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Everyone to receive a chip implant via the Health Care Bill

 
stang1st
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Page 1001-1008 of the H.R. 3200, “America’s Affordable Health Choices Act”

Explains that they will implement a national medical device that will be implantable (AKA the chip or if you are a bible reader "the mark of the beast".

This in and of its self should get some fighting mad. Will it you? This ACT is against all that a true American stands for. (Get up stand up, stand up for your rights) Read it for your selves!

I of course para-phrased this section but it would do you well to read it yourself.

[link to waysandmeans.house.gov]

Subtitle C—National Medical
10 Device Registry
11 SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY.

‘‘National Medical Device Registry
21 ‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med
22 ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the
23 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and
24 outcomes data on each device that—
25 ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and
‘‘(B) is—
2 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or
3 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable,

(under Cornell law school:
[link to assembler.law.cornell.edu]

A class III device and a class II device means: (i) shall be submitted in accordance with part 803 of title 21, Code of Federal Regulations (or successor regulations), unless the Secretary grants an exemption or variance from, or an alternative to, a requirement under such regulations pursuant to section 803.19 of such part, if the device involved is—
(I) a class III device;
(II) a class II device that is permanently implantable, is life supporting, or is life sustaining; or
(III) a type of device which the Secretary has, by notice published in the Federal Register or letter to the person who is the manufacturer or importer of the device, indicated should be subject to such part 803 in order to protect the public health; )

‘‘(iii) other postmarket device surveillance
10 activities of the Secretary authorized by this
11 chapter; and

‘‘(4) Not later than 36 months after the date of the
22 enactment of this subsection, the Secretary shall promul23
gate regulations for establishment and operation of the
24 registry under paragraph (
1). Such regulations—

‘‘(5) To carry out this subsection, there are author13
ized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary
14 for fiscal years 2010 and 2011
.’’.
15 (2) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The Secretary of
16 Health and Human Services shall establish and
17 begin implementation of the registry under section
18 519(g) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic
19 Act, as added by paragraph (1), by not later than
20 the date that is 36 months after the date of the en
21 actment of this Act, without regard to whether or
22 not final regulations to establish and operate the
23 registry have been promulgated by such date.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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1984

Important info to get out, had to bump my own thread.
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There's enough wrong with HR 3200 without trying to connect dots, that actually aren't there.

This is a registry for medical devices that can be implantable, ie: internal pacemakers, etc.
To track outcomes of the device, patient tolerance, side effects, data of the device itself.

My reading this section, and my understanding does not support the idea that Obama will employ implanted medical data devices in those enrolled in Obamacare.

That said, there is a National ID Health Card that EVERYONE will be issued who is enrolled in Obamacare.

The facts of this Bill are horrible enough without trying to force something to fit.
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There's enough wrong with HR 3200 without trying to connect dots, that actually aren't there.

This is a registry for medical devices that can be implantable, ie: internal pacemakers, etc.
To track outcomes of the device, patient tolerance, side effects, data of the device itself.

My reading this section, and my understanding does not support the idea that Obama will employ implanted medical data devices in those enrolled in Obamacare.

That said, there is a National ID Health Card that EVERYONE will be issued who is enrolled in Obamacare.

The facts of this Bill are horrible enough without trying to force something to fit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 745040


The facts stand on their own. Read what you will but seeing the going trend to continue to lie to the American people and to deceive, I read that this is to implement the chipping phase of the people.

Bills can be used in conjunction with each other such as the REAL ID ACT. It is all coming together faster then you can imagine.

Please for your sake don't open your mind to the possibilities. Because what you want to believe and what is really happening are two different animals.
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PIN THIS SHIT!!
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wtf

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I don,t think this mark of beast,more like pacemakers,maybe?
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There's enough wrong with HR 3200 without trying to connect dots, that actually aren't there.

This is a registry for medical devices that can be implantable, ie: internal pacemakers, etc.
To track outcomes of the device, patient tolerance, side effects, data of the device itself.

My reading this section, and my understanding does not support the idea that Obama will employ implanted medical data devices in those enrolled in Obamacare.

That said, there is a National ID Health Card that EVERYONE will be issued who is enrolled in Obamacare.

The facts of this Bill are horrible enough without trying to force something to fit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 745040

Yeah, after further analysis of the text, I believe you are correct.

Last Edited by TheGasMan on 08/09/2009 01:14 PM
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I don,t think this mark of beast,more like pacemakers,maybe?
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Sorry there is no room in the Health bill for pacemaker. Too expensive. Lets discuss your options.
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Page 1001-1008 of the H.R. 3200, “America’s Affordable Health Choices Act”

Explains that they will implement a national medical device that will be implantable (AKA the chip or if you are a bible reader "the mark of the beast".

This in and of its self should get some fighting mad. Will it you? This ACT is against all that a true American stands for. (Get up stand up, stand up for your rights) Read it for your selves!

I of course para-phrased this section but it would do you well to read it yourself.

[link to waysandmeans.house.gov]

Subtitle C—National Medical
10 Device Registry
11 SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY.

‘‘National Medical Device Registry
21 ‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med
22 ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the
23 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and
24 outcomes data on each device that—
25 ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and
‘‘(B) is—
2 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or
3 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable,

(under Cornell law school:
[link to assembler.law.cornell.edu]

A class III device and a class II device means: (i) shall be submitted in accordance with part 803 of title 21, Code of Federal Regulations (or successor regulations), unless the Secretary grants an exemption or variance from, or an alternative to, a requirement under such regulations pursuant to section 803.19 of such part, if the device involved is—
(I) a class III device;
(II) a class II device that is permanently implantable, is life supporting, or is life sustaining; or
(III) a type of device which the Secretary has, by notice published in the Federal Register or letter to the person who is the manufacturer or importer of the device, indicated should be subject to such part 803 in order to protect the public health; )

‘‘(iii) other postmarket device surveillance
10 activities of the Secretary authorized by this
11 chapter; and

‘‘(4) Not later than 36 months after the date of the
22 enactment of this subsection, the Secretary shall promul23
gate regulations for establishment and operation of the
24 registry under paragraph (
1). Such regulations—

‘‘(5) To carry out this subsection, there are author13
ized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary
14 for fiscal years 2010 and 2011
.’’.
15 (2) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The Secretary of
16 Health and Human Services shall establish and
17 begin implementation of the registry under section
18 519(g) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic
19 Act, as added by paragraph (1), by not later than
20 the date that is 36 months after the date of the en
21 actment of this Act, without regard to whether or
22 not final regulations to establish and operate the
23 registry have been promulgated by such date.
 Quoting: stang1st 732795



OMG... they're trying to make the MARK OF THE BEAST law so you have to have one or be illegal to not have one.

FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!!!


NO WAY!!!!


PROTEST LOUD AND HARD to ALL THESE TRAITORS!!!
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There's enough wrong with HR 3200 without trying to connect dots, that actually aren't there.
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The dots are there and this is exactly what they hope to do, they have planned this for years with the start of Digital Angel.

NO IMPLANTABLE CHIPS!!!
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Hey OP ... nice find. It does leave it open-ended. "Device" could very well apply to implantable RFID.


[link to www.youtube.com]
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Hey OP ... nice find. It does leave it open-ended. "Device" could very well apply to implantable RFID.


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 741467


Thanks. BTW nice composition.
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!
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National Medical Device Registry says.
25:(a) is or has been used in or on patient.
3: (ii) a class II device that is implantable.
class II device is permanently implantable is life supporting or live-sustaining. Stop Being Parinoid!
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National Medical Device Registry says.
25:(a) is or has been used in or on patient.
3: (ii) a class II device that is implantable.
class II device is permanently implantable is life supporting or live-sustaining. Stop Being Parinoid!
 Quoting: lzbmason 745232


no one is being paranoid. Just stating what may/or will come of this. It's a matter of you willing to open your eyes to see and opening your ears to hear what is really going on.

In Barack Obama's own words...

" My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."

At this point almost anything that comes out of that man's mouth is double speak. So if this is the case then we should not dismiss any and all possibilities.

Please read between the lines. Besides this was already in the US codes. Why would they need to add it to this bill? They changed it to read a different meaning from the original.
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Hey OP ... nice find. It does leave it open-ended. "Device" could very well apply to implantable RFID.


[link to www.youtube.com]


Thanks. BTW nice composition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 732795



Thank you very much.

Great work on the research by the way.
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There's enough wrong with HR 3200 without trying to connect dots, that actually aren't there.

This is a registry for medical devices that can be implantable, ie: internal pacemakers, etc.
To track outcomes of the device, patient tolerance, side effects, data of the device itself.

My reading this section, and my understanding does not support the idea that Obama will employ implanted medical data devices in those enrolled in Obamacare.

That said, there is a National ID Health Card that EVERYONE will be issued who is enrolled in Obamacare.

The facts of this Bill are horrible enough without trying to force something to fit.
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There's enough wrong with HR 3200 without trying to connect dots, that actually aren't there.

This is a registry for medical devices that can be implantable, ie: internal pacemakers, etc.
To track outcomes of the device, patient tolerance, side effects, data of the device itself.

My reading this section, and my understanding does not support the idea that Obama will employ implanted medical data devices in those enrolled in Obamacare.

That said, there is a National ID Health Card that EVERYONE will be issued who is enrolled in Obamacare.

The facts of this Bill are horrible enough without trying to force something to fit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 745040


Lets try that again.

Anyone who believes that this bill will NOT be used to begin implanting microchips once mandatory vaccination protocols are in place should step to the back of the class, or, to the front of the class to get a better look-see.

crisco
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This is speaking of current technology such as pacemakers that are life supporting and permanent.
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There's enough wrong with HR 3200 without trying to connect dots, that actually aren't there.


The dots are there and this is exactly what they hope to do, they have planned this for years with the start of Digital Angel.

NO IMPLANTABLE CHIPS!!!

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TRUE ENOUGH... [link to www.digitalangel.com]

BUT IT WONT HAPPEN, SORRY FOR THEIR LUCK (INBREDS) tounge
Love The World, Save The Planet

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PIN THIS SHIT!!
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Yeah, pin this shit!! bump
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PIN THIS SHIT!!

Yeah, pin this shit!! bump
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No one's gonna pin this shit...
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Sounds plausable.
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listen up----if it was the mark as you say, it will be worldwide..not a US thing.


And it will be financially based.
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listen up----if it was the mark as you say, it will be worldwide..not a US thing.


And it will be financially based.
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Yeah , but.....AMERICA is their or WAS THEIR leader! So, it could be a test to what is coming to your country soon!!!

Fox
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I don,t think this mark of beast,more like pacemakers,maybe?
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At first I thought you meant pacemakers are the mark of the beast, LOL, and considering Dick Cheney has one ...
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lol You people are already chipped, you just don't know it!

The chip was painless, and invisible to the naked eye.......but can be read from orbiting satellites........you know, the one's they were supposed to be putting up during the 'Star Wars' campaign!!! :(

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