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~The Woman Clothed in the Sun~

 
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The thing I find curious is everyone is so focused on the Divine Mother they have forgotten that Her Son returns to Earth to rule with an iron fist.


Try again...

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Try what again exactly?
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My wife was clothed with the sun and little else while we were at the beach last week.
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From: GOD SPEAKS, WILL YOU LISTEN

10/17/07
Jesus:
...My people the time is now. Take heed to the words of the Lord. My people you have been told through My messengers that you are in the time of the Apocalypse Chapter 12. Take heed to the warnings in My Word. You
have been in Chapter 12 for many years. Pope Leo XIII had
a vision where Satan was going to attempt to destroy My church in a period of 100 years. In his pride, Satan once again was defiant to the Almighty. But he has been defeated again. For the gates of hell shall not prevail
against My church. The times of the vision are accomplished.

My people read My holy Word. Ask My Holy Spirit to guide and teach you. As you read this message, have My holy Word
with you. Apocalypse 12:1 has already been explained to
you. It refers to My Blessed Mother at Fatima AND to My
holy church....
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so much misunderstanding- Revelations was not about the future, it was written in code about the events of that time :-(


No it was based on ancient prophecies about the last days.

Angelseverywhere if anyone ever gives you a date for the coming of the Christ do not believe them. Nobody knows the date not even I.

He will not come until after the New Jerusalem is built and we have made everything anew. I have a timeframe and a brief on how to recognise him but not an exact date because a lot will depend on humanity.

Lotus

I would explain but the Priory would have a fit LOL, believe what you wish, it is your right,


I don't believe I know because of experience.

Lotus
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As do I
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God is very clear about who is involved in the End Times: The Two Witnesses. But that is another thread :)
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Note, though, that if we're going by scripture, the "end times" took place in Peter's day, as in Acts 2 he explains Pentecost as being fulfillment of prophecy from Joel which speaks about the "last days". So this was nearly 2000 years ago that the "end times" began. Can the "end" of an age somehow last longer than the age itself? It's not impossible, but it's cumbersome enough to seriously question.

This is all an issue I'm still looking into and don't have very much solidified in my understanding of it, but what I am pretty sure of is that mainstream "end times" teaching, a la "Left Behind", is largely inaccurate. I'm halfway through reading "Parousia" by James Stuart Russell, but I highly recommend it.
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From: GOD SPEAKS, WILL YOU LISTEN

10/17/07
Jesus:
...My people the time is now. Take heed to the words of the Lord. My people you have been told through My messengers that you are in the time of the Apocalypse Chapter 12. Take heed to the warnings in My Word. You
have been in Chapter 12 for many years. Pope Leo XIII had
a vision where Satan was going to attempt to destroy My church in a period of 100 years. In his pride, Satan once again was defiant to the Almighty. But he has been defeated again. For the gates of hell shall not prevail
against My church. The times of the vision are accomplished.

My people read My holy Word. Ask My Holy Spirit to guide and teach you. As you read this message, have My holy Word
with you. Apocalypse 12:1 has already been explained to
you. It refers to My Blessed Mother at Fatima AND to My
holy church....

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The lights that some believed was the blessed Mother was actually ET's.

The prophecies of Fatima never did feel right knowing the blessed mother as I do. Then the researchers/authors of the book contacted me directly to tell me about their research.

Heavenly Lights: The Apparitions of Fatima and the UFO Phenomenon
[link to www.amazon.com]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The bible tells people not to build upon his foundations with building materials and Jesus also tells you that the buildings of worship will come tumbling down in the last days. The bible talks about how those that build upon his foundations will narrowly escape the flames.

The day that the Paraclete flew into the USA the (Philadelphia) Church burnt to the ground just as the bible predicted.
Thread: Revelations; Philadelphia Church burns to the ground.....

Another one bites the dust...

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God is very clear about who is involved in the End Times: The Two Witnesses. But that is another thread :)


Note, though, that if we're going by scripture, the "end times" took place in Peter's day, as in Acts 2 he explains Pentecost as being fulfillment of prophecy from Joel which speaks about the "last days". So this was nearly 2000 years ago that the "end times" began. Can the "end" of an age somehow last longer than the age itself? It's not impossible, but it's cumbersome enough to seriously question.

This is all an issue I'm still looking into and don't have very much solidified in my understanding of it, but what I am pretty sure of is that mainstream "end times" teaching, a la "Left Behind", is largely inaccurate. I'm halfway through reading "Parousia" by James Stuart Russell, but I highly recommend it.
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Many of you would do well to put the bible down and go to earlier sources.

JEWISH PHILOSOPHY

In Jewish philosophy the White Horse is called ACHARIT = LAST, the Horse has wings like pegasus. The Acharit-HaYamim in Hebrew means "end of the days." The Dead Sea Scrolls talk about the 'Branch of David' the 'Interpreter of the (Spiritual) Law", the divine guide sent to Israel in the last days.

In the Midrash of the Last Days it states that a sanctuary of men will be built for Himself, that they may send up, like the smoke of incense, the works of the (spiritual) law. Prophet Isaiah also gave this prophecy; It came to pass that the Lord turned me aside, as with a mighty hand, from walking in the way of his people. The Levites strayed far from me following their idols. They are the sons of Zadok who seek their own counsel and follow their own inclination apart from the council of the community. In Psalm 45 God also calls his Royal Bride, his Queen out of her Fathers house and away from her people.

The prophecy continues why do the nations rage and the peoples meditate vanity? Why do the kings of the earth rise up, and the princes take counsel together against the Lord. This is the time of which it is written in Daniel "But the wicked shall do wickedly and shall not understand, but the righteous shall purify themselves and make themselves white." The people who know God shall be strong. They are the masters that understand.

The Dead Sea Scrolls continues with the Messanic Anthology fragment. The Lord spoke to Moses saying "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethen. I will put my words into his mouth and he shall tell them all that I command him. And I will require a reckoning of whoever will not listen to the words which the Prophet shall speak in my Name. In the Torah Moses asks God to bless a descendent of Joseph with this prophethood.

Islamic scholars claim that their prophet was the Lord Kalki, the Paraclete, the Interpreter of the law and the last Prophet and a lot more besides. However, the facts of the case do not support this; it is more likely that the prophet of Islam is the false prophet mentioned in Revelations chapter 19. Islam are making claims that are simply not true because their prophet did not meet the timeline for the last days or the criteria specified by the prophets and Jesus Christ.
[link to academysounds.blogspot.com]

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I'm wondering if she is the Divine Mother.. & if she is, then she has probably re-carnated on Earth as Mother Meera, an Indian woman of 48 yrs, who lives near Frankfurt in Germany. Mother Meera is a highly accomplished Avatar who gives out Darshan every weekend to purify chakras.

Here she is..

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Judge for yourself...
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It is an anunakie Her name is Tonantzin aka Guadalupe look at her pics
[link to ourladyofguadalupelathrop.org]
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it means the return of Quetzalcoatl


Thank you for the pics Feru....so you believe her to be annunaki? Honestly...Feru...I know that the return of Quetzalcoatl definitely ties in here....I do not know a lot about the annunaki like some on this forum...If you or anyone else...has anymore information about annunaki and the woman clothed in the sun ...that you could post that would appreciated....thank you very much Feru....I hope to learn more regarding this...

hf
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Anunnakies where here in this continet.
Teotihuacan means the city of the gods.
Tiahuanico, Chichen Itza, Tula etc and other ancient cities where anunakies.
Kukulcan, for the Mayas, Coahulila for purepechas, Mixcoac for Mexicas, Quetzalcoatl for the rest of Meso America means the same, a serpent on the sky, a sepent who fly, a serpent with feathers a serpent on the clouts...but all of those ancient towns witness the same in different sites and different time frames...Teotihuacans 2 thousand years before the Mexicas, Toltecs, Olmecs and the mayas describe the same on the sky with thousands of miles of distance between them.
Mayas explain that the serpent brings the gods from heaven to earth in many different stellas they picture like a serpent vomiting mans.

:snake1: snake man

The gods walk among people at that time... before the Spaniards conquers arrive, Godess Tonantzin had her pyramid on a little mountain called Tepeyac.
Tepeyac means a bright light over the mountain.
She apears to an indian Juan Diego and he describes her as the lady who stands over the head of the serpent which in nahuatl is something like Cuatxaloutl and for the stupid priest that sounds like Guadalupe and call her that way and also invent that she was crushing the head of the serpent (the devil is the serpent and Quetzalcoatl their god became the devil) But she was sustain by the serpent.
Anyway her imagine is a real proof of very advance tecnology on 1531 there is no way we can reproduce that paint today even with laser.
Unfortunately most of the proof of extraterrestrial intervention with the man is under religious hands, like the Fatima messages, even the Kaaba on Saudi Arabia under the custody of Islam. The Kaaba is the first human temple based on a rock given to Adan by Enki our anunnakie creator himself when they trow us out of Eden.

Any way she match the exact description of revelation 12
"And there appeared a great sign in heaven; a woman clothed with the Sun, and the Moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars. She was pregnant and screamed in the anguish of delivery."
  Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking
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[link to www.medjugorje.org]

Hi Angels!!! Found a little something about Mary.
hf

P.S. No bs lol :)
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Thank you, I have been there twice, truly an osasis of peace. hf
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This is interesting:

I was reading one of glp thread:

BREAKING!!! TORNADO HITS DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS
Thread: BREAKING!!! TORNADO HITS DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS

Out of curiosity I google the symbolic meaning of tornado:

TORNADO AND HURRICANE AS SYMBOL

(part of the article)

Vortex Winds

The nature of Infinity is this: That every thing has its
Own Vortex; and when once a traveller throí
Eternity Has passed that Vortex, he perceives it roll backward behind
His path, into a globe itself infolding; like a sun:
Or like a moon, or like a starry majesty,
While he keeps onward in his wondrous journey on the earthÖ
Thus is the heaven a Vortex passed already, and the earth
A Vortex not yet passed by the traveler throí Eternity.[xvii]


[link to www.marthablake.com]

The I google Symbolic meaning of Minneapolis:

I got this

WOLF SYMBOLISM - PART II

(part of the article)

As I wrote, I recalled that Minnesota also has the Twins baseball team, and the Twin Cities of Minneapolis AND ST. PAUL! It was very courious that the name St. Paul came to me at that time. I looked up some names in the dictionary. The twin city was named after Minnehaah Falls and the Greek word for "city." Minnehaha was the girl Hiawatha married in Longfellow's, "Song of Hiawatha."

........................(cut)

(The article ended up with this paragraph....)

As I see it, our feminine aspect can be symbolized by the daughter of the harlot in the time cycle. In the Great Change, the aspect becomes the Holy Spirit. The Mother Goddess is also shown symbolically to change, or be replaced. In Revelation, the harlot is replaced by The Woman With Child in Revelation 12.

I know this symbolism is difficult to follow and understand. I am still working on it myself. New meanings of the ancient symbols seem to be coming in dreams and in other ways, such as crop circle formations. It is like putting puzzle-pieces together into larger pictures. As yet, only a little of the picture is clear.

[link to www.greatdreams.com]


...Is everything connected/signs?


hf
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wow! I am stunned...honestly I need to digest this a little more ;) oh yes puzzle pieces lol perfect way to explain it! Many thanks to you honey for posting this....signs...everywhere signs ;)

hf
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so much misunderstanding- Revelations was not about the future, it was written in code about the events of that time :-(
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No imo...I believe they are talking about the end of days...that is when she is supposed to return!

hf
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The thing I find curious is everyone is so focused on the Divine Mother they have forgotten that Her Son returns to Earth to rule with an iron fist.
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Oh no!! I have not forgotten and I am sure the rest have not either...they both will rule together I believe...

hf
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so much misunderstanding- Revelations was not about the future, it was written in code about the events of that time :-(


chuckle


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um... blink thanks Roschard...still trying to figure it out....I mean it wasn't that long...but how weird chuckle ...neo...jesus on the cross....sacred Geometry...I guess everything in the universe is talking to itself...one giant communication center...thanks again.

hf
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The thing I find curious is everyone is so focused on the Divine Mother they have forgotten that Her Son returns to Earth to rule with an iron fist.


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chuckle

hf
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The thing I find curious is everyone is so focused on the Divine Mother they have forgotten that Her Son returns to Earth to rule with an iron fist.


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An allegory has meaning on multiple levels.

Futhermore every word has a specific meaning.

Iron fist and rule the earth as her son could describe some kind of magnetic anomoly presented by a returning extrasolar body, or even a comet strike on the earth, like Uriels Machine or Thor's Hammer.
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Of course they do ;)....hmmm interesting and plausible interpretation of the pic....I don't know why...but I have had 2 dreams about a comet strike...it was terrifying! thanks for your input AC

hf
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Oh and I just want to say Hi to the Hostess and thank you for making this thread and showing interest in this subject.

hf
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Hi as well honey!! lol no problem...I am thanking you and everybody on this forum that has contributed to this thread! I have learned so much! Have a great nite ac!

hf
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I'm starting to believe that on one level, the 'Woman Clothed with the Sun' is none other than our own Mother Earth.
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Could be...anything is possible AC! Thanks for your post!

:mearth2:

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so much misunderstanding- Revelations was not about the future, it was written in code about the events of that time :-(


No it was based on ancient prophecies about the last days.

Angelseverywhere if anyone ever gives you a date for the coming of the Christ do not believe them. Nobody knows the date not even I.

He will not come until after the New Jerusalem is built and we have made everything anew. I have a timeframe and a brief on how to recognise him but not an exact date because a lot will depend on humanity.

Lotus
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;) I understand Lotus! Thanks again!

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Esoterically, this is a symbol for the consciousness of the normal human personality after it has received both the Vision of "Son of man" and the Revelation of the "resurrection of the dead".

and the moon under her feet,


Esoterically, this demonstrates the control of the consciousness of the Knowledge of Truth over the 'unconscious'.

The woman is the mind, and clothed with the sun.


The sun is a symbol of the highest state of consciousness, Jesus, Ra, Mithra, Buddha etc..

In all sun god mythologies, the sun is always the highest state.


Here the symbolism is the woman (the mind) is now radiating this new consciousness, symbolized by being clothed with the sun. You mind has new raiment, has new garments, and these new garments are the sun/Jesus.


The moon is under the feet, because in all mythologies the moon represents the lower nature, which is sin, as sin is the Chaldean moon god.


This symbol represents that the mind is now under the influence of the higher aspect (the sun), and has control over the animal mind, represents as being under the feet, showing the domination over the lower lunar mind.


And the 12 stars represent the cosmic energy from the 12 signs of the zodiac.


The new mind or highest state of consciousness.

In general gold relates to the Sun or Higher Self and silver to the Moon or Lower Self.



The moon is more than just a pale satellite of interest to poets and astronomers. Its influence goes beyond merely creating ocean tides or driving biological cycles.


More importantly, the moon exerts a significant influence upon the mechanical, emotional, and psychological states in man.


The werewolf myth and superstition concerning full moon lunacy are not far from the truth. Certain lunar phases heighten the possibility for emotionally draining situations and stimulate reactivity and sensitivity in vulnerable individuals.


Personal observation reveals what numerous esoteric sources have explained at length, namely that we are food for the moon.



In man, the moon drives his mechanical aspects like a pendulum moving the gears of a clock. The degree to which one’s actions are driven by the moon is proportional to one’s level of reactivity and non-being.




For people incapable of moving themselves through life by nobler spiritual impulses, the moon provides a propulsive force. Without this force, mechanical individuals would be passive as puppets without a puppeteer.



Ouspensky went so far as to say that the very physical motion of our limbs was made possible thanks to the moon. Other Fourth Way initiates like Rodney Collin explained that because our body was largely made of water and the moon pulls on water to create the ocean tides, our bodies are made to move in similar but more complicated ways through hydraulic principles.


The quantity of force necessary to genuinely oppose the influence of the Moon is already considerable. The first imperative, then, is to stop wasting these forces, to turn off the taps which let the energy escape uselessly: sterile emotions, in particular negative emotions; fantasies from uncontrolled imagination; uncoordinated mental gymnastics, gossiping and chattering.



This is the MOON mind!!

The physical is under the control of the moon, but not the spiritual.

One who has learned to control the finer forces within themselves, it is the emotions.

These together form the microcosmic structure of the human body. The Sun represents the Higher Self and the Moon is a symbol of the Personality or lower ego mind.. Your task is to achieve the integration of the powers of these two triads whilst living in your physical body.


Who then is the woman clothed with the Sun? Clearly the 12 stars are the zodiac and the energy from these stars energising the 12 cranial nerves of your brain.

The Great Mother is symbolized by the Higher mind, received in the virgin consciousness of meditation. In the sky the Virgin in Pisces gives birth to the Monads as Stars, with the Solar and Lunar Selves.

It is the culmination and integration of your physical and spiritual forms.

And it is the meaning of the entire bible story.

God and Your Mind


Contrary to scientific opinion your mind does not have its origin in your brain.


Consciousness originates with God. Your Monad has god-like powers but lacks experience.

Therefore your Soul is sent forth to gain knowledge on Earth. What it does learn is transferred at the death of the physical body to a higher spiritual body known as the Causal Body.

Death can refer only to your physical body. You do NOT die at death. Your consciousness is freed from your body and it continues to live on the astral and mental planes which surround the Earth. Your Personality uses language as a means of communication.


If you want to communicate with other spiritual beings you must learn to pass information via symbols and pictures. That's why all these things are done in symbols, because symbols are a doorway to the right hemisphere of the brain. Only right brained people can discern such symbolism.


Your Higher Self is the repository of your consciousness when your body dies. Your body is related to the planet Earth. Your mind is associated with the Moon. Your Higher Self uses a form of Solar consciousness related to the Solar Logos or Christ. This means that there is a universal form of religion based on your spiritual anatomy, which in turn is a miniature reflection of the universe in which you live.

Your task is to unite your lunar personality to your Solar Higher Self.

This is called spiritual alchemy because it refers to the marriage of the Moon and the Sun within you, even when you are living on this planet Earth. Seek the Light within you.

The progress of the Great Work in the crucible (the brain) was often likened to the work of creation, and the generation of the spiritual man is in analogy with that of the natural man.

The Emerald tablet reads


Truly, without Deceit, certainly and absolutely


That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above, and that which is Above corresponds to that which is Below, in the accomplishment of the Miracle of One Thing. And just as all things have come from One, through the Mediation of One, so all things follow from this One Thing in the same way.

Its Father is the Sun. Its Mother is the Moon. The Wind (electromagnetism) has carried it in his Belly. Its Nourishment is the Earth (YOU). It is the Father of every completed Thing in the whole World. Its Strength is intact if it is turned towards the Earth. Separate the Earth by Fire: the fine from the gross, gently, and with great skill.


It rises from Earth to Heaven, and then it descends again to the Earth, and receives Power from Above and from Below. Thus you will have the Glory of the whole World. All Obscurity will be clear to you. This is the strong Power of all Power because it overcomes everything fine and penetrates everything solid.


In this way was the World created. From this there will be amazing Applications, because this is the Pattern.

Therefore am I called Thrice Greatest Hermes, having the three parts of the Wisdom of the whole World.






12:2 She was with child. She cried out in pain, laboring to give birth.

She was with child. She cried out in pain, laboring to give birth.

This is a symbol for the emergence of the consciousness of the Knowledge of Truth and the emergence of the War of the Sons of Light". (See the writings of Jungian and archetypal psychology.

What is being said here is that the mind (she) cried out in pain, as this mind is about to give birth to the Christ consciousness.



This is the birth of the new mind.

It is a painful process to let go of the old self, the self that has been by your side your whole life, it is like loosing something of the likes you have never experienced before. Nothing compares, to the giving up of the ego.

Symbolically interpreted, the Gospel story relates to the individualized Ray of the Cosmic Christ, which is latent in each human heart. In the events of Jesus' life we see this Christ-consciousness conceived, come to birth, grow in power, overcome the lower nature, master all its forces and make them willing servants, and finally triumph over death itself.
Curtiss

These events from the miraculous birth from a virgin, the flight, the baptism, the crucifixion, the rock tomb, the descent into the nether regions, the resurrection and the appearance afterward- all find a parallel in the lives of the other Saviors or Light bringers, all of whom held the same exalted place in the minds and hearts of their worshippers as Jesus holds among Christians. If these events were found in but one or two instances they might be attributed to coincidence.

In the zodiac


"In the zodiac the Annunciation indicates the time when the Sun enters the sign is in Virgo, August 22nd, where it foreshadows the `birth' in Capricorn, the manger."

While we are passing through the lower stages of unfoldment the Spiritual Consciousness is scarcely more than a vague overshadowing, but after many incarnations, we reach a stage where our minds are willing to recognize and admit that there is a Consciousness which transcends the ordinary human intellect. This is the Spiritual Consciousness which, when contacted through meditation



The annunciation that the Hindu savior, Krishna, was to be an incarnation of Vishnu was made to his mother, Devaki, by Vishnu himself. The coming birth of Hercules was announced by Zeus to his mother, Alkmene, Queen of Thebes. The birth of the Egyptian King, Amerzhotep III, was announced to the maiden Queen, ivlautmes, by the messenger-god, Thoth.



The birth of Confucius was announced by a giant dragon called Ire-lin. An angel from Orion announcud to Sochiquetze, the mother of Quaetzalcoatle, that she would bear a child who would be the savior of his people. Even Plato's birth, is said to have been announced, by Apollo, to his father, Aris, to whom his mother was only espoused.


fills us with light, life and love. We then realize that a closer union with Spiritual Consciousness is worth striving for. Only then does the mind become "espoused" to the heart. Still later a stage of development is reached when our heart realizes through intuition that a definite illumination is possible: the birth of a new consciousness, a new power, a new conception of Divine Love, the Christ-consciousness.



But ere this new birth can take place we must pass through the stages and experiences corresponding to the nine months necessary for physical gestation. Nine is the number of Initiation,' and it may require not merely nine months to prepare for this Initiation into the new life,


but many years or even many incarnations nine periods of unfoldment, according to our rate of growth ­to accomplish our spiritual gestation before the spiritual possibilities we have glimpsed at the time of the Annunciation can be brought down to earth and be born into the waking consciousness and we can bring them forth in the outer life.


Since the ass is the symbol of our animal nature, its use by Mary indicates that through love (Mary) and consideration, assisted by the mind (Joseph), we must so subdue and train the animal nature that it will become a willing and obedient servant to carry us on to the attainment of our highest ideals.

All infant Light bringers are therefore represented as being pursued by some vindictive ruler and fleeing to some far-off place of safety. But in none of the stories is the child ever caught, so the pursuer orders a slaughter of the innocents as the stars pale and disappear at dawn."


Herod's "massacre of the innocents" is another of those incidents which delight the historical critics and are the despair of the literalists. For although we find the incident given only in St. Matthew, the whole setting is flatly denied by the account of the birth given in St. Luke. It is not a question of St. Luke's merely failing to record the incident, but of his recording events which directly contradict the whole story of the flight into Egypt.


Will the Christ consciousness come?


Or will it be prevented?
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My head is spinning!! lol so much to think about regarding this topic...I have nothing to say ac...because you said it all....very insightful interpretation...thank you for posting this!!

oh and btw...i truly believe it will come...his faithful followers have suffered enough time for a new way of thinking ;)

hf
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The people of Earth are a combination of both archetypes, and developed in a unique way. Most planetary races are either genetically engineered or evolve without interference. We are actually a combination of evolution and intelligent design. Earth, due to its distant location, was used by the angelic Life Carriers as the seed planet for all genetic material in the Galaxy. We were allowed to evolve in order to take advantage of this diverse genetic repository, and are therefore related to all 12 primary Galactic species.

After the system rebellion/isolation, incarnate beings from both Light and Dark star systems were allowed to enhance the evolving form with advanced extraterrestrial DNA at various stages throughout that evolution. Once again, this could not be prevented. As a result, although we are a young race, the people of Earth are also the most genetically advanced species in the Galaxy. We are capable of extremely rapid ascension and will become incredibly powerful and wise as we progress through the dimensions.

Earth is therefore the “Golden Child” of the Galaxy itself, and the key to Its Own ascension. We will be able to unify all alien species into a harmonious organization of diverse individuals, thus also manifesting the pure ideals of freedom.




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The woman is the new earth, 12 stars are the 12 archetypes of human race throught galaxy, sun? well, we are going to have two SUNS.



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Thread: JUPITER IGNITION!!!!!!! (Page 130)
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Hello Urantian!! I have read your thread before...certainly it makes you think...I will have to go back to the Jupiter Ignition thread...and read it some more....your knowledge of this subject is fascinating and I know there is truth to what you say....you seem very passionate about the Jupiter Ignition...thank you for contributing to this thread...and for all of the wonderful information....

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You do realise that in the scheme of things we are all as important as each other. If there is some chick involved in the end times, unfortunately I don't believe we will ever hear about it. The only thing that is fueling this is the mystery.
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Oh yes of course we all are...it is you and I that is awake that will have to try to pass this information on to the others who still have their eyes closed right now...I think we will indeed hear about her...she is to be queen afterall...

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God is very clear about who is involved in the End Times: The Two Witnesses. But that is another thread :)
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oh yes...I believe there are a few floating around GLP with great information ;) thanks ac!

hf
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The thing I find curious is everyone is so focused on the Divine Mother they have forgotten that Her Son returns to Earth to rule with an iron fist.

Me first.

Thread: My dream from last night with president Obama, the queen of England and the Pope
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Hello Maurice!! how are you? Okay I left answering your post till the end...because I know there are a few threads from that link that I would like to take a further look at...your dream about Christianity is fascinating....I have my own conclusions as to modern religions and I posted that earlier in this thread...but lets just say your dream hit a note with me...I am a very vivid dreamer..I always remember my dreams...some have even came true...that is why I always pay attention to them...you just might have seen the future....;)who knows??? Thank you Maurice for posting this!

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Hello angel:

May I introduce you the phoenix journals:




UNFOLDING DIVINE PLAN



So, you would ask, what has this to do with the unfoldment of the Divine Plan? Just this--Atlantis was not the only great civilization that has evolved upon Earth. There have been many others lost to antiquity such as Lemuria. But you are so attached to some ones such as Lemuria that the memory cannot be erased I for you who experienced therein are destined to serve again NOW. Each time that mankind has advanced to the level of a Lemuria or an Atlantis, it has had within its reach the opportunity to raise Earth's level of consciousness to fourth dimensional awareness and it has failed. Each failure was due to the misuse of spiritual powers which allowed total takeover by evil intent locked within the "physical" expression, in turn entrapping the soul and delaying its passage into glorious radiance.



In the past, this could be condoned because there was still yet another chance. Now, however, you have reached a point in Earth's history and in galactic evolution where the transition into I fourth dimensional consciousness must be made so that you can perceive the dimensional expression of understanding and KNOWING the principles of LIFE-STREAM experience.



Let me explain a bit more clearly. The Divine Plan is based upon the Will of God (Spirit, Universal Mind, or whatever name you might choose to call the indefinable Infinite Intelligence). Divine Mind always proceeds in an orderly, evolutionary pattern predicated upon Its principles of Universal Law. Wherever this Divine Plan affects man, he is always made aware so that he will have the opportunity to cooperate and grow upward in this evolutionary spiral.



Man is now being made aware, through many means, such as this very discourse, of certain galactic facts of universal, immortal life. As you know, your solar system is a part of the Milky Way galaxy as you have identified it. Your solar system revolves around the Milky Way in an orbit that takes some 206 million years as you would calculate in your numbers. We can refer to this revolution of your solar system around the galaxy as the Great Cycle Orbit. Your solar system (our solar system—for you are a segment within the solar system (actually) of Pleiades with our Central Sun), was created some time in your type of counting at least 4-1/2 billion years ago. This rough estimate will serve us well enough for our purposes herein. I am not going to teach you "truth in astronomy" nor "astrological divining". This corresponds to 22 Great Cycle Orbits of your solar system around the Greatest Central Sun, not to be confused with the Central Sun, Alcione, of Pleiades. You see and must understand that the Divine Plan as regards YOU is not finished—only progressing into other expression of the continuing "play" in action.

In the Will of Divine Mind, as communicated to the Spiritual Echelon of our solar system, this completes the time cycle in which our entire solar system is to remain in its present state of evolution. As the age of understanding and higher knowing moves into a new frequency vibration where no expression below the fourth dimension will long continue to exist, comes the need to reconstruct and have guidance into this higher state of experience. Man has a basic set of "phases" in experience as a whole, and the "whole" concept will be moving into that which is higher in experience, while some fragments will continue in ignorance within an experience of limitations and bondage and others will experience in the total void of Lightlessness—and others who serve as simple "lesson creations" will be removed and cease to experience.



Man began to experience life in your system centuries in the millions past, at the beginning of the present Greatest Cycle Orbit. The Divine Plan is for all human life within your solar system to achieve at least the awareness of cosmic consciousness by the end of this orbit which is reaching its conclusion now with the time of Kali (Chaos). This means that man of Earth must immediately become aware of what cosmic consciousness is and take the necessary steps to raise his individual level of consciousness to that state of knowing awareness. Failure to do so will result in self destruction! Man of Earth, in your present state, simply cannot tolerate the new incoming change in physical frequencies even if he could survive the physical bombardment thrust against him by the evil intent and projection of man. Within this Great Cycle Orbit, there have been a number of lesser cycles. When the Atlantean civilization failed to reach its development potential, this left only the so-called 26,000 year "minor" cycle of the zodiac (as you call it) to complete the Plan. As this present age draws to a close, this cycle, concurrently with the Great Cycle Orbit, comes to an ending.



Right now, planet Earth is the only planet in your solar system where man has not yet reached the cosmic level of awareness. This level of consciousness must now be rapidly attained in order to fulfill the Divine Plan and insure your continuity of passage as a species of this civilization.


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The woman is the mind, and clothed with the sun.

The sun is a symbol of the highest state of consciousness, Jesus, Ra, Mithra, Buddha etc..



There are much higher realities than the sun. The sun warms this earth but the cosmos of God has a much bigger picture.

Lotus
 Quoting: Lotus Feet


I have to say I do agree with you Lotus! So big that most can't even wrap their mind around it at times...lol including me!



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Breaking News... guess what while I was looking for more info about Tonantzin aka Guadalupe. I found out that last year they change her crown ....for a new one on a very solem ceremony...
and yes the new crow have 12 STARS on it!!!

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  Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking
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The woman is the mind, and clothed with the sun.

The sun is a symbol of the highest state of consciousness, Jesus, Ra, Mithra, Buddha etc..



There are much higher realities than the sun. The sun warms this earth but the cosmos of God has a much bigger picture.

Lotus


I have to say I do agree with you Lotus! So big that most can't even wrap their mind around it at times...lol including me!



hf
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Indeed and many do not wish to accept the obvious. Sometimes the truth is so close to peoples noses they simple do not see it.

As I have said before God has made this case so watertight that nobody will be able to argue with it once all of the facts are known. It is even written in the lines of my right hand and only God could create such a reality.

I was urged to look at the picture again yesterday and Michelangelo left another sign in the fresco as he usually does.

Her left hand is completely different to her right hand and I understand why he gave a command for this avatar.

THE FRESCO
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You will notice that her right hand looks like the ancient pictograph of the hebrew letter KAPH and the letter KAPH became the letter 'K". K is also the first letter of her physical birth name.

ANCIENT PICTOGRAPH
[link to www.ancient-hebrew.org]

More on this Hebrew letter and it has the value of 20
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You will notice that the right hand is around the child.

In numerology the number 20 = Judgement. Pictured as a winged angel sounding the trumpet to the man, woman and child. This relates to the JUDGEMENT card in the major arcane. Again one can see that here we have the Trinity once more and it has the ability to transform society when people are made aware of this truth. When the three come together as one a new reality on a higher plane is created.

The Jewish Rabbi wrote "Here the secret of the kaf is the "much" revealed from the "little" point of the yud."

In astrology the YUD is the finger of God.

YUD
G-d's "hand" - the Infinite Will and ability to sustain the Creation.
Charity, physical and spiritual.
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She is a well respected member of the community and yesterday she was asked to be a trustee for a charity that will impact on the lives of children and their parents who are involved in violence.

God works in mysterious ways to prove his point.

We are truly blessed.



Lotus

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This posted at exactly 333

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This posted at exactly 333

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you did some mistake here
K = 11
since letters are counted in hebrew 22 Aleph Toth
K has a fixed position universally at 11
there are too many associations with this to mention here
just mention recent one

"In recent months you had an article concerning, many people seeing the time, 11:11 on clocks. I have had that experience for the last couple of years, on and off, seeing 1:11 or 11:11. I have asked the Lord many times, 'what is it, Lord, what does that mean?'

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