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Response to the "Why Should We Be So Tolerant? (Politically Correct) " thread
I posted this same reply in that thread. However since it will probably get buried somewhere on page 5, I decided to post the same comment in its own thread.

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According to the poll results 90% of Americans are afraid to be real. I voted no so I am in the 10% minority of Americans who aren't afraid to be real. Though I guess that shouldn't come as a surprise to me since my IQ is also in the top 10% of Americans.

In my opinion the downfall of man in general are his emotions. When I say man I include women too. Though women tend to be more emotional, there are many men who are controlled by their emotions as well.

Hate and vengeance are right there at the top of the list of useless emotions that have long been the downfall of man. When people are full of hate they tend not to think rationally and make decisions solely on how they are feeling.

When you place someone in the position of power and authority who is too emotional, it always leads to trouble. Whether its a male or female, politician, cop, teacher, judge, military officer, sport official/referee, forum mod/admin etc.



To answer the question about "tolerance" I think you can answer that for yourself. Take a few minutes to think about why you have several mods, who YOU instruct to delete certain posts and threads. Think about why this message appears so often "Sorry, that message is no longer in the database." Think about why so many people get banned from YOUR forum. Then you will have answered your own question. Why you're at it look up the word hypocrite.

Woops did I just say all that. I hope someone doesn't get all emotional and decide to delete this or ban me. Maybe I should learn to be more politically correct or tolerant of those who hate.

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Re: Response to the "Why Should We Be So Tolerant? (Politically Correct) " thread
I think you're a smart ass

and your argument makes no sense

I never claimed to be tolerant or politicly correct ;)
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touché


What do you think of my comment about "hating" and "haters"?
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Re: Response to the "Why Should We Be So Tolerant? (Politically Correct) " thread
In psychology, Dr. Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness. In a more contemporary definition, the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology defines hate as a "deep, enduring, intense emotion expressing animosity, anger, and hostility towards a person, group, or object." Because hatred is believed to be long-lasting, many psychologists consider it to be more of an attitude or disposition than a (temporary) emotional state.
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Re: Response to the "Why Should We Be So Tolerant? (Politically Correct) " thread
I posted this same reply in that thread. However since it will probably get buried somewhere on page 5, I decided to post the same comment in its own thread.

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According to the poll results 90% of Americans are afraid to be real. I voted no so I am in the 10% minority of Americans who isn't afraid to be real. Though I guess that shouldn't come as a surprise to me since my IQ is also in the top 10% of Americans.

In my opinion the downfall of man in general are his emotions. When I say man I include women too. Though women tend to be more emotional, there are many men who are controlled by their emotions as well.

Hate and vengeance are right there at the top of the list of useless emotions that have long been the downfall of man. When people are full of hate they tend not to think rationally and make decisions solely on how they are feeling.

When you place someone in the position of power and authority who is too emotional, it always leads to trouble. Whether its a male or female, politician, cop, teacher, judge, military officer, sport official/referee, forum mod/admin etc.

To answer the question about "tolerance" I think you can answer that for yourself. Take a few minutes to think about why you have several mods, who YOU instruct to delete certain posts and threads. Think about why this message appears so often "Sorry, that message is no longer in the database." Think about why so many people get banned from YOUR forum. Then you will have answered your own question. Why you're at it look up the word hypocrite.

Woops did I just say all that. I hope someone doesn't get all emotional and decide to delete this or ban me. Maybe I should learn to be more politically correct or tolerant of those who hate.
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I will give you about <>, well that much attention. Your post makes no sense and entirely misses the point. Actually, your words indicate a high level of emotion; and, therefore, you place yourself at risk of appearing to be a hypocrite. Really, you need not have gone on so, when your subtextual focus seems to do with the possibility that you have experienced extreme emotion after having been banned.
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In psychology, Dr. Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness. In a more contemporary definition, the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology defines hate as a "deep, enduring, intense emotion expressing animosity, anger, and hostility towards a person, group, or object." Because hatred is believed to be long-lasting, many psychologists consider it to be more of an attitude or disposition than a (temporary) emotional state.



I disagree with that assessment
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and?
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If your IQ is so bloody high, why is your grammar and English so atrocious?
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If your IQ is so bloody high, why is your grammar and English so atrocious?
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grammar and the ability to communicate in english is not a measurement of IQ.
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In psychology, Dr. Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness. In a more contemporary definition, the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology defines hate as a "deep, enduring, intense emotion expressing animosity, anger, and hostility towards a person, group, or object." Because hatred is believed to be long-lasting, many psychologists consider it to be more of an attitude or disposition than a (temporary) emotional state.
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Yeah. No kidding. You can see hateful people coming down the street, just from their attitude. Nothing ever goes right for them. They're always pissed off about something or nothing. Personally, I avoid them.
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Hate ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS leads to violence. Always. Never fails. As hate seethes, it looks for an outlet. The pressure cooker explodes and violence erupts.
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If your IQ is so bloody high, why is your grammar and English so atrocious?

grammar and the ability to communicate in english is not a measurement of IQ.
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Verbal and written competence are components of IQ measurement in whatever language such a test is administered. Perhaps you should specify your native language so allowances can be made.

Hmmm, thought this thread was not about IQ, but about the OP duplicating a post made to another thread because he could not get enough attention.
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Re: Response to the "Why Should We Be So Tolerant? (Politically Correct) " thread
In psychology, Dr. Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness. In a more contemporary definition, the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology defines hate as a "deep, enduring, intense emotion expressing animosity, anger, and hostility towards a person, group, or object." Because hatred is believed to be long-lasting, many psychologists consider it to be more of an attitude or disposition than a (temporary) emotional state.
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Freud?

lol
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In psychology, Dr. Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness. In a more contemporary definition, the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology defines hate as a "deep, enduring, intense emotion expressing animosity, anger, and hostility towards a person, group, or object." Because hatred is believed to be long-lasting, many psychologists consider it to be more of an attitude or disposition than a (temporary) emotional state.



Freud?

lol
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lets see your Ph.D. dr. glp.
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Hate ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS leads to violence. Always. Never fails. As hate seethes, it looks for an outlet. The pressure cooker explodes and violence erupts.
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What's so bad about violence?
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Hate ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS leads to violence. Always. Never fails. As hate seethes, it looks for an outlet. The pressure cooker explodes and violence erupts.
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You sound experienced in feeling hatred. That is sad, to see the world through that single lens.
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In psychology, Dr. Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness. In a more contemporary definition, the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology defines hate as a "deep, enduring, intense emotion expressing animosity, anger, and hostility towards a person, group, or object." Because hatred is believed to be long-lasting, many psychologists consider it to be more of an attitude or disposition than a (temporary) emotional state.



Freud?

lol

lets see your Ph.D. dr. glp.
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Freud is laughed at.
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In psychology, Dr. Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness. In a more contemporary definition, the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology defines hate as a "deep, enduring, intense emotion expressing animosity, anger, and hostility towards a person, group, or object." Because hatred is believed to be long-lasting, many psychologists consider it to be more of an attitude or disposition than a (temporary) emotional state.



Freud?

lol

lets see your Ph.D. dr. glp.


Freud is laughed at.
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well you apparently did not read the post, because it states that "new" understanding of hatred in the world of psychology differs from freud... but than again you didn't read the entire post. Please deposit $0.25 to play again.
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Re: Response to the "Why Should We Be So Tolerant? (Politically Correct) " thread
In psychology, Dr. Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness. In a more contemporary definition, the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology defines hate as a "deep, enduring, intense emotion expressing animosity, anger, and hostility towards a person, group, or object." Because hatred is believed to be long-lasting, many psychologists consider it to be more of an attitude or disposition than a (temporary) emotional state.



Freud?

lol

lets see your Ph.D. dr. glp.


Freud is laughed at.

well you apparently did not read the post, because it states that "new" understanding of hatred in the world of psychology differs from freud... but than again you didn't read the entire post. Please deposit $0.25 to play again.
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I stopped reading when I saw "Freud".
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Re: Response to the "Why Should We Be So Tolerant? (Politically Correct) " thread
touché


What do you think of my comment about "hating" and "haters"?



well I disagree

I think hate is an important and valid emotion

I think hate is nothing more than " strongly disagree" is it not?

So one should be able to feel the emotion of "strongly disagreeing" no matter what you call that emotion

otherwise how do you really know right from wrong?
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People "hate" for different reasons but it almost always serves no purpose.

Let me give you a real life example from this forum to put things into perspective. I had a discussion recently with someone who will remain nameless who is an admitted racist. When I say admitted, I mean I asked him directly if he would consider himself a racist and he admitted he is.

We went on to have a lengthy conversation about his beliefs. The conversation consisted of well thought out opinions, and factual data presented by both of us. While I disagreed with much of what he said I didn't hate him for it. At the same time when I asked if he was also a bigot who was intolerant and hated all black people he said no. He said he hasn't met all black people or enough to say he hates black people (I'm paraphrasing).

I don't know what he thinks of me as an individual, but left the conversation still having respect for him. Mostly because we were able to have a logical conversation about race without getting all emotional. Also I respect the fact that he is one of the few people who is a racist that can admit it.

So my point is you can disagree with someone or an ideal, without hating. I will reiterate my point that hate has been the downfall of man. Most wars, fights, divorces, etc are a result of people hating others. Hate is several steps past strongly disagreeing with someones views lifestyle etc. The only way any nation past or present can convince young men and women to kill on its behalf is by programming them to hate the other side. It's either hate for their race, political beliefs or religion.

I think you may be familiar with the slang term "hater", but for those who aren't I'll elaborate. Player hater or "hater" is a term used to describe losers who are often jealous of others they view who are "better" than them. Maybe its because they see someone else as better looking, has more money, has a better car, stronger, gets more women/men etc. These "haters" tend to always remain losers in life because they spend too much time and energy hating on others.

Now I'm not saying that the only reason people hate is out of jealousy, but the same idea holds true about how hate just holds you down. You are retired so you have more money and time on your hands to ponder such things. But I see many others on this forum who are full of hate. They hate on other races, others sexual orientation, politicians, the rich, etc. etc. Then I see these same people whining on others threads about why their life is so terrible and how they can't wait for doom. It's no surprise that these same people often blame others for their misfortunes. Then you see the same hypocrites complaining about certain races who blame others for their misfortunes.
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Re: Response to the "Why Should We Be So Tolerant? (Politically Correct) " thread
Hate ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS leads to violence. Always. Never fails. As hate seethes, it looks for an outlet. The pressure cooker explodes and violence erupts.



What's so bad about violence?
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The propensity to use it as a first, rather than last, resort.
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit.
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how bout everyone here, as an experiment, completely disagree with their own posting, in the interests of fulfiling all emotional octaves and thereby neutralising a pointless endeavor.
And if one more redneck comes up to me and says howdy partner I'm gunna spit in his mouth with my chew'n bacca.
Same as if some maori says Hey Cuz. WTF? I aint black. I'm a redneck Bro!
My two cents
Which I disagree with, thereby agreeing to simultaniously polarise my emotions and attain true balance.
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how bout everyone here, as an experiment, completely disagree with their own posting, in the interests of fulfiling all emotional octaves and thereby neutralising a pointless endeavor.
And if one more redneck comes up to me and says howdy partner I'm gunna spit in his mouth with my chew'n bacca.
Same as if some maori says Hey Cuz. WTF? I aint black. I'm a redneck Bro!
My two cents
Which I disagree with, thereby agreeing to simultaniously polarise my emotions and attain true balance.
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I'm shooting for ambivalent ambiguity.
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit.

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