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HEALTH officials have warned doctors of possible similarities between the new swine flu vaccine and a jab linked to 25 deaths in America in the 1970s.

The government’s Health Protection Agency (HPA), said in a letter to neurologists that they needed to look out for increases in cases of a brain disorder that might follow the launch of the immunisation programme.

The letter has been sent because of concerns sparked by studying of the swine flu vaccination campaign in America.

In 1976, Washington rushed in a mass immunisation programme against a swine flu outbreak that was confined to a single military base.

Several hundred cases of a rare, lethal, paralysing neurological disease called Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) were reported afterwards, and although no clear link was ever found to the vaccine, the incident made many people mistrustful of immunisations.

Although the swine flu virus vaccine now close to completion is different from the one used in 1976, the HPA said the earlier incident nevertheless highlighted a possible area of concern.

“The vaccines used to combat an expected swine influenza pandemic in 1976 were shown to be associated with GBS and were withdrawn from use,” Professor Elizabeth Miller, head of the HPA’s immunisation department, wrote in the letter sent last month to neurologists.

“GBS has been identified as a condition needing enhanced surveillance when the swine flu vaccines are rolled out.”

The Department of Health said: “Appropriate trials to assess safety and immune responses have been carried out on vaccines very similar to the swine flu vaccine. The vaccines have been shown to have a good safety profile.”

The World Health Organisation has also said recently that the public should be “reassured” about the safety of the new vaccine. It acknowledged that “genuine adverse events directly caused by the vaccine may also occur, but cannot be predicted in advance”.

The NHS will monitor any possible risks from the vaccine, including a possible connection with GBS.

GlaxoSmithKline is developing the vaccine in Germany for an immunisation programme due to start in October.

Some 9.4m people in England will receive the vaccine if they fall into priority groups, alongside 2.1m frontline health and social care workers. In Scotland 1.4m people in either at-risk groups or working in health and social care will get the jab.

Priority will be given to those aged six months to 65 years in high-risk groups – including those with asthma, diabetes, heart disease, renal disease or with a compromised immune system.
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Parents are worried about the swine flu vaccine

Parents are confused and concerned about the swine flu vaccine due to be introduced in October.

Parents talking on the internet forums have expressed some concern about the H1N1 vaccine that will be offered to children and adults with underlying health conditions and pregnant women as priorities.

Fears raised include its safety for pregnant women, whether the vaccine has been tested enough and the fact one of them contains a controversial mercury preservative.

One mum posted: "Absolutely no way would I allow my son to be vaccinated, he's not a guinea pig."

Another said: "This strain seems to be mild but they are predicting that the second strain will be alot worse especially with it being flu season. Plus if it mutates we could be in serious trouble if we are not vaccinated."

Justine Roberts, Co-founder of mumsnet.com said: "Lots of mums on Mumsnet are questioning whether giving the swine flu vaccine to their children is a good idea. Some are worried about how well it's been tested, others about it's effectiveness and side effects."

The GlaxoSmithKline vaccine contains thiomersal which was linked to neurological disorders and autism in the 1990s but has since been extensive tested and no evidence of harm has been found.

Its use was phased out of most vaccines, however it is being used in the GSK vaccine to make it last longer and avoid wastage.

Prof David Salisbury, head of immunisation at the Department of Health, said the vaccines will arrive in vials containing about ten doses as it is not feasible to produce or store single-dose preloaded syringes on the scale needed to vaccine the 11m people who will be offered the vaccine between October and December.

He said, if only one or two doses in a vial are used on one day the GSK vaccine can be stored overnight in the fridge and the remaining doses used the next day. However the Baxter vaccine, which does not contain thiomersal, would have to be thrown away if the whole vial's contents were not used within three hours, he added.

Pregnant women on the forums had mixed views with some saying they are eager to be vaccinated against swine flu while others were circumspect.

Prof Salisbury said the vaccine will be offered to pregnant women who are at greater risk of complications if they contract flu, data from Britain and America has shown.

The European Medicines Agency will decide on whether the vaccine is offered to women at all stages of pregnancy or only in the second or third trimester when the risks of swine flu to both mother and baby are higher.

Prof Salisbury said concerns about vaccines during pregnancy are based on theorectical risks that a live virus vaccine could affect the feotus but extensive tested with the rubella vaccine had not found any evidence of this. He added that the H1N1 vaccines are not live anyway but contain an inactivated version of swine flu.

He said: "We are taking a sensible approach to vaccinate people who are at greatest risk from swine flu first. For people with risk factors the flu may not be mild at all."

He said the products are based on pre-pandemic vaccines using the H5N1 bird flu virus, which have been extensively trialled. The manufacturers have then switched the flu H5N1 flu strain for the current H1N1 swine flu change, in the same way as the seasonal flu vaccines are altered each year to match the current circulating strain.

In addition to this new trials are now beginning using the H1N1 vaccines covering all age groups.

A spokesman for GlaxoSmithKline said: "The World Health Organisation has recommended that for vaccines which come in multidose vials, manufacturers use a preservative to enable doctors to withdraw several doses from the same vial.

"There have been many studies conducted over decades of research which suggest that thiomersal has a good safety profile and is well tolerated. It is essential that a preservative is used in vaccines such as this to avoid wastage."

He said there was no alternative to thiomersal as a preservative for vaccines of this kind.

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 Quoting: Rebecca Smith, Medical Editor, The Telegraph, 15 August 2009


There you have it folks: you will get your mercury shot and you will like it.
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it's actually not new news. Vaccines have been known to cause GBS and other neurological diseases for years. only reason this could be considered "big" news is because of more and more cases of vaccine related illness's in the MSM. Not saying it's good enough reason NOT to take a vaccine, but after contracting GBS and subsequently CIDP, would have rather had the flu.

I have CIDP(Chronic Inflammatory Demyleniating Polyneuropathy) which is essentially the Chronic form of GBS. I got it from yup you guess it ...a Flu Vaccination. just the regular ole flu vacc. it can be deadly and certainly is debilitating.
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Will never take this poison. Vaccine's are a great way to reduce head count.
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Will never take this poison. Vaccine's are a great way to reduce head count.
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I am not a big fan of vaccines either because of what happened, but I think it's a double edged sword you know. you got alleged vaccines to protect us against things like the flu/swine flu, etc etc. but on the hand, you take the vaccine and end up with a slew of debilitating side effects. I wont take it if i don't have to.
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming--WOO HOO what a ride!"
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I still think this is connected to the murders of those 2 french students in London.

I think they were going to blow the whistle on this whole swine flu/vaccine fiasco AFTER getting back to France. They would then have had some protection under French law.

Jean Charles de Menezes was another who could have travelled back to Brazil, blown the whistle about 7/7/2005 - and there is no extradition policy between Brazil and the UK.
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vaccines = weakend immune system and autism (lack of empathy)


stay away from any vaccines(if you know whats good for you)
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Guillain-Barré Syndrome - Symptoms
Symptoms of Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) include:

Numbness or tingling in the hands and feet and occasionally around the mouth and lips.
Muscle weakness on both sides of the body in the legs, arms, and face.
Difficulty speaking, chewing, and swallowing.
Inability to move the eyes.
Back pain.
The first symptoms of Guillain-Barré syndrome include tingling in the fingers and toes and weakness in the arms and legs that may appear several days or weeks after a respiratory or gastrointestinal infection. Tingling is a very common symptom that may be caused by a wide variety of medical problems. But after muscle weakness develops in addition to tingling, GBS becomes a more likely cause of these symptoms. Tingling and weakness may spread to the arms and upper body. GBS can become life-threatening if weakness spreads to muscles that control breathing, heart rate, and blood pressure.

Muscle weakness caused by GBS often gets worse over 1 to 4 weeks before it stabilizes and then gradually improves. In some people, symptoms continue to get worse for up to 3 months. In children, persistent symptoms of GBS may include tiring easily and having muscle pain during exercise.4

There are different forms of GBS, but symptoms are often a lot alike. Most GBS symptoms are caused by damage to nerve coverings (demyelination). This causes problems with how messages travel between the brain and the rest of the body.


[link to www.webmd.com]
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the coming forced vaccination program is merely a peaceful population reduction scheme.

Many people will die from this.
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You know, OP...I don't believe this swine flu vaccine is safe either and will not be taking it. But I have to call you out on your misleading thread title.
The vaccine hasn't been out long enough to know yet, and your thread title may cause some people to panic. Please be honest and change your title to reflect the ACTUAL information presented. Don't be a sensationalist just to try to have a "popular" thread.
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Will never take this poison. Vaccine's are a great way to reduce head count.



I am not a big fan of vaccines either because of what happened, but I think it's a double edged sword you know. you got alleged vaccines to protect us against things like the flu/swine flu, etc etc. but on the hand, you take the vaccine and end up with a slew of debilitating side effects. I wont take it if i don't have to.
 Quoting: Mysterysoul


You are assuming vaccines even have a positive side (as little as that be may) but unfortunately that is not true. Do some research into Eugenics and you'll get your answers.
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You know, OP...I don't believe this swine flu vaccine is safe either and will not be taking it. But I have to call you out on your misleading thread title.
The vaccine hasn't been out long enough to know yet, and your thread title may cause some people to panic. Please be honest and change your title to reflect the ACTUAL information presented. Don't be a sensationalist just to try to have a "popular" thread.
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stop being a nit picker NLI(or who ever you are)

the thread is bang on the money
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Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter - concern of neurologists over 25 deaths

A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter.

The letter from the Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, has been leaked to The Mail on Sunday, leading to demands to know why the information has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.

It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine.
GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal.

The letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications.

There are concerns that there could be a repeat of what became known as the ‘1976 debacle’ in the US, where a swine flu vaccine killed 25 people – more than the virus itself.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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The last I heard, the vaccine was still egg-based and those individuals who are unable to take the regular flu shots and vaccines due to allergies were said to be able to refuse this one too.?
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I am not a big fan of vaccines either because of what happened, but I think it's a double edged sword you know. you got alleged vaccines to protect us against things like the flu/swine flu, etc etc. but on the hand, you take the vaccine and end up with a slew of debilitating side effects. I wont take it if i don't have to.
 Quoting: Mysterysoul


You might want to read I Am Walrus' post in a thread of this same article. I will repost and link here because the info is that important for perspective and understanding:

First post:

Pay attention to this one, folks! The last time anyone in my family had a flu shot was the fall of 1985. Why, you ask? Because as a DIRECT RESULT of taking that flu shot (confirmed by doctors), my mom spent NINE MONTHS in the hospital, about 2 1/2 of which she was on a ventilator. Guillian Barre Syndrome is real, and CAN kill, if not caught and treated properly.

My mom was mis-diagnosed for about 2 months before she was hospitalized on December 23rd of 1985. Thankfully, the doctor who admitted her had seen it before, and immediately suspect that was her problem, ran the proper tests and confirmed her diagnosis. She didn't see her home again until September 12, 1986!

At one point, she was completely paralyzed, from the top of her head to the bottom of her feet. She couldn't even open & close her eyes! However, once she recovered, she let us know that even though she couldn't move, breathe or eat on her own, she was FULLY AWARE of everything around her, and was able to feel pain, hot, cold, touch, etc. She said it was absolutely the most horrifying experience of her life. she has dealt with the aftermath for over 20 years, with partial paralysis and continuing health problems DIRECTLY RELATED to her bout with Guillian Barre, which was DIRECTLY RELATED to her taking a flu shot! Pay attention to this warning, even if you've ignored all the others and refuse the shot!

Second post

Patriot, I've been singing this same song at the top of my lungs since 1986! EVERY year when the flu vaccines are pushed, I tell everyone who will listen to JUST SAY NO! The risk of the flu is definitely the lesser of the two evils when you consider what my mom and others with GBS have been through. Imagine this, if you can...

You can't speak, you can't move, you can't even blink your eyes, but you CAN feel, and hear and see. A nurse comes in every 4 hours or so and jams a large bore needle into an artery so they can check your blood gasses to make sure you are getting enough oxygen. (no anesthetic used, either)

They shove something UP YOUR NOSE, hard enough to break it. You feel all of it, but can't even cry out. (I came into mom's room right after they did that. She wasy lying there, staring blankly at the ceiling, with tears streaming from her eys. The doc said "no, she's not crying, her eyes are just over compensating for the lack of blinking. Later, she confirmed they were tears)

The doctor determines you are going to be on the ventilator for a while, so a tracheotomy is necessary. They cut a hole in your throat and do the trach with you COMPLETELY CONSCIOUS OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING! (Mom fainted during that one). They tape your eyes shut to keep them from drying out, and you immediately become so claustrophobic you literally almost have a heart attack. You are trapped inside your own body, with no way out.

Try to see how it would be to deal with that BEFORE you say yes to the flu vaccine!

Third post:

Your chances of getting GBS skyrocket when you throw the flu vaccine into the math. This has been VERY under publicized, IMHO. Everyone keeps talking about the 1976 problem, but there were FOUR PEOPLE hospitalized in Memphis, TN at the same time as my mom, with the same problem, due to the same cause. THEY ALL TOOK THE FLU VACCINE!

Memphis is a large city, true, but think about it. That's four at ONE HOSPITAL, that I actualy have knowledge of, in 1985/1986. Seems to me the ratio was a bit to high to be "1 in 1 million". I could be wrong, of course, but common sense says to be VERY CAUTIOUS and question the validity of the need for this vaccine!

Thread: Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America

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Nice stuff.

This is EXACTLY why more people died from the vaccine than the swine flu in 1976. Same exact disease. Same exact cause.

No way I am taking that shit. I was 50/50 now I am no fucken way take me to the fema camp.

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To emphasize that the above happened to I Am Walrus' mother in 1985.

There is a reason they don't (CDC doesn't) keep track of these incidents or study vaccine side effects: for profit, they don't want the info in our hands.

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Nice stuff.

This is EXACTLY why more people died from the vaccine than the swine flu in 1976. Same exact disease. Same exact cause.

No way I am taking that shit. I was 50/50 now I am no fucken way take me to the fema camp.

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I don't even get the normal Flu vaccine. You can bet your ass I am staying far far away from this one.
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And the best way to get it is to let them vaccinate you.
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Vaccination has always been a fraud. If you go to Google Books you can find publications re the debates in the Royal Society of Medicine regarding Jenner and efforts to stop smallpox. You will see
1. Innoculation raised death rate by an order of magnitude.
2. Jenner didnt invent it
3 Cow pox was NOT used. He used what he referred to as "grease from a horses hoof". I guess the pharma folk would think cow pox to be more acceptable to the masses. Still doesnt fit germ theory though.

As further proof of their money above all else consider the practice of innoculating newborn. We read that breast feeding is vastly superior as the antigens/antibodies in mothers milk are needed because the infants immune function is too immature to provide protection. Yet they stick babies. Cant have it both ways. Germany stopped innoculating under 12 months and SIDS rate fell 90%.
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Guillain-Barré was the fancy name they gave for something that should have been called vaccination disease.

Dead Doctors Don't Lie, anymore, because they can't.
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Guillain-Barré was the fancy name they gave for something that should have been called vaccination disease.

Dead Doctors Don't Lie, anymore, because they can't.
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Actually, Guillain-Barré is a renaming of a disease quite well known...............






Polio.



But we eradicated polio, right?

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it's actually not new news. Vaccines have been known to cause GBS and other neurological diseases for years. only reason this could be considered "big" news is because of more and more cases of vaccine related illness's in the MSM. Not saying it's good enough reason NOT to take a vaccine, but after contracting GBS and subsequently CIDP, would have rather had the flu.

I have CIDP(Chronic Inflammatory Demyleniating Polyneuropathy) which is essentially the Chronic form of GBS. I got it from yup you guess it ...a Flu Vaccination. just the regular ole flu vacc. it can be deadly and certainly is debilitating.
 Quoting: Mysterysoul


MSM on CBS news this morning said GBS caused by vaccinations for one in a million. At least they are acknowledging it - and did confirm that it was the choice of the parents or person whether or not they wanted to take that risk, ie: it is not mandatory.
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To emphasize that the above happened to I Am Walrus' mother in 1985.

There is a reason they don't (CDC doesn't) keep track of these incidents or study vaccine side effects: for profit, they don't want the info in our hands.

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Thanks for moving my info over here, Patriot! I'm at work & don't have time to keep up. Let me add this, as well:

My mom was in her 50's when she took the flu shot and developed GBS. What her neurologist told us at the time was that he was more concerned for my mom than most of his patients with this because SHE WAS SO MUCH OLDER THAN THOSE THAT USUALLY DEVELOP IT! Those in their mid-teens to mid-thirties were the most likely candidates to develop GBS, and as "rare" as GBS was, it was even "rarer" in those over 50.

Gives you even more to think about, I hope. I don't have a link and I can't point you to any medical journals to back that up, it's just what her neurologist told us back in 1985/1986.

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Steve Qyuale and the Hawk have mentioned this on their radio show over the last year....

chemtrails are part 1 of this secret program

it was started in fall of 1996 or a bit earlier
by cargo tankers spraying a mix of barium aluminum and other bio toxins in the air...

we all have breathed it....

u have breathed a lot of this junk into your lungs and it went into your blood and tissues over the last 13 years

its stays in your system... weaking it for a long time.. and it continues to grow in the blood ....due to its fungus type of effects... its hard to treat or get rid of


try using baking soda daily....internally and externally or ph neutral drops


you must face the fact that chemtrails are sprayed every couple of days in most areas... you are and have been under this aerosol heavy attack of these toxins on a weekly basis for years....


its is now over 13 years old and time for

their master plan part two........ notice the thirteen illuminati NAZI year plan....

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IF anyone has noticed tingling symptoms in hands and feet over the last 13 years after they chemtrail spray your area heavily
you may have noticed some of these symptoms of it already to some degree...

NO its not just a pinched nerve or siting too long in one spot....but the start of a disease process.... a fungus based autoimune disease that gets in your lungs organs and blood....

it was planned to effect your bodys nervous autoimune system

its all carefully planned by illuminati for their population

reduction eugenics program and NWO 2009 fall takeover.....


thats why they cant tell u... The NWO Nazi have made it

and they will benefit by the sick people who will need
treatment with drugs by big pharma companies too


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a one two punch ... now u know the push for a socialized health care program...as many will get sick from flu shots you will see big pharma not only make money from vaccines but all the side effects treatments


notice how you cant sue them now if you come down with the side effects...............

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they NWO have had a long term two part binary system

program in place...you all have been effected by it already

to various degrees... it depends on your resistance and your own immune system....

junk food diet people will notice it more already as they are already toxic from diet....
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soon you all will be more toxic in your blood and even more

thanks to who forced flu vaccines program...

gulf war syndrome and Guillain barr syndrome are all related to this program and other nerve and autoimune diseases as well...

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vets were the experiment given toxic vaccines in 1991

Vets many were not totally sick until they came back to states and breathed chemtrails in 1996 over the recent years ....there symptoms got worse...

they already had vaccine toxins and were breathing the new chemtrails that made it worse for them

doctors told them they were crazy and prescribed prosak as they were told they have a mental disease when they are sick from this program....

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its all a two part binary NWO eugenics program

to steralize the ignorant profane sheep

the protocals of zion called the people the goyim or cattle....

they have no rights according to their illuminati zionist protocals... read behold a pale horse by Bill Cooper

BILL Cooper said in his book from their own writting that these profane ignorant sheep needed to be culled by The elite NWO luciferans masters

the had no rights and were just beasts of burden

stakes on the global table to be used by the illuminati luciferan elite who control this world...

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the GBS

Muscle weakness caused by GBS often gets worse over 1 to 4 weeks before it stabilizes and then gradually improves. In some people, symptoms continue to get worse for up to 3 months. In children, persistent symptoms of GBS may include tiring easily and having muscle pain during exercise.4

There are different forms of GBS, but symptoms are often a lot alike. Most GBS symptoms are caused by damage to nerve coverings (demyelination). This causes problems with how messages travel between the brain and the rest of the body.


toxic overload...


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I took care of some of those in 1976 as a nurse that got GBR. It was intentional. The was NOT a vaccine it all, it contained viruses intended to do harm. Especially to black people and word got out and many of them refused it.

I took at and got MS. I have people in my circle that took it and got RA and Lupus. I lost a cousin to the lupus. This faux "vaccine" was not as virulent as they hoped it would be.

This new version will be, however, star fleet will interfere and detox it before it goes out so this one will not work either.

I also have a problem with diabetes as many did who took the pneumonia vaccine. That one caused a autoimmune disorder against the pancreas.

Now would be a really good time to NOT take vaccines, any of them.
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You know, OP...I don't believe this swine flu vaccine is safe either and will not be taking it. But I have to call you out on your misleading thread title.
The vaccine hasn't been out long enough to know yet, and your thread title may cause some people to panic. Please be honest and change your title to reflect the ACTUAL information presented. Don't be a sensationalist just to try to have a "popular" thread.
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There was a precedent :


Special Guest Opinion from Dr. Russell Blaylock
[Editor's note: My friend, Dr. Russell Blaylock, is a board certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. An expert on nutrition and vaccines, he is also editor of the widely distributed Blaylock Wellness Report. Dr. Blaylock graciously submitted the following comments for August Review readers. I highly recommend his newsletter.]

I was in the military during the first swine flu scare in 1976.


At the time it became policy that all soldiers would be vaccinated for swine flu. As a medical officer I refused and almost faced a court martial, but the military didn’t want the bad publicity. Despite the assurance by all the experts in virology, including Dr. Sabin, the epidemic never materialized.

What did materialize were 500 cases of Gullian-Barre paralysis, including 25 deaths—not due to the swine flu itself, but as a direct result of the vaccine. At the time President Gerald Ford, on advice from the CDC, called for vaccination of the entire population of the United States.

Today, some 33 years later, we are hearing the same cries of alarm from a similar lineup of virology experts.



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Re: Swine Vaccine Causing Guillain-Barré syndrome
getting the shot. get it every year

the world needs super vaccinated heros that are healthy and not paranoid scared of getting a shot little girl types

as the niche herd of the unvaccinated cowardly beg for help
thesmarter people that are vaccinated will assist them, because unlike paranoid unvaccinated people that make fun of others and wish them ill, super vasccinated heros are moral.

don't worry little scared half men. the men will take care of things.
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that star fleet is gonna do a hell of a lot of saving on arrival!
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the medical establisment downplays the the actual evidence of people getting sick and dying from vaccines....

doctors rarely report the millions of people who get sick from the vaccines....

the media is biased when it reports the dangers of vaccines...

the media never has anyone who talks about the dangers of vaccines...

but they do have many who promote vaccines....

all of this is very well orchestrated...

because vaccines like chemtrails are at the heart of the killing fields....

create awareness.....

we didn`t have the internet before....

we do now....

we are not stupid or ignorant anymore....

spread the word....

loud and clear...

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Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu.

Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
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the world needs super vaccinated heros that are healthy and not paranoid scared of getting a shot little girl types
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If you were as much a superhero as you profess, then you wouldn't need to get a vaccine because your natural immunity would be enough.

So if anyone's a girly man, then it's you, bawbag.





GLP