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LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine
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Doomamatrix  User ID: 739879 8/16/2009 4:41 PM
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Sir.Kalin User ID: 749570 8/16/2009 4:48 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote | I don't see how there can be much shadow-of-a-doubt cast upon this anymore now.
After reading back a few pages from while I was away, I saw some questioning whether Joseph Moshe in the car during the standoff, and Moshe Bar Joseph the retired Israeli professor were the same guy or not.
First of all, it doesn't seem like they read or took into account what I wrote about the 'car-Moshe's hair being black and possibly a toupee. Perhaps he started taking Rogaine and died his hair. At this point the hair issue is really a side issue to me.
Also, the pics at the link that somebody had provided showing the pics of the Moshe in the car that they claimed did not look like the Moshe Bar Joseph at all, were all non-facial shots. And none of them included the one I linked to prior, which is now shown below.
I remember seeing one of the first there with the window half down, and covering up nearly his entire face! The rest were predominantly of either the side, rear or back of his head.
Not only does the background of Moshe Bar Joseph match the OP's description, but from what I can tell (barring the dissimilarities in head hair) these two appear to be the same Moshe:

 - Jesus paid for our sins, now let's get our money's worth.
- The only hot-dog that needs a warning label is the 'Barney Frank'.
- You can’t argue with reason against a position that isn’t based on reason.
- Those who just want 'free-will' and don't exercise it, would not be capable of keeping it if they had it.
- Isaiah 45:7 - "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 749711 8/16/2009 4:49 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
I don't see how there can be much shadow-of-a-doubt cast upon this anymore now.
After reading back a few pages from while I was away, I saw some questioning whether Joseph Moshe in the car during the standoff, and Moshe Bar Joseph the retired Israeli professor were the same guy or not.
First of all, it doesn't seem like they read or took into account what I wrote about the 'car-Moshe's hair being black and possibly a toupee. Perhaps he started taking Rogaine and died his hair. At this point the hair issue is really a side issue to me.
Also, the pics at the link that somebody had provided showing the pics of the Moshe in the car that they claimed did not look like the Moshe Bar Joseph at all, were all non-facial shots. And none of them included the one I linked to prior, which is now shown below.
I remember seeing one of the first there with the window half down, and covering up nearly his entire face! The rest were predominantly of either the side, rear or back of his head.
Not only does the background of Moshe Bar Joseph match the OP's description, but from what I can tell (barring the dissimilarities in head hair) these two appear to be the same Moshe:
:Joseph Mos:
:Moshe Bar : Quoting: Sir.Kalin
Yes. They do look very similar. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 749711 8/16/2009 4:50 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote | Some are also wondering how Moshe withstood the multiple rounds of tear gas.
"Anybody who is exposed to tear gas in such a confined space for an extended period of time -- over 30 to 60 minutes -- could actually even have permanent damage afterwards," said Dr. Joseph Shapiro, a breathing specialist who experienced tear gas when working in a bank. "And the fact that this person was able to stay in a car for so long, without getting any fresh air, is really unknown."
[link to abclocal.go.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 591484 8/16/2009 4:57 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
I don't see how there can be much shadow-of-a-doubt cast upon this anymore now.
After reading back a few pages from while I was away, I saw some questioning whether Joseph Moshe in the car during the standoff, and Moshe Bar Joseph the retired Israeli professor were the same guy or not.
First of all, it doesn't seem like they read or took into account what I wrote about the 'car-Moshe's hair being black and possibly a toupee. Perhaps he started taking Rogaine and died his hair. At this point the hair issue is really a side issue to me.
Also, the pics at the link that somebody had provided showing the pics of the Moshe in the car that they claimed did not look like the Moshe Bar Joseph at all, were all non-facial shots. And none of them included the one I linked to prior, which is now shown below.
I remember seeing one of the first there with the window half down, and covering up nearly his entire face! The rest were predominantly of either the side, rear or back of his head.
Not only does the background of Moshe Bar Joseph match the OP's description, but from what I can tell (barring the dissimilarities in head hair) these two appear to be the same Moshe:
:Joseph Mos:
:Moshe Bar : Quoting: Sir.Kalin
Are Joseph Bar Moshe's parents named Albert and Julia?
anyone want to call and ask his 84 year old mother any questions, I have their home phone number. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 591484 8/16/2009 5:01 PM | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 749918 8/16/2009 5:39 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
who was the other person in the VW? Have they said who it was?
No one else was in the vehicle, try that on for size...
if there had been they would of been more cautious in deploying gas etc...
It was a ruse to quantify their supposed overkill...a red herring is what I would call it... a RED herring, quite RED
Back before the financial market crashed I came here and stated the shearing of the flock was coming-shearing shearing shearing...and we were all sheared-even the poor, and surprisingly even many rich!
Now we have the persecution coming...the martyrs...the saints...the religions will be persecuted but especially Christians...under communism....the folks wagon...crushed and gassed...TRAppED by many forces-and rambo is suppose to save the day-not going to happen...although divine assistance will eventually come...it will be hellfire and destruction throughout before...most will be gone when that day happens...the fleshly will mainly of passed due to the killing field that I C
Blood up to bridles...literally
Time to buy a horse I guess...
EMP will not work on horses or bicycles...but they have other stuff for the truly radical =I
[/quote) ... Get ready.....think Rambo Part 1.....if they will not let it go. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 748954 8/16/2009 5:50 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
His family and neighbors might have mistook internal conflict and nervousness for "mental illness" if this story is true.
And the authorities and MSM would further play up that angle so no one would listen to him.
Is there any way to verify whether he was booked or not? I think booking records (name & charge, not personal info) are public record. Plus he would have an arraignment within 48 hours if he has been arrested. If he was arrested I wonder if he was taken to county or the feds took him?
It is bizarre that they would let him go after that standoff! Why would the feds let him go??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 706726
check the county's inmate lookup. most places have one and as far as i know, most wanted by the federal government are booked in the county jail then in transit to the federal detainment center. whether this is because the local PD picks up the man or the feds taking them into holding in county i don't know.
but he was most likely booked in the county jail. |
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CRYSTAL in MATRIX User ID: 501458 8/16/2009 5:51 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote | from an AC on page 14 of original thread:
I just heard on the scanner, that he has a hostage tied up in the back. They said it was a Michael Vale, no further details. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 748954 8/16/2009 5:52 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Say, where is the OP?? Quoting: Doomamatrix
he's probably having some much needed R & R at camp fema, compliments of mama and papa government. |
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cygnid@gmail.com User ID: 748344 8/16/2009 6:02 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote | I don't know why GLP uses my email address for user name but that's the way it is. I wonder how many users recall that the moment of the takedown coincided with the perp raising both hands to the window's edge? The pic of the perp must have made it even more difficult to plug him as he looks like he and the horse he rode in on, are harmless. As for Sorcha Faal, she has always made more sense to me than anything I see mainstream. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 749258 8/16/2009 6:07 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote | Explains why MSM didnt touch the story with a ten foot pole.
It amazed me why they cover LA car chases but not one whisp of this event. And the standoff was for 9 hours. |
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jarha  User ID: 645811 8/16/2009 6:18 PM
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lately they started to use the United States Secret Service.
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The United States Secret Service is a United States federal law enforcement agency that falls under the United States Department of Homeland Security.
The sworn members are divided among the Special Agents and the Uniformed Division. Until March 1, 2003, the Service was part of the United States Department of Treasury.
The U.S. Secret Service has two distinct areas of responsibility:
Treasury roles, covering missions such as prevention and investigation of counterfeiting of U.S. currency and U.S. treasury bonds notes and investigation of major fraud.
Protective roles, ensuring the safety of national VIPs such as the President, past presidents, vice presidents, presidential candidates, their families, foreign embassies (per an agreement with the U.S. State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security (DS) Office of Foreign Missions (OFM)), etc.
Last Edited by jarha on 8/16/2009 at 6:19 PM ___________________________________
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COUNTDOWN TO 12/21/2012
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Doomamatrix  User ID: 739879 8/16/2009 6:33 PM
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 749947 8/16/2009 6:45 PM | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 749947 8/16/2009 6:51 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote | Oh and here is a comparison - side by side:
[link to i31.tinypic.com]
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 749941 8/16/2009 6:53 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Has anyone even determined if this is indeed the same Moshe ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 747789
No. |
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jarha  User ID: 645811 8/16/2009 7:05 PM
 | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote | Intresting that it took to police just 10 minutes to search his house.
BTW, I’m missing at the scene Howitzers, Rocket Launchers and Stealth Bombers.
WACO anybody?
Last Edited by jarha on 8/16/2009 at 7:07 PM ___________________________________
KNOW THY ENEMY:
THIS IS NOT YOUR MOTHER'S DEMOCRATIC PARTY
___________________________________
COUNTDOWN TO 12/21/2012
STARTED ON 04/26/2009
We need REVOLUTION
a. a turning round or rotating, as on an axis.
b. a moving in a circular or curving course, as about a central point.
c. a single cycle in such a course.
___________________________
[link to www.sarahpac.com]
There is no thing endowed with life - from man, who is enslaving the elements, to the nimblest creature - in all this world that does not sway in its turn. Whenever action is born from force, though it be infinitesimal, the cosmic balance is upset and the universal motion results. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 684295 8/16/2009 7:12 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote | They let him go back to Israel because he is being protected by them. He is important to them or perhaps they just want to deal with his loose lips themselves.
As t all the troops being called out to arrest him.
Standard procedure these days.
They like to make a show of force to intimidate the rest of us. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 684295 8/16/2009 7:17 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
I don't know why GLP uses my email address for user name but that's the way it is. Quoting: cygnid@gmail.com 748344
You must have put something in the "user name" box.
If you just leave it blank you will be A/C. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 684295 8/16/2009 7:21 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote | So is that pic above from the county records?
As said earlier, you can check out "Who's in jail" by location and get the photo they took along with info on charges and disposition. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 723198 8/16/2009 7:21 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote | bump |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 317014 8/16/2009 7:24 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote | This is going to sound really off the wall, but the Joe Moshe in the red bug looks like a younger version of the Joe Moshe in the comparison photo. They look a LOT alike...I know this sounds weird, but what if he was getting younger? The man resisted a lot of tear gas, he's clearly beyond normal. Maybe he found a way to turn back the clock somehow? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 728254 8/16/2009 7:26 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
The beginning of OP'S story is:
"On a bleak island in the Aral Sea,"
AND ON ANOTHER THREAD POSTED HERE THIS EVENING AN OP POSTS PHOTOS OF THE ARAL SEA..... WTF
link: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
I DON'T FIND THIS COINCIDENTAL I FIND ITG SUSPICIOUS....
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 749941 8/16/2009 7:31 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
This is going to sound really off the wall, but the Joe Moshe in the red bug looks like a younger version of the Joe Moshe in the comparison photo. They look a LOT alike...I know this sounds weird, but what if he was getting younger? The man resisted a lot of tear gas, he's clearly beyond normal. Maybe he found a way to turn back the clock somehow? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317014
Maybe it was his son in the car and the unknown, unmentioned person that got out at some indiscriminate part of the auto chase, as noted by a female reporter live, was actually the father? Maybe that's why they carted him off so gently. BECAUSE IT WAS NOT HIM! heheheh jk. but not really. The chin, nose, earlobes and eyes are similar. Btw, there were several people listed at that LA address of his, including his mother.  |
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Doomamatrix  User ID: 739879 8/16/2009 7:33 PM
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for the evening crowd. |
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Eden User ID: 638592 8/16/2009 7:36 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |

Why not pinnie pinnie?
Getting better by the minute
Passenger Michael Vale.
Dr. Michael Vale? |
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HL Shancken User ID: 574264 8/16/2009 8:15 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote | I just talked to my source and while he has no additional information at this time he stands by all the information he gave me last night. As to the issue of the handcuffs, he noted that they were actually plastic ties and that they were taken off Moshe when he reached the decon station, and he wasn't restrained by either cuffs or ties from that point on. The important thing to know is that Moshe was never placed under arrest.
As for the Sorcha Faal report, I reiterate that if anything, Faal, or Booth, or whoever that ficticious name represents (as likely as not someoone working on behalf of the FSB) read the thread here and, as he/she usually does, crafted his/her misleading version of the story. It's interesting to note that Faal didn't mention anything about Ukraine (which my source stands by as the location of the source of the vaccine/poison). But then, Sorcha Faal never has anything but the nicest things to say about that part of the world. ______________
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 728979 8/16/2009 8:19 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
The important thing to know is that Moshe was never placed under arrest. Quoting: HL Shancken
Sounds like diplomatic immunity? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 749951 8/16/2009 8:25 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
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