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Druid (OP) User ID: 497567 United States 07/19/2009 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
entropy User ID: 678498 United States 07/19/2009 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1862 opinion of the U.S. Attorney General our constitution, in speaking of natural born citizens, uses no affirmative language to make them such, but only recognizes and reaffirms the universal principle, common to all nations, and as old as political society, that the people born in a country do constitute the nation, and, as individuals, are natural members of the body politic. 1857 opinion of Supreme Court Justice Benjamin R. Curtis The answer is obvious. The Constitution has left to the States the determination what person, born within their respective limits, shall acquire by birth citizenship of the United States Other countries laws never supercede our own. If Hawaii says he is a citizen, then he is a citizen. If Hawaii says he was born there, that makes him a natural born citizen. Dual citizenship is not mentioned in the constitution and until the time the supreme courts decide that it is not constitutional, dual citizenship does not disqualify someone from being President. my re-imaging(cover) of "Piggies" (The Beatles) and "Lights in the Sky" (Nine Inch Nails) is available to listen to now. Won't cost you a dime. Click below to hear it. [link to www.myspace.com] Over 1 Million plays, Most popular NIN Remix / Re imaging artist on myspace. I keep it separate: [link to www.myspace.com] archive: [link to www.vampirefreaks.com] Thanks. [link to www.facebook.com] aSBhbSB5b3VyIHNhdmlvcg0KaSBhbSBjb3JydXB0aW9uDQppIGFtIHRoZSBhbmdlbA0Kb2YgeW91ciBkZXN0cnVjdGlvbg0KaSBhbSBwZXJ2ZXJzaW9uDQpzZWNyZXQgZGVzaXJlDQppIGFtIHlvdXIgZnV0dXJlDQpzd2FsbG93ZWQgdXAgaW4gZmlyZQ== |
picesnator User ID: 639746 United States 07/19/2009 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | born in kenya............my take on it...it could be that mama had renounced her citizen ship to marry in kenya....or at the very least, to have a indonesian citizenship, by his stepdad.....either way, his past is checkered to say the least and why is he hiding it....and santizing the net about his birth certificate....he has some explaining to do... |
Druid (OP) User ID: 497567 United States 07/19/2009 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1862 opinion of the U.S. Attorney General Quoting: entropyour constitution, in speaking of natural born citizens, uses no affirmative language to make them such, but only recognizes and reaffirms the universal principle, common to all nations, and as old as political society, that the people born in a country do constitute the nation, and, as individuals, are natural members of the body politic. 1857 opinion of Supreme Court Justice Benjamin R. Curtis The answer is obvious. The Constitution has left to the States the determination what person, born within their respective limits, shall acquire by birth citizenship of the United States Other countries laws never supercede our own. If Hawaii says he is a citizen, then he is a citizen. If Hawaii says he was born there, that makes him a natural born citizen. Dual citizenship is not mentioned in the constitution and until the time the supreme courts decide that it is not constitutional, dual citizenship does not disqualify someone from being President. While these are very good points (and agree with my own research by the way) This is a poll. Giving data is counter to good polling procedure and can skew the results. :) And all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "save us!" And I'll look down and whisper "No." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 711980 United States 07/19/2009 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do any of you posters think your super insightful replies are going to change any minds? Obama was selected to run the US corp. TPTB allowed it because his skin color deflects criticism, allows them to continue the agenda for a few more years and they have dirt on him. If he gets out of hand the mainstream media will jump all over this. Imagine a newscaster in mock outrage "There were whispers on the Internet. But we never took it seriously until now..." Keep arguing about this while banks steal more and congress imposes cap n trade on your ass. |
Druid (OP) User ID: 497567 United States 07/19/2009 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do any of you posters think your super insightful replies are going to change any minds? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711980Obama was selected to run the US corp. TPTB allowed it because his skin color deflects criticism, allows them to continue the agenda for a few more years and they have dirt on him. If he gets out of hand the mainstream media will jump all over this. Imagine a newscaster in mock outrage "There were whispers on the Internet. But we never took it seriously until now..." Keep arguing about this while banks steal more and congress imposes cap n trade on your ass. Except that things don't work that way. They CAN'T use this until they are ready to take down the whole thing... Because trying to would destroy the country, possibly start a civil war and definatly mess with the economy. There is no particular reason to do any of those things, and if you do want them done, you may not have to do anything more than wait a while longer. And all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "save us!" And I'll look down and whisper "No." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 712676 Australia 07/19/2009 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do people really think the whole world will just "collapse" ?? Do you honestly think there aren't opposing forces in the Illuminati who DON'T want a collapse ? Think, people. It's not all black and white. As someone once said, The Illuminati is like a group of bank robbers who can't decide on how to share the loot. I would rephrase that an suggest the Illuminati are a bunch of control freaks that are suffering from wishful thinking! |
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entropy User ID: 678498 United States 07/19/2009 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's a natural born citizen of the US by constitutional law however his mother may have abducted by aliens and he possibly has been implanted with alien DNA making him a hybrid reptillian! Last Edited by entropy on 07/19/2009 08:48 PM my re-imaging(cover) of "Piggies" (The Beatles) and "Lights in the Sky" (Nine Inch Nails) is available to listen to now. Won't cost you a dime. Click below to hear it. [link to www.myspace.com] Over 1 Million plays, Most popular NIN Remix / Re imaging artist on myspace. I keep it separate: [link to www.myspace.com] archive: [link to www.vampirefreaks.com] Thanks. [link to www.facebook.com] aSBhbSB5b3VyIHNhdmlvcg0KaSBhbSBjb3JydXB0aW9uDQppIGFtIHRoZSBhbmdlbA0Kb2YgeW91ciBkZXN0cnVjdGlvbg0KaSBhbSBwZXJ2ZXJzaW9uDQpzZWNyZXQgZGVzaXJlDQppIGFtIHlvdXIgZnV0dXJlDQpzd2FsbG93ZWQgdXAgaW4gZmlyZQ== |
Druid (OP) User ID: 497567 United States 07/19/2009 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting to see how people vote on this indeed! Entropy... We can't prove Alien DNA without a sample and, well, understanding DNA a good bit better! But I would be happy to go over all of this is he was even part Alien. (Outer space alien, not just from another country.) :) And all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "save us!" And I'll look down and whisper "No." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 380499 Canada 07/19/2009 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just show the proof, Barry. Canadian ex-prime minister, Jean Chretien, explains proof as no other can. [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 729469 United States 07/19/2009 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1862 opinion of the U.S. Attorney General Quoting: entropyour constitution, in speaking of natural born citizens, uses no affirmative language to make them such, but only recognizes and reaffirms the universal principle, common to all nations, and as old as political society, that the people born in a country do constitute the nation, and, as individuals, are natural members of the body politic. 1857 opinion of Supreme Court Justice Benjamin R. Curtis The answer is obvious. The Constitution has left to the States the determination what person, born within their respective limits, shall acquire by birth citizenship of the United States Other countries laws never supercede our own. If Hawaii says he is a citizen, then he is a citizen. If Hawaii says he was born there, that makes him a natural born citizen. Dual citizenship is not mentioned in the constitution and until the time the supreme courts decide that it is not constitutional, dual citizenship does not disqualify someone from being President. Same useless pablum you posted on the other thread. Show us the real BC and we'll go away and never bring it up again! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 729469 United States 07/19/2009 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just show the proof, Barry. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380499Canadian ex-prime minister, Jean Chretien, explains proof as no other can. [link to www.youtube.com] Exactly. |
entropy User ID: 678498 United States 07/19/2009 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting to see how people vote on this indeed! Quoting: DruidEntropy... We can't prove Alien DNA without a sample and, well, understanding DNA a good bit better! But I would be happy to go over all of this is he was even part Alien. (Outer space alien, not just from another country.) :) my re-imaging(cover) of "Piggies" (The Beatles) and "Lights in the Sky" (Nine Inch Nails) is available to listen to now. Won't cost you a dime. Click below to hear it. [link to www.myspace.com] Over 1 Million plays, Most popular NIN Remix / Re imaging artist on myspace. I keep it separate: [link to www.myspace.com] archive: [link to www.vampirefreaks.com] Thanks. [link to www.facebook.com] aSBhbSB5b3VyIHNhdmlvcg0KaSBhbSBjb3JydXB0aW9uDQppIGFtIHRoZSBhbmdlbA0Kb2YgeW91ciBkZXN0cnVjdGlvbg0KaSBhbSBwZXJ2ZXJzaW9uDQpzZWNyZXQgZGVzaXJlDQppIGFtIHlvdXIgZnV0dXJlDQpzd2FsbG93ZWQgdXAgaW4gZmlyZQ== |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 380499 Canada 07/19/2009 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just show the proof, Barry. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 729469Canadian ex-prime minister, Jean Chretien, explains proof as no other can. [link to www.youtube.com] Exactly. He certainly cleared up the meaning of proof for me. |
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voice User ID: 729631 United States 07/19/2009 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP, you left out the category "HOW WOULD I KNOW?".......lol Last Edited by voice on 07/19/2009 09:03 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 422489 United States 07/19/2009 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As I see it, all will come to light by 2011 or sooner. Obama, 911, USS Liberty, Kennedy Assassination, Bush Election, Money Implosion everyone involved will have their past exposed. It's happening and will continue until the entire slate is uncovered. Involved ones should be scared, fear just doesn't work like it use to. |
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slym User ID: 519437 Canada 07/19/2009 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dobbs' radio show During his radio program, Dobbs stated: "hould he produce his birth certificate -- the long form, the real deal? Should he be a little more forthcoming? ... What is the deal here? I'm starting to think we have a -- we have a document issue. Do you suppose he's un -- no, I won't even use the word undocumented. It wouldn't be right." Dobbs later stated that when examining the birth certificate issue, at first he "thought, 'Here we go with the lunatic fringe. This is a bunch of quackeroos going after him.' " However, Dobbs said he now believes that there are "some issues here that should be really resolved" with Obama's birth certificate. During his program, Dobbs repeatedly faulted Obama for what he said was Obama's failure to definitively answer questions raised about his birth certificate: * Dobbs stated: "The first thing is to determine whether or not his birth certificate is valid. And what I don't understand is why that has not been released and given over to the public record." * After a caller said "something doesn't smell right" with Obama, Dobbs said that the "way to get rid of those odors is always just open the windows and let the sun shine in. And all we need here is a doggone document, but for some reason the president doesn't want to release that." * Dobbs said that in contrast to efforts undertaken by Sen. John McCain "to determine that he met the standard of natural-born citizen," there is "absolutely, you know, no effort to do so on the part of Barack H. Obama. Nor, as also our callers have pointed out, this president would not release his medical records. And the national media seemed to be fine with that, whereas they probably would have eviscerated John McCain for failing to do so." * After a caller theorized that Obama is rushing through programs because Obama "knows what's coming" with regard to the birth certificate lawsuits, Dobbs said: "Certainly your view can't be discounted at this point, because this president refused to provide the documentation that would settle all of the controversy here." * After a caller said she initially thought the birth certificate controversy was "the dumbest thing ever," Dobbs replied: DOBBS: Well, it is a dumb thing. I think we have to all admit this is a dumb thing either way, because, I mean, I can't understand why the president wouldn't just move to get this stuff out of the way. Show the documents, get it done -- I mean, he -- think about it. Dobbs also claimed that a soldier questioning Obama's citizenship "should be taken seriously. There are real questions here that need to be answered" and "reasonable people should be interested" in the birth certificate issue: DOBBS: I mean, because I got to be honest with everybody. When I started looking at this and the lawsuit -- Orly Taitz his attorney, for Major Cook, when he -- you know, I thought this is kind of peculiar. But I thought we should find out what's going on because, you know, it's a lawsuit -- a major who is -- he is, by the way, a combat veteran. Some people in the media have called him a coward; they are fools for doing so. But they're fools, anyway; it isn't this one instance that makes them fools. This is a man who should be taken seriously. There are real questions here that need to be answered. And people talk about, quote-unquote, the lunatic fringe are the only ones interested in this, and it turns out that reasonable people should be interested, and reasonable -- excuse me -- reasonable minds have to understand what's going on. And this can be dismissed with one -- the production of one simple little document, and that's a birth certificate. It's extraordinary. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 729795 United States 07/19/2009 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | * Dobbs stated: "The first thing is to determine whether or not his birth certificate is valid. And what I don't understand is why that has not been released and given over to the public record." Quoting: slym 519437* After a caller said "something doesn't smell right" with Obama, Dobbs said that the "way to get rid of those odors is always just open the windows and let the sun shine in. And all we need here is a doggone document, but for some reason the president doesn't want to release that." * Dobbs said that in contrast to efforts undertaken by Sen. John McCain "to determine that he met the standard of natural-born citizen," there is "absolutely, you know, no effort to do so on the part of Barack H. Obama. Nor, as also our callers have pointed out, this president would not release his medical records. And the national media seemed to be fine with that, whereas they probably would have eviscerated John McCain for failing to do so." Dobbs nailed it here. Let the sun shine in, Barry. |
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