The Distance of The Moon is DE-BUNKED -->> NASA never traveled 234,498.6mi in Apollo 11. (filmed in studio)

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You sir, Are a dumbass. You were proven wrong once, the moon doesn't touch the earth so therefore it's orbit is far greater than the circumference of the earth so therefore it has to travel faster the further away it is from the point of view... Why not calculate it from sea level compared to the highest mountain.. You know you will actually get a different result for its speed because your not calculating it in terms of THE MOONS point of view.. So I say YOur a dumbass.. Get job in ... actually don't get a job you'll just screw that up anyway

Nobody is talking here about re-calculating the distance from the earth to the Moon;

nor about the SIZE of the Moon.

Anybody want to take it on?

we ought to send you to the moon and leave you there

Why the fuck not.

Distance from center to center (moon to earth) 384,403 km

It takes 29.5 days to orbit the earth

384403/29.5 = 13030 / 60 = 217 KMPH. X 0.625 = 135 mph.

The calculation contains the accepted distance and speed of The Moon science ascertains to be true. The calculation are in relation to explain why an observer standing on earth see's the moon travel at 37.93 mph when science says its 234,498.6mi away and racing through the cosmos at 2287 mph.


That's why the radius of The Earth was used.


Stop crying, and say good-bye to the Pinocchio science you were taught. The time has come for you to put away childish things, and meet your destiny. GOD is your destiny.

We're going home.

lol.

The distance to the moon is being calculated by shining light to a reflective mirror on the Moons surface, put there by astronauts.

/thread.

The Earth is rotating counter-clockwise on its axis at the rate of 1035.55 mph, the observer is watching The Moon traveling also counter-clockwise at 997.62 mph and being surpassed by earth's axis speed by 37.93 mph, and therewith, the observer sees the moon moving from east to west.

But that's just the fairytale science tried to pull on us, we saw right through them!

The distance was measured by a giant ball of string from Florida to Tranquility Base. It took Neil Armstrong a few minutes to pull a mile of slack out of it though.

Just for the record.



Correct. While doing so, of course, the earth has rotated 27.3 times. So the majority of the Moon's movement through the skies comes from the Earth's rotation about its axis.

The Earth rotates anticlockwise (looking down from North Pole), and the Moon revolves around the Earth anti-clockwise also.



Firstly, the circumference figure is roughly correct, but it varies from equator to pole, and it is meaningless and childishly ill-informed to apply that level of accuracy.

I presume the (~) symbol is an attempt to symbolise division? That is completely incorrect usage. In mathematics, the tilde means 'similar to' or 'equivalent'.

Division is represented by a slash or the divisor symbol.

As for the equation, it makes no sense whatsoever. It appears that the poster is trying to calculate the speed of the Moon if it were traveling linearly over the Earth's surface. However:

- the Moon is NOT traveling linearly over the earth's surface, it is revolving around the earth

- the Earth is spinning beneath it at the same time, and he has left out that motion.

Just because the Moon appears in the same position in the sky after 27.3 days, does not mean that the Earth hasn't been spinning beneath the Moon during that time. It is difficult to comprehend the sort of mindset that doesn't realise that there is a rotation involved, and leaves it completely out of what is a flawed calcualtion anyway.

This 'calculation' therefore arrives at a nonsense figure. Garbage In, Garbage Out.

Anyone familiar with orbital mechanics will realise that linear speeds are not particularly relevant, and great care has to be used in trying to calculate anything meaningful from them, as witnessed by this person's huge error.

In order to derive meaningful comment about the shadow that the Moon would make as it passes in front of the sun, the correct calculation would primarily involve:
- the rotational speed ('angular velocity' in degrees per hour) of the Earth about its axis
- the rotational speed (again, in degrees per hour) of the Moon around the Earth

The units are important. If you tried to perform these calculations using linear units like miles per hour, you could only come up with a figure that would be valid at a particular latitude, eg at the equator, and more importantly, you MUST take into account the relative distances.

This is easy to prove. Move your finger across the entire Sun's surface, so it eclipses it. How quickly was your finger moving? Now, if your finger was at the same distance as the Sun (owch that burns..), HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO TRAVERSE THE SUN'S DIAMETER??

Where was the distance factored into the equation above?
Where was the earth's rotation factored in?

As I stated above, it seems incredible that someone pretending to have some knowledge in this area would make so many fundamental errors in his attempt to prove a 'point' - and the point is moot anyway as the true situation is easily verifiable simply be observing reality.

The Moon does rise later each evening by (on average) 48 minutes.

The Moon does move more slowly through the sky than does the Sun, for an observer standing on the Earth. (Moon - 14.5°/hr, Sun - 15°/hr, approx) This is of course, a direct result of that lunar rotation referred to earlier - because the Moon is revolving in the same direction as the Earth turns, it appears to be moving more slowly than the Sun and the stars.

As the Sun appears to be moving from East to West to an earthbound observer, and the Moon is moving slightly slower, then as the Sun goes past the Moon during an eclipse, of course the shadow MUST go from West to East, just as it is observed to do.


Again, it seems our poster does not understand these relatively simple concepts, and has left out some vital calculations. S/he needs to get out a basketball, a tennis ball, and a golf ball, and try to visualise the situation.

It is rather sad than s/he cannot grasp these concepts, but geometry and maths and logic are not for everyone I guess.

It would take just a few days into an astronomy course for the poster to be shaken to their senses, or ejected from the course.

Hmm. Perhaps that is why s/he is so angry? Rejection by mainstream science...

.. for blithering stupidity.

Please note, rather than spreading this person's insanity over multiple threads, may I suggest you return to the original thread here:
Thread: MAJOR FAWK-UP BY NASA -- CONSPIRACY WRITTEN ALL OVER -- "EXTRA-EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT!" (Page 12)
..if you wish to make a constructive comment on any of the above.

Very good, very good Teacher!

You forgot to mention in which direction.

The Earth rotates counter-clockwise once everyday on its axis at the rate of 1035.55 mph. For an observer, the observer is watching The Moon traveling also counter-clockwise at 997.62 mph and being surpassed by earth's axis speed by 37.93 mph, and therewith, the observer sees the moon moving from east to west.


Childish and ill-informed?

Because the numbers are precise?

What kind of an idiot are you?


I prefer it my way, since I'm the one doing all of yous the schooling.


The Speed can apply to any trajectory being straight or bent.


WRONG,

I mentioned the error (The earth axis spin-speed 1035.55 mph) Modern science included in their fairytale of Earth physics.


SHOW THE MATH -- "IF YOU CAN!"




HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA!!!!!!!!!!!

So what are we doing here? Adding, multiplying, subtracting, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, dividing (/) ha,ha,ha,ha, what's THE MATH?


Easy to prove? By moving a finger you're gonna measure The Cosmos?

Your exactly like your forefather who measured The Earth with a stick sitting in the middle of a circle in a ditch facing North -- HA,HA,HA,HA,HA!!!!


orbital moon speed -> 2287 mph * (2*pi*radius 3955mi) divide by (~): (2*pi*r 3955mi + distance 234,498.6mi) = 37.93 mph


"The Moon couldn't possibly revolve 37.93 mph faster then the Earth's axis speed of 1035.55 mph (1035.55 + 37.93 = 1073.48 mph) only slower by the same rate, thereby, true speed of The Moon will actually be traveling at the rate of Earth's axis speed 1035.55 mph (minus) 37.93 mph = 997.62 mph seen by an Observer standing on The Surface of The Earth, only this throws the crisco calculations of The Moon Distance in the garbage. The Greek calculations of Moon distance apply to an Earth that doesn't rotate on its axis."

Thread: MAJOR FAWK-UP BY NASA -- CONSPIRACY WRITTEN ALL OVER -- "EXTRA-EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT!" (Page 13)

Punisher, stop posting multiple threads.

DISPUTE IT!!

WHERE'S YOUR MATH? -- SHOW THE MATH -- "IF YOU CAN!"




I HAVE YOUR MATH, ANF I BURIED YOUR SCIENCE WITH IT!

...You OP seem to think your more Intelligent than
NASA scientist...



NASA isn't on Mars either...Why,Because you say so???

When I look at the moon it's hardly moving. What's with that?

So I assume that you find it mature and well informed to state that ALL the muslims are terrorists?

Same thing about assuming that the circumference is the same from equator to pole.





Well, your communication skills fail. If you want to get a message through, you have to talk a language people understand. And since EVERYONE on earth (but you, being stupid and haven't passed your 8th grade) use a slash and not a tilde (~), you should do so if you want them to understand the shit you talk.






And I'm too lazy and you just don't deserve anymore time from me, because your intentions are just wrong.

Fucking HYPOCRITE.

Where did this come from, ha,ha,ha,ha, how hot are pop-tarts when they come out of a toaster?!


The fact that you understand that it means to divide is FAIL on your behalf, and your other half just plain ROT.


I laughed' out loud!

Yes, we did. We showed you SEVERAL ways you can calculate it yourself, using tools no more sophisticated than sticks, string, and china markers.