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Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'

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Guns n' God
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SAO PAULO – Israel's foreign minister ran into controversy on the first day of a Latin American trip Tuesday when an official of Brazil's ruling party reportedly called him a "fascist."

Israel's Haaretz newspaper reported that Valter Pomar, secretary of international relations for the Workers Party, said that Avigdor "Lieberman is a racist and a fascist" during an interview.

Haaretz reported that Pomar also said that "the Brazilian left is organizing protests" against Lieberman "and against the policy he represents."

The left-leaning Workers Party has long been sharply critical of Israel's policies toward Palestinians, and Lieberman has advocated a tough line on Israel's Arab minority.

He has suggested redrawing Israel's borders to push areas with heavy concentrations of its Arab citizens outside the country and under Palestinian jurisdiction, while requiring those who remain to sign an oath of loyalty to the Jewish state. Some 20 percent of Israel's 7 million citizens are Arabs.

Lieberman's 10-day trip is meant to battle growing Iranian influence in the region and to push trade. He is expected to meet with Brazil's President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva — a founder of the Workers Party — on Wednesday.

Pomar was traveling and unavailable for comment, a party spokeswoman said. She declined to comment on the Haaretz report.

A spokeswoman for Silva said Pomar's words "were just his own opinion and have nothing to do with the government. In fact, they were quite rude." She spoke on condition of anonymity, citing department rules.

Iran's ambassador to Brazil, Moshen Shaterzadeh, said Monday that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will also visit Brazil. He didn't give a date.

Lieberman was meeting with an industry group, leaders of the local Jewish community and the governor of Sao Paulo state on Tuesday.

He also has planned stops in Argentina, Peru and Colombia, but is bypassing the South American nations most closely allied with Iran — Venezuela and Bolivia.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and Bolivian President Evo Morales are strong supporters of Ahmadinejad and have solidified links with Tehran through trade deals.

Both countries broke off ties with Israel in January to protest a military offensive in the Gaza Strip.

Dorit Shavit, a top Israeli diplomat for Latin America, told the Colombian newspaper El Tiempo that Hezbollah cells are operating on Venezuela's Margarita Island and along the Venezuelan-Colombian border.

"There are many mosques that serve not only as places of worship, but also to collect money that's sent to the Middle East," she was quoted as saying in an interview published Sunday.

In a statement on Tuesday, Venezuela's Foreign Ministry called those allegations "ridiculous."

President Hugo Chavez, meanwhile, complained that the allegations — combined with a recent U.S. congressional report criticizing Venezuela's anti-drug efforts, and Colombia's decision to allow the U.S. to expand its military presence in that country — constitute "aggression."

"It's an attack formation against Venezuela," Chavez said.

[link to news.yahoo.com]
Anonymous Coward
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7/22/2009 12:55 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

actually, the whole israeli govt is about as ANTI-SEMITIC as you can get!
ANTI - ISREAL
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7/22/2009 12:58 AM
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IS NOT ANT-SEMITIC...

if he had made the statement about people of the jewish FAITH...

that may have been...
The Monk
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7/22/2009 12:58 AM
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SAO PAULO – Israel's foreign minister ran into controversy on the first day of a Latin American trip Tuesday when an official of Brazil's ruling party reportedly called him a "fascist."

Israel's Haaretz newspaper reported that Valter Pomar, secretary of international relations for the Workers Party, said that Avigdor "Lieberman is a racist and a fascist" during an interview.

Haaretz reported that Pomar also said that "the Brazilian left is organizing protests" against Lieberman "and against the policy he represents."

The left-leaning Workers Party has long been sharply critical of Israel's policies toward Palestinians, and Lieberman has advocated a tough line on Israel's Arab minority.

He has suggested redrawing Israel's borders to push areas with heavy concentrations of its Arab citizens outside the country and under Palestinian jurisdiction, while requiring those who remain to sign an oath of loyalty to the Jewish state. Some 20 percent of Israel's 7 million citizens are Arabs.

Lieberman's 10-day trip is meant to battle growing Iranian influence in the region and to push trade. He is expected to meet with Brazil's President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva — a founder of the Workers Party — on Wednesday.

Pomar was traveling and unavailable for comment, a party spokeswoman said. She declined to comment on the Haaretz report.

A spokeswoman for Silva said Pomar's words "were just his own opinion and have nothing to do with the government. In fact, they were quite rude." She spoke on condition of anonymity, citing department rules.

Iran's ambassador to Brazil, Moshen Shaterzadeh, said Monday that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will also visit Brazil. He didn't give a date.

Lieberman was meeting with an industry group, leaders of the local Jewish community and the governor of Sao Paulo state on Tuesday.

He also has planned stops in Argentina, Peru and Colombia, but is bypassing the South American nations most closely allied with Iran — Venezuela and Bolivia.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and Bolivian President Evo Morales are strong supporters of Ahmadinejad and have solidified links with Tehran through trade deals.

Both countries broke off ties with Israel in January to protest a military offensive in the Gaza Strip.

Dorit Shavit, a top Israeli diplomat for Latin America, told the Colombian newspaper El Tiempo that Hezbollah cells are operating on Venezuela's Margarita Island and along the Venezuelan-Colombian border.

"There are many mosques that serve not only as places of worship, but also to collect money that's sent to the Middle East," she was quoted as saying in an interview published Sunday.

In a statement on Tuesday, Venezuela's Foreign Ministry called those allegations "ridiculous."

President Hugo Chavez, meanwhile, complained that the allegations — combined with a recent U.S. congressional report criticizing Venezuela's anti-drug efforts, and Colombia's decision to allow the U.S. to expand its military presence in that country — constitute "aggression."

"It's an attack formation against Venezuela," Chavez said.

[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Guns n' God


Adolph Lieberman is a fascist pig and one is not "anti-semitic" to point that one out. Israel has some pretty wacked out inhabitants. It's a magnet for religious and ethnic extremists. That's probably why all the normal people that grow up there leave- a lot like parts of the South if you ask me. Leave or succumb to the brainwashing.
Guns n' God
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7/22/2009 1:00 AM
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actually, the whole israeli govt is about as ANTI-SEMITIC as you can get!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 491785

Don't get all technical, anti-Semitic in the Jewish sense of word is what I meant.

Avigdor Lieberman happens to be a patriot and protector of the Israeli people. Liberals hate those with a strong sense of nationalism.
Anonymous Coward
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7/22/2009 1:02 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Being opposed to Israel is NOT ANTI-SEMITISM!
Guns n' God
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7/22/2009 1:02 AM
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Being opposed to Israel is NOT ANTI-SEMITISM!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 728724

Yes, that's exactly what it is, you damned Nazi!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 731413
New Zealand
7/22/2009 1:06 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Being opposed to Israel is NOT ANTI-SEMITISM!

Yes, that's exactly what it is, you damned Nazi!
 Quoting: Guns n' God

guns .n god .you are full of bsflag
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 645417
Netherlands
7/22/2009 1:06 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Destroying the Palestinian people in the manner they do is fascist in every sense of the word. Jewish or not.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491785
United States
7/22/2009 1:07 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

actually, the whole israeli govt is about as ANTI-SEMITIC as you can get!

Don't get all technical, anti-Semitic in the Jewish sense of word is what I meant.

Avigdor Lieberman happens to be a patriot and protector of the Israeli people. Liberals hate those with a strong sense of nationalism.
 Quoting: Guns n' God


there is no 'jewsish sense of the word' if one calls anti-semitic, it applies equally to any group within the semite cultures... except of course the false ashke-nazi eastern european jews who have NO ROOTS OR HERITAGE IN ANY OF THE SEMITIC TRIBES OR IN ANY PART OF THE MIDDLE EAST WHATSOEVER!
Anonymous Coward
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7/22/2009 1:08 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Being opposed to Israel is NOT ANTI-SEMITISM!

Yes, that's exactly what it is, you damned Nazi!
 Quoting: Guns n' God


the 'nazis' currently occupy the state of palestine and have since the end of ww2.
Guns n' God
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7/22/2009 1:10 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Destroying the Palestinian people in the manner they do is fascist in every sense of the word. Jewish or not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 645417

The Palestinians should just leave. Oh, yeah, that's right, not even Egypt or Lebanon will take them in.

But, seriously, I'm all in favor of the position espoused by some Israelis that they give every Palestinian who agrees to leave on their enough money to find a new place to live. It would be the most peaceful solution possible.
Guns n' God
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7/22/2009 1:11 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Being opposed to Israel is NOT ANTI-SEMITISM!

Yes, that's exactly what it is, you damned Nazi!


the 'nazis' currently occupy the state of palestine and have since the end of ww2.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 491785

Shame on you, Jew-hater! It was their land to begin with!
Anonymous Coward
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7/22/2009 1:12 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Destroying the Palestinian people in the manner they do is fascist in every sense of the word. Jewish or not.

The Palestinians should just leave. Oh, yeah, that's right, not even Egypt or Lebanon will take them in.

But, seriously, I'm all in favor of the position espoused by some Israelis that they give every Palestinian who agrees to leave on their enough money to find a new place to live. It would be the most peaceful solution possible.
 Quoting: Guns n' God


actually they should just ship all the jews back eourope.
Guns n' God
User ID: 717392
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7/22/2009 1:13 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Destroying the Palestinian people in the manner they do is fascist in every sense of the word. Jewish or not.

The Palestinians should just leave. Oh, yeah, that's right, not even Egypt or Lebanon will take them in.

But, seriously, I'm all in favor of the position espoused by some Israelis that they give every Palestinian who agrees to leave on their enough money to find a new place to live. It would be the most peaceful solution possible.


actually they should just ship all the jews back eourope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 491785

You should be shipped to a prison camp!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491785
United States
7/22/2009 1:13 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Being opposed to Israel is NOT ANTI-SEMITISM!

Yes, that's exactly what it is, you damned Nazi!


the 'nazis' currently occupy the state of palestine and have since the end of ww2.

Shame on you, Jew-hater! It was their land to begin with!
 Quoting: Guns n' God


it was the israelites land, who's blood still exists within the palestinian population, and which ashke-nazi jews have no connection to.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491785
United States
7/22/2009 1:14 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Destroying the Palestinian people in the manner they do is fascist in every sense of the word. Jewish or not.

The Palestinians should just leave. Oh, yeah, that's right, not even Egypt or Lebanon will take them in.

But, seriously, I'm all in favor of the position espoused by some Israelis that they give every Palestinian who agrees to leave on their enough money to find a new place to live. It would be the most peaceful solution possible.


actually they should just ship all the jews back eourope.

You should be shipped to a prison camp!
 Quoting: Guns n' God


so who's the nazi now?
Lunaticus Maximus
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7/22/2009 1:14 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Guns 'n God is anti-semitic.
Soldier of Love
Guns n' God
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7/22/2009 1:15 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Being opposed to Israel is NOT ANTI-SEMITISM!

Yes, that's exactly what it is, you damned Nazi!


the 'nazis' currently occupy the state of palestine and have since the end of ww2.

Shame on you, Jew-hater! It was their land to begin with!


it was the israelites land, who's blood still exists within the palestinian population, and which ashke-nazi jews have no connection to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 491785

Hogwash!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702212
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7/22/2009 1:15 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Brazil's ruling party reportedly called him a "fascist."
 Quoting: Guns n' God


Wow! That is CrimeThink.

I'm sure the israeli prime minister will simply order his lackey - president obama - to send the bombers.
Maximus Interruptus Subscriber
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7/22/2009 1:16 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

If you a person a fascist, and if that person is gentile, then there is no issue, right ?

But if you call a person a fascist, and that person is jewish, then we have an issue, yes ?

Is this how we are understand your post ?

One form of anti-semitism is when ALL jews are lumped together as a single group.

You sir/madam or doing this.

How about we let Valter Pomar say what he wants, regardless of Mr. Lieberman's ethnicity and heritage. Is this OK with you ?

And he called him a fascist. Maybe his is, maybe he isn't. Sounds like Mr. Pomar is ANTI-FASCIST doesn't it?

Last, let's let Mr. Lieberman deal with issue instead of it having to go to the courts of public opinion. He a big boy and he can handle himself.
silence is golden....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491785
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7/22/2009 1:16 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Being opposed to Israel is NOT ANTI-SEMITISM!

Yes, that's exactly what it is, you damned Nazi!


the 'nazis' currently occupy the state of palestine and have since the end of ww2.

Shame on you, Jew-hater! It was their land to begin with!


it was the israelites land, who's blood still exists within the palestinian population, and which ashke-nazi jews have no connection to.

Hogwash!
 Quoting: Guns n' God


its true.
Guns n' God
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7/22/2009 1:17 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Guns 'n God is anti-semitic.
 Quoting: Lunaticus Maximus

I'm emphatically PRO-SEMITIC, dammit!
JADR
User ID: 617358
Australia
7/22/2009 1:18 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

actually, the whole israeli govt is about as ANTI-SEMITIC as you can get!

Don't get all technical, anti-Semitic in the Jewish sense of word is what I meant.

Avigdor Lieberman happens to be a patriot and protector of the Israeli people. Liberals hate those with a strong sense of nationalism.
 Quoting: Guns n' God

Exactly!
Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

jadr-glp@hotmail.com
Guns n' God
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7/22/2009 1:19 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Brazil's ruling party reportedly called him a "fascist."



Wow! That is CrimeThink.

I'm sure the israeli prime minister will simply order his lackey - president obama - to send the bombers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702212

How the hell is Obama an Israeli lackey?! The guy has been nothing but a headache for our friends in Tel Aviv.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491785
United States
7/22/2009 1:19 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Guns 'n God is anti-semitic.

I'm emphatically PRO-SEMITIC, dammit!
 Quoting: Guns n' God


selectively, or do embrace all members of all semite culture?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 648271
United States
7/22/2009 1:19 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Destroying the Palestinian people in the manner they do is fascist in every sense of the word. Jewish or not.

The Palestinians should just leave. Oh, yeah, that's right, not even Egypt or Lebanon will take them in.

But, seriously, I'm all in favor of the position espoused by some Israelis that they give every Palestinian who agrees to leave on their enough money to find a new place to live. It would be the most peaceful solution possible.


actually they should just ship all the jews back eourope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 491785

Would europe take them?
Antartican
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7/22/2009 1:24 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Leibermann is one the most rascist and fascist men on the planet. Its a sad and insulting fact to any nation that this man is involved in Israeli politics.

If any country were to redraw their countries borders to exclude jews it would be considered a crime against humanity and liebermann would be one the first crying about it, yet when the shoe is on the other foot, its ok to kick the Arabs out of Israel. Perhaps someone should remind this tool what the nazis did to his people and ask him to look in the mirror, he is a fascist and nothing but an obstacle for Israeli's and the rest of the world.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491785
United States
7/22/2009 1:24 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

Destroying the Palestinian people in the manner they do is fascist in every sense of the word. Jewish or not.

The Palestinians should just leave. Oh, yeah, that's right, not even Egypt or Lebanon will take them in.

But, seriously, I'm all in favor of the position espoused by some Israelis that they give every Palestinian who agrees to leave on their enough money to find a new place to live. It would be the most peaceful solution possible.


actually they should just ship all the jews back eourope.

Would europe take them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 648271


actually, they should only ship the zionist war-monger jews back to whatever countries the emigrated to palestine from. any peace-loving jew can stay and exist ON EQUAL FOOTING with their palestinian brethren, as they did for centuries, before the western fascist nation decided to occupy palestine at the end of ww2. the eventual goal being to secure all middle east resources.
DanG
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7/22/2009 1:26 AM
Re: Report: ANTI-SEMITIC Brazil official calls Israeli FM 'fascist'Quote

How the hell is Obama an Israeli lackey?! The guy has been nothing but a headache for our friends in Tel Aviv.
 Quoting: Guns n' God


friends in tel aviv -- HA HA HA

idiot

Anonymous Coward
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7/22/2009 1:26 AM
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