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LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine

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cygnid@gmail.com
User ID: 748344
8/16/2009 8:26 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

It turns out that the Italian and his family aboard the helicopter that was t-boned and dropped into the Hudson was a bio-weapons scientist in Italy. It was also pointed out that the Cessna was on auto-pilot at the time of the crash.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749695
8/16/2009 8:27 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

The important thing to know is that Moshe was never placed under arrest.

Sounds like diplomatic immunity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 728979



errr, well, normally in this type of situation he would be carted off to the nearest ER to be certified. News would not write about that.

I hear ya HL, I could be wrong there.
Sir.Kalin
User ID: 749570
8/16/2009 8:30 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

It turns out that the Italian and his family aboard the helicopter that was t-boned and dropped into the Hudson was a bio-weapons scientist in Italy. It was also pointed out that the Cessna was on auto-pilot at the time of the crash.
 Quoting: cygnid@gmail.com 748344


Well then, please post a link!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749992
8/16/2009 8:33 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

On a bleak island in the Aral Sea, one hundred monkeys are tethered to posts set in parallel rows stretching out toward the horizon. A muffled thud breaks the stillness. Far in the distance, a small metal sphere lifts into the sky then hurtles downward, rotating, until it shatters in a second explosion.

Some seventy-five feet above the groud, a cloud the color of dark mustard begins to unfurl, gently dissolving as it glides down toward the monkeys. They pull at their chains and begin to cry. Some bury their heads between their legs. A few cover their mouths or noses, but it is too late: they have already begun to die.

At the other end of the island, a handful of men in biological protective suits observe the scene through binoculars, taking notes. In a few hours, they will receive the still-breathing monkeys and return them to cages where the animals will be under continuous examination for the next several days until, one by one, they die of anthrax or tularemia, Q fever, brucellosis, glanders, or plague. These are the tests I supervised throughout the 1980s and early 1990s. They formed the foundation of the Soviet Union's spectacular breakthroughs in biological warfare.

Between 1988 and 1992, I was the first chief deputy of Biopreparat, the Soviet state pharmaceutical agency whose primary function was to develop and produce weapons made from the most dangerous viruses, toxins, and bacteria known to man. Biopreparat was the hub of a clandestine empire of research, testing, and manufacturing facilities spread over more than forty sites in Russia and Kazakhstan. Nearly every important government institution played a role in the Soviet biological weapons program: the Ministry of Defense, the Ministries of Agriculture and Health, the Soviet Academy of Sciences, the Communist Party Central Committee, and, of course, the KGB. The System, as Biopreparat was often called, was more successful than the Kremlin had ever dared to hope.

Over a twenty-year period that began, ironically, with Moscow's endorsement of the Biological Weapons Convention in 1972, the Soviet Union built the largest and most advanced biological warfare establishment in the world. We were among the 140 signatories of the convention, pledging "not to develop, produce, stockpile, or otherwise acquire or retain" biological agents for offensive military purposes. At the same time, through our covert program, we stockpiled hundreds of tons of anthrax and dozens of tons of plague and smallpox near Moscow and other Russian cities for use against the United States and its Western allies.

What went on in Biopreparat's labs was one of the most closely guarded secrets of the Cold War.


Before I became an expert in biological warfare I was trained as a physician. The government I served perceived no contradiction between the oath every doctor takes to preserve life and our preparations for mass murder. For a long time, neither did I.

Less than a decade ago, I was a much-decorated army colonel, marked out for further promotion in one of the Soviet Union's most elite military programs. If I had stayed in Russia, I would have been a major general by now, and you would never have heard my name. But in 1992, after seventeen years inside Biopreparat, I resigned my position and fled with my family to the United States. In numerous debriefing sessions, I provided U.S. officials with their first comprehensive picture of our activities. Most of what I told them has never been revealed in public.

With the collapse of the Soviet Union, the danger once posed by our weapons work has largely diminished. Biopreparat claims that it no longer conducts offensive research, and Russia's stockpile of germs and viruses has been destroyed. But the threat of a biological attack has increased as the knowledge developed in our labs--of lethal formulations that took our scientists years to discover--has spread to rogue regimes and terrorist groups. [ed. note--the author has no proof that the Russian threat has diminished as he claims, and the rogue regimes and terror organizations answer to Moscow.] Bioweapons are no longer contained within the bipolar world of the Cold War. They are cheap, easy to make, and easy to use. In the coming years, they will become very much a part of our lives.


Since leaving Moscow I have encountered an alarming level of ignorance about biological weapons. Some of the best scientists I've met in the West say it isn't possible to alter viruses genetically to make reliable weapons, or to store enough of a given pathogen for strategic purposes, or to deliver it in a way that assures maximum killing power. My knowledge and experience tell me that they are wrong. I have written this book to explain why.

There are some who maintain that discussing the subject will cause needless alarm. But existing defenses against these weapons are dangerously inadequate, and when biological terror strikes, as I'm convinced it will, public ignorance will only heighten the disaster. The first step we must take to protect ourselves is to understand what biological weapons are and how they work. The alternative is to remain as helpless as the monkeys in the Aral Sea.

Ken Alibek, Foreward to his 1999 book Biohazard







Now, the information I received tonight.


Joseph Moshe (Moshe is the man's middle name) is a bio-scientist. He works (worked?) for a unit within Mossad. He is an Israeli citizen.

The Secret Service was not the agency involved in the surveillance of Moshe at his home in California. This was done by the FBI, who had orders to detain him, or "bring him in."

Moshe did not send a threat to the White House. Rather, he communicated that he intended to go public with information he had regarding the flu vaccine that is being prepared by Baxter Labs, an Austrian company.

The information is this: The vaccine is being manufactured in Ukraine. It is not a vaccine at all, but rather an engineered genetically mutated bio-weapon meant to cause sickness and death. Moshe informed the White House he intended to go public with this information. When he became aware that the FBI was about to detain him, he packed some belongings in his car and set out for the Israeli consulate, located in close proximity to the federal building where the standoff took place. FBI pursuit kept him from reaching his destination.

Mounted on top of the large black vehicle was a microwave weapon which fried the electronics in Moshe's car as well as any communication devices he had which might have been used to contact the media or others who could help him.

Moshe did not suffer the same effects of the gas and pepper spray that others would have because he had built up an immunity to such weapons as a by-product of his Mossad training.

Moshe was not handcuffed because he was not placed under arrest. After leaving police or FBI custody, he returned to Israel, where he is at this time.

The information comes from one of my confidential sources. I have reason to believe it is accurate. If I receive more information I will post it.


.
 Quoting: HL Shancken

What a retarded load of shit. Have you lost your fucking mind OP?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749951
8/16/2009 8:36 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

If Moshe has had dealings with the UN he could be holding a DIPLOMATIC PASSPORT. If that is the case, he would not have been placed under arrest. I seem to remember the researcher Moshe traveling under the UN banner but I can't find the article atm.
cygnid@gmail.com
User ID: 748344
8/16/2009 8:38 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

Questions about getting started with a Peptide Synthesis project:

Dr. Fabio Gallazzi
Research Assistant Professor
Office: 302 or 313 Chemistry Building
E-mail: gallazzif@missouri.edu
Phone: 573-884-8943
[link to www.structbio.missouri.edu]

[link to www.cnn.com]
passengers were Michele Norelli, 51; Fabio Gallazzi, 49; Filippo Norelli, 16; Giacomo Gallazzi, 15; and Tiziana Pedroni, 44, all of Bologna, Italy
for the passenger list..

stinky no?
cygnid@gmail.com
User ID: 748344
8/16/2009 8:41 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

nice mainstream coverup with the "five Italian tourists" thread..hmm.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749951
8/16/2009 8:46 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

Maybe the Italians and Moshe were going to meet up and compare notes. When they failed to show Moshe freaked out?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 750032
8/16/2009 8:48 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

I still find it interesting that the OP mentioned the Ukraine, and that wayward ship is from the Ukraine.

What the hell is going on here?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 728254
8/16/2009 9:03 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

Moshe standoff in LA; Gallazi killed in freak Heli crash; Aral Sea in Russia photos in post today; and missing Ukraine ship that was carrying only timber - right...

Not mere coincidences...
cygnid@gmail.com
User ID: 748344
8/16/2009 9:04 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

[link to scholar.google.com]

Too complicated for me.. here's the search on all of the Italian tourists research when he's not out and about in a doomed helicopter.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 750041
8/16/2009 9:07 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

my brother in law-funeral this week... [link to www.guthriesportspage.com]

funeral will be held in Guthrie and in KC later...due to the hundreds expected...in both states...RIP hf

he was 31-article wrong on age and a few OTHeR things not spoken...I have insider info and you need to keep digging imho.....

Guillian Barre had a thread here a few days back didn't he???

wake up hf


I get it.


I get it too.

just watching my step so I don't
get shit on my shoe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 591484

jeezuuuuuzzzzzzz.
talk about sending a little message.
What happened to the old horses head in your bed?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 750045
8/16/2009 9:12 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

my brother in law-funeral this week... [link to www.guthriesportspage.com]

funeral will be held in Guthrie and in KC later...due to the hundreds expected...in both states...RIP hf

he was 31-article wrong on age and a few OTHeR things not spoken...I have insider info and you need to keep digging imho.....

Guillian Barre had a thread here a few days back didn't he???

wake up hf


I get it.


I get it too.

just watching my step so I don't
get shit on my shoe.

jeezuuuuuzzzzzzz.
talk about sending a little message.
What happened to the old horses head in your bed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750041



so FUCKING WHAT? whatever SD you have serious issues.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 750045
8/16/2009 9:17 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

The important thing to know is that Moshe was never placed under arrest.

Sounds like diplomatic immunity?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 728979



No. Sounds like they apprehended the wrong guy. Joseph Moshe was the person that got out of the car mid-chase. The 'standoff' was a delaying tactic for Moshe to evac. Did it ever occur to you numbskulls that if Moshe really was an operative that he might have anticipated all this BS and called in a 'double'??? like a son, or cousin, or nephew or whatever. Point is, the real guy duped all that show of force but the authorities had to seem like they got their man. duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh pick

Something BIG will break this week. Mark my fucking words.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749951
8/16/2009 9:30 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

It turns out that the Italian and his family aboard the helicopter that was t-boned and dropped into the Hudson was a bio-weapons scientist in Italy. It was also pointed out that the Cessna was on auto-pilot at the time of the crash.
 Quoting: cygnid@gmail.com 748344


There is a Fabio Gallazzi who is a virus researcher. Was he one of the helicopter/plane crash victims?

Some examples of Gallazzis work include:

strategies for vaccinating US Veterans with Hepatitis C virus infection .... Lihui Wei, Yubin Miao, Fabio Gallazzi,

induced by polyoma virus is conferred by an endogenous mouse mammary tumor virus superantigen ... Juergen Hammer, Fabio Gallazzi

Epstein-Barr virus antagonizes the antiproliferative activity of transforming growth factor- ... Yubin Miao, Nellie K. Owen, Donna Whitener, Fabio Gallazzi
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749951
8/16/2009 9:35 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

Moshe standoff in LA; Gallazi killed in freak Heli crash; Aral Sea in Russia photos in post today; and missing Ukraine ship that was carrying only timber - right...

Not mere coincidences...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 728254


And this Fabio Gallazzi has done some research for the VA(Veterans Administration) Moshe was reported to have contaced the VA but that report was not followed up as far as I know.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 750070
8/16/2009 9:57 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

[link to scholar.google.com]

Too complicated for me.. here's the search on all of the Italian tourists research when he's not out and about in a doomed helicopter.
 Quoting: cygnid@gmail.com 748344

just one random snip from his research:

Most pockets in the human leukocyte antigen–group DR (HLA-DR) groove are shaped by clusters of
polymorphic residues and, thus, have distinct chemical and size characteristics in different HLA-DR alle-
les. Each HLA-DR pocket can be characterized by “pocket profiles,” a quantitative representation of the
interaction of all natural amino acid residues with a given pocket. In this report we demonstrate that
pocket profiles are nearly independent of the remaining HLA-DR cleft. A small database of profiles was sufficient to generate a large number of HLA-DR matrices, representing the majority of human HLA-DR
peptide-binding specificity
. These virtual matrices were incorporated in software (TEPITOPE) capable of
predicting promiscuous HLA class II ligands. This software, in combination with DNA microarray technol-
ogy, has provided a new tool for the generation of comprehensive databases of candidate promiscuous T-
cell epitopes in human disease tissues. First, DNA microarrays are used to reveal genes that are specifi-
cally expressed or upregulated in disease tissues. Second, the prediction software enables the scanning
of these genes for promiscuous HLA-DR binding sites. In an example, we demonstrate that starting from
nearly 20,000 genes, a database of candidate colon cancer–specific and promiscuous T-cell epitopes could be fully populated within a matter of days. Our approach has implications for the development of epitope-based vaccines.

[link to 66.102.1.104]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 738317
8/16/2009 9:58 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

[link to www.rense.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 591484
8/16/2009 10:08 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

It turns out that the Italian and his family aboard the helicopter that was t-boned and dropped into the Hudson was a bio-weapons scientist in Italy. It was also pointed out that the Cessna was on auto-pilot at the time of the crash.
 Quoting: cygnid@gmail.com 748344


WOW

I spoke to my air traffic controller friend about this crash this afternoon... and what he said fits the above EXACTLY...

he said and I am quoting, "The fixed wing pilot ignored all urgings of the tower to change course. He did nothing that he was advised to do from the tower. What happened in the tower is being misrepresented by the media."

I didn't really think that he would know anything specifically because he works in another location and only asked because I wanted to know what he thought about the two guys that were in trouble over the crash. BUT it turned out he knows the supervisor personally.

Once again, we were not given the straight story about this...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 591484
8/16/2009 10:18 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

my brother in law-funeral this week... [link to www.guthriesportspage.com]

funeral will be held in Guthrie and in KC later...due to the hundreds expected...in both states...RIP hf

he was 31-article wrong on age and a few OTHeR things not spoken...I have insider info and you need to keep digging imho.....

Guillian Barre had a thread here a few days back didn't he???

wake up hf


I get it.


I get it too.

just watching my step so I don't
get shit on my shoe.

jeezuuuuuzzzzzzz.
talk about sending a little message.
What happened to the old horses head in your bed?



so FUCKING WHAT? whatever SD you have serious issues.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750045


allow me to decode for you; SD is saying that reports can be off by a few details but the fact of the matter doesn't change because a few of the incidental details are incorrect. The guy was 31 not 30, but it doesn't mean he didn't die.

got it now?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749951
8/16/2009 10:29 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

[link to ilrestodelcarlino.ilsole24ore.com]

Tiziana Pedroni was the wife of Fabio Galluzzi. So it was Fabio, his wife and child all dead in the crash.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 750093
8/16/2009 10:32 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

Vaccine will not cause sickness and death, but rather STERILIZATION of the general public. See on whom they have focused the shot: young people.

Also, nanotechnology allows the insertion of a [tracking] microchip through vaccination.


Trust Jesus Christ alone. There is no other answer in these perilous days.

And time is extremely short.


Will jesus remove the nano particles from my bloodstream?


With God, all things are possible. Good idea, however, not to take the shot.

And the vaccine will not contain the mark of the beast, only dangerous chipping technology. Forced marking is not allowed by God to begin until after the Holy Spirit is removed from earth - and stout-hearted Christians go with Him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 746464



--DO some research sheeply all Christians will suffer the whole tribulation there WILL BE NO PRE-TRIB RAPTURE.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749951
8/16/2009 10:40 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

This Pedroni family seems very well connected, imo. This family may be a 'Family' if you know what I mean. If so, we haven't seen the end of this story, imo.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749951
8/16/2009 10:50 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

The news reports said Bologna Italy, but this goes back to Molena in Northern Italy, right up there close to Switzerland and Austria.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749951
8/16/2009 11:06 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

According to this article, Baxter makes its flu vaccine(Celvapan A(H1N1) ) in the Czech Republic with further formulation then done in Austria. I did a brief search on Google and could find no Baxter/Ukraine connection. Does anyone know of one?
...........
Baxter announced last week that it completed production of its first commercial batches of its Celvapan A(H1N1) pandemic influenza vaccine in late July and is discussing plans for distribution with national health authorities, subject to obtaining appropriate authorizations.

Baxter initiated commercial production on June 3, 2009. Bulk CELVAPAN vaccine is produced at its large-scale commercial facility in Bohumil, Czech Republic, and is sent to Vienna, Austria for the final formulation, fill and finish before distribution.
[link to pharmtech.findpharma.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749379
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 431215
8/16/2009 11:10 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

The important thing to know is that Moshe was never placed under arrest.

Sounds like diplomatic immunity?



No. Sounds like they apprehended the wrong guy. Joseph Moshe was the person that got out of the car mid-chase. The 'standoff' was a delaying tactic for Moshe to evac. Did it ever occur to you numbskulls that if Moshe really was an operative that he might have anticipated all this BS and called in a 'double'??? like a son, or cousin, or nephew or whatever. Point is, the real guy duped all that show of force but the authorities had to seem like they got their man. duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh pick

Something BIG will break this week. Mark my fucking words.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750045


There was a post a couple of pages back that suggested that maybe the man that was apprehended was an agent made up to like like Moshe and that the real Mosh was the one that got out of the car earlier. The agent may have identified himself when apprehended and that is why SS, FBI and PD handling him with kid gloves from then on.

Someone like Mossad may have been protecting him and helping him to get to the Embassy.

It would sure explain better how someone could withstand all those hits with gas, etc. Agents are trained for such.
mr...bojangles
User ID: 749810
8/16/2009 11:15 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

The important thing to know is that Moshe was never placed under arrest.

Sounds like diplomatic immunity?



No. Sounds like they apprehended the wrong guy. Joseph Moshe was the person that got out of the car mid-chase. The 'standoff' was a delaying tactic for Moshe to evac. Did it ever occur to you numbskulls that if Moshe really was an operative that he might have anticipated all this BS and called in a 'double'??? like a son, or cousin, or nephew or whatever. Point is, the real guy duped all that show of force but the authorities had to seem like they got their man. duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh pick

Something BIG will break this week. Mark my fucking words.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750045


if you wrote screenplays for hollywood....

you`d be an overnight hit....

that was amazing!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 591484
8/16/2009 11:17 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

from an AC on page 14 of original thread:


I just heard on the scanner, that he has a hostage tied up in the back. They said it was a Michael Vale, no further details.
 Quoting: CRYSTAL in MATRIX


Whoa... hold on here... anyone else following the South Carolina female lawyer thread???

Anyone familiar with the strange and odd Dunkin Donuts connections that have been plaguing the SC scene of late?

Michael Vale. I believe this is code.

Michael Vale died Dec. 24, 2005. He was an American commercial actor famous for being the longtime sleepy-eyed mascot "Fred the Baker" for doughnut chain Dunkin' Donuts, with his famous catchphrase "Time to make the doughnuts."

Dunkin Doughnuts is owned by the Carlye Group.

the crazier it gets, the more it makes sense.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 591484
8/16/2009 11:24 PM
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However Novartis may have a production facility in the Ukraine in Kiev or there abouts. Anyone good at translating? If so [link to www.syngenta.com.ua]


Baxter has a facility in Ukraine. It is called Novartis Ukraine and it's on their site:

[link to www.baxterbiotherapeutics.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749340


Baxter Ukraine

29 Beresnyakovskaya st
02098 Kiev
Phone: +38 044 4962410
th€bbo
User ID: 742579
8/16/2009 11:26 PM
Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About VaccineQuote

Well that is just wonderful. So really it wouldn't be mandatory vaccination, it would be mandatory suicide.

 Quoting: 1-2-THE DOME


Goofy Thum dubya 5
We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.

-

The Definition of Our Future:


Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.

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The Number One Enemy of Progress is Question.
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