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Triskele  (OP)

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07/20/2009 01:44 AM
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What scares me is how they say that bipolar disorder is a progressive disease and actually damages your brain like Alzheimer's.



Look, most of what they tell you about depression and bipolar is NOT TRUE.


Health care is a joke these days... they are not our friends.


Take heart... you can live a happy, healthy life just as easily as ANYONE.



I have always suspected that they (the docs) were just trying to scare me into taking their meds forever and trying to control me and test all their weird experiments on me. I wouldn't let them. I was so lucky that my parents said no way to electro shock therapy. I have seen some sad, sad cases of that.
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Ha. See...there I go. I type something that makes me sound crazy and paranoid and so totally manic then I go back and re-read it and I'm like wow...that sounded nuts. Something I would expect a paranoid everyones out to get me person to say.

But it doesn't seem like me when I read it. That's psychotic.

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anonymous coward
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Oh, and for God's sake, read Patricia Evans, "The Verbally Abusive Relationship." It does wonders.
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07/20/2009 01:45 AM
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I have bipolar and vitamins and natural remedies really do help but they are not a cure by any means.
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07/20/2009 01:45 AM
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Crunch fresh raw veggies...like a rabbit...crunch hydrating things like a cucumber, feel the crunch, taste the liquid, refreshing...very good for you. Raw veggies.
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07/20/2009 01:46 AM
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Get Vitamin d checked asap, take supplement, and when you feel sad turn the corners of your mouth up, it will trick the brain, it,s true
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07/20/2009 01:48 AM
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Get Vitamin d checked asap, take supplement, and when you feel sad turn the corners of your mouth up, it will trick the brain, it,s true
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I heard that, long ago, it's true, it works. Force a smile, and it tricks your brain chemicals into thinking you are happy - hence the happy chemicals get distributed through your being.
Triskele  (OP)

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07/20/2009 01:49 AM
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Let me guess. You also have men and women in your family who are discounting, belittling you, calling you crazy, making mean comments about you-otherwise known as "lobbing bombs" in your direction and then calling them jokes. You probably also have people who want you to help them achieve all their goals and desires, but who act like your ideas are just too stupid for reality. If this is now called bi-polar disorder instead of mental torture and abuse; then I imagine most women will be "bipolar" in very short order. I recommend having a screaming fucking fit and show the sorry mf'ers just how gd crazy your sorry ass can get. They don't seem to hear anything else, I know, I've tried.

Good Luck, darling!
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No. Not at all. I have a very tight, awesome family who is always there for me, spoils me rotten, and supports me no matter what. However, I do believe you are right that many, many people now a days are really throwing around the bipolar diagnose even before they've seen a doctor. It's about as popular as ADHD. I, on the other and am a certified case.
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What scares me is how they say that bipolar disorder is a progressive disease and actually damages your brain like Alzheimer's.



Look, most of what they tell you about depression and bipolar is NOT TRUE.


Health care is a joke these days... they are not our friends.


Take heart... you can live a happy, healthy life just as easily as ANYONE.



I have always suspected that they (the docs) were just trying to scare me into taking their meds forever and trying to control me and test all their weird experiments on me. I wouldn't let them. I was so lucky that my parents said no way to electro shock therapy. I have seen some sad, sad cases of that.



Ha. See...there I go. I type something that makes me sound crazy and paranoid and so totally manic then I go back and re-read it and I'm like wow...that sounded nuts. Something I would expect a paranoid everyones out to get me person to say.

But it doesn't seem like me when I read it. That's psychotic.
 Quoting: Triskele


Who has been telling you that you are crazy since you were little? Answer that one, sweetie. You only have to be told something 13 times before you will believe it, whether it's true or not. Some of us are made scapegoats for other weak people who can't deal with their own shit. Does that really mean you are nutz? Does getting out of control mean that you are crazy, when there really is a reason?

My husband gets onto me about being "down" on myself. Then he turns around and slams me as crazy and worthless, but only if I start forcing him to deal with his discomfort issue-his parents. It took me a long time to figure it out, but I have it now. Yesterday, I had the mother of all rage fits and I went right to His Dad to do it. The SOB thought that I wouldn't call him on his oppressive BS. Scared the compound shit out of him. I'm not proud of it and it took everything I had just to lob enough verbal bullets and granades at those two hard-headed assholes so that they could feel the stinging that they have been putting on me. It's not an ideal solution, but I can't sleep all the time and I can't live taking the blame for two childish asswipes who can't leave the fuckin 60's 40 years in the past! Screw it!
Triskele  (OP)

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Let me guess. You also have men and women in your family who are discounting, belittling you, calling you crazy, making mean comments about you-otherwise known as "lobbing bombs" in your direction and then calling them jokes. You probably also have people who want you to help them achieve all their goals and desires, but who act like your ideas are just too stupid for reality. If this is now called bi-polar disorder instead of mental torture and abuse; then I imagine most women will be "bipolar" in very short order. I recommend having a screaming fucking fit and show the sorry mf'ers just how gd crazy your sorry ass can get. They don't seem to hear anything else, I know, I've tried.

Good Luck, darling!



No. Not at all. I have a very tight, awesome family who is always there for me, spoils me rotten, and supports me no matter what. However, I do believe you are right that many, many people now a days are really throwing around the bipolar diagnose even before they've seen a doctor. It's about as popular as ADHD. I, on the other and am a certified case.
 Quoting: Triskele



Wait. I totally read your post wrong. Sorry. I am finally starting to get tired and am not understanding things apparently. LOL My wiring is off.
hf
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I am certified too. Not bipolar, but I feel for you people who live that...

I wake up in the mornings in shear fucking panic, no reason why. Just happens. They say it's panic disorder, and ptsd. I have been hospitalized twice for it. Was forced to stay in there for 5 weeks once. Now I take 10 mgms of Olanzapine every night. It's been a godsend, really, I am able to cope with the episodes when they occur, much better now because I understand my illness, and take my meds religiously. Could be for the rest of my life. My doctor told me I would have to take it indefinitely...which means possibly forever. I had to accept it. I am doing well.
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07/20/2009 02:06 AM
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Wow. You posters described me! I havent been diagnosed with bipolar but I have moderate to extreme anxiety from ptsd.

Ive not been feeling too hot lately myself but this 'low' I was expecting. I do completely understand the highs. Its like youre on top of the world kicking ass, an unstoppable titan. Then all my nerves start firing and the pain sets in and the titan crumbles. Here she sits on glp ticking off another sleepless night.


Im also bipolar ad have had the same experience.My moods were always generally really happy or adgitated. I have been living untreated medically my whole life, and enjoy the extremes of my personality, but latley ive been getting really depressed. I have this overwhelming shallow lonliness that takes me in. Its almost like a craving for something deeper and more meaningfull. I find walking outside helps. also meditating and being watchfull of your state of mind and alow the feeling to wash over you, but know it is not yours to hang on to.



I've been feeling not right lately too! The funny thing is I also took myself off meds because I enjoyed the fact that I had such a strong personality both ways and enjoy the extremes and really really feeling my emotions BUT it is so easy to lose control and so many damaging things can happen before you even know what hit you. I fear that all the time I almost go into a black out state where in the end I look back and it seems like I am talking about someone else who did the things I actually did. Scary.
 Quoting: Triskele


I can relate to your blackout state and it is scary. I do agree with Triskele about the meditation - if not, then what I call sanctuary or a place that brings peace and calm.
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07/20/2009 02:08 AM
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Am now 66YO, had bipo since 28YO, medication, shock, talk, been there done that (all of it) If you can, long hard walks has worked best for me while "up" (good isn't it?) lots of sleep when down (escape)
Don't know about loosing it (brain) maybe I am a halfwit now but I seem to function OK I think.
Just accept it and live with it best you can, easy way out is medication, your choice.
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07/20/2009 02:14 AM
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I have felt strange and very exhausted the last few weeks. I am not the only either. Many people I know have felt as if a heavy weight has come over them. Many of us are feeling like something is off, making us feel very bad lately.

I think 'some one' is doing something to make us all feel very bad.
Triskele  (OP)

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07/20/2009 02:20 AM
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I have felt strange and very exhausted the last few weeks. I am not the only either. Many people I know have felt as if a heavy weight has come over them. Many of us are feeling like something is off, making us feel very bad lately.

I think 'some one' is doing something to make us all feel very bad.
 Quoting: Prophet 675685



I agree that something is off. That's the only way to explain it. Like some worldwide doom sensation. Hmm.
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07/20/2009 02:24 AM
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Sorry to hear that so many people are "diagnosed" as being bipolar.

How were you diagnosed? Was there a scientific test done that proved you were bipolar? Or did you just talk to a psych person and they made the judgement?

What's that? Oh, yeah right, THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC TEST TO PROVE SOMEONE IS BIPOLAR, OR THAT THE CONDITION OF "BIPOLAR" EVEN EXISTS.

It's a made up disorder, like so many, many others. All designed to get you hooked on big pharma's crazy drugs. Don't be fooled folks. They have not one single shred of SCIENTIFIC proof that the chemical cocktails they feed people in pill form are necessary in any way.
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07/20/2009 11:21 AM
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Try marrying one.
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07/20/2009 11:22 AM
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Sorry to hear that so many people are "diagnosed" as being bipolar.

How were you diagnosed? Was there a scientific test done that proved you were bipolar? Or did you just talk to a psych person and they made the judgement?

What's that? Oh, yeah right, THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC TEST TO PROVE SOMEONE IS BIPOLAR, OR THAT THE CONDITION OF "BIPOLAR" EVEN EXISTS.

It's a made up disorder, like so many, many others. All designed to get you hooked on big pharma's crazy drugs. Don't be fooled folks. They have not one single shred of SCIENTIFIC proof that the chemical cocktails they feed people in pill form are necessary in any way.
 Quoting: superNerd 701101


Obviously you have never lived or had a friend with Bipolar, quit being so ignorant.

Made up my ass
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07/20/2009 12:08 PM
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Try to buy some Lithium Minerals,and if u used calcium,stop using it.I'm trying for 3 months to buy some Lithium minerals but i got no luck...why?because it's natural and healthy,i'm sure that if i want to buy Tramal or other BS they don't even ask for the prescription.
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07/20/2009 12:15 PM
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I've suffered mood swings since I was 13. They were more than just teenage angst. 53 now, diag. as BP since age 34. On SSDI since then. Everyone is different. What works for me may not work for you and vice versa. So you have to research your options and use your best judgment. If first idea doesn't work, try another. Give them a good shot. You may find success with merging 2 failed ideas, as opposed to trying one exclusively. When I get down I limit my activities and decision making. Best of luck!
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07/20/2009 12:25 PM
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It is frustrating to deal with someone whom is bipolar. Can you really ever trust them? I worry about a friend that loses control and even once ended up in jail. I am angry at having to worry about him. Several times, I convinced him to go home before he got into serious trouble. I have little experience with this disorder. I have read that friendships and relationships usually implode after even one really bad episode. Any advice from you that declare suffering from this?





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