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this guy died in a plane crash & went to his fully consciences being (eternity)

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fate
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7/19/2009 8:56 AM
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this guy died in a plane crash & went to his fully consciences being (eternity)	Quote
when your fully conscience you understand everything & all your senses are intensely keener listen to this story & ask yourself where you going when shtf? godbless [link to www.youtube.com]

Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2009 8:57 AM

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So how come all the other people who died and came back to life, like my mother, didn't see any hell? And only religious fundies do?

TVZ
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7/19/2009 9:03 AM

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Ya! My daughter had a near death experiences and no hell around only people from our family that had died. I will add also she was only 3 years old when it happened and didn't know the people she saw there but know who they were and told me they were there...

Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2009 9:07 AM

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Thank you.

Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2009 9:16 AM

Re: this guy died in a plane crash & went to his fully consciences being (eternity)	Quote
when your fully conscience you understand everything & all your senses are intensely keener listen to this story & ask yourself where you going when shtf? godbless [link to www.youtube.com] Quoting: fate 725036 You don't have to die to become fully lucid. You just have to walk with Jesus Christ in the Holy Spirit.

Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2009 9:35 AM

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Hell was originally a burning garbage dump - it was a figure of speech.

Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2009 10:01 AM

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Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 727846 pin

anonymous
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7/19/2009 10:20 AM

Re: this guy died in a plane crash & went to his fully consciences being (eternity)	Quote
i think the lord has his many ways to getting his own into heaven one way or another ..AND thier will always be strange AND UNUSUAL stories.. BUT getting thier is the happy endgame to it all ANYWAY ..

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7/19/2009 10:27 AM

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when your fully conscience you understand everything & all your senses are intensely keener listen to this story & ask yourself where you going when shtf?

godbless

[link to www.youtube.com]

Quoting: fate 725036

Okay OP..... the deal is when you finally cross over you will be in the place that you expect to be..... if you envision hell, then that's where you'll be until you decide to ask for help. Many people have been influenced by the bible... the bible says hell, then that's where they believe they will go.... it's all a matter of mind control.

If a person believes they will return to the world of spirit then that person will be in the spirit world where we all come from and return to when we've finished what we have to do here.

You might want to visit this site [link to www.victorzammit.com]
and find out the alternative to hell....:)

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TVZ
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7/19/2009 12:21 PM

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Ok, I just watched the video. And I do have to say his experience of "The Void" (much better name to understand it) is very moving. I believe it is a state of being a person puts their self in (not a place) when coming face to face with their life actions during the death of the physical body, standing bare in front of a mirror and seeing their self for who they really where in their life no if's, and's or buts about it. At that point their spirit is clear of any problems that may have been caused by dysfunctions of the physical brain or body giving them the ability to understand clearly like they never were able to before...because of this some people may be able to forgive themselves and understand easier then others even through they had done some pretty bad things. They understand that something within the brain caused them to make wrong judgements and choices not their spirit choices and they can forgive their self because they understand. Others that this does not apply to may feel nothing, some may feel great sadness for the tiniest things they did which may mean nothing to another person. It's interesting how "free choice" comes up all the time even in some of the ETs actions here. Making choices is our life teacher. Were I differ with a lot of the main stream churches is I believe if a person would end up in the void (if any do) they would because they will not except the responsibility for their actions even after death and not because God has put them there to punish them it is because they are still making that choice after death. Then we get into what is right and what is wrong which throws a whole other hat in the ring or does that even matter? Who knows how many people when faced with the void no matter how bad or selfish they were, at that point are able to see how their actions of self centeredness hurt people and except responsibility for that and in that moment a step of knowledge of enlightenment has been reached. So it looks like some people reach a higher understanding on earth and others reach it in the transition stage between life and physical death?..Each person has a self enlightenment they most reach it looks like their maybe more then one time or life (I say lives because I have past memories of lives other then this one) to achieve it...and yes I am a Christian and I understand how when possibly facing the void believing that Christ forgives all your actions can make it much easier to go through. Kind of like a parents says "That's Ok honey I still love you I understand". But I also think we shouldn't use that as a free ticket and take responsibility for what we may have done...There is so much to think about while here on earth. just when you think you have it figured out something new comes into the picture...."oh" the wonder of the puzzle of life! : ) I will be excitedly wondering until the day I slide out of my wondrous physical body...

Just my thoughts this morning. I know others will disagree, it may not even be read by anyone but that is Ok we are all in this together and just trying to figure it out...have a nice Sunday!

Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2009 12:32 PM

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when your fully conscience you understand everything & all your senses are intensely keener listen to this story & ask yourself where you going when shtf? godbless [link to www.youtube.com] Quoting: fate 725036

Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2009 9:59 PM

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when your fully conscience you understand everything & all your senses are intensely keener listen to this story & ask yourself where you going when shtf?

godbless

[link to www.youtube.com]

Okay OP..... the deal is when you finally cross over you will be in the place that you expect to be..... if you envision hell, then that's where you'll be until you decide to ask for help. Many people have been influenced by the bible... the bible says hell, then that's where they believe they will go.... it's all a matter of mind control.

If a person believes they will return to the world of spirit then that person will be in the spirit world where we all come from and return to when we've finished what we have to do here.

You might want to visit this site [link to www.victorzammit.com]
and find out the alternative to hell....:)

Quoting: Canuck

TPTB made that part up what ever you think is in the afterlife thats where you go that is very wrong to keep you confused about the truth

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