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DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 743147
8/5/2009 4:25 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

Anonymous Coward 743090 - don't take ol' "Hard Truth" too seriously - he's one of my favorite shit talkers here..

Hi Howard! How are ya?


I humbled him a couple of time in the past as well. He obeys authoritative orders!


Another dreamer...lol, That'll be the day!!

Religion can never bring the truth down, nor does it have any divine authority!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


I shouldn't say this but most of the time your specious offerings are like those of an unwitting bufoon.

I have a hard time preventing myself from deriving cruel mirth from you and your enterprise.
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 741191
8/5/2009 4:31 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

Anonymous Coward 743090 - don't take ol' "Hard Truth" too seriously - he's one of my favorite shit talkers here..

Hi Howard! How are ya?


I humbled him a couple of time in the past as well. He obeys authoritative orders!


Another dreamer...lol, That'll be the day!!

Religion can never bring the truth down, nor does it have any divine authority!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


I shouldn't say this but most of the time your specious offerings are like those of an unwitting bufoon.

I have a hard time preventing myself from deriving cruel mirth from you and your enterprise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 743147


LOL...

The cruel enterprise is that of divide and conquer constructs, like the false religion you so fervently defend!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 743147
8/5/2009 4:39 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

Anonymous Coward 743090 - don't take ol' "Hard Truth" too seriously - he's one of my favorite shit talkers here..

Hi Howard! How are ya?


I humbled him a couple of time in the past as well. He obeys authoritative orders!


Another dreamer...lol, That'll be the day!!

Religion can never bring the truth down, nor does it have any divine authority!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


I shouldn't say this but most of the time your specious offerings are like those of an unwitting bufoon.

I have a hard time preventing myself from deriving cruel mirth from you and your enterprise.


LOL...

The cruel enterprise is that of divide and conquer constructs, like the false religion you so fervently defend!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


You fail to appreciate the existence of people who happen to have been graced with some knowledge of things which go beyond sophist excursus to confirm so many of those wise old observations recorded in divinely inspired scripture.

I KNOW there was a flood. I KNOW Satan exists and I KNOW who his children are.
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 741191
8/5/2009 4:47 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

Anonymous Coward 743090 - don't take ol' "Hard Truth" too seriously - he's one of my favorite shit talkers here..

Hi Howard! How are ya?


I humbled him a couple of time in the past as well. He obeys authoritative orders!


Another dreamer...lol, That'll be the day!!

Religion can never bring the truth down, nor does it have any divine authority!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


I shouldn't say this but most of the time your specious offerings are like those of an unwitting bufoon.

I have a hard time preventing myself from deriving cruel mirth from you and your enterprise.


LOL...

The cruel enterprise is that of divide and conquer constructs, like the false religion you so fervently defend!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


You fail to appreciate the existence of people who happen to have been graced with some knowledge of things which go beyond sophist excursus to confirm so many of those wise old observations recorded in divinely inspired scripture.

I KNOW there was a flood. I KNOW Satan exists and I KNOW who his children are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 743147



And I KNOW your shoveling shit from the stalls of ignorance, packaging it, trying to pass it off as grade A enlightenment!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 743147
8/5/2009 4:57 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

Anonymous Coward 743090 - don't take ol' "Hard Truth" too seriously - he's one of my favorite shit talkers here..

Hi Howard! How are ya?


I humbled him a couple of time in the past as well. He obeys authoritative orders!


Another dreamer...lol, That'll be the day!!

Religion can never bring the truth down, nor does it have any divine authority!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


I shouldn't say this but most of the time your specious offerings are like those of an unwitting bufoon.

I have a hard time preventing myself from deriving cruel mirth from you and your enterprise.


LOL...

The cruel enterprise is that of divide and conquer constructs, like the false religion you so fervently defend!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


You fail to appreciate the existence of people who happen to have been graced with some knowledge of things which go beyond sophist excursus to confirm so many of those wise old observations recorded in divinely inspired scripture.

I KNOW there was a flood. I KNOW Satan exists and I KNOW who his children are.



And I KNOW your shoveling shit from the stalls of ignorance, packaging it, trying to pass it off as grade A enlightenment!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Actually the truth is pretty mudane and observable to anyone with the wherewithal to see it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 742967
8/5/2009 4:58 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

*sigh*

Howard, you forgot to add 'grasshopper' at some point.. tounge
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 742967
8/5/2009 5:00 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

AC 743147 I've takin' a likin' to ya.. you up really late or in Euroland?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 742967
8/5/2009 5:03 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

You know Hardy, YHWH never expected or demanded worship.

That would make him divine, wouldn't it?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 743147
8/5/2009 5:04 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

AC 743147 I've takin' a likin' to ya.. you up really late or in Euroland?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 742967


I'm everywhere and nowhere.
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 741191
8/5/2009 5:16 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

You know Hardy, YHWH never expected or demanded worship.

That would make him divine, wouldn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 742967


You see grasshopper, the original meaning of the word 'worship' was "To work or labor for."

As we see in your scriptures this was indeed the case, "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

And all the other ancient text's verify it as well!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged. I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)

Your lord did indeed demand worship, in both the original meaning of the word, as well as the latter misunderstanding of the word!!

Ezekiel breaks open the secret that Satan was only a man, and Enlil/YHVH was his half brother, so then he too was just a man, not a god, in fact all the ancients texts refer to the Elohim (Plural) as lords or masters, never gods!!

Enjoy your worship!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 743147
8/5/2009 5:23 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

You know Hardy, YHWH never expected or demanded worship.

That would make him divine, wouldn't it?


You see grasshopper, the original meaning of the word 'worship' was "To work or labor for."

As we see in your scriptures this was indeed the case, "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

And all the other ancient text's verify it as well!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged. I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)

Your lord did indeed demand worship, in both the original meaning of the word, as well as the latter misunderstanding of the word!!

Ezekiel breaks open the secret that Satan was only a man, and Enlil/YHVH was his half brother, so then he too was just a man, not a god, in fact all the ancients texts refer to the Elohim (Plural) as lords or masters, never gods!!

Enjoy your worship!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Ezekiel never mentions Satan. He speaks of the Watchers, the Cherubim guarding Eden.

Need I go on?

Your posts are so easy to dismantle.
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 741191
8/5/2009 5:38 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

You know Hardy, YHWH never expected or demanded worship.

That would make him divine, wouldn't it?


You see grasshopper, the original meaning of the word 'worship' was "To work or labor for."

As we see in your scriptures this was indeed the case, "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

And all the other ancient text's verify it as well!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged. I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)

Your lord did indeed demand worship, in both the original meaning of the word, as well as the latter misunderstanding of the word!!

Ezekiel breaks open the secret that Satan was only a man, and Enlil/YHVH was his half brother, so then he too was just a man, not a god, in fact all the ancients texts refer to the Elohim (Plural) as lords or masters, never gods!!

Enjoy your worship!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Ezekiel never mentions Satan. He speaks of the Watchers, the Cherubim guarding Eden.

Need I go on?

Your posts are so easy to dismantle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 743147



Prince of Tyre, the son of Satan!!

Ezekiel 28: 2- 8
2: Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre: Thus says the Lord GOD: Because you are haughty of heart, you say, "A god am I! I occupy a godly throne in the heart of the sea!"--(Atlantis) And yet you are a man, and not a god, however you may think yourself like a god.
3: Oh yes, you are wiser than Daniel, there is no secret that is beyond you.
4: By your wisdom and your intelligence you have made riches for yourself; You have put gold and silver into your treasuries.
5: By your great wisdom applied to your trading you have heaped up your riches; your heart has grown haughty from your riches--
6: therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have thought yourself to have the mind of a god,
7: Therefore I will bring against you foreigners, the most barbarous of nations. They shall draw their swords against your beauteous wisdom, they shall run them through your splendid apparel.
8: They shall thrust you down to the pit, there to die a bloodied corpse, in the heart of the sea.
[Ezek 28:9] Will you then say, "I am a god!" when you face your murderers? No, you are a man, not a god, handed over to those who will slay you.

King of Tyre/Quin-o-taur/Poseidon/Satan

[Ezek 28:12] Son of man, utter a lament over the king of Tyre, saying to him: Thus says the Lord GOD: You were stamped with the seal of perfection, of complete wisdom and perfect beauty.
[Ezek 28:13] In Eden, the garden of God, you were, and every precious stone was your covering (carnelian, topaz, and beryl, chrysolite, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, garnet, and emerald); Of gold your pendants and jewels were made, on the day you were created.
[Ezek 28:14] With the Cherub I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God, walking among the fiery stones. (Different Planets)
[Ezek 28:15] Blameless you were in your conduct from the day you were created, Until evil was found in you,
[Ezek 28:16] the result of your far-flung trade; violence was your business, and you sinned. Then I banned you from the mountain of God; the Cherub (spacecraft)drove you from among the fiery stones.
[Ezek 28:17] You became haughty of heart because of your beauty; for the sake of splendor you debased your wisdom. I cast you to the earth, so great was your guilt; I made you a spectacle in the sight of kings. (Liguori Faithware Bible)

You were saying?

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Last Edited by HardTruth on 8/5/2009 at 5:39 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 743147
8/5/2009 5:42 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

You know Hardy, YHWH never expected or demanded worship.

That would make him divine, wouldn't it?


You see grasshopper, the original meaning of the word 'worship' was "To work or labor for."

As we see in your scriptures this was indeed the case, "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

And all the other ancient text's verify it as well!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged. I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)

Your lord did indeed demand worship, in both the original meaning of the word, as well as the latter misunderstanding of the word!!

Ezekiel breaks open the secret that Satan was only a man, and Enlil/YHVH was his half brother, so then he too was just a man, not a god, in fact all the ancients texts refer to the Elohim (Plural) as lords or masters, never gods!!

Enjoy your worship!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Ezekiel never mentions Satan. He speaks of the Watchers, the Cherubim guarding Eden.

Need I go on?

Your posts are so easy to dismantle.



Prince of Tyre, the son of Satan!!

Ezekiel 28: 2- 8
2: Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre: Thus says the Lord GOD: Because you are haughty of heart, you say, "A god am I! I occupy a godly throne in the heart of the sea!"--(Atlantis) And yet you are a man, and not a god, however you may think yourself like a god.3: Oh yes, you are wiser than Daniel, there is no secret that is beyond you.
4: By your wisdom and your intelligence you have made riches for yourself; You have put gold and silver into your treasuries.
5: By your great wisdom applied to your trading you have heaped up your riches; your heart has grown haughty from your riches--
6: therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have thought yourself to have the mind of a god,
7: Therefore I will bring against you foreigners, the most barbarous of nations. They shall draw their swords against your beauteous wisdom, they shall run them through your splendid apparel.
8: They shall thrust you down to the pit, there to die a bloodied corpse, in the heart of the sea.
[Ezek 28:9] Will you then say, "I am a god!" when you face your murderers? No, you are a man, not a god, handed over to those who will slay you.

King of Tyre/Quin-o-taur/Poseidon/Satan

[Ezek 28:12] Son of man, utter a lament over the king of Tyre, saying to him: Thus says the Lord GOD: You were stamped with the seal of perfection, of complete wisdom and perfect beauty.
[Ezek 28:13] In Eden, the garden of God, you were, and every precious stone was your covering (carnelian, topaz, and beryl, chrysolite, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, garnet, and emerald); Of gold your pendants and jewels were made, on the day you were created.
[Ezek 28:14] With the Cherub I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God, walking among the fiery stones. (Different Planets)
[Ezek 28:15] Blameless you were in your conduct from the day you were created, Until evil was found in you,
[Ezek 28:16] the result of your far-flung trade; violence was your business, and you sinned. Then I banned you from the mountain of God; the Cherub (spacecraft)drove you from among the fiery stones.
[Ezek 28:17] You became haughty of heart because of your beauty; for the sake of splendor you debased your wisdom. I cast you to the earth, so great was your guilt; I made you a spectacle in the sight of kings. (Liguori Faithware Bible)

You were saying?

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Where is the word Satan mentioned?

This describes the Watchers leaving their place of habitation, transgressing and being punished for it.

Nowhere in these tracts is anything indicating the nefarious personality known as Satan.

You merely confuse a description of Heylel in Isaiah with this description of the Watchers, assuming both to be descriptions of Satan, neglecting that in Jude Satan is seen in Heaven arguing with Michael over Moses.

You need to unlearn what you have learned and pay attention the next time you read scripture.
9teen.47™ Subscriber
Time is short.
User ID: 743182
8/5/2009 5:48 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

hummbird

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.

STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 741191
8/5/2009 5:53 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

You know Hardy, YHWH never expected or demanded worship.

That would make him divine, wouldn't it?


You see grasshopper, the original meaning of the word 'worship' was "To work or labor for."

As we see in your scriptures this was indeed the case, "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

And all the other ancient text's verify it as well!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged. I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)

Your lord did indeed demand worship, in both the original meaning of the word, as well as the latter misunderstanding of the word!!

Ezekiel breaks open the secret that Satan was only a man, and Enlil/YHVH was his half brother, so then he too was just a man, not a god, in fact all the ancients texts refer to the Elohim (Plural) as lords or masters, never gods!!

Enjoy your worship!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Ezekiel never mentions Satan. He speaks of the Watchers, the Cherubim guarding Eden.

Need I go on?

Your posts are so easy to dismantle.



Prince of Tyre, the son of Satan!!

Ezekiel 28: 2- 8
2: Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre: Thus says the Lord GOD: Because you are haughty of heart, you say, "A god am I! I occupy a godly throne in the heart of the sea!"--(Atlantis) And yet you are a man, and not a god, however you may think yourself like a god.3: Oh yes, you are wiser than Daniel, there is no secret that is beyond you.
4: By your wisdom and your intelligence you have made riches for yourself; You have put gold and silver into your treasuries.
5: By your great wisdom applied to your trading you have heaped up your riches; your heart has grown haughty from your riches--
6: therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have thought yourself to have the mind of a god,
7: Therefore I will bring against you foreigners, the most barbarous of nations. They shall draw their swords against your beauteous wisdom, they shall run them through your splendid apparel.
8: They shall thrust you down to the pit, there to die a bloodied corpse, in the heart of the sea.
[Ezek 28:9] Will you then say, "I am a god!" when you face your murderers? No, you are a man, not a god, handed over to those who will slay you.

King of Tyre/Quin-o-taur/Poseidon/Satan

[Ezek 28:12] Son of man, utter a lament over the king of Tyre, saying to him: Thus says the Lord GOD: You were stamped with the seal of perfection, of complete wisdom and perfect beauty.
[Ezek 28:13] In Eden, the garden of God, you were, and every precious stone was your covering (carnelian, topaz, and beryl, chrysolite, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, garnet, and emerald); Of gold your pendants and jewels were made, on the day you were created.
[Ezek 28:14] With the Cherub I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God, walking among the fiery stones. (Different Planets)
[Ezek 28:15] Blameless you were in your conduct from the day you were created, Until evil was found in you,
[Ezek 28:16] the result of your far-flung trade; violence was your business, and you sinned. Then I banned you from the mountain of God; the Cherub (spacecraft)drove you from among the fiery stones.
[Ezek 28:17] You became haughty of heart because of your beauty; for the sake of splendor you debased your wisdom. I cast you to the earth, so great was your guilt; I made you a spectacle in the sight of kings. (Liguori Faithware Bible)

You were saying?

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Where is the word Satan mentioned?

This describes the Watchers leaving their place of habitation, transgressing and being punished for it.

Nowhere in these tracts is anything indicating the nefarious personality known as Satan.

You merely confuse a description of Heylel in Isaiah with this description of the Watchers, assuming both to be descriptions of Satan, neglecting that in Jude Satan is seen in Heaven arguing with Michael over Moses.

You need to unlearn what you have learned and pay attention the next time you read scripture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 743147



You and I both know that this is taught in christianity as a veiled reference to Satan, as far as your particular branch of christian doctrines, and if memory serves that would be the Jehovah's witnesses, which I have discarded those erroneous doctrines eons ago, I truly don't know what they are teaching you these days!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 743147
8/5/2009 5:55 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

You know Hardy, YHWH never expected or demanded worship.

That would make him divine, wouldn't it?


You see grasshopper, the original meaning of the word 'worship' was "To work or labor for."

As we see in your scriptures this was indeed the case, "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

And all the other ancient text's verify it as well!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged. I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)

Your lord did indeed demand worship, in both the original meaning of the word, as well as the latter misunderstanding of the word!!

Ezekiel breaks open the secret that Satan was only a man, and Enlil/YHVH was his half brother, so then he too was just a man, not a god, in fact all the ancients texts refer to the Elohim (Plural) as lords or masters, never gods!!

Enjoy your worship!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Ezekiel never mentions Satan. He speaks of the Watchers, the Cherubim guarding Eden.

Need I go on?

Your posts are so easy to dismantle.



Prince of Tyre, the son of Satan!!

Ezekiel 28: 2- 8
2: Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre: Thus says the Lord GOD: Because you are haughty of heart, you say, "A god am I! I occupy a godly throne in the heart of the sea!"--(Atlantis) And yet you are a man, and not a god, however you may think yourself like a god.3: Oh yes, you are wiser than Daniel, there is no secret that is beyond you.
4: By your wisdom and your intelligence you have made riches for yourself; You have put gold and silver into your treasuries.
5: By your great wisdom applied to your trading you have heaped up your riches; your heart has grown haughty from your riches--
6: therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have thought yourself to have the mind of a god,
7: Therefore I will bring against you foreigners, the most barbarous of nations. They shall draw their swords against your beauteous wisdom, they shall run them through your splendid apparel.
8: They shall thrust you down to the pit, there to die a bloodied corpse, in the heart of the sea.
[Ezek 28:9] Will you then say, "I am a god!" when you face your murderers? No, you are a man, not a god, handed over to those who will slay you.

King of Tyre/Quin-o-taur/Poseidon/Satan

[Ezek 28:12] Son of man, utter a lament over the king of Tyre, saying to him: Thus says the Lord GOD: You were stamped with the seal of perfection, of complete wisdom and perfect beauty.
[Ezek 28:13] In Eden, the garden of God, you were, and every precious stone was your covering (carnelian, topaz, and beryl, chrysolite, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, garnet, and emerald); Of gold your pendants and jewels were made, on the day you were created.
[Ezek 28:14] With the Cherub I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God, walking among the fiery stones. (Different Planets)
[Ezek 28:15] Blameless you were in your conduct from the day you were created, Until evil was found in you,
[Ezek 28:16] the result of your far-flung trade; violence was your business, and you sinned. Then I banned you from the mountain of God; the Cherub (spacecraft)drove you from among the fiery stones.
[Ezek 28:17] You became haughty of heart because of your beauty; for the sake of splendor you debased your wisdom. I cast you to the earth, so great was your guilt; I made you a spectacle in the sight of kings. (Liguori Faithware Bible)

You were saying?

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Where is the word Satan mentioned?

This describes the Watchers leaving their place of habitation, transgressing and being punished for it.

Nowhere in these tracts is anything indicating the nefarious personality known as Satan.

You merely confuse a description of Heylel in Isaiah with this description of the Watchers, assuming both to be descriptions of Satan, neglecting that in Jude Satan is seen in Heaven arguing with Michael over Moses.

You need to unlearn what you have learned and pay attention the next time you read scripture.



You and I both know that this is taught in christianity as a veiled reference to Satan, as far as your particular branch of christian doctrines, and if memory serves that would be the Jehovah's witnesses, which I have discarded those erroneous doctrines eons ago, I truly don't know what they are teaching you these days!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


No organized religion will teach this.

It's the actual truth you see, the truth that Satan arrived here AFTER THE FLOOD and his offspring have been oppressing the chosen people for 4,000 years.
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 741191
8/5/2009 6:02 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

You know Hardy, YHWH never expected or demanded worship.

That would make him divine, wouldn't it?


You see grasshopper, the original meaning of the word 'worship' was "To work or labor for."

As we see in your scriptures this was indeed the case, "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

And all the other ancient text's verify it as well!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged. I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)

Your lord did indeed demand worship, in both the original meaning of the word, as well as the latter misunderstanding of the word!!

Ezekiel breaks open the secret that Satan was only a man, and Enlil/YHVH was his half brother, so then he too was just a man, not a god, in fact all the ancients texts refer to the Elohim (Plural) as lords or masters, never gods!!

Enjoy your worship!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Ezekiel never mentions Satan. He speaks of the Watchers, the Cherubim guarding Eden.

Need I go on?

Your posts are so easy to dismantle.



Prince of Tyre, the son of Satan!!

Ezekiel 28: 2- 8
2: Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre: Thus says the Lord GOD: Because you are haughty of heart, you say, "A god am I! I occupy a godly throne in the heart of the sea!"--(Atlantis) And yet you are a man, and not a god, however you may think yourself like a god.3: Oh yes, you are wiser than Daniel, there is no secret that is beyond you.
4: By your wisdom and your intelligence you have made riches for yourself; You have put gold and silver into your treasuries.
5: By your great wisdom applied to your trading you have heaped up your riches; your heart has grown haughty from your riches--
6: therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have thought yourself to have the mind of a god,
7: Therefore I will bring against you foreigners, the most barbarous of nations. They shall draw their swords against your beauteous wisdom, they shall run them through your splendid apparel.
8: They shall thrust you down to the pit, there to die a bloodied corpse, in the heart of the sea.
[Ezek 28:9] Will you then say, "I am a god!" when you face your murderers? No, you are a man, not a god, handed over to those who will slay you.

King of Tyre/Quin-o-taur/Poseidon/Satan

[Ezek 28:12] Son of man, utter a lament over the king of Tyre, saying to him: Thus says the Lord GOD: You were stamped with the seal of perfection, of complete wisdom and perfect beauty.
[Ezek 28:13] In Eden, the garden of God, you were, and every precious stone was your covering (carnelian, topaz, and beryl, chrysolite, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, garnet, and emerald); Of gold your pendants and jewels were made, on the day you were created.
[Ezek 28:14] With the Cherub I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God, walking among the fiery stones. (Different Planets)
[Ezek 28:15] Blameless you were in your conduct from the day you were created, Until evil was found in you,
[Ezek 28:16] the result of your far-flung trade; violence was your business, and you sinned. Then I banned you from the mountain of God; the Cherub (spacecraft)drove you from among the fiery stones.
[Ezek 28:17] You became haughty of heart because of your beauty; for the sake of splendor you debased your wisdom. I cast you to the earth, so great was your guilt; I made you a spectacle in the sight of kings. (Liguori Faithware Bible)

You were saying?

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Where is the word Satan mentioned?

This describes the Watchers leaving their place of habitation, transgressing and being punished for it.

Nowhere in these tracts is anything indicating the nefarious personality known as Satan.

You merely confuse a description of Heylel in Isaiah with this description of the Watchers, assuming both to be descriptions of Satan, neglecting that in Jude Satan is seen in Heaven arguing with Michael over Moses.

You need to unlearn what you have learned and pay attention the next time you read scripture.



You and I both know that this is taught in christianity as a veiled reference to Satan, as far as your particular branch of christian doctrines, and if memory serves that would be the Jehovah's witnesses, which I have discarded those erroneous doctrines eons ago, I truly don't know what they are teaching you these days!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


No organized religion will teach this.

It's the actual truth you see, the truth that Satan arrived here AFTER THE FLOOD and his offspring have been oppressing the chosen people for 4,000 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 743147



You can believe whatever you desire and call it truth till the end of the ages, but that tripe your spouting isn't it!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 743217
8/5/2009 6:09 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

Halfway through the thread, I like your style OP.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 743147
8/5/2009 6:09 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

You know Hardy, YHWH never expected or demanded worship.

That would make him divine, wouldn't it?


You see grasshopper, the original meaning of the word 'worship' was "To work or labor for."

As we see in your scriptures this was indeed the case, "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

And all the other ancient text's verify it as well!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged. I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)

Your lord did indeed demand worship, in both the original meaning of the word, as well as the latter misunderstanding of the word!!

Ezekiel breaks open the secret that Satan was only a man, and Enlil/YHVH was his half brother, so then he too was just a man, not a god, in fact all the ancients texts refer to the Elohim (Plural) as lords or masters, never gods!!

Enjoy your worship!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Ezekiel never mentions Satan. He speaks of the Watchers, the Cherubim guarding Eden.

Need I go on?

Your posts are so easy to dismantle.



Prince of Tyre, the son of Satan!!

Ezekiel 28: 2- 8
2: Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre: Thus says the Lord GOD: Because you are haughty of heart, you say, "A god am I! I occupy a godly throne in the heart of the sea!"--(Atlantis) And yet you are a man, and not a god, however you may think yourself like a god.3: Oh yes, you are wiser than Daniel, there is no secret that is beyond you.
4: By your wisdom and your intelligence you have made riches for yourself; You have put gold and silver into your treasuries.
5: By your great wisdom applied to your trading you have heaped up your riches; your heart has grown haughty from your riches--
6: therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Because you have thought yourself to have the mind of a god,
7: Therefore I will bring against you foreigners, the most barbarous of nations. They shall draw their swords against your beauteous wisdom, they shall run them through your splendid apparel.
8: They shall thrust you down to the pit, there to die a bloodied corpse, in the heart of the sea.
[Ezek 28:9] Will you then say, "I am a god!" when you face your murderers? No, you are a man, not a god, handed over to those who will slay you.

King of Tyre/Quin-o-taur/Poseidon/Satan

[Ezek 28:12] Son of man, utter a lament over the king of Tyre, saying to him: Thus says the Lord GOD: You were stamped with the seal of perfection, of complete wisdom and perfect beauty.
[Ezek 28:13] In Eden, the garden of God, you were, and every precious stone was your covering (carnelian, topaz, and beryl, chrysolite, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, garnet, and emerald); Of gold your pendants and jewels were made, on the day you were created.
[Ezek 28:14] With the Cherub I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God, walking among the fiery stones. (Different Planets)
[Ezek 28:15] Blameless you were in your conduct from the day you were created, Until evil was found in you,
[Ezek 28:16] the result of your far-flung trade; violence was your business, and you sinned. Then I banned you from the mountain of God; the Cherub (spacecraft)drove you from among the fiery stones.
[Ezek 28:17] You became haughty of heart because of your beauty; for the sake of splendor you debased your wisdom. I cast you to the earth, so great was your guilt; I made you a spectacle in the sight of kings. (Liguori Faithware Bible)

You were saying?

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Where is the word Satan mentioned?

This describes the Watchers leaving their place of habitation, transgressing and being punished for it.

Nowhere in these tracts is anything indicating the nefarious personality known as Satan.

You merely confuse a description of Heylel in Isaiah with this description of the Watchers, assuming both to be descriptions of Satan, neglecting that in Jude Satan is seen in Heaven arguing with Michael over Moses.

You need to unlearn what you have learned and pay attention the next time you read scripture.



You and I both know that this is taught in christianity as a veiled reference to Satan, as far as your particular branch of christian doctrines, and if memory serves that would be the Jehovah's witnesses, which I have discarded those erroneous doctrines eons ago, I truly don't know what they are teaching you these days!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


No organized religion will teach this.

It's the actual truth you see, the truth that Satan arrived here AFTER THE FLOOD and his offspring have been oppressing the chosen people for 4,000 years.



You can believe whatever you desire and call it truth till the end of the ages, but that tripe your spouting isn't it!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


It's all there is.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 743915
8/6/2009 5:08 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

BTW. Please avoid all other Noah threads. They contain many distractions and prevarications.

If you wish to know about the flood you can do two things:

1) Read Genesis. You will be surprised to learn that the story is more coherent than you either learned or remember.

2) Read a good creationist discourse, like the one you can find here:

www.creationscience.com

DISCLAIMER: Creationist literature is THEORETICAL.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 743915
8/6/2009 5:13 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

I've often wondered whether or not the people who poured scorn over Noah's warnings, actually, secretly took him seriously, hence their hostile reactions.

I mean, truly, if someone was talking nonsense and you knew it for certain, would you need to denigrate, undermine or oppose him or what he says?

Why would people simply ignore common sense logical statements, without even attempting to understand what is being said first?

Is it possible that the sophisticated, worldly people, who were so happy in their lives and satisfied in their world, simply opposed the idea that change was coming, because they knew it too?

Would there have been people who dedicated their time to convincing other people to ignore Noah or anyone like him, simply because they wanted everyone to be corrupt (acting against the will of The Creator), hoping that were this so, there'd be no moral authority in the celestial realm?

What do you think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 741433
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 744499
8/7/2009 7:30 PM
Re: DO YOU THINK ANYONE REALIZED NOAH WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD ACTUALLY HAPPENED?Quote

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