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1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation

 
Anonymous Coward
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1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation
I've sat down and thought about common currents in St. John's writings and have pulled the thread of light and darkness that is a big theme in John's gospel, his epistles and apparently revelation. Light is christ. Darkness is not just evil but refusal to acknowledge the light. ok. now the sun. This is the evangelism of the church, turning black as sackloth we can see that the sun is no longer shining sackloth is a symbol of mourning and penitence. So, the church at this point of revelation is in mourning. The moon is in my estimation those in the process of repenting, those who have received the light. The moon changes phases as we all know and optimistically I view the waxing moon as a symbol of one accepting light and acknowledging it. The stars, heck if I really know yet... But i think this whole symbolism is the darkening of the evangelism of the church and from here on, repentance = mourning, hence the blood red moon. The woman clothed in the sun is the church as well, the sun here is the church's evangelistic efforts, she is standing on the moon as one who has conquered those who were once in disbelief. The 12 stars on her head are possibly the apostles. So we have a sequence apostles, church, sun = evangelism moon = those evangelized to. The baby is the product of being born again as in John's gospel where christ speaks to nicodemus...
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Re: 1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation
Would the sun look black if something crashed into it? Would we see giant CMEs that could make the moon look red if this happened?
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Re: 1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation
Would the sun look black if something crashed into it? Would we see giant CMEs that could make the moon look red if this happened?
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a black sun produces no light so cme's are black too.
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Re: 1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation
Would the sun look black if something crashed into it? Would we see giant CMEs that could make the moon look red if this happened?

a black sun produces no light so cme's are black too.
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I'm talking about the impact. Would that not cause stuff to fly off the sun? Perhaps coloring our atmosphere or making the moon look a different color? And where it hits the sun- the impact- could that look black?

Just asking, not arguing. I have no idea, lol. I just read your thread after reading the Solar Impact thread and the new Soho image so that was on my mind. ;)
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Re: 1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation
what an idiot I am, surely satan was behind my error. Repentence = martyrdom!!!! Hence the blood red moon, the whole point of my post dead in the water DARN!!!!
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Re: 1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation
it is the 2 witnesses-Arcturus and Beetlejuice are set to explode, causing the moon to glow red and the sun to darken i suppose.

this could happen in my life time. this is an interpretation type guess.
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Re: 1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation
Or how about something simple...

Meteor impact causing large volcanic activity, causing lots of ash to be propelled intot he sky around the planet (Theres your black sun) then s the ash falls the moon shines through the sulfer dust and etc of what's left in the atmosphere and it turns it red... Simple
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I mean you don't really need the meteor.. but it was for effect.
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Re: 1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation
Or how about something simple...

Meteor impact causing large volcanic activity, causing lots of ash to be propelled intot he sky around the planet (Theres your black sun) then s the ash falls the moon shines through the sulfer dust and etc of what's left in the atmosphere and it turns it red... Simple
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great, the sun is black days before the moon is red and the sun is back to bright purple or greeen i guess.
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Re: 1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation
you know, I doubt you care, but the stars in the start of revelation were the seven churches of asia minor, perhaps stars are all the churches (in this context- obviously when the dragon drags down a third of the stars it is angels- so the stars also represent the heavenly host)

Whatever they mean, the earthquake- or universe quake- as it is referred to in my study bible- is symbolic of a sudden occurrence (obvious right?) all will be quiet when suddenly the emergence of the blackness of iniquity arises on the scene, christians everywhere are martyred, the church is either dead, mourning or simply hidden, those converting are being killed immediately or shortly after conversion, and the stars are on earth, all of them, like untimely figs being swept off a tree by wind- this may also be simply the death of all those who shine in the darkness, untimely harvest is also possibly the removal of something nascent as though the process were occurring slowly but suddenly were brought to closure. I think this seal of revelation is in fact a summary of how the end will take place, all will be in a steady state of coming to fruition but the process will be set in very fast motion by an untimely earthquake and wind, divine removal of that which restraineth. I think the seals of revelation are not necessarily a temporal sequence. I once heard of revelation referred to as god the father's last will and testament to his son. Perhaps each seal removed is an illumination of what will take place but they must be each interpreted separately and superimposed. Oh, and the sky receding like a scroll- this could be simply heaven completely being in "view" or being completely evident on earth even to those not spiritually inclined.
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Re: 1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation
No, this is not talking about spiritual blindness, imo, since the same passage also talks about 'the powers of heaven being shaken and stars falling from the sky' before all nation see the sign of the Son of Man appearing in the sky.


This is more likely to be a cosmic event.
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Re: 1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation
it is from an eclipse

the moon hides the sun and there is no light

the moon appears blood red
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Re: 1 more possible meaning for the blackening of the sun and blood red moon in revelation
No, this is not talking about spiritual blindness, imo, since the same passage also talks about 'the powers of heaven being shaken and stars falling from the sky' before all nation see the sign of the Son of Man appearing in the sky.


This is more likely to be a cosmic event.
 Quoting: Lens Flare

If that is what it is then it will be extremely obvious to everyone what is taking place, the whole revelation will be irrelevant and everyone with a 10th of a brain will repent. It is only the 6th seal and if we are talking of the last minute of existence then the 7th seal and 7 trumpets will be meaningless. I think this is more about a symbolic illumination, perhaps the tying together of all the other seals. The 7 trumpets will occur as this is occurring and they are also obviously symbolic. You probably will not actually see an angel wearing a cloud with pillars of fire on his feet a sunshine face and rainbow on his head. None of any of this is literal and the most specific we can get is that the antichrist will be a man, that the two witnesses will be prophets, how many literally who knows. 144000 may literally refer to a number but more likely is 12 tribes times 12 apostles times 1000 which is like the chiliastic clause, the 1000 year reign, not literal but a number signifying vastness.





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