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Mods, Please clarify what constitutes shilling and stalking

 
KeepingItReal
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Mods, Please clarify what constitutes shilling and stalking
Seems that since Trinity posted about shills and trolls and how he is trying to keep them off the site, every time I post, people are threatening to report me as a stalker and have me banned. I thought the incident Trinity referred to was to do with Obama and all that, not sure since I am not really interested in those topics. But it seems some people think that posting counter point on threads about planet x or Jupiter ignition or planets that aren't planets but spaceships is shilling, trolling and stalking and should be censored and banned. I just want to make sure I am not stepping out of bounds by speaking my mind in a respectful way on these threads.

I am sure you guys are busy enough without everyone crying for your intervention every time someone disagrees with them, and I don't want to add to the load, but it would be nice to know what your definition of trolling, stalking and shilling is. I like GLP because you don't have to be politically correct and up until now, I have been able to speak my mind as long as I don't get abusive.

Thanks mods, your replies are appreciated.
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08/12/2009 02:04 PM

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Bumping in hopes that a mod will see this and reply. I am concerned because on a thread I posted on, the OP has stated that myself and others that post counter point have not only been reported to the mods, but we are being tracked so that we can be shut down. There were also threats about suing people for being in disagreement. If these are the new rules of what is acceptable at GLP, I don't know if I want to continue here. The thread in question is called Ask Candace. If my posts there or those of a particular debunker fall into the category of shilling, as per GLP rules, I would like to know. It isn't cool that people threaten lawsuits, tracking and banning for merely disagreeing. If I have crossed the line, I would like to know. If it is considered acceptable to threaten others with legal action for participating on a thread, I would also like to know. Thanks for your replies, mods.
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08/12/2009 02:11 PM

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Well you aren't here on mission sent by others with some sort of agenda to stop discussion, so you aren't a shill then. Don't be insane abusive and you should be fine. People complain about those who have differing opinions all the time, we know who is here for no good reason, since you are reading this?...you can assume that doesn't describe you.
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08/12/2009 02:12 PM

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Thanks, man. I appreciate your reply and promise to play fair.
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08/12/2009 02:14 PM

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Re: Mods, Please clarify what constitutes shilling and stalking
It depends on the nature of the arguments. If it is an actual statement or debate such as the example the existence of Planet X then this is one thing. If it is laced with personal attack, random videos, emoticon spam etc and adds nothing to the discussion then this is another.

One more point is people utilizing multiple proxies and making many, many posts in an attempt to harass another away from the forum or make it appear their opinion is more popular. This has happened on occasion also and is a technique to silence the opinion of the OP.

There is nothing wrong with having a differing opinion, but there is no need for much of the hatefulness or personal attacks.

Does this help?
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08/12/2009 02:17 PM
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Thanks, man. I appreciate your reply and promise to play fair.
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Too late. I just reported this as an 'abusive post'. The 5-O are en route as we speak.
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08/12/2009 02:20 PM

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Yes it does help. I think I have been respectful, even though I was immediately accused of being a shill for defending a debunker. I have interest in debunking the topic, and try to stay rational and only get defensive when I am insulted or threatened. I have a tough skin, and I don't mind the insults, but I do draw the line at people advising me that I am being tracked and may be sued for something I wrote.
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08/12/2009 02:22 PM

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Yes it does help. I think I have been respectful, even though I was immediately accused of being a shill for defending a debunker. I have interest in debunking the topic, and try to stay rational and only get defensive when I am insulted or threatened. I have a tough skin, and I don't mind the insults, but I do draw the line at people advising me that I am being tracked and may be sued for something I wrote.
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People often call me D. bunker also.

:5:
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08/12/2009 02:25 PM
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Fascinating query. From my experience, it varies according to moderator, menstrual cycle date and of course, their individual prejudices and "pet peeves" if you will. Naturally, the shiny gold star people have more protection from this phenomenon than regular and/or registered posters, and AC's have the least protection of all...true AC's that is, not sock puppets.
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08/12/2009 02:28 PM
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I have interest in debunking the topic
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


why are you so concerned with what someone else thinks?
what is there to debunk? why do you want to disbelieve?
what exactly do you know?
just curious.
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08/12/2009 02:31 PM
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Re: Mods, Please clarify what constitutes shilling and stalking
the world is a crazy place, no?
the illuminatti is real, right?
aliens are real, right? there are good and bad ones, right?
9/11 was an inside job, right?
some ufo's do pose as stars, right?
the government is lying to you about everything, right?
government approved and controlled facts should not be trusted, right?


what is the problem OP?
hopefully you answered yes to all those....
again, what do you know?
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08/12/2009 02:37 PM
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Re: Mods, Please clarify what constitutes shilling and stalking
Fascinating query. From my experience, it varies according to moderator, menstrual cycle date and of course, their individual prejudices and "pet peeves" if you will. Naturally, the shiny gold star people have more protection from this phenomenon than regular and/or registered posters, and AC's have the least protection of all...true AC's that is, not sock puppets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725058


Well, i was one of those shiny gold star people.

Still banned for over a week... :-(
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08/12/2009 02:41 PM

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Re: Mods, Please clarify what constitutes shilling and stalking
I have interest in debunking the topic


why are you so concerned with what someone else thinks?
what is there to debunk? why do you want to disbelieve?
what exactly do you know?
just curious.
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I have good reasons, some personal and others resulting from how internet cults and new age bs affects people. I am a healer, and over the past few years, I have seen an alarming trend in my patients, a lot of the problem is directly attributable to these crazies that talk to aliens and superior beings. It is something I started noticing about 5 years ago, something I hadn't seen in 35 years of training and hands on work. I just try to put out a sane counterpoint in hopes that some will reflect and step back from the nonsense. You might think that it is harmless bullshit, but I have seen that it isn't so. Just trying to prevent the spread of this shit by providing a sane counter point. A lot of people are desperately searching for something meaningful, and some are easily sucked into cults that devour their energy.
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I have interest in debunking the topic


why are you so concerned with what someone else thinks?
what is there to debunk? why do you want to disbelieve?
what exactly do you know?
just curious.

I have good reasons, some personal and others resulting from how internet cults and new age bs affects people. I am a healer, and over the past few years, I have seen an alarming trend in my patients, a lot of the problem is directly attributable to these crazies that talk to aliens and superior beings. It is something I started noticing about 5 years ago, something I hadn't seen in 35 years of training and hands on work. I just try to put out a sane counterpoint in hopes that some will reflect and step back from the nonsense. You might think that it is harmless bullshit, but I have seen that it isn't so. Just trying to prevent the spread of this shit by providing a sane counter point. A lot of people are desperately searching for something meaningful, and some are easily sucked into cults that devour their energy.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


what is the problem?
that someone believes that someone else is channeling aliens and you disagree?
the problem is that you disagree?
or the problem is you want to help them?
why do you think no one talks to aliens/4D+ entities?
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08/12/2009 02:50 PM
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why do you use the word "cult"?
its as if you have a problem with people who aren't politically correct.
this makes others not want to give you the time or day.
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08/12/2009 02:51 PM
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i'm not trying to start anything here, just trying to see where you're coming from.
hf
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08/12/2009 02:54 PM

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Why? Because I know it isn't true. I know they might think that's whats going on, I don't deny encounters, just the interpretation of what is really going on. I am trained in the ancient art of healing of my indigenous ancestors in my two countries of nationality. I know about spirit and energy. I have been trained to see energetic patterns and heal imbalances, which are the root cause of most illnesses. If you saw some of the things I have seen in my patients, you would probably be compelled to do something about it too.
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CULT:
"Cult definitions coined from 1920 onward refer to a cohesive social group and their devotional beliefs or practices, which the surrounding population considers to be outside of mainstream cultures. The surrounding population may be as small as a neighborhood, or as large as the community of nations. They gratify curiosity about, take action against, or ignore a group, depending on its reputed similarity to cults previously reported by mass media."
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08/12/2009 03:00 PM
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so...
you know that...
NO ONE talks to aliens.

that is what this is about?

how do you know this?

can you be more specific? i still don't see a problem.
you are saying your patients, that you heal, have problems because they read on the internet that Salusa from Sirius says everything will be okay in the end?
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My patients get into trouble by following people that are messing with things they don't understand. They give up their power, they allow entities to feed off their energy without realizing it. One of the most dangerous ones I have encountered is the fire the grid. It is very detrimental to people's energetic balance. This world is not what most of us think it is. The best way of figuring that out and discovering your own place and purpose in this place we call reality is to look inward. Follow no one. Let spirit show you a path. There are no benevolent beings that are going to hold our hand. We are only together in this reality because there is a consensus. The truth is we are alone on our individual paths, and to believe in salvation from higher beings is to renounce your power and be food for forces that most people don't understand. I will also say that some of the most venomous people out there are the ones that proclaim love and light and wave crystals in the air. They obviously believe what they are doing and participating in, but they do not see what is really going on, and how they are being deceived.
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08/12/2009 03:15 PM
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well said hf
and i hear you now

but not everyone is like that.

hf


p.s. nibiru is real but where it is and how close it is is another story.

it does suck there is so much disinfo out there.
people (WE) really have no clue as to anything....
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08/12/2009 03:21 PM

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Niburu is no more or less real than this reality you find yourself in, and the more you affirm it, the more "real" it becomes. I assure you that there are infinite realities available to you where Niburu does not exist, nor does this planet or this universe.
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08/12/2009 03:24 PM
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Niburu is no more or less real than this reality you find yourself in, and the more you affirm it, the more "real" it becomes. I assure you that there are infinite realities available to you where Niburu does not exist, nor does this planet or this universe.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Finally, something we can agree upon! :)
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I have nothing to do with anything, just someone that finds some of the topics very interesting. I was banned and have no reason.
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08/12/2009 03:28 PM
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Same to me !!
I have been banned almost every day even before posting !!
I also been unbanned by some kind Mod !!
I feel like Tom Cruise in the Minority Report movie , guilty before a crime happened !!
Using a Web proxy is a pain in the ass !!
Maybe my ISP is completely banned !!
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Niburu is no more or less real than this reality you find yourself in, and the more you affirm it, the more "real" it becomes. I assure you that there are infinite realities available to you where Niburu does not exist, nor does this planet or this universe.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


just because people may not know of something, it does not make it non existent.
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08/12/2009 03:33 PM
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Many thanks to whichever mod responded to my ban email yesterday evening. I'm going home with my fingers crossed that something may have been resolved.

Thanks again.

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Same to me !!
I have been banned almost every day even before posting !!
I also been unbanned by some kind Mod !!
I feel like Tom Cruise in the Minority Report movie , guilty before a crime happened !!
Using a Web proxy is a pain in the ass !!
Maybe my ISP is completely banned !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 745174



I feel somebody is active hunting me.

After every post i do, i have to find another proxy...
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Niburu is no more or less real than this reality you find yourself in, and the more you affirm it, the more "real" it becomes. I assure you that there are infinite realities available to you where Niburu does not exist, nor does this planet or this universe.


just because people may not know of something, it does not make it non existent.
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edit to add:
what you're saying is like saying an ants reality has no understanding of planets so therefore nibiru doesn't exist. period.
but that is false, because the ant is there and so is nibiru. just because the ant doesn't know, it doesn't make planets non-existent.
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Niburu is no more or less real than this reality you find yourself in, and the more you affirm it, the more "real" it becomes. I assure you that there are infinite realities available to you where Niburu does not exist, nor does this planet or this universe.


just because people may not know of something, it does not make it non existent.
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If you can imagine it, think it, it does exist, somewhere. It just isn't as real as you think it is. It is no more or less real than anything else you can imagine. Reality is not what you have been conditioned to think it is.
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If you can imagine it, think it, it does exist, somewhere. It just isn't as real as you think it is. It is no more or less real than anything else you can imagine. Reality is not what you have been conditioned to think it is.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


but... you're saying things don't exist when they do.
i can't even begin to imagine and understand the complexity of it all and neither can you... but you're saying "in other realities" things don't exist?
what if in another reality they have "musical instruments" that play visual art giving birth to dna stands in fast forward animation rib cages? lol. in a way that would blow your mind if you were to witness it right now. i mean, we don't have that here on earth, but "somewhere" out there it exists. right?

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