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3 Russians 9 Iranian Nuclear Scientists killed, in Iran air crash? ... coincidence?

 
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MOSCOW, July 25 (RIA Novosti) - Three Russian nationals were killed and one injured in Friday's air crash in Iran, the Foreign Ministry said Saturday.

According to Iranian television Press TV, at least 16 people were killed and over 20 injured as the Il-62M passenger jet with 160 people on board skidded off the runway during landing in northeast Iran's Mashhad.

The Russian ministry, however, said 17 were killed, among them three Russians, and 30 were injured.

The plane's tires caught fire on landing and it skidded into a wall. The cockpit and the front part of the fuselage were completely destroyed.

Earlier Kazakhstan's Foreign Ministry said all five crew, Kazakh nationals, died in the crash.

Last week, another plane, a Tu-154 of Iran's Caspian Airlines, crashed in northern Iran en route from Tehran to Yerevan, killing all 153 passengers and 15 crew onboard.
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Is this coincidence or…
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No coincidence. Russian made planes are shit.
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:z3: Oh well, these things will happen.
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Things seem to be getting hectic, the dark force operatives seem to be taking full advantage of the global chaos. The September time line being bandied about as another quantum shift in the financial system looks ever more likely.

There is no doubt that the psychopaths are itching for another calamity. With the world as it is at the moment, and the state of Amerika, something's gunna blow!
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:z3: Oh well, these things will happen.
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yes freeflow a big ? their.
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How do you know they were nuclear scientists?
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How do you know they were nuclear scientists?
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How do you know they were nuclear scientists?
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Yes, I am curious about this too? If there were 9 nuclear scientists killed, then we can safely assume it was sabotage. (Murder, and we know the reasons)
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How do you know they were nuclear scientists?


They smell sulphure:)
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So the nuclear scientists part is made up? The subject line should be "3 Russians killed in plane crash". Nothing about nuclear scientists at all.
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"Mossad kills 350 Iraqi nuclear scientist"

Dar Babl published, two days ago, a synopsis of a report, which it claimed was sent to President Bush by the State Department (foreign affairs), stating that the Mossad (Israel's Intelligence Institute) has killed 350 Iraqi nuclear scientist in addition to more than 200 university professors from different scientific specialties. It stated that this was done with the help of the American occupation forces. According to the report, these killings were done after the American forces failed in their attempts to recruit these scientists to work in and for the USA. According to Dar Babl, this measure, which targets about 1000 scientists, was taken because Israel believes that the scientists pose a threat to its security if they remain alive.

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SO, its again time to find the full passenger manifest and find out the occupations of each person on that plane as well as their academnic creditials, nationality, politicial persuation, etc..

But the cited article has nothing in it about any of them being Iranian nulcear scientists.


Oh, and the post about the 350+ Iraq nuclear scientics (and the other unvi.profs as well) I do remember reading about back in 2003. that was happening about the same time the Bagdad museum was being pillaged as well.

BTW: what ever did happen at the Battle of the Bagdad Airport? Guess we will never know.
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So which word in that article mentions they were nuclear scientists huh ?
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So which word in that article mentions they were nuclear scientists huh ?
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:z3: Oh well, these things will happen.
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Screw you 9teen47.
Who do you think you're kidding?
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3 Russians 9 Iranian Nuclear Scientists killed, in Iran air crash ...coincidence?
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Where do you get 9 nuclear scientists from?...I don't even see that in Wayne Madsons crapola....you do know he just makes stuff up...right?...but I don't even see it in there.
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"The Battle of the Bagdad Airport"? Please tell me, anyone know what happened?

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"Mossad kills 350 Iraqi nuclear scientist"

Dar Babl published, two days ago, a synopsis of a report, which it claimed was sent to President Bush by the State Department (foreign affairs), stating that the Mossad (Israel's Intelligence Institute) has killed 350 Iraqi nuclear scientist in addition to more than 200 university professors from different scientific specialties. It stated that this was done with the help of the American occupation forces. According to the report, these killings were done after the American forces failed in their attempts to recruit these scientists to work in and for the USA. According to Dar Babl, this measure, which targets about 1000 scientists, was taken because Israel believes that the scientists pose a threat to its security if they remain alive.

[link to urshalim.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: ~~**Nightfall**~~

Yes it's always the MOSSAD or the US isn't it....don't you think that might be a tad convieniant?...

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Current Issue | Past Issues | About the Report

Report on Science and Human Rights

Fall/Winter 2005 Vol XXV, No. 2

Emerging Issue: Iraqi scientists under attack

Sarah Olmstead
Project Coordinator, Science and Human Rights Program

"Assassins are targeting Iraqi university professors in a coordinated, liquidation process to force well-known scholars to leave the country and thus hinder the country’s reconstruction."
- Issam al-Rawi, geologist at Baghdad University and head of the Association of University Lecturers.

"I received a threatening letter saying, 'Do not nominate yourself to the dean's post, or it will cost you your life.'"
- Iyad al-Ani, assistant dean of Al-Nahrain University in Baghdad

"We feel there';s a campaign to kill every scientist in Iraq."
- Nahi Yousif Yaseen, director general of the Iraqi Center for Cancer and Medical Genetics Research in Baghdad

Since the March 2003 invasion of Iraq by U.S. forces and the subsequent violence waged by insurgent groups, it is estimated that at least 100,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed (as of October 2004, according to a study in British medical journal The Lancet), mostly by aerial bombardment. Many of those killed include scientists, medical professionals, and other academics who have been sought out due to their status or position as scientists for intimidation and assassination.

Since the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq, academics working at universities and hospitals have been specifically singled out for attack. Dr. Issam al-Rawi, geography professor, member of the Association of Muslim Scholars and chair of the Iraqi Association of University Lecturers, has reported that over 250 academics and professors have been assassinated, and many others have disappeared. The list of those killed includes Arabs, Kurds, Sunni Muslims, Shiite Muslims, Christians: scientists and academics from all backgrounds. In response to these killings and general unrest, it is estimated that an additional 1,000 scientists have fled the country.

Estimates for these numbers are coming from individual reports by colleagues of the dead/disappeared. A partial list of assassinated academics has been collected and posted at the Web site of the BRussels Tribunal by a Baghdad University professor, who wishes to remain anonymous for security reasons. To date, there has been no scientific study of patterns of threats or attempt to collect data on the deaths in a methodical way.

It is unclear who is doing the killing. Some scientists believe that the majority of the killing is being carried out by the Badr Brigade, the military wing of an Iraqi Shia rebel group that has been in exile in Iran. It is affiliated with a group known as the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq which worked first to overthrow Saddam Hussein, and is now focused on pushing for the full withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq.

Level of Violence

Some professors have received letters claiming to be from students, threatening death should the student not receive a certain grade. Others claim the professor favors a particular ethnic group - Sunni or Shia. Still other academics have received anonymous messages accusing them of working with U.S. government forces and demanding they leave the country. Mohammed Abdulazis, an English literature student and son of Saadoun Abdulazis, an assistant dean of Al-Nahrain's science faculty, was kidnapped while Saadoun was at a conference in England. He was released after his parents paid a ransom, but was given a message to relay to his father: "You must leave Iraq. You don't belong here. This country belongs to us."

In general, morale is low in the Iraqi scientific community. Although there has been some rebuilding, many labs have not yet recovered from the looting that went on after the fall of Saddam. Many scientists are fleeing not just because of the danger, but because they have no equipment or resources, and thus nothing to do. They see more opportunities in other countries. For example, Syria, last year, opened a new science and technology university last year and the teaching staff is now made up of almost 70% Iraqi exiles.

The dismal state of laboratory science compounded with the danger faced by scientists and academics in the country have additionally worried funders. At a September 2005 meeting on science in Iraq, held in Jordan, conference co-chair Arian Pregenzer, a senior scientist at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico said "I sometimes question the ethics of what we're doing." Any grants for work in Iraq "are keeping scientists in a war zone," she says. "It's a terrible dilemma."

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You are known to bad mouth me at any occasion ...

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No Jews were killed, so it's of no importance.
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3 Russians 9 Iranian Nuclear Scientists killed, in Iran air crash
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I don't see any references to this in the linked articles?
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TEHRAN, Iran — Thirteen of the 16 people killed in a plane crash in northeastern Iran were members of the crew, most of them from Kazakhstan, state television reported Saturday
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I don't see any references to this in the linked articles?
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Yeah I know, it's the personal conclusion of the guys from [link to iraqwar.mirror-world.ru] according to Wayne Madsen article linked on the bottom of the OP.

That's why the title has two question marks ...

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TEHRAN, Iran — Thirteen of the 16 people killed in a plane crash in northeastern Iran were members of the crew, most of them from Kazakhstan, state television reported Saturday
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TEHRAN, Iran — Thirteen of the 16 people killed in a plane crash in northeastern Iran were members of the crew, most of them from Kazakhstan, state television reported Saturday

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13 crew members, isn't that number a bit high for a plane like the one that crashed?
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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Based upon what was said on another posting on this site, that said Hillary Clinton has told the Iranian government that we will not tolerate a nuclear armed Iran; and that the Israelis are sending a couple of warships to Iran; it sounds to me like we are planning an attack on Iran's nuclear sites. The Secretary of Defense is in Syria right now trying to talk them out of being allies of Iran. It wouldn't surprise me if the pentagon sent a predator drone armed with a missile from Iraq and shot that aircraft down. If you look at pictures of the aircraft wreckage it looks like its been cut in half.
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The tactics of the corrupt elite to do off with their perceived enemies :

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assisted suicide by two gunshot wounds in back of the head.
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I don't see any references to this in the linked articles?

Yeah I know, it's the personal conclusion of the guys from [link to iraqwar.mirror-world.ru] according to Wayne Madsen article linked on the bottom of the OP.

That's why the title has two question marks ...
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Which is just another example of disinfo from the agenda-driven Dil, perfect pravda forum style.
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By the way, you a moderator again, Dil?
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Which is just another example of disinfo from the agenda-driven Dil, perfect pravda forum style.
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crazy

Yeah sure ...

Btw log in you coward so we can see who's doing the poopaganda there!

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I think FF should be commended for the hard work he/she does. He/she brings a lot of good information to GLP.

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