Sorry, but not president is going to abolish the Fed. It just is not going to happen any time soon. So yes, I concentrate more on the social issues, science, the environment, etc than on the economy which has been fucked up beyond repair for some time.
aldoushuxley User ID: 534327 United States 7/24/2009 7:40 PM
I won't even pretend that I know what is good for the economy. I like Obama in all other respects, so I'm going to trust that what he's doing is good, until I find reason to think otherwise.
Perhaps if you knew a bit more about what Obama's economic policies, you might not be such a supporter of the blind alley he is leading you down.
Care to give a brief overview?
Read every pinned topic from to back and then get back to us. You can lead horse to water but cannot make him drink.
I've tried. No one has done a good job of explaining this shit. And yes, I've seen the videos and shit about the economy like the Zeitgeist films and the Money Makers.
Quoting: Billy Joel
I'll exlain it:
We need money.
We take out loans from foreign countries.
No one is buying out debts anymore.
The Fed purchases bonds (or loans) by increasing money supply.
Inflation.
Rinse, lather, repeat.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 732015 Portugal 7/24/2009 7:40 PM
I don't believe you. Two years ago--according to GLP--we were supposed to be homeless in bread lines in a nuclear wasteland by now and that isn't even CLOSE to happening. Nice try.
Quoting: Billy Joel
That was YOUR conclusion! I frequented GLP for several years and I never came to that conclusion.
On the other side, I have ears to hear and eyes to see. And a brain to think, which also helps in understanding what happens around you!
KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 681141 United States 7/24/2009 7:40 PM
You won't have to wait for long. YOUR life will change. And what a change!
You people have been saying this for years and NOTHING like that has happened.
Do you know the story of the frog and boilling water? That's your recent past. But now things are accelerating, and Obama is the Chief-Accelerator!
I don't believe you. Two years ago--according to GLP--we were supposed to be homeless in bread lines in a nuclear wasteland by now and that isn't even CLOSE to happening. Nice try.
Quoting: Billy Joel
Oh, but wait.... I GET IT.. THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT!!!!!!!!!! WHY DON'T YOU JUST MOVE TO RUSSIA/CHINA SO THE REST OF THE USA DOESN'T HAVE TO GO WITH UR DUMB ASS! "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come."
Billy Joel User ID: 729203 United States 7/24/2009 7:41 PM
Radical muslims want us dead, or at the very least suppressed and mind controlled like themselves. I see no difference between them and you.
How do I want us dead and mind controlled? Please explain.
Maybe you personally don't want us dead, but you're willing to give up what freedoms we have left and to make nice with our enemies, thus giving them the upper hand. It's too late for you. You're already a puppet. Enjoy your ignorant bliss while you can.
Quoting: SubarcticBeef
They are not our enemies.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 696222 United States 7/24/2009 7:41 PM
I have been an Obama supporter since he announced his candidacy for president back in 2007. I voted for him both in the Democratic primary and the general.
I for one am extremely pleased with what he has accomplished and I could not have asked for a better president.
There is no buyers' remorse here. Not one ounce.
No remorse here either. President Obama is finally coming out and headbutting people and stepping on some toes here and there. It's great!
To be honest, I'm glad he's being criticized more too.People have been brewing so long for the time when they could criticize him, they go it. Now, it can only get old after a while, when the novelty wears off. Like a kid who buys a toy in the store, he has to wait until he gets home to open it, plays with it, then, eventually moves on to something else. By criticizing him, people begin to finally stomach he can't solve every problem; therefore, there will soon be less disappointment if he can't deliver on every promise.
McCain would have been a terrible choice. The fact Palin would have occupied the same house as Lincoln and FDR is a nightmare.
ANd I got to hand it to the guy...He is delivering so far on his promises, no matter how unpopular. He promised health care reform...he's doing it!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 696222
Anonymous Coward User ID: 732015 Portugal 7/24/2009 7:42 PM
I don't believe you. Two years ago--according to GLP--we were supposed to be homeless in bread lines in a nuclear wasteland by now and that isn't even CLOSE to happening. Nice try.
That was YOUR conclusion! I frequented GLP for several years and I never came to that conclusion.
On the other side, I have ears to hear and eyes to see. And a brain to think, which also helps in understanding what happens around you!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 732015
It seems to me that you have a need to believe that is too strong, and unhealthily so!
aldoushuxley User ID: 534327 United States 7/24/2009 7:43 PM
Sorry, but not president is going to abolish the Fed. It just is not going to happen any time soon. So yes, I concentrate more on the social issues, science, the environment, etc than on the economy which has been fucked up beyond repair for some time.
Quoting: Billy Joel
Economy was fucked by Clinton. Bush skullfucked it. Obama is slowly cutting the skin off of the body, and calling it "emergency surgery".
Healthcare could be covered next year, not this year when we are expanding our debt to unknown levels, plus other countries contemplate a replacement to the dollar as a reserve currency.
The fact you do nothing in face of Obama not doing anything with the Fed is disgusting. You simply brush it aside?!?
THE SEX PERVERT SPITZER EVEN ADMITTED IT!
aldoushuxley User ID: 534327 United States 7/24/2009 7:44 PM
Radical muslims want us dead, or at the very least suppressed and mind controlled like themselves. I see no difference between them and you.
How do I want us dead and mind controlled? Please explain.
Maybe you personally don't want us dead, but you're willing to give up what freedoms we have left and to make nice with our enemies, thus giving them the upper hand. It's too late for you. You're already a puppet. Enjoy your ignorant bliss while you can.
They are not our enemies.
Quoting: Billy Joel
No, but it seems the enemies are the same: lifeless drones who spit out whatever the fucking government tells them. Which includes you sir.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 711980 United States 7/24/2009 7:44 PM
I have been an Obama supporter since he announced his candidacy for president back in 2007. I voted for him both in the Democratic primary and the general.
I for one am extremely pleased with what he has accomplished and I could not have asked for a better president.
There is no buyers' remorse here. Not one ounce.
Quoting: Billy Joel
Complete agree, even as a right leaning libertarian.
There is so much corruption in this country and the masses are so ignorant we needed a fascist like obama to ruin everything. We would have continued to putt along with band aids attempting to cover our gaping deficiencies.
People need to read our history and understand how much was sacrificed by the founding fathers. Only to have us piss it all away.
KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 681141 United States 7/24/2009 7:44 PM
Radical muslims want us dead, or at the very least suppressed and mind controlled like themselves. I see no difference between them and you.
How do I want us dead and mind controlled? Please explain.
Maybe you personally don't want us dead, but you're willing to give up what freedoms we have left and to make nice with our enemies, thus giving them the upper hand. It's too late for you. You're already a puppet. Enjoy your ignorant bliss while you can.
I have been an Obama supporter since he announced his candidacy for president back in 2007. I voted for him both in the Democratic primary and the general.
I for one am extremely pleased with what he has accomplished and I could not have asked for a better president.
There is no buyers' remorse here. Not one ounce.
Complete agree, even as a right leaning libertarian.
There is so much corruption in this country and the masses are so ignorant we needed a fascist like obama to ruin everything. We would have continued to putt along with band aids attempting to cover our gaping deficiencies.
People need to read our history and understand how much was sacrificed by the founding fathers. Only to have us piss it all away.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711980
Obama is bush. You honestly think there's going to be change?
TPTB CONTROL YOU SLAVE.
aldoushuxley User ID: 534327 United States 7/24/2009 7:47 PM
That money should be held back to bail out the 47 States who are running out of Unemployment Insurance since the bottom has not hit yet. Even bailing out the States is not a Federal responsibility, but many States are using those funds for this purpose.
2. The Federal Reserve
Obama has increased the power of the Fed to oversee 'failing companies' of Financial importance, much like the FDIC shuts down banks. The problem with this is that the Fed is not accountable to Congress.
3. GM & Chyrsler Bailout
Obama subordinated secured creditors in deference to unsecured creditors, i.e., Bond holders displaced by Common Stock holders. This throws out contract law as we knew it, and Obama used his power of the Presidency to coerce the deal's completion.
4. Health Care
Such a dramatic change in how US handles this issue shows either how desperate Obama is for 'change,' or how naive he is to think that this mess can be straightened out in 2 months of haggling when the problem is 40 years old.
President's are figureheads of the Big Bucks that put them in power. I did somewhat prefer Baracko over McCain, but for all Obama's talk of 'transparency,' let's put the Birth Certificate issue to rest. Let's see it!
aldoushuxley User ID: 534327 United States 7/24/2009 7:48 PM
Radical muslims want us dead, or at the very least suppressed and mind controlled like themselves. I see no difference between them and you.
How do I want us dead and mind controlled? Please explain.
Maybe you personally don't want us dead, but you're willing to give up what freedoms we have left and to make nice with our enemies, thus giving them the upper hand. It's too late for you. You're already a puppet. Enjoy your ignorant bliss while you can.
They are not our enemies.
Quoting: Billy Joel
Yeah they are. They are in direct conflict with our Constitution which equals freedom and liberty and fairness. You need to be shot.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 711980 United States 7/24/2009 7:53 PM
I have been an Obama supporter since he announced his candidacy for president back in 2007. I voted for him both in the Democratic primary and the general.
I for one am extremely pleased with what he has accomplished and I could not have asked for a better president.
There is no buyers' remorse here. Not one ounce.
Complete agree, even as a right leaning libertarian.
There is so much corruption in this country and the masses are so ignorant we needed a fascist like obama to ruin everything. We would have continued to putt along with band aids attempting to cover our gaping deficiencies.
People need to read our history and understand how much was sacrificed by the founding fathers. Only to have us piss it all away.
Obama is bush. You honestly think there's going to be change?
TPTB CONTROL YOU SLAVE.
Quoting: aldoushuxley
Did you read my post? obama will push the producers to the breaking point. Because of his extreme actions we will have the change. If we would have had mccain we would most likely coasted along for 4 years.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 721883 United States 7/24/2009 7:54 PM
That money should be held back to bail out the 47 States who are running out of Unemployment Insurance since the bottom has not hit yet. Even bailing out the States is not a Federal responsibility, but many States are using those funds for this purpose.
2. The Federal Reserve
Obama has increased the power of the Fed to oversee 'failing companies' of Financial importance, much like the FDIC shuts down banks. The problem with this is that the Fed is not accountable to Congress.
3. GM & Chyrsler Bailout
Obama subordinated secured creditors in deference to unsecured creditors, i.e., Bond holders displaced by Common Stock holders. This throws out contract law as we knew it, and Obama used his power of the Presidency to coerce the deal's completion.
4. Health Care
Such a dramatic change in how US handles this issue shows either how desperate Obama is for 'change,' or how naive he is to think that this mess can be straightened out in 2 months of haggling when the problem is 40 years old.
President's are figureheads of the Big Bucks that put them in power. I did somewhat prefer Baracko over McCain, but for all Obama's talk of 'transparency,' let's put the Birth Certificate issue to rest. Let's see it!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 733863
The MORON Op can't understand big words like that.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 696222 United States 7/24/2009 7:55 PM
I have been an Obama supporter since he announced his candidacy for president back in 2007. I voted for him both in the Democratic primary and the general.
I for one am extremely pleased with what he has accomplished and I could not have asked for a better president.
There is no buyers' remorse here. Not one ounce.
No remorse here either. President Obama is finally coming out and headbutting people and stepping on some toes here and there. It's great!
To be honest, I'm glad he's being criticized more too.People have been brewing so long for the time when they could criticize him, they go it. Now, it can only get old after a while, when the novelty wears off. Like a kid who buys a toy in the store, he has to wait until he gets home to open it, plays with it, then, eventually moves on to something else. By criticizing him, people begin to finally stomach he can't solve every problem; therefore, there will soon be less disappointment if he can't deliver on every promise.
McCain would have been a terrible choice. The fact Palin would have occupied the same house as Lincoln and FDR is a nightmare.
ANd I got to hand it to the guy...He is delivering so far on his promises, no matter how unpopular. He promised health care reform...he's doing it!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 696222
Anonymous Coward User ID: 731812 United States 7/24/2009 8:04 PM
I have been an Obama supporter since he announced his candidacy for president back in 2007. I voted for him both in the Democratic primary and the general.
I for one am extremely pleased with what he has accomplished and I could not have asked for a better president.
There is no buyers' remorse here. Not one ounce.
Quoting: Billy Joel
When your expectations are low enough even obamalamadingdong can meet them. non sufficit Orbis
Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.
"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"
Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill
Anonymous Coward User ID: 659821 United States 7/24/2009 11:59 PM
I'm glad he won, too. Of course, I'd rather have Ron Paul. BUT, when it became apparent Paul wouldn't be allowed near the WH I was rooting for Obama. I knew the right wing in this country needed a serious wake up call and that they'd just stay asleep under McCain while more Patriot Acts were passed, more restrictive legislation, more rights being thrown away, more wars, etc., etc.
Obama has made me very happy in that the right is FINALLY paying attention to what has happened and has been happening in this country. Problem now is most (not all, some are coming out of their Obama worship reveries) of the left have gone to sleep...
Ugh. I'd rather have a wide awake right, though. They are more likely to actually take a stand and defend this country instead of signing pointless petitions and sending in Code Pink.
Billy Joel User ID: 729203 United States 7/25/2009 12:04 AM
I'm glad he won, too. Of course, I'd rather have Ron Paul. BUT, when it became apparent Paul wouldn't be allowed near the WH I was rooting for Obama. I knew the right wing in this country needed a serious wake up call and that they'd just stay asleep under McCain while more Patriot Acts were passed, more restrictive legislation, more rights being thrown away, more wars, etc., etc.
Obama has made me very happy in that the right is FINALLY paying attention to what has happened and has been happening in this country. Problem now is most (not all, some are coming out of their Obama worship reveries) of the left have gone to sleep...
Ugh. I'd rather have a wide awake right, though. They are more likely to actually take a stand and defend this country instead of signing pointless petitions and sending in Code Pink.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 659821
Yeah I definitely identify more with the left, but their incessant political correctness can irritate me at times. Also, their naivety can be a bit much.
I liked aspects of Ron Paul too, but I wanted a true liberal in office when it came down to it. The Dems are in the pocket of the elite just as much as the right, but at least they are pushing an agenda that I agree with for the most part.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 429261 United States 7/25/2009 11:08 PM
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