Buildings going over a mile high? A floating city? Super advanced technologies? Bioengineering? I believe they had all of this before the Great Flood. Why?
Lets look at some history from the bible...
Genesis 11
1And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
2And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
3And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
4And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
5And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
6And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
8So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
9Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
Notice how the whole world was of one language and of one speech. Every one could communicate all their ideas together to advance to seemingly unlimited potential. Imagine if Einstein, Newton, Di Vinci, Franklin, Tesla and countless other scientists could live hundreds of years being able to understand one another. Look what just one of these scientists was able to accomplish in their short life. Now imagine a few like the Wright Brothers living almost a thousand years getting work together...or how about 90 percent of the inventors who where born starting around 1100 A.D. not dying and working with all the named above!
So this is one of the reasons why God confused their language because they would be able to do anything that they have imagined to do!
And the tower to reach unto heaven? Was it not because the younger generations hearing of super tall buildings so tall that looking from the ground they seem to go out of sight!? And they wanted to make a name for themselves.
What about super giant ships as big and even bigger than what we have today. Then it would be said...then other people could have survived too...but then I say look what happened to Titanic on its maiden voyage! It was said...Not even God can sink this ship! And look...it was it God that sunk it or man being ignorant? I think one article from around 1912 even mentioned that part of the underneath of the ship was weak and needed work but was going out anyway. Someone might have been trusting in those flood compartment gates?...I don't know.
The ship God had Noah make was very specific to be able to handle extreme punishment of the world wide judgement. I would imagine very, very rough seas, enourmous amounts of floating debri and buildings, super heavy rain which the Ark was water tight. All the other ships was not prepared for water falls and all the catastrophic events and were destroyed and to disolved by elements of nature.
As the days of Noah are so shall the days of the Son of Man be...look there is a building now almost a half of a mile high and there are plans for a mile high one in Saudi Arabia?
I wanted to share my thoughts to everyone about this...I wonder if any of you feel the same way I do about these things...
Sincerely,
Conservator
Anonymous Coward User ID: 725812 7/19/2009 8:58 PM
Yeah I do think humankind could accomplish much with long lifetimes and being able to understand each other.
I believe in God but not as Religion portrays A God
But more in the Principle of THE God - Life
I think Creation of Human Race into something where we would be individuals yet co operate was more important than technology
The earth is abundant and beneficent but Man/Women need to learn to gift each other their Values
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the tower of Babel and the one-languages thing was AFTER the flood. Flood: Genesis 6. Babel: Genesis 10.
The people had congregated, in direct opposition to what God had told them to do, which was disperse and re-populate the world. Then they decided to build the tower and got feeling too smart of themselves and worshipped their smartness rather than God so He confused the languages and made them disperse anyway.
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Or, of course, in the actual bible Gen. chapters 5-11.
the bible is silent of pre-creation. It begins by saying "in the beginning" so since I am a bible literalist, that is the BEGINNING. If people want to suppose that three-toed Atlanteans were prancing around telepathically saying "Peace" to each other before the Beginning then fine. But the bible does not support the notion of pre-creation civilizations
Last Edited by Dread Pirate Roberts on 7/19/2009 at 9:21 PM From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
Anonymous Coward User ID: 432850 7/19/2009 9:21 PM
Who knows what all may have happened in the past on this planet. I find this to be a fascinating subject. The more one reads of this the more one's appetite is stimulated to learn more! How I wish humankind would get some breaks in discovering our past. I believe much has been hidden from us.
I think that in the past there have been many civilizations with superior technologies to ours at the present time. I think what we have has been purposefully retarded in order to keep us powerless in the scheme of TPTB to use humankind basically as cash cows to skim profit off of. They created a system in which they don't have to work in order to live, they live off of us.
This is unsustainable and it's part of the reason things are caving in for TPTB. It may not be long before their house of cards collapses, and during periods like this is sometimes when things from the past that have been hidden are discovered and opened up.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 729795 7/19/2009 9:28 PM
The Tower of Babel, when the human race decided to work together God threw a tantrum and ever since then the human race has being following his teaching of 'don't work with your fellow man' to the letter.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 254879 7/19/2009 9:39 PM
I've always found the Tower of Babel to be one of the strangest stories in the Bible.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 729795
Because it is not correct. Get a concordance and go through it word by word. You will find a much more interesting story, not the Bullshit that you have been taught.
Here is a hint
And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech (rough King James interpretation) If you research it word for word you will find it says the dry ground was of one. In other words where we walk was a solid piece.
The part where it says let us build a tower to reach to the heavens etc..
That part refers to building not a tower but a some sort of ship or plane or something to get off the dry ground because the earth was in another change (earthquakes etc...) A type of oil was raining from the skies among other things.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 725092 7/19/2009 9:42 PM
What the hell does spoken language have to do with mathematics, architecture, astronomy, electricity, etc.? When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.
Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"
-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
Anonymous Coward User ID: 728878 7/19/2009 9:48 PM
the bible is silent of pre-creation. It begins by saying "in the beginning" so since I am a bible literalist, that is the BEGINNING. If people want to suppose that three-toed Atlanteans were prancing around telepathically saying "Peace" to each other before the Beginning then fine. But the bible does not support the notion of pre-creation civilizations
Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts
There were two forms of tradition in the ancient Hebrew tradition -- Oral and Literal. One transmitted the stories of the Torah orally, and the other did so in writing. In that sense, the Bible is the literal truth -- a product of the literal tradition. That doesn't mean that it is meant to be taken literally -- which is a rather recent concept.
As for your 'in the beginning' comment... In the beginning of WHAT? In the beginning of time? In the beginning of the cycle? In the beginning of the ERA/Aeon? You don't know, do you?
the bible is silent of pre-creation. It begins by saying "in the beginning" so since I am a bible literalist, that is the BEGINNING. If people want to suppose that three-toed Atlanteans were prancing around telepathically saying "Peace" to each other before the Beginning then fine. But the bible does not support the notion of pre-creation civilizations
There were two forms of tradition in the ancient Hebrew tradition -- Oral and Literal. One transmitted the stories of the Torah orally, and the other did so in writing. In that sense, the Bible is the literal truth -- a product of the literal tradition. That doesn't mean that it is meant to be taken literally -- which is a rather recent concept.
As for your 'in the beginning' comment... In the beginning of WHAT? In the beginning of time? In the beginning of the cycle? In the beginning of the ERA/Aeon? You don't know, do you?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 484854
Only God knows. That's why he's God. From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
LEGION, FOR THERE ARE MANY User ID: 720213 7/19/2009 10:18 PM
What I understand, the "tower of Babel" was a " launch tower" for a spaceship...which was destroyed.
I further understand the original language was either Hebrew or Akkadian...which the animals themselves, IMO, understood.
After the flood around 13,500 years ago, or about 11,500 B.C. the earth`s atmosphere changed and our life span dwindle significantly due to oxygen saturation changes, atmospheric pressure changes and ultra violet light increasing. Also, though I don`t know how, I heard our gravity became weaker.
I also believe during this time when this object in space passed the earth, it altered our calendar from 360 days to 365 days.
It is my observation that the present "human species", is smaller, weaker, less informed and is a devolved mutant hybrid of the original model.
No offense intended.
We have been dumbed down to serve and fulfill the wishes and desires of our human brokers, who have somewhat longer life spans then us to control us......we are slaves.
We, the human species, in general and like in the movie "Charley", due to increases in sodomy and perversion are devolving back to the hominid we once were.
Except for a remnant, it appears, we are becoming more violent and animalistic in nature.
Therefore, as in the past, that is during the flood, only select seeds will be chosen and taken.
Regarding Noah`s Ark, he and his family had help in building the Ark, not the local villagers either.
Also their navigator aboard the Ark was not human.
Furthermore, the Ark, on board, contained the seeds of life as in DNA along with some animals for food and a re population.
Regarding the animals entering the Ark on their own free will, some did due their sense of a clear and present danger as in earthquakes or Tsunami. They were also lead to the Ark by beings not of this earth.
Regarding tall buildings, I encourage you to peruse the Clementine Lunar Image Browser 1.5 at
Put in -73 latitude and 135 longitude, it is believed this attempted washed out object is a spaceship and or a factory 10 times the length of Los Angeles. Though my calculations are not exact, it appears this craft is over 200 miles long and about 70 miles tall.....there also appears to be a humanoid or android or something "human looking" that appears, I say appears, to be from 50 to 75 miles tall and about 10 to 20 miles across at the shoulders.
Now.......about....."there were giants on the earth in those days and there after"
LEGION
Anonymous Coward User ID: 484854 7/19/2009 10:20 PM
Nonsense. If you actually took the time to READ the passages you cite, you'd know the words that were used. You're pleading ignorance here, when in fact your ignorance can be cured by the simple process of looking at the ancient language, the words used, and seeing the various attempts at translation. Once you have seen a couple/few translations, you will have a much better idea of what the authors intended to convey with their writing. Relying on the KJV translation is foolish, and only goes to show that you, and people like you, prefer to worship a book rather than that which the book points you to.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 729842 7/19/2009 10:23 PM
I also believe during this time when this object in space passed the earth, it altered our calendar from 360 days to 365 days.
Quoting: LEGION, FOR THERE ARE MANY 720213
OMG the ignorance here is spectacular.
If you actually took the time to learn what the ancient civilizations were like, you'd have a far better idea of why you're simply wrong here.
The early civilizations measured time in lunar cycles. When you realize that, you quickly understand why they had 360 day 'years'. It wasn't because some fantastic object altered our planet's orbit.
The research on this topic is absolutely readily available. There were people who wanted to continue with the moon-based calendar, and there were obviously people who believed the Sun-based calendar was superior. We obviously know which faction won out. But some of us also have a difficult time understanding what it must have been like to have a moon-based calendar, and we create completely bizarre stories to make up for own ignorance of the topic.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 432850 7/19/2009 10:34 PM
Nonsense. If you actually took the time to READ the passages you cite, you'd know the words that were used. You're pleading ignorance here, when in fact your ignorance can be cured by the simple process of looking at the ancient language, the words used, and seeing the various attempts at translation. Once you have seen a couple/few translations, you will have a much better idea of what the authors intended to convey with their writing. Relying on the KJV translation is foolish, and only goes to show that you, and people like you, prefer to worship a book rather than that which the book points you to.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 484854
I have read the bible. You assumed I haven't. Now you know the truth. I rely on four versions not just KJV. Another assumption you have made, and now, again, you know the truth. I worship Jesus. A third assumption you have made, and with that third in such a short space of a post, I deduce that your intentions are less than honorable in conversation. Also, I do not like being called "ignorant" because I participate in a discussion and stated an pinion different from yours. Have a good night and best to you in your interpretations of the bible. From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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