~The Woman Clothed in the Sun~

Yes your right Lotus an AC - I have no right - this is Angelseverywhere's thread.

Carry on , and I'll blow myself away .

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the woman signifies new jerusalem
you do not put new wine in old wineskins

Dances you have a perfect right, I was not addressing you in that post.

Lotus

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Love the pic Feru!!!

Oh yes...the bloodline...I can't say I agree with your interpretation but it is definitely a real possibility.

Then again, this could be an actual woman...with the royal bloodline...who knows...I don't at this point...lol

Thank you AC for sharing!

Beautiful!

hmmm...you never know...thank you AC!

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That is a beautiful pic Dances...reminds me of a pic I have seen on one of Phoenix2012's threads.

As for this thread...I want to say that I am still reading everything everyone has been posting.

However, I think that it is time just to let the thread go on its own right now for a little bit....I will be leaving for FL in 2 days and I have much to do to get ready for that.

I want to thank everyone who has posted and who will continue to post. I hope we still continue to explore this subject. I don't know if we all can agree on "who" this woman is exactly whether it be the church or an actual woman but we are having a fun discussion trying to find out don't you think? lol

Peace, Love and Light to everyone and many blessings! I will check back in next week.

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Taking into account bible typology ....the interpretation of the "woman" as "elect Israel" has always been the correct one. Revelation IS a book in the Bible. <grin>


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^^^ constellation depiction ^ ^ ^

"....As you can see in the illustration Hydra and Corvus is Draco the dragon and Virgo is the woman.

This is the constellation in the stars showing the Dragon just about to devour the woman giving birth to her Baby Jesus.

The woman represents Israel and the moon represents the Messiah.

Revelations 12: the Woman (Virgo) with the moon (Messiah) at her feet, and Hydra (the snake) or Draco (the dragon) waiting to devour the Moon, as the sun sets (clothed in the sun)..

This constellation was just on August 22nd 2009 just last night!!!

This is a warning for Israel to take cover......"

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Lotus

does that look like you lotus?

Little inside info for yall. If you actually believe me or not I don't care. The sun and the circular crown of twelve stars is an example of double symbolism. First it refers to sun in the constellation Ophuicus having to do with 2012 and all. This passage is refering to an actual person/ demigod. This person is the analog of padma from the kalki purana. Clothed with the sun also refers to her time of birth which would have to be when the sun is in the lady libra. The crown of 12 stars and moon at her feet refer to her archetype. This archetype is represented by the high preistess and empress tarot cards. On is depited by a woman wearing a crown of twelve stars and the other is depicted by a woman with the moon at her feet. Her archetype is identical with the personality of the arch angel gabriel and more particulary with her ancient Egyptian counterpart which was worshiped as a star located in the Draco constellation. The dragon has to do with the constellation Draco. As mentioned before this passage deals with 2012 and the movement into the Age of Aquarius. As you might know the earth has a 26k year woble that make the constellations seem to revolve in a circle. The position of the pole star "moves" and makes a circle around the constellation Draco. This 26k year woble has to do with the Earth passing back and forth through the galactic plane which happens every 13k years. This causes a polar shift every 13k years. ~10500 BC was the last time we had a polar shift which caused the great flood and shortly after 2012 there are many prophets and also scientists who say we are due for a new pole shift/ flood. This has to do with the dragon pouring water from its mouth to sweep the woman away with the flood.

it's begins in light
as a reflection of all
faceted in billions of
fractals each as it's
own universe.

you.

the light is here to show you
as an open invitation
of love.

be.

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Who is the Woman of Revelation 12 and the Man Child? This is how I came to my conclusions? I asked the Spirit of God to show me Old Testament Foundation Scriptures and Prophecies of the Event called the, "Rapture?" Also, I asked Him to show me some Scriptures in the Book of Revelation that would confirm these Old Testament Prophecies and give me a "Word Picture," of this Event called the Rapture that I was studying. Out of this study I discovered who I perceive the Woman and Man Child to be.


From my studies, and Comparing Scriptures with other Scriptures, First of all, I perceive the Woman is Israel because Yahweh Married her(Israel) in the Old Testament? After reading and studying I discovered these Scriptures In Isaiah 26 which I believe are Related to the Woman and Man Child of Revelation 12? In Isaiah 26:17 He teaches Us, "Like as a woman with child, draws near to the time of her delivery, is in pain, and cries out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD." (Is the Woman Israel? Yes, many others confirm this!)

Isaiah 26:18 We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought ANY deliverance in the Earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.

Isaiah 26:19 Your Dead men Shall ARISE! Awake and sing, you that DWELL in the DUST, the Earth SHALL CAST OUT The DEAD. Rapture?

Isaiah 26:20 COME, MY PEOPLE, enter into your chambers.... until the TRIBULATION be OVERPAST. COME (H498) The Hebrew word means to depart or go away? Refers to Rapture because of Isaiah 26:19 and 20?

Isaiah 26:21 For, behold, the LORD comes out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the Earth for their iniquity: This verse relates to the Second Advent in Revelation 19?

I do Not perceive the Woman being Mary or the Man Child being the Birth of Christ. However, I do believe this Vision reveals, that through Israel, Yahweh brought forth (12:5a) the Body of Christ, which is the Church, (Ephesians 5; Galatians 3:27-29) which has been being created and formed over the past 2000 years (Lunar Years) and Also Includes The Christ or Messiah who is the Head of His Body?

I believe this Man Child is the Universal Church, including those who have died In Christ and those who are alive now. I will continue to prove this in the following paragraphs. I perceive the Dragon *(Satan) has been trying to destroy the Man Child before it is completely Mature and Grown? *(Study the History of the Church?) Also, the Vision appears to reveal, this Growth is still causing Israel travail until this Child has grown to Maturity?


This Man Child is described in 1 Corinthians 12; Ephesians 4; Ephesians 5;Galatians 3:27-29; whose Head is Christ with many Members, Parts or Denominations?

1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

Galatians 3:27-29 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Recently, I have discovered some additional concepts and revelations about how the Man Child of Revelation 12 and the Overcomers of Revelation 2:25-27 are Related and may be the Body of Christ! Also, Comparing Scriptures with Scriptures I believe I have made some important connections between my Foundation Scriptures for the Rapture in Isaiah 26:17-21 and Revelation 12!

Also, Revelation 12:5 & Revelation 2:26-27 Reveal and Define How the Man Child and the Overcomers Are Related, thru the Words Nations, Rule, Rod of Iron, Man Child & Overcomers? Also, in Revelation 12:3 there are No Crowns on the 10 Horns? In Revelation 13:1 Crowns are on the Horns? Something Very Important happens in Revelation 12?

After reading several Chapters, in Revelation, I came to Chapter 12 and as I read Revelation 12:5 "And she brought forth a Man Child, who was to rule all Nations with a rod of iron: and her child was "Caught Up," unto God, and to His throne," I remembered I had read something about a Promise to the Over comers in Revelation 2:26-27 "And he that Overcomes and Does my Works unto the End, to him will I give Power over the Nations: And he shall Rule them with a Rod of Iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: EVEN as I Received of My Father." This is when I perceived this "Man Child, "could be the Body of Christ?

Additionally, I decided to look up some definitions of Greek words. I perceive the Catching Away of the Body of Christ in Revelation 12:5, because of the definitions of the Greek words! The word "Child," means a SON, used to Describe those who are Born Again (Luke 20:36), of angels, of those whom God esteems as sons, those who revere God as their Father and Sons and Daughters who Resemble God in Life and Character! All of these concepts relate to Members of the Body of Christ? These verses prove this "Man Child" could be the Body of Christ and will be "Caught Up," To God's Throne, Before the Remnant of Israel is Protected, for 42 Months? The Overcomers are the Man Child and the Members of the Body of Christ?

Therefore, One place I can perceive some type of "Catching Away, of the Body of Christ happening is in Revelation 12:1-12 because Revelation 12:5 & Revelation 2:26-27 Reveal and Define How the Man Child and the Overcomers Are Related, thru the Words Nations, Rule, Rod of Iron, Man Child & Overcomers? Also, in Revelation 12:3 there are No Crowns on the 10 Horns? In Revelation 13:1 Crowns are on the Horns? Something Very Important happens in Revelation 12?



Thus, The Woman and Manchild are Metaphors for the Nation of Israel and the Body of Christ? Jesus Promised Us the Spirit of Truth would Guide Us into ALL Truth? One of my Teachers taught Us that Yahweh has, "No Idle," Words in the Scriptures. He has hidden the answers to All that pertains to Life and Godliness and I have discovered that when I ask Him questions about the Topics I am studying He is Faithful to Guide me into the Truth of the Subjects! These are not absolute revelations. I always practice submitting my revelations from Scripture and Word Studies to my Pastor, other Elders in the Body of Christ and my close Brothers and Sisters. ;-)

Thank You! For Mediating on this Research.

We Are Very, Very Blessed!

Abba Father and Precious Jesus Not Only Love You, But, They Are, "In Love, With You!" Very Much!" My Pastor Heard This on a Prayer Walk One Day While Praying ***And I Really Care About You and Love You Too! ;-)

GrandDaddy Really Loves You!


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In Contrast, In my studies, I have noticed that some specifically teach because the Woman is Israel the Man Child is Hebrew and must be the 144,000 Servants of God of Revelation 7 and 14, and, Cannot be the Members of the Body of Christ, because it is made up of Mainly Gentiles?

However, as soon as I read that statement the Words came to my mind, Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are All ONE in Christ Jesus."


Also, some teach this Prophecy is related to the Man Child of Revelation 12 and the 144,000;

Isaiah 66:7 "BEFORE she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a Man Child;"


However, this Prophecy in Isaiah teaches that BEFORE Zion Travailed, she brought forth Children? The Man Child in Revelation 12 comes AFTER Travail and Much Pain? Revelation 12:2 "And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

Several do teach the Prophecy of Isaiah 66 relates to the Birth of Israel as a Nation on November 29, 1947 when the commandment went forth, or May 14, 1948 when Israel declared itself a Nation?


Isaiah 66:8-9 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children. Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.

Hmmmm…… I just noticed that these Scriptures, in Isaiah 66:7-9, teach that the Woman is named ZION? Who is….?
The City of Jerusalem and by extension, the Biblical Land of Israel, named after the Sons of Israel, whose father is Jacob?

Zion (Hebrew: transliterated Zion or Sion) is a term that most often refers to Jerusalem and by extension, the Biblical land of Israel. The word is found in texts dating back almost three millennia. It commonly referred to a specific mountain near Jerusalem (Mount Zion), on which stood a Jebusite fortress of the same name that was conquered by David and was named the City of David.

Hallelujah! Praise Yahweh! I Love it when I discover something I never perceived before and that Confirms my Initial perceptions of an interpretation of Scriptures!


Therefore, please mediate on these revelations and see what the Spirit of Yahweh reveals to you? ;-)

Thank You! For Mediating on this Research.

We Are Very, Very Blessed!


Saved or Delivered Means to be:
Rescued from the Penalty of All my sins!
Forgiven of All my sins!
Cleansed from All my sins!
By the Precious Blood of Jesus!
Made Completely Whole!
By the Power of the Comforter who is the Holy Spirit!
Promised the Gift of Eternal Life!
And Promised a Home in Heaven!


GrandDaddy Really Loves You!


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a "woman" in the bible is a church

the dragon is satan

these verses speak about the reformation

the protestants left the catholic church and where sought out by satan so that they might be destroyed

Datz just me inda KJV.

Thank you for you insights and comments!

From my studies, so far, I have not perceived the Church to be of a feminine gender when interpreted from the specific words of the Scriptures. In a few places in Scriptures, metaphors, allegories and other forms of symbolism are used to describe the relationship of the Church in relation to Christ, but, to my knowledge not in the literal sense by the interpretations of the words. Can Christ have a Male Head and a Female Body?


Personally, I perceive the Woman is the Nation of Israel as interpreted from other verses in the Tanakh. The Man Child is the Universal Church full of Overcomers as interpreted from other Scriptures in the Tanakh and New Covenant.



Respectfully, the First Rule of Interpreting Scripture is to FIRST take the Scripture in the literal sense before trying to interpret symbols and metaphors. Second, study in the Hebrew or Greek ALL Words in the Scripture? Third, try to Interpret Scripture with OTHER Scriptures? If Other Scriptures or portions of the Scripture Relate to Your Original Scripture then You may Use that Interpretation, But, the Spirit of Yahweh Writes thru the Apostle Peter,

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that NO PROPHECY of the Scripture is of ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION.

Is He teaching Us, PRIVATE Interpretation is NEVER Allowed when Interpreting a Scripture?

However, AFTER the interpretation of the Scripture, metaphors, etc are completed, then, Some Interpretations can be Applied in various ways to our personal lives and situations. I have been taught there is One Interpretation of the Scripture or portion of Scriptures, But, Many Applications of the Scripture.

Respectfully, GrandDaddy ;-)

I see what you mean Angels.

Who is this being crowned?

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Anybody Roman Catholic wouldn't see beyond Mary the Mother but she looks very young.

I also think that the Turin Shroud is Jaques de Molay.

Sometimes artists don't even know what they are drawing.

I'm sure a lot of thoughtful people in the Catholic Church have thought he might have a wife. It will just be the ones who don't think for themselves who won't have considered it....

Here is a vision I had about the woman dressed in purple and scarlet. I saw her, she was dressed all up with a silk flowered purple and scarlet blouse, and a purple skirt, and she was putting on her expensive leather boots, she was getting all ready to leave somewhere. She grabbed her suitcases and was walking out the door, and then I heard a voice say outloud to me...."The woman of purple and scarlet is leaving....Are you ready?"

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