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| 9teen.47™ Offer Upgrade  User ID: 741610  United Kingdom08/04/2009 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  PLEASE SEE VIDEO BEFORE VOTING OR VIEWING........................................................... POLL RIGGING by the "DEBUNKERS" Time 09:00 AM 08/05/09 Sorry folks but someone, probably  Snake Airlines who is a known proxy user and disinfo artist has been inflating the Over 30,000 feet option. As a percentage of the total vote it was running fairly steady at about 10% and it has suddenly shot up to 17 votes.To keep the poll fair to everyone I am freezing the over 30,000 feet vote at 12. (Actually I think it should really be 6 or 7, but I am trying to be fair.) You can still vote for Over 30,000 feet and have it counted. Just post a reply in the thread with 30,000 in it and it will be counted as one vote. Sorry for the inconvenience. 9teen.47 .......................................................... In recent weeks the GLP Chemtrail debate has become centered around the question of super saturated icing conditions*. This can only take place in temperatures of 32 degrees F or lower. The temperature drops by about 3.5 degrees F for every 1,000 feet of height. Ignoring the slight effects of humidity. The point being that the "debunkers" now viciously attack regular GLP posters who report low lever Chemtrail spraying in the areas where they live, work and play. With the aim of discouraging them from making further contributions to the debate. To keep any kind of creditability they have to convince people that they cannot trust their own eyesight and common sense judgement. They keep insisting that the spraying is taking place at much higher altitudes than it really is. For example if the ground temperature is 100 degrees F in a stable Summer time high pressure system, then quite obviously at say 10,000 feet to 15,000 feet the temperature is not going to be anywhere near 32 degrees F. And thus possibly suitable for super saturated icing conditions. Which means of course that low level Chemtrail spraying is actually taking place. Anyway take a look at the video and see what you think. Chemtrail Spraying Outrages the Residents of Florence OR * This is actually a fairly rare condition, particularly at these times of year and in these latitudes. . But somehow or other it has morphed into being a quite common condition by the "debunkers." I am just noting that this separate question has yet to be ironed out. Anyway I hope that you have enjoyed this thread. If so could you please give it a  back to page 1 every now and then so that others can catch it. Thanks 9teen.47PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 08/16/2009 07:50 PM Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
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| 9teen.47™ (OP) User ID: 741610 United Kingdom08/04/2009 02:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 738530, Oops, thanks. I was writing Fahrenheit and thinking Celsius. Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 738530 New Zealand08/04/2009 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :grizzy: 738530, Quoting: 9teen.47™Oops, thanks. I was writing Fahrenheit and thinking Celsius. Could we stick to Celsius? This is the unit of temperature used in upper air soundings. For example, on the Uni of Wyoming site. [link to weather.uwyo.edu] |
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| 9teen.47™ (OP) User ID: 741610 United Kingdom08/04/2009 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could we stick to Celsius? This is the unit of temperature used in upper air soundings. For example, on the Uni of Wyoming site. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 738530[link to weather.uwyo.edu] NO. Because this is an American based website and the great majority of the visitors are American. Therefore I think that it is only courteous that we use the measurements that we are used to in our daily lives. IE: Fahrenheit, feet, yards, etc. If we start talking and/or switching to celsius, metres, centimetres etc it will just make for confusion.Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 08/04/2009 03:03 AM Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
| 9teen.47™ (OP) User ID: 741610 United Kingdom08/04/2009 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, are there any military bases or important strategic landmarks in your area? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 741222 Mojave Airfield and Edwards AFB are close by* However Mojave is mainly a storage airfield for aircraft that are in laid up. I know from personal experience that it does not (except perhaps very occasionally) have a large number of take offs and landings. It is not really a passenger airport.Edwards would not have large numbers of aircraft waiting to land. Or if it did then why would it always be early in the morning when the spraying takes place. If it was regular then you would expect it to happen at other times of the day, and spraying to also take place at other times, which does not happen. * I am talking 2003 to 2005. Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 08/04/2009 03:00 AM Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 741637 United States08/04/2009 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The scientists know this and are testing out different compounds to see which will create a shield like cloud cover. Besides, a Christian should be "careful for nothing". You should know that 9t47. |
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| 9teen.47™ (OP) User ID: 741610 United Kingdom08/04/2009 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 741720  One day Bill Gates is going to get whats coming to him, if he dies in his sins. Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
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| 9teen.47™ (OP) User ID: 741610 United Kingdom08/04/2009 03:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Besides, a Christian should be "careful for nothing". You should know that 9t47. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 741637 Perhaps you would care to make your point more clearly 741637? Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 08/04/2009 03:29 AM Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 741222 Australia08/04/2009 03:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think they are actively trying to poison us. I think it's a study to see if they can shield the cities from the extreme solar radiation that is to come. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 741637The scientists know this and are testing out different compounds to see which will create a shield like cloud cover. Yeah, I can see why they would elusive about something like that because it opens up a whole new can of worms which might lead to a huge panic. And by avoiding the issue, they don't have to answer the public or offer any explanation. |
| 9teen.47™ (OP) User ID: 741610 United Kingdom08/04/2009 03:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think they are actively trying to poison us. I think it's a study to see if they can shield the cities from the extreme solar radiation that is to come. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 741222The scientists know this and are testing out different compounds to see which will create a shield like cloud cover. Yeah, I can see why they would elusive about something like that because it opens up a whole new can of worms which might lead to a huge panic. And by avoiding the issue, they don't have to answer the public or offer any explanation. :clamming: That's a load of rubbish. It has been well documented that the Chemtrails contain all manner of poisons that are designed to "slow" kill us, make us ill and weaken our immune systems. All this crap that you are spouting is because Chemtrailing has become to obvious to hide anymore after lying about it since the mid 1990's. No doubt quite a lot of stupid people, who are always looking for a slick sounding reason to dismiss the problem from their minds will go along with it. Stupid sheep who deserve to go into slavery.      Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 741222 Australia08/04/2009 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a load of rubbish. It has been well documented that the Chemtrails contain all manner of poisons that are designed to "slow" kill us, make us ill and weaken our immune systems. All this crap that you are spouting is because Chemtrailing has become to obvious to hide anymore after lying about it since the mid 1990's. No doubt quite a lot of stupid people, who are always looking for a slick sounding reason to dismiss the problem from their minds will go along with it. Stupid sheep who deserve to go into slavery. I'm simply not as emotionally involved as you on the subject. Do you expect discussion on this thread? I'm actually not dismissing the concept out of hand. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 738530 New Zealand08/04/2009 04:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The point being that the "debunkers" now viciously attack regular GLP posters who report low lever Chemtrail spraying in the areas where they live, work and play. With the aim of discouraging them from making further contributions to the debate. Quoting: 9teen.47™Can you give an example where the "debunkers" have viciously attacked a poster who suggests low level chemtrails? The usual response is to ask how the height has been estimated or measured. A good way to get a sense of the height is to drive a few miles and observe the trails. If they end up "way back there", then they are low level. However, they won't - they will be "still up ahead" indicating they are way high... 30,000 feet or more. For example if the ground temperature is 100 degrees F in a stable Summer time high pressure system, then quite obviously at say 10,000 feet to 15,000 feet the temperature is not going to be anywhere near 32 degrees F. And thus possibly suitable for super saturated icing conditions. Quoting: 9teen.47™If the ground temperature is 100 degrees F, the lapse rate is likely to be much steeper than the LR of the standard atmosphere - more like the dry adiabatic lapse rate of 5.5°F per 1000 ft, and up to several thousands of feet due to the fairly intense convection that will be going on. |
| 9teen.47™ (OP) User ID: 741610 United Kingdom08/04/2009 04:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a load of rubbish. It has been well documented that the Chemtrails contain all manner of poisons that are designed to "slow" kill us, make us ill and weaken our immune systems. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 741222All this crap that you are spouting is because Chemtrailing has become to obvious to hide anymore after lying about it since the mid 1990's. No doubt quite a lot of stupid people, who are always looking for a slick sounding reason to dismiss the problem from their minds will go along with it. Stupid sheep who deserve to go into slavery. I'm simply not as emotionally involved as you on the subject. Do you expect discussion on this thread? I'm actually not dismissing the concept out of hand.   741222,GLP is not a gentle place and perhaps unknowingly, you have stepped into the middle of a turf war. Thus far the debate has been largly stuck at the infantile level of "chemtrails or contrails." At any rate chemtrailing has not been done because TPTB are concerned for our health and safety. Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
| Texas Uncensored User ID: 113255 United States08/04/2009 04:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just wanted to say that I really don't know how you have been able to handle the shrills that hit you constantly. Well done ! I'm near the Bush Sr. neighborhood. the entire time he was in office, chemtrails, thick and heavy, almost every day that wasn't raining. Now, hardly a one. Is that strange or what? If this is the vid I'm thinking it is, the way they describe the trails being laid, and the commercial air patterns ( which are very light here), is exactly what was happening above me. And I"ll add the vid for the cause. [link to www.youtube.com] Oops, it was this one. [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by Texas Uncensored on 08/04/2009 04:31 AM **** PEACE **** UFO's @ [link to www.youtube.com] UFO photos & phenomena @ [link to www.picasaweb.google.com] MY GLP VIDEO CHANNEL * [link to video.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.futurequake.bravehost.com] |
| 9teen.47™ (OP) User ID: 741610 United Kingdom08/04/2009 04:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the ground temperature is 100 degrees F, the lapse rate is likely to be much steeper than the LR of the standard atmosphere - more like the dry adiabatic lapse rate of 5.5°F per 1000 ft, and up to several thousands of feet due to the fairly intense convection that will be going on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 738530Ah! The first attempt to baffle us with BS science. The standard values for pressure, temperature and density (ignoring the slight effect of humidity) at altitudes from sea level to 16,000 feet (about 4900 m). The attached chart does not post clearly to GLP. So I have cleared it to just height (in feet) and temperature F. Here is a link to Engineering Toolbox [link to www.engineeringtoolbox.com] Please note in particular that this chart starts with a sea level temperature of 59 degrees F. On a hot summers day that can easily be 100 degrees F or more. So you can easily add up to 40 degrees to the listed temperatures. sea level 59.0 2,000 51.9 4,000 44.7 6,000 37.6 8,000 30.5 10,000 23.3 12,000 16.2 14,000 9.1 16,000 1.9 •1 ft (foot) = 0.3048 m •1 in mercury (Hg) = 3,376.8 N/m2 (Pa)= 0.49 lb/in2 (psi) = 12.8 in water •T(oC) = 5/9[T(oF) - 32] Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 08/04/2009 05:17 AM Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
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| 9teen.47™ (OP) User ID: 741610 United Kingdom08/04/2009 05:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Texas, Thanks for the post. I just watched the video, it's a pretty good one. Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
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| 9teen.47™ (OP) User ID: 741610 United Kingdom08/04/2009 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very hard to tell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318585Probably not that low. I voted 15 000 ft Hi 318585,I voted for 5,000 to 10,000 feet myself, but tending more towards 10,000 feet. But it's a bit harder looking at a video, rather than actually being there. So who knows, you could be right. Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
| The Guy User ID: 701660 United States08/04/2009 06:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, considering that the jet exhaust has caused ice crystals to condense from the surrounding air, and these have formed clouds intsead of subliming, it would have to be over 30,000ft. It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out. |
| 9teen.47™ (OP) User ID: 741960 United Kingdom08/04/2009 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, considering that the jet exhaust has caused ice crystals to condense from the surrounding air, and these have formed clouds intsead of subliming, it would have to be over 30,000ft. Quoting: The GuyOh, really. Somehow I would have thought that it came from you. Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 08/04/2009 10:31 AM Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
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