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When did the Bible really appear?
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db
User ID: 587237
 United Kingdom
7/18/2009 12:43 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
god wrote it just before he made the garden of eden -
and when he threw adam & eve out, he gave them a copy and told them to study it
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2060
 United States
7/18/2009 12:45 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
I think the thing to ponder here is this god in the flesh aspect. Was Jesus that? Maybe Jesus was a prelude to that? I think of that in connection to the fact that this world has gone monotheistic in the last 2000 years. Back in the day it was, predominantly, pantheistic. Coincidence?
And, lets ponder an aspect of an a major attribute of our monotheistic god: as opposed to your pantheism, the monotheistic god is but one. A major theme about Jesus is that He is God's only begotten.
IF/THEN: If the only one: only on this planet, only in this solar system; then what is this planet? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2060
You see, what people fail to see is that our planet may be a very special place. |
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MagiChristmas 
Cher Ami -- When did Pigeons not= Doves?
User ID: 554973
United States
7/18/2009 12:52 PM
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No..you said "the New Testament wasn't even compiled until some several hundred years after the advent of Christ"..
Yes, "compiled" means: Brought together.......not necessarily written then.
And the voice speaks the truth. 
That's it, I'm putting you on my Buddy List! :)
Thanks, I try to think of everyone as my friend, so I don't need to keep a list.
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Tis True, Tis True, Second Degree Doom Doth Ensue precisely as prescribed several months prior.
Discern the TRUTH of the TimeTable of Doom described in the aforementioned links. The TToD is Based on April 6th aka The MOST Significant day - 4.6 magnitude precursor earthquake struck Italy on April 6th shortly after the Prophet spoke. Then the major earthquake event occurred shortly after general conference adjourned. Ref=lds.org
The swine flu epidemic also emerged on April 6th in Mexico.
The deception continues to crumble.
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voice
User ID: 726227
United States
7/18/2009 12:55 PM
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Thanks, I try to think of everyone as my friend, so I don't need to keep a list. Quoting: MagiChristmas
Yea, that's what I meant to say too! ;) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 646448
United States
7/18/2009 1:19 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
There was no Bible until Ezra and his scribes compiled it from Egyptian and Babylon records, around 680 B.C. All the records in the kingdoms of Israel and Judah had previously been destroyed when those countries were conquered by Assyria and Babylon. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 675611
 Canada
7/18/2009 1:51 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
I'm also curious about the Beginning of Genesis. Are we to concern ourselves with the beginning of time? Our observable calculations of the age of the universe are obscuring the tale told in Genesis. Quoting: under-dreaming
Why do most scholars assume that the accounts of Genesis chapters 1 and 2 refer to the creation sequence?
There are some scholars who believe that those accounts simply reflect a deprogramming of the Egyptian religious model in the mind of Moses who must have surely been confused by all the events which had transpired prior to his writing things down.
Remember, Moses was an expert only in the Egyptian legends of the earth's and man's creation.
If you overlay the Egyptian creation model the way that Egyptian students must have been taught on top of the model given in Genesis 1 and 2, they line up.
This suggests that God was merely debriefing Moses and setting the record straight.
Here is a paraphrased example (God's mind to Moses' mind) for Genesis 1:1 (the rest can be worked out the same way):
ORIGINAL AS READ BY ANY READER WHO IS NOT MOSES:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
PARAPHRASED AS UNDERSTOOD BY MOSES:
In the beginning of the series of events which have led you, Moses, to the point where you are now, understand first of all that Elohim, and not the Egyptian god Nun, was the preexisting one, and He created the heaven and the earth, and not the Egyptian god Ra or any of the other Ogdoad gods of Iunu. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 11527
United States
7/18/2009 2:37 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
All this talk detracts from the main point: was Jesus god in the flesh? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 557697
 Norway
7/18/2009 2:42 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
There was no Bible until Ezra and his scribes compiled it from Egyptian and Babylon records, around 680 B.C. All the records in the kingdoms of Israel and Judah had previously been destroyed when those countries were conquered by Assyria and Babylon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646448
Most people haven't read 4Ezdras to know that. |
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Normal Is Subjective
User ID: 728743
Canada
7/18/2009 2:53 PM
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our science is far more advanced now. The goatherders who wrote Genesis had no idea of science.
Would you be saying then that people wrote the Bible, not God? Quoting: under-dreaming
Holy-ghost written.
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit. |
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MagiChristmas
Cher Ami -- When did Pigeons not= Doves?
User ID: 554973
United States
7/18/2009 3:59 PM
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All this talk detracts from the main point: was Jesus god in the flesh? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11527
If human beings, who began as spirit-children of God, can have a body, there is no reason why God cannot also have a body. Following his resurrection, Christ appeared to his disciples in Jerusalem and said, "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have" (Luke 24:39). Since Christ has a resurrected body, it would be wrong to say that the Godhead is spirit only. Moreover, since the scriptures teach--and the early Church fathers maintained--that mortals can be deified, it stands to reason that God could well have a body.
In addition, the Bible informs us that mankind was created in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27; 9:6; cf. Genesis 5:3) and some of the prophets who saw God described him as being like a man in shape, seated on a throne (Exodus 24:10-11; 33:18-23; Isaiah 6:1; Ezekiel 1:26; Revelation 4:2; cf. Amos 9:1). The question of whether God has a physical body has been discussed in a number of theological journals and books, with no consensus among modern scholars.
The early third-century Christian theologian Origen wrote that "the Jews indeed, but also some of our people, supposed that God should be understood as a man, that is, adorned with human members and human appearance. But the philosophers despise these stories as fabulous and formed in the likeness of poetic fictions" (Homilies on Genesis 3:1).
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Last Edited by 3*8** aka MagiChristmas on 7/18/2009 at 4:02 PM
TToD Links:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Tis True, Tis True, Second Degree Doom Doth Ensue precisely as prescribed several months prior.
Discern the TRUTH of the TimeTable of Doom described in the aforementioned links. The TToD is Based on April 6th aka The MOST Significant day - 4.6 magnitude precursor earthquake struck Italy on April 6th shortly after the Prophet spoke. Then the major earthquake event occurred shortly after general conference adjourned. Ref=lds.org
The swine flu epidemic also emerged on April 6th in Mexico.
The deception continues to crumble.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 726896
United States
7/18/2009 4:03 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
There was no Bible until Ezra and his scribes compiled it from Egyptian and Babylon records, around 680 B.C. All the records in the kingdoms of Israel and Judah had previously been destroyed when those countries were conquered by Assyria and Babylon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646448
The jewish elite didn't return from Babylon until 538BC. 500BC is closer to the real date. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 726896
United States
7/18/2009 4:04 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
All this talk detracts from the main point: was Jesus god in the flesh? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11527
he was as much God as you or me |
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voice
User ID: 726227
United States
7/18/2009 4:05 PM
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All this talk detracts from the main point: was Jesus god in the flesh? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11527
No more than we are! |
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voice
User ID: 726227
United States
7/18/2009 4:07 PM
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our science is far more advanced now. The goatherders who wrote Genesis had no idea of science.
Would you be saying then that people wrote the Bible, not God?
Holy-ghost written. Quoting: Normal Is Subjective
"Holy-ghost" can't write........he's a "ghost" for crying out loud!
Or can he/she? ;) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 646448
United States
7/18/2009 4:17 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
our science is far more advanced now. The goatherders who wrote Genesis had no idea of science.
Would you be saying then that people wrote the Bible, not God?
Holy-ghost written.
"Holy-ghost" can't write........he's a "ghost" for crying out loud!
Or can he/she? ;) Quoting: voice
Some of it was channeled to Ezra and his scribes by spirits. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 726896
United States
7/18/2009 4:18 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
our science is far more advanced now. The goatherders who wrote Genesis had no idea of science.
Would you be saying then that people wrote the Bible, not God?
Holy-ghost written.
"Holy-ghost" can't write........he's a "ghost" for crying out loud!
Or can he/she? ;)
Some of it was channeled to Ezra and his scribes by spirits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646448
and some was just creative fiction |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 15771
United States
7/18/2009 5:44 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
The trinity...
I'll give ya one:
The Father, The Son, All the rest of the children (us).
The holy ghost is but just the creation. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 252372
United States
7/18/2009 6:48 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
god wrote it just before he made the garden of eden -
and when he threw adam & eve out, he gave them a copy and told them to study it
. Quoting: db 587237
Yeah, but that copy got used a toilet paper. Then they asked God for more paper and He said to use the leaves. |
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voice
User ID: 726227
United States
7/18/2009 6:52 PM
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our science is far more advanced now. The goatherders who wrote Genesis had no idea of science.
Would you be saying then that people wrote the Bible, not God?
Holy-ghost written.
"Holy-ghost" can't write........he's a "ghost" for crying out loud!
Or can he/she? ;)
Some of it was channeled to Ezra and his scribes by spirits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646448
Or so they tell you? |
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MagiChristmas
Cher Ami -- When did Pigeons not= Doves?
User ID: 554973
United States
7/19/2009 3:18 AM
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The trinity...
I'll give ya one:
The Father, The Son, All the rest of the children (us).
The holy ghost is but just the creation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15771
[link to 14lds.com]
TToD Links:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Tis True, Tis True, Second Degree Doom Doth Ensue precisely as prescribed several months prior.
Discern the TRUTH of the TimeTable of Doom described in the aforementioned links. The TToD is Based on April 6th aka The MOST Significant day - 4.6 magnitude precursor earthquake struck Italy on April 6th shortly after the Prophet spoke. Then the major earthquake event occurred shortly after general conference adjourned. Ref=lds.org
The swine flu epidemic also emerged on April 6th in Mexico.
The deception continues to crumble.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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ICOM
User ID: 704320
United States
7/19/2009 3:28 AM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
The New Bible is OAHSPE |
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ICOM
User ID: 704320
United States
7/19/2009 3:34 AM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
our science is far more advanced now. The goatherders who wrote Genesis had no idea of science.
Would you be saying then that people wrote the Bible, not God?
Holy-ghost written.
"Holy-ghost" can't write........he's a "ghost" for crying out loud!
Or can he/she? ;)
Some of it was channeled to Ezra and his scribes by spirits.
Or so they tell you? Quoting: voice
The new Bible is in affect now! OAHSPE 24000YRS BACK, TO the near future! |
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Normal Is Subjective
User ID: 728743
Canada
7/19/2009 4:00 AM
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our science is far more advanced now. The goatherders who wrote Genesis had no idea of science.
Would you be saying then that people wrote the Bible, not God?
Holy-ghost written.
"Holy-ghost" can't write........he's a "ghost" for crying out loud!
Or can he/she? ;) Quoting: voice
Play on words, you know what a ghost-writer is?
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit. |
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Whee! 8D (Quebec)
User ID: 723359
Canada
7/19/2009 4:16 AM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
... and it take less than 3 days for a rumour to be completely distorted. LOL
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558
Searching the undebunkable.
[French Quebecker!] |
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Whee! 8D (Quebec)
User ID: 723359
Canada
7/19/2009 4:30 AM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
All this talk detracts from the main point: was Jesus god in the flesh?
No more than we are! Quoting: voice
Not.
He was just less stupid and way more spiritually knowledgeable.
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558
Searching the undebunkable.
[French Quebecker!] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 14199
United States
7/19/2009 2:35 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
The trinity...
I'll give ya one:
The Father, The Son, All the rest of the children (us).
The holy ghost is but just the creation.
[ link to 14lds.com]
::: the father, the son, the dream. What we call reality is but a dream.
The dream is about to go dynamic :)
OH, BTW, Jesus was all that, the god in the flesh. |
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Sandpiper
User ID: 729633
United States
7/19/2009 4:21 PM | | Re: When did the Bible really appear? | Quote |
Jesus taught in the Temple reading from the scrolls. He mentions Isaiah and Daniel many times in the new testament as well. Yes, Jesus is GOD. HE and the FATHER are ONE. Moses had the 10 commandments and many messages that were written down. The Bible grew as GOD willed it, through men that were filled with the Holy Spirit. |
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