((( UPDATE ))) DEATHTRAILS OVER PHOENIX - Chemtrails and the Occult - Gallium in new Phoenix air samples. 9/17/09 - page 14

:konno2: No what is confusing is your use of the term iron. These are actually particles that are but a fraction of a micron wide. (1,000,000 microns to a metre or about 39 inches).

You know something really bad happened in Phoenix. And it would help if you could be bothered to read things in conjunction with the Lab Report that I posted on page 1. Making out that 1.68% of the atmosphere in Phoenix consists of iron particles is just plain dumb.

[link to www.rense.com]

A phoenix is a mythical bird with a colorful plumage and a tail of gold and scarlet (or purple, blue, and green according to some legends). It has a 500 to 1,000 year life-cycle, near the end of which it builds itself a nest of myrrh twigs that then ignites; both nest and bird burn fiercely and are reduced to ashes, from which a new, young phoenix or phoenix egg arises, reborn anew to live again. The new phoenix is destined to live as long as its old self. In some stories, the new phoenix embalms the ashes of its old self in an egg made of myrrh and deposits it in the Egyptian city of Heliopolis (sun city in Greek:)

Seeing as how it sits on the 33rd degree of latitude and is expected to die and be reborn it is not to hard to figure out what it means. That town got dumped on, probably like no other town thus far, in the history of Chemtrailing.

Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 09/08/2009 02:59 PM

well let me know the outcome on this.. Ill check back later. It sucks Ive got work to do.. on all days


laters


Rush

"No what is confusing is your use of the term iron. These are actually particles that are but a fraction of a micron wide. (1,000,000 microns to a metre or about 39 inches).
"

Are you seriously this stupid?

Iron is Iron. The lab reports YOU posted state Iron. Iron is an element, not a size determination, not a term.

Unless you are somehow telling us it is really not Iron, even though the data graphics you posted say Iron, but that it really isnt because of its size.

I have been giving you plenty of chances to explain what the hell you are posting about when you starting this thread, and you just keep sinking deeper and deeper

Eventually, I am going to post the reality of the data and measurements, but just giving you the chance to do that first to let you avoid looking utterly silly.

You didn't answer his question: Do you really believe that 1.68% of all atoms over Phoenix are iron atoms?

OK lets use the term atoms then. Now if we are thinking in terms of normal low level chemtrail spraying at 8000 to 12000 feet or so, then yeah it is difficult to come up with such high numbers.

But obviously we ain't. I am thinking more on the insane levels like Agent Orange in Vietnam, with quite a lot of large aircraft involved. Oh yeah and a major media clampdown. In which you are are playing a "damage control" part.

As well as ignoring for your own purposes the Lab Report that I posted on page 1. It is very misleading of you to say that 1.68% of the air is iron, thats just plain stupid.

[link to www.rense.com]

Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 09/08/2009 02:39 PM

I'll try and believe that you are being sarcastic here ;)



If that is the case, why don't you upload the full image to a third-party image host (imageshack?), and let us make up our own minds?

You really are out of touch with reality, then. If there really were that much iron in the air, there would be rust deposits everywhere. A magnet left outside would be covered by the end of a day!

:shibuya: Normally I would say screw you, but I'm in a good mood today.

[link to 98.131.164.239]

Probably because most of it is in peoples lungs and clogging your brain cells.

Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 09/07/2009 03:56 PM

Oh, right, because it's "smart rust," that seeks out lung tissue.

You really are just making this up as you go along.

Doesn't really help - it's just the same poor quality scan from god knows where.

Where did you get it from? I've googled the title, but - appropriately enough - it only ever seems to crop up on chemtrail sites, and no-one seems to be able to quote the original source.

(sigh) When it's in the air it gets breathed in.

And another point. It could well be that not all of this crap comes from aircraft. Phoenix could well be getting some of it, by being dispersed through factory smoke stacks on the QT. And it might help you to know what you are talking about if you could be bothered to read the Lab Report that I originally posted on page 1.

[link to www.rense.com]

Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 09/07/2009 03:58 PM

This is the bullshit she is promoting:

[link to 98.131.164.239]

And they get this from the defunct 'Wildlands Project' here:

[link to www.twp.org]

And the original 'map' is archived here:

[link to www.cuttingedge.org]

It was a bullshit pipe dream from an eco-nazi group that realized they were pissing in the wind and had to reform as they lost members...

here's a picture I took over eastern Arizona last year..

[link to img36.imageshack.us]

761339,

You sound a bit desperate to me. And what about the other Conventions, Programs and Projects mentioned on the map. Have they suddenly ceased to exist?

What about the thousands of farmers in the Pacific NW and the Central Valley who are facing bankruptcy because their water has been cut off because of these treaties. All this is very real and your BS is just more lies to make it seem like everything is OK, when it is not OK.



And in the meantime lets not forget that a part of the Chemtrail Agenda is Agenda 21.

This is the new updated version

THE AGENDA 21 DEATH MAP.

Simulated Reserve and Corridor System to Protect Biodiversity.

As Mandated by the Convention on Biological Diversity, The Wildlands Project, UN and US Man and the Biosphere Program and Various UN, US Heritage Programs and NAFTA.

:a21:

RED Core Reserves and Corridors - Little to no human use.
YELLOW Buffer Zones - Highly Regulated Use.
TURQUOSE Normal Use Zones of Cooperation.
ORANGE Border 21/La Paz Sidebar Agreement of NAFTA. 124 mile wide International Zone of Cooperation.
PINK Indian Reservations.
GRAY Military Reservations.
BLACK DOTS Cities over 10,000 people.
Some major highways and Interstate rivers are also shown.

Taken from the United Nations Convention on Biological Diversity Article ??,* United Nations Global Diversity Assessment Section 1? to ??. US Man and the Biosphere Strategic Plan. UN, US Heritage Corridor Program. "The Wildlands Project," Wild Earth 1992. Also see Science "The High Cost of Biodiversity," 25 June 1993 pp ?? to ?? and the boarder v21 sidebar of NAFTA. The very high percentage of buffer zone in the West is due to the very high percentage of Federal land.

??* Sorry but I cannot read all of the small type at the bottom.

Are you "Stuck on Stupid"

You have no such evidence of anything you allege, you just toss out bizarre allegation, one after another, hoping that the speculation magically becomes evidence. Oh that you could not forget to then include someone who questions you, as part of the conspiracy

Sorry, there is not any way for this vast huge conspiracy of large numbers of aircraft, flying through Phoenix Class B airspace, and somehow nobody on the air or ground notices it.

Hey, for shits and grins, do you want to add up how many aircraft and how much of this magical iron and barium mixture it would take? Oh thats right, you have no idea how to do math that is beyond an 8 year old level.

But, here is the last opportunity for you to actually explain what this data actually in those graphics that you posted and the amounts you allege.

Its better that you actually post the reality of it, rather than let me do it and everyone can see you are yet again clueless.

Thanks for the picture 761102.

Hmmm, I'd say from here that it obviously looks like lingering contrails in super saturated icing conditions at 6 or 7 miles high.

:konno: firepilot,

er... did you check the lab report? Your claims that according to the graph 1.68% of the local atmosphere has to be iron particles is just plain stupid. You have to read the graph in conjunction with the Lab Report. Then it will be obvious that you are talking out of your tailpipe.


THIS IS THE LAB REPORT

Chemtrails - Lab Report On
Air Grab Thru HEPA Filter
Bridget Conroy
ArizonaSkyWatch.com
6-8-8

This is the final Lab Report RE: air material analysis. This was a 28 day collection via HEPA filter, 8 hours per day collection. Please note the extremely high Aluminum reading 12,800,000 ppb.

The actual lab report is below.

Please let us know if you have research material surrounding this 'report'. All ideas are encouraged. Previous analysis records are rain, surface water and soil.

You will need to click on the link because I cannot upload it within GLPs simile limits...

[link to www.rense.com]

Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 09/08/2009 02:50 PM

Nice dodge, but I asked YOU to explain what it is to everyone here. If you are going to post things like this, YOU need to know what the hell you are posting, rather than just reposting conspiracy nonsense.

I have already seen Mr Tims posting, and his tables. But you in your own words tell us what it means.

Dodge? This here's Tombstone. You must have got on the wrong train Mister.



Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 09/07/2009 03:18 PM

First off, that was me with the same ID I have had for days...



The 'farmers' in the PacNW are in shit due to US laws regarding preservation of a fucking allegedly 'endangered' fish...This has NOTHING to do with the UN...

As for 'updated', there has not been an 'update' to that map since 1992...

You finally said something fairly sane...

"Dodge? This here's Tombstone. You must have got on the wrong train Mister."

I'm your Huckleberry.

Okay, gave you enough chances to explain yourself and why you posted this "data". So here is the reality of it all.

You posted something, alleged as an indicator of air quality, that is absolutely NOT what you are claiming it is by means of posting that drivel and meaningless data.

It is NOT air quality analysis at all, and you proved you were really clueless as to what any of it was or even meant. You posted those tables as an air quality measurement, with numbers in a RATIO of PPB as you alleged, which is a math relationship, which you are first said it was a ratio then later said it was not.

Basically, all this thing was, is that someone collected enough particulate pollution and dust into a testable sample and then had it tested for composition.

That 556,000 PPB does not mean that Barium is at some massive deadly high level. What it means, is that out of that dust and particulate sample, .56% of the sample was Barium.

That is absolutely not how much by weight was found, and that percentage measurement is NOT even a measure of air quality, because then you need the weight of barium compared to total amount of air used, since particulate air quality measurements are usually in micrograms per cubic meter of air.

Obvious a whole lot of air was used to get that small testable sample, since that pump ran for quite a few hours.
Such utterly spectacular claims should have been the first clue something was amiss in this wild claim that barium was at 600 times the toxic level, would would have really meant everyone in Phoenix should be dead or dying.

Some guy made up some junk science and you fell completely for it, so much that you did not even think about what the data meant. You just posted it all gleefully like some lemming, when in reality it does nothing at all to prove chemmie claims and actually disproves wildly high levels of barium claims. And what kind of fool mistakes composition of a particulate sample, with a sample/air volume relationship

You like latin? How about Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

Oh I guess I should have mentioned earlier, that besides being a Airline Transport/Commercial rated pilot, that my undergraduate degree was a Bachelor of Science in Environmental Science. (grin)

firepilot,

Look you have been playing games ever since you came on this thread. Saying I said stuff I didn't, misrepresenting what I said and more distractions than a gang of pickpockets.

No one that I could see on a Google search of the first 30 or 40 entries has attempted to debunk him. Therefore I say that until such time as anyone can come up with evidence to the contrary that Ted Twietmeyer's report stands.

Who are you? Some anonymous coward who plays word games. The argument about the identity of a particular aircraft is a side issue.

Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 09/07/2009 06:08 PM

Pictures of young Asian woman does nothing to do distract for your lack of any kind of comprehension, nor do paragraphs of spam distract either.

If you had actually understood in the slightest, you would have not posted such junk science nonsense, and you would not still think it was true eiehr

You got taken in, simply put. You feel for chemmie junk science, all because it fell into what you want to believe, into your barium wet dreams.

You, by way of Mr Twietmeyer, posted test results of particulate composition as a mistaken indicator of sampled air quality, but you did not know exactly at all what the heck you were posting.

By the way, air samping is taking a SAMPLE of air, and testing it for amounts of pollutants, not just running a pump for hundreds of hours until you gather enough dust and pollution.

Which as we all know, is what chemmies do anyways, They just repost either others nonsense, as evidence for their own conspiracies.

But hey, just for grins, tell us what a normal amount of barium in dust or soil should be.

Yeah well like I just said Ted Twietmeyer's material is posted on the internet. The Chemtrail debunker community has had plenty of time to mount an attack on his sampling methods and the way the tests where carried out. Yet there is nothing.

WHY IS THAT? That must obviously be because he is doing what he is doing in a professional manner. There is nothing there to form the basis of an attack.

You are deliberately misrepresenting the graph tables, which have to be read in conjunction with the Lab Report that I posted on page 1. 1.68% iron in the atmosphere indeed.

Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 09/08/2009 02:54 PM

Thats rubbish. There could well be several thousand chemtrail spraying operations taking place around the world every day of the year. But let me tell you this. On Judgement Day the true figures will come out. In fact I would not be all that surprised if there is not a special section in hell for poisoners. If so there could well be a section for those of you who are knowingly involved in this great evil and who die in their sins.

Make no mistake this is a great crime against the Creator and His creation. It will not go unpunished, as you will find out if you also die in your sins.

You have absolutely no critical thinking ability do you?

I just explained how his data was totally useless, and that all he "data" in reality shows, is just the percentage makeup of the dust/particulates are.

There is no way you can explain it away as anything else. Nor are you able to logically defend any of it. All you can do in support, is again offer your own "speculation" as some kind of evidence and lots of little girl pics.

You can not even logically rebut anything I posted, or even logically defend him since you are clueless as can be. Only a complete mental midget, confuses the percent composition, with air quality analysis.

Again, I ask you what is a normal barium amount for the soil?

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Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 09/08/2009 04:25 AM

OP, your over the top manic thread title is off-putting.