In case no one is aware of it. Goldman sachs owns the usa government now. They are a subsidery of the fed which is mostly a forign owned organization. The "constitution" was written so this wouldn't happen. But it has. And no one seems aware. |
Memysabu User ID: 714950 United States 07/15/2009 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love it when someone calls another person a name implying retardation and they cant even spell the name theyre calling them. This person is also not a traitor, he did not refuse to deploy and would have deployed had the legal system not gotten involved. This person is not a coward. Hes in IT hed be doing tech support in a friggen green zone. Theres no way in hell hed ever hear a bullet fired in his entire time there. This soldier used this oppertunity to challege what he thinks to be an illegitimate president. He is a patriot and anyone calling him a traitor is a traitor themselves. This is exactly what the founding fathers would have done. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 725359 United States 07/15/2009 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love it when someone calls another person a name implying retardation and they cant even spell the name theyre calling them. Quoting: MemysabuThis person is also not a traitor, he did not refuse to deploy and would have deployed had the legal system not gotten involved. This person is not a coward. Hes in IT hed be doing tech support in a friggen green zone. Theres no way in hell hed ever hear a bullet fired in his entire time there. This soldier used this oppertunity to challege what he thinks to be an illegitimate president. He is a patriot and anyone calling him a traitor is a traitor themselves. This is exactly what the founding fathers would have done. +10 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 724892 United States 07/15/2009 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's a pussy that didn't want to be deployed. Like that guy on M.A.S.H that used to dress like a woman to get out of duty. Clinger or something like that Quoting: Anonymous Coward 696633LOLZ best post of the day Actually he's a hero standing up for the constitution and freedom. Something an ashwipe like yourself doesn't have a clue about. YOur probably a government shill being paid some money to be a paid servant of your fed masters. Eat sheet ashwipe. |
Seneca User ID: 726343 United States 07/15/2009 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Until the order of deployment, he did not have legal standing to bring the lawsuit. And the Army is now revoking the order for deployment in an attempt to deny his legal standing. Quoting: SenecaIn my opinion, the United States Attorneys who filed the motion on behalf of the Army have made a major legal blunder. The motion concedes the fact that Major Cook did have legal standing to bring the lawsuit when he was still under the order of deployment. They should have first filed a motion saying he lacked legal standing regardless whether he was under an order of deployment. By not doing so, they have opened the door for other military officers to have legal standing. |
II-Neutron User ID: 698407 Canada 07/15/2009 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This only happens because the Major is "employed" in the US Army and there are laws that demand he not question, only after he signed on the dotted line, thus he is under contract. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 337613If he were not in the Army he cant be touched. He also can't be touched if he had filled out his UCC-3 form claiming his Strawman and all of his property and rights. After he becomes a real person, the government can't touch him without being illegal. Thank you for saying that. Spot on! [email protected] By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Hebrews: 11 |
Seneca User ID: 726343 United States 07/15/2009 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for saying that. Spot on! Quoting: II-NeutronNo. Not spot on. What I posted previously: Major Cook's employer had a contract with the Department of Defense. His employer was threatened with loss of the contract if Major Cook was not fired. Obama could do this to anyone whose employer had a contract with the Department of Defense or any other agency of the Federal government. Not just to people in the military. In addition, even if the person's employer is not subject to such direct extortion, it may, nonetheless, be subject to indirect extortion. Perhaps, the employer does business with a bank that the Obama Administration controls or has substantial influence over. The bank calls the employer and says: Fire employee John Doe or we will imediately call in your loan and put you out of business. |
rodm User ID: 562070 United States 07/15/2009 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Department of Defense has compelled a private employer to fire a U.S. Army Reserve major from his civilian job after he had his military deployment orders revoked for arguing he should not be required to serve under a president who has not proven his eligibility for office. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 726148[link to www.wnd.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 717981 United States 07/15/2009 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's settle this once and for all... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 558159For those saying that the citizenship issue is just a rumor... Go ahead and post a link to a copy of his live birth certificate (the one that states which hospital he was born in).... Go on... We're waiting... Oh, wait! You could just link up some school transcript docs as well... Will wait... patiently... The burden of proof is on the accuser, dumbass. Oh and don't forget this tidbit in the US it's Innocent until Proven guilty. You fuckers are just a lynch mob looking for a rope Attorneys ARE trying to PROVE it, but Obama and his lackeys keep covering up the facts. Let's see the PROOF that he was born in Hawaii, not just "registered" in Hawaii. [link to nobarack08.wordpress.com] |
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Druid User ID: 500901 United States 07/15/2009 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is only the first step. They will do a whole lot more and ALL of it will be technically legal. Quoting: Sinanju2The Major made a horrible mistake. Worse, now he cannot take it back, not matter what he does. >>Druid, you are a class A idiot. If you read(provided you CAN read) the article it explicitly states the Pentagon broke the law by compelling this soldier's termination from his civilian job. You are a classic moran. You just don't understand what I wrote in the manner intended. Let me explain. You still may not be able to comprehend it, but at least I will have tried, right? The Pentagon cannot and did not ORDER the man fired. What they did was suggested to his boss that they would not do business with the company if this man stayed employed with them, due to some legal reason or another, such as revoking his security clearance or some such. Now, I know what the article said, and even understand the point of law involved... But the Pentagon didn't do what was claimed. How do I know this? Easy, that's not how they operate or how their lawyers operate. They don't have to break the law to ruin this guy. All they have to do is suggest that, since he may be in future legal trouble, it would be a poor idea to have him on staff, as they may not be able to work with the company otherwise. Can you understand this? If so, please indicate your ability to do so without insulting language. If not, then by all means, keep trying to make yourself feel better by denigrating those around you. After all, if that's all you have in life, who am I to take it from you? And all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "save us!" And I'll look down and whisper "No." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 679788 United States 07/15/2009 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for saying that. Spot on! Quoting: SenecaNo. Not spot on. What I posted previously: Major Cook's employer had a contract with the Department of Defense. His employer was threatened with loss of the contract if Major Cook was not fired. Obama could do this to anyone whose employer had a contract with the Department of Defense or any other agency of the Federal government. Not just to people in the military. In addition, even if the person's employer is not subject to such direct extortion, it may, nonetheless, be subject to indirect extortion. Perhaps, the employer does business with a bank that the Obama Administration controls or has substantial influence over. The bank calls the employer and says: Fire employee John Doe or we will imediately call in your loan and put you out of business. Do not forget GM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 624706 United States 07/15/2009 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is only the first step. They will do a whole lot more and ALL of it will be technically legal. Quoting: DruidThe Major made a horrible mistake. Worse, now he cannot take it back, not matter what he does. >>Druid, you are a class A idiot. If you read(provided you CAN read) the article it explicitly states the Pentagon broke the law by compelling this soldier's termination from his civilian job. You are a classic moran. You just don't understand what I wrote in the manner intended. Let me explain. You still may not be able to comprehend it, but at least I will have tried, right? The Pentagon cannot and did not ORDER the man fired. What they did was suggested to his boss that they would not do business with the company if this man stayed employed with them, due to some legal reason or another, such as revoking his security clearance or some such. Now, I know what the article said, and even understand the point of law involved... But the Pentagon didn't do what was claimed. How do I know this? Easy, that's not how they operate or how their lawyers operate. They don't have to break the law to ruin this guy. All they have to do is suggest that, since he may be in future legal trouble, it would be a poor idea to have him on staff, as they may not be able to work with the company otherwise. Can you understand this? If so, please indicate your ability to do so without insulting language. If not, then by all means, keep trying to make yourself feel better by denigrating those around you. After all, if that's all you have in life, who am I to take it from you? Yes, but it clearly indicates the person has standing. BO is in deep serious doo doo. |
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Seneca User ID: 726343 United States 07/15/2009 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for saying that. Spot on! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 679788No. Not spot on. What I posted previously: Major Cook's employer had a contract with the Department of Defense. His employer was threatened with loss of the contract if Major Cook was not fired. Obama could do this to anyone whose employer had a contract with the Department of Defense or any other agency of the Federal government. Not just to people in the military. In addition, even if the person's employer is not subject to such direct extortion, it may, nonetheless, be subject to indirect extortion. Perhaps, the employer does business with a bank that the Obama Administration controls or has substantial influence over. The bank calls the employer and says: Fire employee John Doe or we will imediately call in your loan and put you out of business. Do not forget GM Correct. The firing of the GM CEO. The threatening of banks with audits if they did not accept the TARP monies. The threatening of bond holders of Chrysler with "political retribution" if they did not give up their legal rights under bankruptcy law. Last Edited by Seneca on 07/15/2009 11:03 PM |