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LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749711
8/16/2009 10:55 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
I'm still trying to find out things about Joseph Moshe.
Check out this photo of Joseph Moshe in his car (zoom in to 400%).
[ link to www.latimes.com]
And now, compare that to the picture included on page 5 of a slide presentation entitled "Teaching Arab Homemakers to
Keep Food Safe" at the following USDA website:
[ link to www.fsis.usda.gov]
Notice on page 2 Dr. Joseph Moshe is affiliated with ACCESS (Arab Community Center for Social Services).
????? Could these be the same person ?????
They sure appear to be to me! Check out his hair and facial features. Notice in particular the dark spot in the center of his mustache.
What might all this mean if these are pictures of the same man? Beats the heck out of me!
It sure does appear to be the same person.
Good one, Prussian Blue !!
I found that last night and was trying to determine the same thing, but I think it's different. The guy in the ACCESS pics has graying hair. Moshe has black hair. Unless he's now dying. Also, face looked different to me. |
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Ornithocrat
User ID: 729983
8/16/2009 10:57 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
According to Sorcha Faal his name is Joseph Moshe Bar. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749692
That wouldn't make sense as a name--it's like saying that the name of the hamburger clown is Ronald Donald Mc.
The Hebrew naming pattern is 'firstname bar/bat-ancestralfirstname'. "Bar" means "son of" and "bat" means "daughter of." So Moshe Bar-Joseph is "Moshe, son of Joseph." Joseph Moshe, which doesn't sound like it goes according to Hebrew naming conventions but is more likely to be based on English naming conventions, would be "Joseph (of) Moshe."
I serve the Ornithocracy. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749711
8/16/2009 11:00 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
I'm wondering if he could be Dr. Joseph Moshe Blank at UCLA-Olive View:
[link to www.uclaoliveview.org] |
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Xenus_nli
User ID: 749729
8/16/2009 11:00 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
BINGO, it comes from sorcha
I assure you that it doesn't. If anything, you have it exactly backwards. Quoting: HL Shancken
If people can't see that Sorcha Fall blatantly used the information from these forums for her own gains, what are you doing here? Seriously, OP posted first, she trawls these forums and then uses what she finds for her own selfish gains. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749711
8/16/2009 11:02 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
BINGO, it comes from sorcha
I assure you that it doesn't. If anything, you have it exactly backwards.
If people can't see that Sorcha Fall blatantly used the information from these forums for her own gains, what are you doing here? Seriously, OP posted first, she trawls these forums and then uses what she finds for her own selfish gains. Quoting: Xenus_nli 749729
Sorcha Faal = Sucha Fail. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749514
8/16/2009 11:03 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Mounted on top of the large black vehicle was a microwave weapon which fried the electronics in Moshe's car as well as any communication devices he had which might have been used to contact the media or others who could help him.
If this were so, then how was he able to lower and raise his two driver side windows twice during the gassing?
Power windows are probably not controlled via micro-processors. The engine's fuel & ignition system on a newer car certainly is! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749276
8/16/2009 11:05 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Perhaps certain groups, let's say.. caucausions will be given a sterilization vaccine and people of color will be given the death cocktail.My question though still remains as to why this is being done NOW. Do TPTB fear that help is on the way for certain groups. No one has really answered why this is being done RIGHT NOW. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749724
8/16/2009 11:08 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Moshe withstood the tear gas and the pepper spray. But the tazer? Most people are stunned and can hardly walk after that. But Moshe got out of the Beetle and walked like he was the Terminator, as Trin put it. What is he, Superman?
The guy is invincible!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 633080
8/16/2009 11:09 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Mounted on top of the large black vehicle was a microwave weapon which fried the electronics in Moshe's car as well as any communication devices he had which might have been used to contact the media or others who could help him.
If this were so, then how was he able to lower and raise his two driver side windows twice during the gassing?
Power windows are probably not controlled via micro-processors. The engine's fuel & ignition system on a newer car certainly is!
The most common power window mechanism is pretty basic. There's a simple regulator mechanism, usually similar to the mechanism used on garden-variety hand-cranked windows. It comes in several varieties--rack, sector and cable drive. Troubleshooting is pretty straightforward, once you get the door panels off--but your problem may be terribly simple and may not require removing any trim at all.
[link to www.popularmechanics.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 591484
8/16/2009 11:13 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Look at these pics.
In the first pic, Moshe looks cool as a cucumber with tear gas in his car, SWAT teams aiming at him and his window mostly down.
Some of these pics are rather dramatic such as him getting sprayed directly in the face, apparently with pepper spray.
WTF? This guy is either completely NUTS, on DRUGS, or very well TRAINED!
[ link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
Those of you assisting with IDing the guy in the red bug, please see this link above and the PHOTO of the guy sitting in the car... you can see his face from the nose up.
His hair is more dark than gray, he is only bald on the top of his head. and yes, he does look as if he could be jewish.
IF the last name is really his middle name, Moshe, then his age could be incorrect as well.
DOES ANYONE know how to find property owner name via an address in CA? The property tax records do not list an owners name. Other than property tax records is there a way to find that information online? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749724
8/16/2009 11:14 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Somebody on the original thread gave the year of make on the Beetle. It is an older model, and would have roll-down windows.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749514
8/16/2009 11:14 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Moshe withstood the tear gas and the pepper spray. But the tazer? Most people are stunned and can hardly walk after that. But Moshe got out of the Beetle and walked like he was the Terminator, as Trin put it. What is he, Superman?
The guy is invincible!
. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749724
No 'gas' in the tear gas cannisters.
No batteries in the Tazer.
No 'pepper' in the pepper spray.
Why?? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749276
8/16/2009 11:16 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
really a non issue- afraid like a little girl of getting a shot? don't take it-no big deal Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749621
you really don't have a clue, do you? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 591484
8/16/2009 11:17 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749711
Was there a picture of his Dr. Joesph Moshe Blank at this link???
if so, it is not there now. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749514
8/16/2009 11:17 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
The most common power window mechanism is pretty basic. There's a simple regulator mechanism, usually similar to the mechanism used on garden-variety hand-cranked windows. It comes in several varieties--rack, sector and cable drive. Troubleshooting is pretty straightforward, once you get the door panels off--but your problem may be terribly simple and may not require removing any trim at all.
[ link to www.popularmechanics.com]
The 'microwave beam' (if the cops had one) would fry microprocessors, not power window motors. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749711
8/16/2009 11:18 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
The news reported he was from Westminster, CA.
Notice the proximity to the Naval Weapons Station and the Joint Forces Training Center to the left of Westminster:
[link to www.mapquest.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749685
8/16/2009 11:18 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Moshe withstood the tear gas and the pepper spray. But the tazer? Most people are stunned and can hardly walk after that. But Moshe got out of the Beetle and walked like he was the Terminator, as Trin put it. What is he, Superman?
The guy is invincible!
. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749724
Now that smacks of the mystery man in Dallas thread.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749711
8/16/2009 11:18 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
I'm wondering if he could be Dr. Joseph Moshe Blank at UCLA-Olive View:
[ link to www.uclaoliveview.org]
Was there a picture of his Dr. Joesph Moshe Blank at this link???
if so, it is not there now.
No, just his name listed under internal medicine MDs. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 746238
8/16/2009 11:19 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Somebody on the original thread gave the year of make on the Beetle. It is an older model, and would have roll-down windows.
. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749724
My daughter has a 2001 beetle, and the windows are automatic. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749711
8/16/2009 11:19 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Moshe withstood the tear gas and the pepper spray. But the tazer? Most people are stunned and can hardly walk after that. But Moshe got out of the Beetle and walked like he was the Terminator, as Trin put it. What is he, Superman?
The guy is invincible!
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Now that smacks of the mystery man in Dallas thread.
/ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749685
Sounds like a Super Solider went awry.
The blank look on his face is what most mind-controlled killers have. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 591484
8/16/2009 11:21 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Somebody on the original thread gave the year of make on the Beetle. It is an older model, and would have roll-down windows.
. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749724
ALL model years can come with hand crank windows.
I know someone with one and it is newer, but a base model and the windows are not power windows. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749685
8/16/2009 11:21 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Moshe withstood the tear gas and the pepper spray. But the tazer? Most people are stunned and can hardly walk after that. But Moshe got out of the Beetle and walked like he was the Terminator, as Trin put it. What is he, Superman?
The guy is invincible!
.
Now that smacks of the mystery man in Dallas thread.
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Sounds like a Super Solider went awry.
The blank look on his face is what most mind-controlled killers have. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749711
Yep. Agreed. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 591484
8/16/2009 11:22 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
I'm wondering if he could be Dr. Joseph Moshe Blank at UCLA-Olive View:
[ link to www.uclaoliveview.org]
Was there a picture of his Dr. Joesph Moshe Blank at this link???
if so, it is not there now.
No, just his name listed under internal medicine MDs.
thanks for clarifying. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 633080
8/16/2009 11:24 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
The most common power window mechanism is pretty basic. There's a simple regulator mechanism, usually similar to the mechanism used on garden-variety hand-cranked windows. It comes in several varieties--rack, sector and cable drive. Troubleshooting is pretty straightforward, once you get the door panels off--but your problem may be terribly simple and may not require removing any trim at all.
[ link to www.popularmechanics.com]
The 'microwave beam' (if the cops had one) would fry microprocessors, not power window motors.
Yes i am agreeing hence the link :-) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 591484
8/16/2009 11:25 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Moshe withstood the tear gas and the pepper spray. But the tazer? Most people are stunned and can hardly walk after that. But Moshe got out of the Beetle and walked like he was the Terminator, as Trin put it. What is he, Superman?
The guy is invincible!
.
Now that smacks of the mystery man in Dallas thread.
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Sounds like a Super Solider went awry.
The blank look on his face is what most mind-controlled killers have.
Yep. Agreed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749685
I would think anyone in the Mossad would be well trained to withstand all manner of attacks. This doesn't mean he is a trained killer. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 591484
8/16/2009 11:38 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Okay guys, if the guys last name isn't Moshe his elderly parents are also going by his middle name. I am smelling BS from the OP.
Albert A Moshe age 94
1. 8311 Creighton Ave
2. Los Angeles, CA
3.
4. Household: Joe Moshe, Julia ...
Joe Moshe
1. 8311 Creighton Ave
2. Los Angeles, CA
3. 55-59
4. Household: Julia Moshe, Albert...
Julia Moshe
1. 8311 Creighton Ave
2. Los Angeles, CA
3.
4. Household: Joe Moshe, Albert ...
No cell phone or text messaging available for this listing No email available for this listing You can contact this person by phone |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 738304
8/16/2009 11:41 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Moshe withstood the tear gas and the pepper spray. But the tazer? Most people are stunned and can hardly walk after that. But Moshe got out of the Beetle and walked like he was the Terminator, as Trin put it. What is he, Superman?
The guy is invincible!
. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749724
very strange. even if you were drugged, out of your mind, hypnotized, when the blast of water, even if it was just water, would make a dead man lean/fall over. or in the least turn your head away.. this is a leap, but could it have been a holagram? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749717
8/16/2009 11:45 AM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
Moshe withstood the tear gas and the pepper spray. But the tazer? Most people are stunned and can hardly walk after that. But Moshe got out of the Beetle and walked like he was the Terminator, as Trin put it. What is he, Superman?
The guy is invincible!
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Now that smacks of the mystery man in Dallas thread.
/ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 749685
Yes it certainly does...hmmm
As for the getting tasered part...
Could he have seen the tasing coming and quickly thought or had it preplanned to ground himself. ?
Is that possible...? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 748834
8/16/2009 12:04 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
so.. after reading 7 pages, there's really no new verifiable info that wasn't already found out and posted in the original thread the night of.. why do people in this thread keep posting stuff already discussed in the original thread as 'new info they just found'?
the story from the op is a good theory for sure, it's clearly obvious this wasn't some run of the mill 'crazy guy' like the media says.. too bad most of the theory can't be proven.. yet at least. |
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S.I.A.
User ID: 741073
8/16/2009 12:09 PM | | Re: LA Standoff Explained--Moshe Was Going Public About Vaccine | Quote |
This whole vaccine business is making me nervous. I don't know who to believe.
They are going to start giving vaccines in our schools here where I live. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 736267
Do NOT take the Vaccine. |
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