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VIENNA - Iran has lifted a yearlong ban and allowed UN inspectors to visit a nearly completed nuclear reactor and has granted greater monitoring rights at another atomic site, diplomats said yesterday.

International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors visited the nearly finished Arak heavy water reactor last week, the diplomats said. They added that Iran agreed last week to agency requests to expand monitoring of the Natanz uranium enrichment site, which produces nuclear fuel that can be further enriched into warhead material.

The diplomats demanded anonymity because their information was confidential.

Iran is softening its position days before the release of a new report on its facilities from the international watchdog group. It is unclear whether the increased access is an attempt to influence how much unsubstantiated information would be released in the report.

The inspectors had sought additional cameras and inspections of the Natanz site, to track the rapidly expanding enrichment program. Iran's stonewalling had raised agency concerns that its inspectors might not be able to ensure that material produced at Natanz is not diverted for potential weapons use.

Since its clandestine enrichment efforts were revealed more than six years ago, Iran has steadily increased them, shrugging off three sets of UN sanctions and rejecting talks meant to induce it to mothball the activity.

A June report from the inspectors said nearly 5,000 centrifuges were enriching at Natanz - about 1,000 more than at the time of the last agency report, issued in February - with more than 2,000 others ready to start enriching.

The agency's next report is due within two weeks. It is expected to confirm that operations continue to expand - along with Tehran's potential capacity to produce weapons-grade uranium.

The United States, Britain, France, and Germany, which are considering new sanctions, are urging the nuclear watchdog to reveal all the information it has that suggests Tehran is pursuing atomic weapons, diplomats said.

The nations are planning to hold talks on Iran's nuclear program next month with Russia and China, on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Western diplomats say. To make a strong case for more sanctions, diplomats said, the four Western powers have been urging Mohamed El Baradei, the outgoing head of the UN nuclear watchdog, to reveal information he has on Iran that they say could help bring Russia and China around.

Western diplomats said they hoped El Baradei would include unreleased information the agency has gathered on Iran.

One senior Western diplomat said that some of that information related to Iran's so-called 'alleged studies' into building a nuclear weapon.

'The alleged studies are more than alleged,' the diplomat said on condition of anonymity, adding that El Baradei has for years been 'overly cautious' about his Iran reports.

[link to www.boston.com]

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well if iran will let nuclear inspectors in why won't israel?

why won't israel agree to non proliferation rules? it insists iran do something it's not willing to do!!!


sounds very suspicious .....
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well if iran will let nuclear inspectors in why won't israel?

why won't israel agree to non proliferation rules? it insists iran do something it's not willing to do!!!


sounds very suspicious .....
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Israel is not a signatory to the NPT and under no obligation.
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08/21/2009 12:59 AM
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Interesting timing
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well if iran will let nuclear inspectors in why won't israel?

why won't israel agree to non proliferation rules? it insists iran do something it's not willing to do!!!


sounds very suspicious .....


Israel is not a signatory to the NPT and under no obligation.
 Quoting: D. Bunker


well israel sure does a lotta talkin about it for a country that that won't follow international norms for non proliferation.

why the hell doesn't iran repudiate the 'npt' treaty and follow israels' example. that would end all the bs about inspections etc.
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well israel sure does a lotta talkin about it for a country that that won't follow international norms for non proliferation.

why the hell doesn't iran repudiate the 'npt' treaty and follow israels' example. that would end all the bs about inspections etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 737897


I believe Iran has weighed the costs and benefits of such a withdrawal and has elected to remain in the NPT thus far.

Israel wishes to continue a policy of ambiguity regarding nuclear capability and has consistently pursued regional technological dominance. The diplomatic path is agreeable to their goals.
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Nuclear inspectors are not really there to inspect anything. Most of the inspectors are AGENTS, from Military to sneak and take pictures for invasion/war plans.

IRAN is being an idiot.

VIENNA - Iran has lifted a yearlong ban and allowed UN inspectors to visit a nearly completed nuclear reactor and has granted greater monitoring rights at another atomic site, diplomats said yesterday.

International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors visited the nearly finished Arak heavy water reactor last week, the diplomats said. They added that Iran agreed last week to agency requests to expand monitoring of the Natanz uranium enrichment site, which produces nuclear fuel that can be further enriched into warhead material.

The diplomats demanded anonymity because their information was confidential.

Iran is softening its position days before the release of a new report on its facilities from the international watchdog group. It is unclear whether the increased access is an attempt to influence how much unsubstantiated information would be released in the report.

The inspectors had sought additional cameras and inspections of the Natanz site, to track the rapidly expanding enrichment program. Iran's stonewalling had raised agency concerns that its inspectors might not be able to ensure that material produced at Natanz is not diverted for potential weapons use.

Since its clandestine enrichment efforts were revealed more than six years ago, Iran has steadily increased them, shrugging off three sets of UN sanctions and rejecting talks meant to induce it to mothball the activity.

A June report from the inspectors said nearly 5,000 centrifuges were enriching at Natanz - about 1,000 more than at the time of the last agency report, issued in February - with more than 2,000 others ready to start enriching.

The agency's next report is due within two weeks. It is expected to confirm that operations continue to expand - along with Tehran's potential capacity to produce weapons-grade uranium.

The United States, Britain, France, and Germany, which are considering new sanctions, are urging the nuclear watchdog to reveal all the information it has that suggests Tehran is pursuing atomic weapons, diplomats said.

The nations are planning to hold talks on Iran's nuclear program next month with Russia and China, on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Western diplomats say. To make a strong case for more sanctions, diplomats said, the four Western powers have been urging Mohamed El Baradei, the outgoing head of the UN nuclear watchdog, to reveal information he has on Iran that they say could help bring Russia and China around.

Western diplomats said they hoped El Baradei would include unreleased information the agency has gathered on Iran.

One senior Western diplomat said that some of that information related to Iran's so-called 'alleged studies' into building a nuclear weapon.

'The alleged studies are more than alleged,' the diplomat said on condition of anonymity, adding that El Baradei has for years been 'overly cautious' about his Iran reports.

[link to www.boston.com]
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All this means is that the Iranians are done with whatever part of their nucler weapons program they were conducting at those sites, and the project has progressed to the next stage. So theres nothing for the 'inspectors' to see there anymore, and the Iranians are letting them in to string the West along a while longer until they have the capacity to hold the world hostage with their new nukes.

Wake up! These are not NICE people, this is THE wellspring of Islamic terrorism in the world, the hive, the NEST from which this embodies evil originates.
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I believe that Iran wants and is actively pursuing nuclear weapons. It seems logical to me that they aspire to be an "equal" on the world stage this way.
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I believe that Iran wants and is actively pursuing nuclear weapons. It seems logical to me that they aspire to be an "equal" on the world stage this way.
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I believe they not only seek such weapons, they seek regional hegemony and have the potential to become a new regional superpower with sufficient time.
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I believe that Iran wants and is actively pursuing nuclear weapons. It seems logical to me that they aspire to be an "equal" on the world stage this way.


I believe they not only seek such weapons, they seek regional hegemony and have the potential to become a new regional superpower with sufficient time.
 Quoting: D. Bunker


You can believe what you want.
Even top U.S. military experts state they are no where near creating the bomb.

As far as hegemony, Israel is the one with hegemony plus 200-400 nukes, some pointed at western europe.

Even if Iran got the bomb the only thing it would accomplish is to stop Israel from running around the region killing people and stealing land.
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yeah, after Iran does what it wants to and ships the material, cleans up the evidence..."Sure, c'mon in and see. We are good and we do not built big bomb." chuckling Iranian techs
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Why are they stopping them using lifts?

They will be too tired if they have to take the stairs everywhere.
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The ol' stringer....
Cui Bono?
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well if iran will let nuclear inspectors in why won't israel?

why won't israel agree to non proliferation rules? it insists iran do something it's not willing to do!!!


sounds very suspicious .....


Israel is not a signatory to the NPT and under no obligation.
 Quoting: D. Bunker



you mean honest israel is once again the " special case' ?

gee, what a coincidence.
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I believe that Iran wants and is actively pursuing nuclear weapons. It seems logical to me that they aspire to be an "equal" on the world stage this way.


I believe they not only seek such weapons, they seek regional hegemony and have the potential to become a new regional superpower with sufficient time.



Even if Iran got the bomb the only thing it would accomplish is to stop Israel from running around the region killing people and stealing land.
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ANTI-SEMITE !@
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well if iran will let nuclear inspectors in why won't israel?

why won't israel agree to non proliferation rules? it insists iran do something it's not willing to do!!!


sounds very suspicious .....


Israel is not a signatory to the NPT and under no obligation.
 Quoting: D. Bunker



Man, the benefits of being one of gods chosen special people on gods chosen special land, just boggle the mind.

and yet we are told how we need to continue to feel sorry for those poor jews. Ask Gaia.
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I find it funny that `all' the people on the nuke list
dont want anyone else on it

`do as I say, not as I do' seems to be the commmon thread here....


if ANY of the countries that are demanding that iran (and nth korea etc etc) disarm

would actually do as they said they wanted- we would be seeing that right...

so why aren't they- cause its a total con

its an excuse to invade yet another country under yet another excuse that will be yet again shown to be total bullshit

but the sheeple that is most americans will jump up and down until either everyone else is destroyed- or they are


if even a small number of them actually used their brains- all this shit wouldnt be happening

unfortunately that seems a big ask....
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Re: Iran lifts ban on nuclear inspectors
well if iran will let nuclear inspectors in why won't israel?

why won't israel agree to non proliferation rules? it insists iran do something it's not willing to do!!!


sounds very suspicious .....


Israel is not a signatory to the NPT and under no obligation.



you mean honest israel is once again the " special case' ?

gee, what a coincidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 753277


In my opinion, there is no linkage. This is about Iran and their responsibilities toward a treaty they chose to sign. What the ramification can or should be for failure to comply is at issue. Whether it is fair Israel chose not to sign in favor of their policy of ambiguity is not the point, but an attempt to redirect the debate.

The legality, ethics and consequences for the use of force to press non proliferation is more on point.

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I find it funny that `all' the people on the nuke list
dont want anyone else on it

`do as I say, not as I do' seems to be the commmon thread here....


if ANY of the countries that are demanding that iran (and nth korea etc etc) disarm

would actually do as they said they wanted- we would be seeing that right...

so why aren't they- cause its a total con

its an excuse to invade yet another country under yet another excuse that will be yet again shown to be total bullshit

but the sheeple that is most americans will jump up and down until either everyone else is destroyed- or they are


if even a small number of them actually used their brains- all this shit wouldnt be happening

unfortunately that seems a big ask....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 753260


The point of the NPT is that no further nations acquire nuclear weapons.

[link to www.un.org]
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Natanz is probably a diversion and the real enrichment is going on underground.
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If I find out Iran ordered 200,000 "IT WASN'T US" T-shirts... I'm going to move into my bunker.
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well israel sure does a lotta talkin about it for a country that that won't follow international norms for non proliferation.

why the hell doesn't iran repudiate the 'npt' treaty and follow israels' example. that would end all the bs about inspections etc.


I believe Iran has weighed the costs and benefits of such a withdrawal and has elected to remain in the NPT thus far.

Israel wishes to continue a policy of ambiguity regarding nuclear capability and has consistently pursued regional technological dominance. The diplomatic path is agreeable to their goals.
 Quoting: D. Bunker

I guess when you control all the banks and media like the zionist Israel does you dont have to follow the laws. If Israel attacked Iran the world should unite and put Israel in its place, dont let Israel start WWIII.
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VIENNA - Iran has lifted a yearlong ban and allowed UN inspectors to visit a nearly completed nuclear reactor and has granted greater monitoring rights at another atomic site, diplomats said yesterday.

International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors visited the nearly finished Arak heavy water reactor last week, the diplomats said. They added that Iran agreed last week to agency requests to expand monitoring of the Natanz uranium enrichment site, which produces nuclear fuel that can be further enriched into warhead material.


'The alleged studies are more than alleged,' the diplomat said on condition of anonymity, adding that El Baradei has for years been 'overly cautious' about his Iran reports.

[link to www.boston.com]
 Quoting: D. Bunker



All propaganda....they know Israel is about to bomb them.
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I guess when you control all the banks and media like the zionist Israel does you dont have to follow the laws...
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Regardless of your dislike for Israel, the NPT is a treaty and not a part of some assumed international law. Non-signatory nations are under no obligation to keep it nor comply with its requirements.

Iran could simply withdraw from the NPT. Have you considered why they do not simply choose to do this?

Interestingly some would approve force to sign a treaty, but abhor the utilization of force to insure adherence to the treaty. Interesting double standard.

As for me, I do not support the use of military force to enforce a peace treaty for obvious reasons of hypocrisy.

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I guess when you control all the banks and media like the zionist Israel does you dont have to follow the laws...


Regardless of your dislike for Israel, the NPT is a treaty and not a part of some assumed international law. Non-signatory nations are under no obligation to keep it nor comply with its requirements.

Iran could simply withdraw from the NPT. Have you considered why they do not simply choose to do this?
[/quoteAll i can say is people are worried about Iran when they should be worried about Israel they are worse than any idiot muslim extremist. The arabs/persians just ruin there own lands, Israel ruins other people's lands.
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As for me, I do not support the use of military force to enforce a peace treaty for obvious reasons of hypocrisy.
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Good point.
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Without wanting to appear to take sides, Israel has had the bomb for quite some time without ever actually using it. Would Iran be able to do the same if they aquired nuclear weapons?
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well if iran will let nuclear inspectors in why won't israel?

why won't israel agree to non proliferation rules? it insists iran do something it's not willing to do!!!


sounds very suspicious .....


Israel is not a signatory to the NPT and under no obligation.
 Quoting: D. Bunker

and Iran is?

I mean this with all respect but, why is it so easy for Israel to avoid such conditions but the Iranians are being threatened left and right for the same pursuits?
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Without wanting to appear to take sides, Israel has had the bomb for quite some time without ever actually using it. Would Iran be able to do the same if they aquired nuclear weapons?
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This is at the heart of the debate for US policy. Can we depend upon MAD and thus allow the emergence of a new nuclear power in the region or will Iran use these weapons directly or by proxy to further a dangerous agenda?
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Without wanting to appear to take sides, Israel has had the bomb for quite some time without ever actually using it. Would Iran be able to do the same if they aquired nuclear weapons?
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Innocent before guilty?

Or guilty before innocent?


I'm not an Iran supporter, but neither to I support Israel. Why can't we let Iran and Israel figure this shit out? I for one don't give a shit unless they hit my country.

Sure it is scary to think iran has a bomb but it is wrong for MY nation to posses them and not let others.

And if Iran happens to nuke me, well shit happens and it sucks. I trust my country would return the deed 10 fold.

Such is life, we can not let fear control us controlling others.

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