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I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving

 
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I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving
I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving.

There is just too much suffering, constant suffering in the creation that has gone on for thousands of years. I believe in some form of a Creator but cannot reconcile that a Creator could be both all-powerful and all-loving at the same time al let the Earth continue as it has. The Creator must be only one of these or else what could possibly be such a Creator's definition of love? All life lives off death and suffering of others.
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Re: I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving
We have choices. Every thing you see around you, every evil, every suffering- it's all because of choices WE have made. We wanted this choices, we needed them to spiritually grow. If one does not know evil how does one understand goodness?

The point is every single one of needs to accept responsibility for our role in the mess at hand. We all have blame, our souls have been here for awhile contributing to this mess.

That's why a shift is coming. Some are finally getting it, finally waking up. And because of the situation on earth, those who would use their free will wisely and with love are being 'abused' by those who refuse to see their role and even actively contribute to the pain of others.
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Re: I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving
We have choices. Every thing you see around you, every evil, every suffering- it's all because of choices WE have made. We wanted this choices, we needed them to spiritually grow. If one does not know evil how does one understand goodness?

The point is every single one of needs to accept responsibility for our role in the mess at hand. We all have blame, our souls have been here for awhile contributing to this mess.

That's why a shift is coming. Some are finally getting it, finally waking up. And because of the situation on earth, those who would use their free will wisely and with love are being 'abused' by those who refuse to see their role and even actively contribute to the pain of others.
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So you believe a child that is stricken with a debilitating illness or abused brought this upon themselves as a learning tool?

"IF you does not know evil how does one understand goodness?" - so, you think God created evil, too?
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Re: I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving
See? Now you are becoming intelligent. You are thinking, and logically at that.

Fact is, the Creative Force is a ruthless principle. It uses violence to create a violent universe and it doesn't know anything else. Ruthless nature should teach you about the ruthless creative force, but somehow, the idiots cant see it.
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Re: I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving
Enlightenment through pain, all life is suffering, the object is to detach from all of it because in the end none of its real, knowing that is not enough though, enlightenment is more like experiencing it to the point you know it to be true and then you have no worries or concerns, for their is no suffering joy or anything you perceive that is true.


an example of this from the matrix...

Try to realize the truth, there is no spoon, then is it is not the spoon that bends but yourself

hence you perceptions are a reflection of the illusory world and thus look not outside for answers but within :P
Saura~

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Re: I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving
Actually, the creative source is neutral.
Free will determines the outcome.
As a man thinketh is the genesis.
:blinkylizard::

PEACE, LOVE & LIZARDS~
Saura~

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Re: I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving
This too:
"hence you perceptions are a reflection of the illusory world and thus look not outside for answers but within :P "
:blinkylizard::

PEACE, LOVE & LIZARDS~
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Re: I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving
I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving.

There is just too much suffering, constant suffering in the creation that has gone on for thousands of years. I believe in some form of a Creator but cannot reconcile that a Creator could be both all-powerful and all-loving at the same time al let the Earth continue as it has. The Creator must be only one of these or else what could possibly be such a Creator's definition of love? All life lives off death and suffering of others.
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Again you seem to neglect the cause of strife: your patron Satan and (assuming you're gentile or false Jew) his offspring YOU.

I think the will of the Creator is pretty clearly documented in that he wishes to remove unintended lifeforms or those who vandalize his creation with what is artificial. If you translate this to be a form of hate then so be it. It is actually a desire to restore everlasting peace and harmony.
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Re: I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving
Im surprised people still wonder why.

This is not Gods Kingdom. Its Gods Creation but not his Kingdom. Thats why the laws applied here and rules ,values and regulations are not of God. In the Our Father Jesus points this out with the Thy Kingdom Come. Thy will be done.. He clearly indicates it is a desired future event.
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Re: I've come to the conclusion that the Creator is either not all-powerful or either not all loving
...OR, even not there / here ?





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