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THE ROSWELL CRIME: THERE WERE NO ALIENS: THEY USED HANDICAPPED***HUMANS*** IN MEDICAL EXPERIMENTS!!!!

 
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THE ROSWELL CRIME: THERE WERE NO ALIENS: THEY USED HANDICAPPED***HUMANS*** IN MEDICAL EXPERIMENTS!!!!
The Truth about Roswell is released in this book:
Available from Amazon

Body Snatchers in the Desert: The Horrible Truth at the Heart of the Roswell Story (Paperback)


IT WAS A CONSPIRACY TO HIDE A SECRET EXPERIMENT

Now, through never-before-revealed testimony from military whistleblowers, eyewitness intelligence reports, and an astonishing body of corroborative evidence, Nick Redfern lays out a shockingly plausible new theory on the Roswell incident: that the crash-site discovery of prototype military aircraft would expose a damning secret -- a highly confidential, U.S. government-sanctioned program to conduct medical experiments on deformed, handicapped, disfigured, and diseased Japanese POWs, exploited as "expendable" victims by their captors


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[link to www.crystalinks.com]

UFO researcher Nick Redfern published a book called Body Snatchers in the Desert: The Horrible Truth at the Heart of the Roswell Story.

Redfern's thesis is that the Roswell crash has nothing to do with aliens or Mogul balloons, but was instead the crash of an experimental spy craft hybrid involving advanced Japanese Fugo balloon technology lifting a German-based Horten flying wing glider and with a captured Japanese flight crew inside the glider.

The alleged experiment went awry when the glider prematurely decoupled and crashed at one site, while the lifting balloons drifted off and allegedly created the debris field at the Mack Brazel ranch site. Almost the identical theory was first presented in an article in Popular Mechanics magazine in July 1997, the 50th anniversary of the Roswell crash.

The "horrible truth" that was subsequently covered up to this day was allegedly the illegal detention and use of Japanese prisoners of war in this and other experiments, including biological weapons research, high altitude decompression tests, and radiation exposure.

Genetically deformed surviving victims of criminal medical experimentation by the notorious Japanese Unit 731 were also allegedly used.
Further, captured Japanese war criminal scientists were allegedly brought over and participated in these experiments, similar to the program of using captured German scientists brought to the U.S. with Operation Paperclip.

Allegedly, the primary purpose of these criminal experiments was to obtain needed physiological data for the development of a Nuclear aircraft, plus other delivery systems for nuclear, biological, and chemical weaponry. Redfern also contends that the U.S. government is quite content with the public believing in aliens because it is less shocking and damaging than what really happened.

Allegedly other purported New Mexico flying saucer crashes were just cover stories for some of the experiments. Redfern wrote that when he contacted the U.S. Air Force, they had no comment on his theory and said they were sticking to their official Mogul balloon and crash dummy reports for explaining the Roswell incident.

Extracts from the book can be found on SCRIBD here:

[link to www.scribd.com]

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Summary:
As far as UFO myth and legend stories go, one of the most intriguing ones comes to us from the daughter of a minister. Reverend Turner Hamilton Holt's daughter (Lucile Andrew) sent a letter to the UFO Reporter in 2002 stating that:

"Today I want to share some knowledge that has been, by request, kept secret in our family since sometime in World War II. This concerns something my father was shown by his cousin Cordell Hull, the Secretary of State under Franklin Roosevelt."

Four Unknown Creatures:

Holt's daughter also states that when her father was visiting Washington D.C. he was in the company of Hull. Hull then shocked the minister when he asked him to accompany him to a secret room. This room was under the basement of the U.S. Capitol. Holt was stunned to see four large glass jars, each with an alien creature preserved within. Also, there was what was apparently a flying saucer in the room not far from the beings. Compare this account with Philip Corso & Dead Alien Bodies

A Public Panic:

Lucile and her two sisters were all made aware of this unbelievable claim. They were instructed to wait long until after Hull and Holt were dead to release the information to anyone. The sisters feel that the alien bodies and saucer are still being kept somewhere in a secret, secured government location. They were told that Hull kept the knowledge to himself to stop a public panic, which would certainly have ensued after the information became common knowledge.

Served Under Franklin D. Roosevelt :

At the alleged time of the event, the United States had not yet entered into the golden age of the saucers, and the story, if released when it happened, would seem even more bizarre than ever. Hull, being a well-known statesman would have no reason to hoax such an event. Hull was a U.S. Senator from 1931-1937, and became Secretary of State under President Franklin D. Roosevelt in March 1933.

Daughters Heard Story of Creatures:

Hull and Reverend Hull were both from Picket County, and more than just cousins, they were close friends. Holt, a Doctor in Theology, ministered at the Shenandoah Christian Church in Greenwich, Ohio. He was an author and community spokesman. He and his wife Vina May Clark had three daughters. There is no information as to how much Holt's wife had, if any, of the event.

Aliens Described as Creatures:

Lucille had been told the story by her father when she was but a teenager, and she did not pay a lot of attention to it at the time. Luckily, her older sister was told the same story, and the sisters all recall the story independently of the others. One thing that their father told them really stuck: the entities in the glass jars were described as "creatures, " which would seem to rule out any misidentification of a human being.

Unknown Vehicle Near Aliens:

The sisters also recalled that their father remembers the visit to the secret room as occurring in the very late 1930s, more than likely 1939. Although not specifically told that the unknown flying object was part of one display, he naturally assumed that the four creatures arrived in or crashed in the nearby machine. The machine was described as being in pieces, and of a silver-metallic color. It was like nothing he had ever seen before.

Sub-Basement of Capitol Building:

The reputation of a witness to an event is most important, and in this case, we have a well respected minister, who was a community leader, and bringing no notoriety to himself, would have absolutely no reason to perpetuate a lie. Since none of the immediate Hull family is involved in the account, the validity of the story rests on the Holt family, at least until new information is released.

Story Unconfirmed:

The Curator of the U.S. Capitol building denies any knowledge of this sub-basement location at this time. However, she does recall that during the time period of the alleged visit, there was a sub-basement divided into storage rooms. To delay the release of this account is further verified by the fact that after Hull retired from public service, he wrote his memoirs, yet no mention of this story is found. The Hull-Holt story, though enticing, will exist within the realm of folklore.

Changes at Capitol Building:

The Curator states that many changes have taken place at the Capitol building through the years, and it is very possible that top-secret items could have been kept below the building, with access only given to certain individuals.

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The Author`s Website:

[link to www.nickredfern.com]
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MORE:

Another new final explanation for the Roswell incident


[link to www.ufologie.net]
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If you don`t want to buy the book:

A detailed radio interview with the author Nick Redfern, explaining what is in his book:

[link to www.jerrypippin.com]

Nick Redfern has a new book out that is shaking up Roswell. He says his research shows there was a cover-up by the US Government, but not because of ETs. Listen to Jerry and Nick discuss this alternative idea about what really happened in Roswell in July, 1947. Does Nick believe in ETs? He says "yes," but not that dead ET bodies were recovered near Roswell. Is he right or wrong. Stanton Friedman has recently stated that Nick is a great researcher, but in this case he has been led down the wrong garden path. Listen and decide for yourself.
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total disinfo
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Definitely disinfo.
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Definitely disinfo.
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No it is not...those who have eyes to see, can see/feel he is right..
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bumpfor the truth.
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bumpfor the truth.
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Indeed...I read the book and I cried..it is true.

Somebody should pin this thread..not because of me, but because of the Truth
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They keep trying out new stories to explain roswell hoping one of them will stick, but they're just stalling for time. Even if roswell is a myth ETs are visiting earth.
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But what if there was a much
darker secret surrounding the
famous Roswell UFO crash -
one that had nothing to do
with aliens?



Now, in his new book, Body
Snatchers in the Desert: The
Horrible Truth at the Heart of
the Roswell Story, and through
never-before-revealed
testimony from military
whistle- blowers, eyewitness
intelligence reports, and an
astonishing body of
corroborative evidence, Nick
Redfern lays out a
controversial new theory on
the Roswell mystery: that the
crash-site discovery of
prototype military aircraft
would expose a damning
secret - a highly confidential,
US government-sanctioned
program to conduct post-World
War Two medical experiments
on deformed, disfigured and
diseased Japanese people and
prisoners of war, exploited as
expendable by their captors.
An important account that
forces us to take a closer look
at both the Roswell story and
post-war American history,
Body Snatchers in the Desert
casts a startling new light on
the most infamous conspiracy
of them all.
Shocking whistle-blower
testimony from Body
Snatchers in the Desert:
'Those bodies - the Roswell
bodies - they weren't aliens.
The government could care
less about stories about alien
bodies found at Roswell,
except to hide the truth. Those
bodies were Japanese people.
I should have spoken about
this year’s ago. I should have
said something.'
'The Japanese and the Nazis
had done unspeakable things
to these people. Well, it was
probably inevitable that
someone is going to realize
that there is a huge research
value to looking at the way in
which people and bodies have
been used... in high-altitude
experimentation,
pressurization tests, injecting
of plagues and viruses,
chemicals, and - later, here -
exposure to radiation.'
'Word came down that this
was to be a highly-classified
project: 'If it helps us get an
edge on the Russians, do what
you have to do with these
people, but you keep it
classified and you commit
nothing to paper.' They knew,
we all knew, that this was
going to be damned and dirty.
Everyone had their own pet
projects with these people...
and the desert was big enough
for everyone to have their
slice.'"

[link to 74.125.77.132]
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Even if roswell is a myth ETs are visiting earth.
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Roswell isn`t a myth...
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bump

because this thread deserves more attention...
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Thanks OP. I will do more research on this myself. But frankly, ochams razor... pow experiment is more possible.
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Definitely disinfo.


No it is not...those who have eyes to see, can see/feel he is right..
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is like to hidden the Crimes of The Cabal of Bush and Cheney...

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From page 4 of the book:


An Eywitness (Who was assigned to the Oak Ridge labaratory) tells her story;

On three occasions from may to august 1947, horrible looking bodies were brought to Clinton (Oak Ridge National Labaratory) in trucks.
All of the bodies were "oriental" and around 5 feet in height. Some looked like normal japanese people, but injured as if from an accident, such as oversized heads and malformed faces and hands.
Some of the bodies were relatively intact, others displayed the types of devastating injuries that one would expect to find following an aircraft crash.
I knew of 15 and saw three, but those were later sent to los Alamos, were other studies were made of them....
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Nasa-cover story+++Balloon.Weather.
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Let's see -- test vehicles, weather balloons, crash dummies, nothing. What else? Oh, now it's poor disabled children. ANYTHING to distract the attention. Gotta use something horrendous to divert attention. Did I say that twice? Did you get it?

Now I would not be the least surprised to discover that people were used in such a way - somewhere - sometime. Before or after, or concurrent with the Roswell incident, even.

Whatever. The Roswell incident, which included a larger area and more sites than just Roswell, was about little grey guys. -- And you think THAT is too improbable!

How would I know? Must I prove it? Never mind, just think of me as another weather balloon.

I am sure Nick Redfern has his heart in the right place. There is no guarantee he couldn't fall for a psy-op as easily as the next guy. After all, we gladly fall for one or another every day. Some are very elaborate.

Jeez, several different excuses and versions get thrown at you; and what do you do? You nod in bobble-headed agreement at each successive and wilder tale. "Yeah, that's it! Yeah, No - that one is it! Yeah, Yeah! What, disabled children?! Oh yeah, that's so horrible that has to be IT!"

Beyond hope.
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Sorry: I could not reply to my thread untill now, because I was banned, like many others...for no reason....
Thanks mods to unban me...

From page 9: from the book I mentioned:

An eyewitness tells here story;


These experiments involved balloons reaching very high altitudes, with an anesthetized crew of these handicapped people, kept in small compartment, kind of rounded gondola.....

On board of each flight was a pilot who had undergone intense high altitude training and who was protected by a pressure suit....
It was his job, when the ballon reached a certain altitude, to release the capsule from the balloon, and it would fall back to earth, with it`s own parachutes slowing it down.....

But the other people, the poor people, were dressed casually in normal fight suits....

But this was what the experiment wanted. They wanted to know how we might be affrected by exposure to cosmic rays and high altitudes...


Fom page 10

The capsule with the bodies crashed outside white Sands, after its parachutes failed to open...this was I believe early June 1947.
The pilot was killed and two of the other bodies had lost limbs and were very damaged...
These were all japanese, about 5 feet tall and two had slightly large heads and there is no doubt, they were deformed and handicapped from birth....
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no, they were the fallen angels like Tommy777 is.
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Who cares ?
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Who cares ?
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My friend: I am not posting this for you..but for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear..
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im going to have to say nay on this. the army has no qualms with testing LSD or the effects of radiation on their privates. Why woul they pick handicapped people for this one?

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im going to have to say nay on this. the army has no qualms with testing LSD or the effects of radiation on their privates. Why woul they pick handicapped people for this one?
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Because they were easy to get...
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NOT NEW OR REVEALING, THIS IDEA HAS BEEN AROUND FOREVER, OH YES MAKE THE "REAL " REASON SO AWFUL SO DAMNING A SECRET, THAT IT REQUIRED SOMETHING SO UTTERLY FANTASTIC TO STEER PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE REAL TRUTH FOREVER, , HA ITS ALMOST AS BAD AS CANABALISM, THIS IS THE WAY TO TAKE THE HEAT OFF OF BOTH SECRETS, BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, THEY ARE BOTH TRUE. ITS A BRILLIANT DISINFO TECHNIQUE, WHILE YOUR ALL WONDERING WHICH OF THESE FANTASTIC STORIES ARE TRUE, THEY CANCEL EACH OTHER OUT FOR CULPABILITY, YOUR MIND JUST SHELVES IT AS WILD CONSPIRACIES, WHEN ALL ALONG THEY ARE BOTH TRUE.ALIENS DID LAND.... CRASH.... AND EXPERIMENTS WERE DONE TESTING RADIATION SICKNESS, THEY WERE JUST NEVER CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER, ONLY BY LOCATION.

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