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Waiting lists are a form of eugenics. Thanks EWO.
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Waiting lists are a form of eugenics. Thanks EWO.
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What do all the British shills like Lotus who raved about health care in the UK say now?

You said you didn't have to wait.
Know everyone knows your a bunch of liars and shills.
And why did a foreign nation try sooo hard to push their health care program in the U.S. anyway?

Tell your little Nazi British agent George Soros to go home, he failed.

You are totally busted you assholes.
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What do all the British shills like Lotus who raved about health care in the UK say now?

You said you didn't have to wait.
Know everyone knows your a bunch of liars and shills.
And why did a foreign nation try sooo hard to push their health care program in the U.S. anyway?

Tell your little Nazi British agent George Soros to go home, he failed.

You are totally busted you assholes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 746172


Watch the use of past tense there. It ain't over yet. We don't want people to "rest" and think the fight is over.

FLF

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I think the point that this video makes is that the current system is broken. If we can only get quality healthcare in a profit-driven system, I think that this says a lot about our values in America. The story is very one-sided, so it proves nothing to anyone except those who happen agree with it. And ironically, this site it always complaining how the media is biased and can't be trusted. This is no different. I want to hear both sides of the debate, not just what the media (which is also a profit driven system) has to say.
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I am thrilled at the plethera of choice here.


A.)Expensive but it sucks.

B.)Expensive but it sucks worse.

C.)Sorry you have used up all your choices already.


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Very eye opening vid. Imagine if Canada can't get it right for only 33 million people,how in the heck can we do it for 300 million?
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It's only a matter of time before what's happening in Canada happens in the USA even with the current system. The problem is that in our existing privatized system, insurance companies limit how much they are willing to pay for treatment, doctor visits, drugs, etc. and what they are willing to cover. This alone has caused many people not to go into healthcare and not to become doctors. There are now a lot more women entering the medical field than men because there just isn't the money (profit) in it that there used to be (Women are generally going into for a different reason). And doctors also feel that their hands are too tied by the insurance companies already.
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This was on ABC? Weird, but cool.

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Our medical system is still not as good as it was under Hill-Burton, and almost all of its current problems are attributable to Nixon's decision to go for the HMOs.

Obamacare amplifies the deficiencies of the HMO, and it is entirely arguable that the specifications in the bill itself, regardless of denials, point towards a Soylent Green mentality.

The Pyramid system is responsible for so much needless human suffering, while keeping countries backwards as a matter of policy. How does one consider that the current proposals for health care will do anything other than amplify the overwhelming direction and flow of wealth into fewer and fewer but larger and larger drains?

Medical care through family doctors was not always so heavy on expenses, nor irrational about given patients a 100 dollar aspirin.

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I will go on the Program as soon as My Congressman, Senator and President go on it... but first I need a job so I can pay the taxes for the coverage....

It is about the economy STUPID President....Someone needs to pinch this guy to make sure he is awake... I am sure he is dreaming and we are just living his FRIGGEN DREAM
SRSLY wake up
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Stossel's in the bag. MSM distraction.
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I think the point that this video makes is that our current health care current system works very well, compared to socialist systems. It shows that the government run systems in Canada and Britain are broken. We can only get quality health care in a profit-driven system, which also happens to be true to our values in America. The story is very fact based, with many empirical facts to back up what it says. It proves that a private, capitalistic system -- where people have private health care insurance -- is much better than one run by government bureaucrats. And ironically, this report comes from ABC, which normally has a decided pro-Democrat bias. I think the media (which is also a profit driven system) has awakened to the sentiments of an overwhelming number of Americans and has finally started to tell some of the truth.
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Stossel's in the bag. MSM distraction.
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Anybody that supports Obamas plan for more federal control is obviously on the wrong side of what's good for our country and We The People.

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Healthcare is bullshit care.

If you need a waiting list to live it is over. There is no hope except false hope. Obama care is the same old shit. THe only change is the ability for shitcare providers to get government funding for the same low quality care we already git.

FACE THE MUSIC dimbulbs, the system we have sucks ass.
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Did I mention?

I don't have the solution and I don't know what the problem is either.

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that plan just sucks.. who would want that?
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Stossel's in the bag. MSM distraction.


Anybody that supports Obamas plan for more federal control is obviously on the wrong side of what's good for our country and We The People.
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Stossel is still in the bag and a MSM distraction. MSM has you focused on this and not because they are altruistic.
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They could start with the lawsuits. That made the insurance go
up for doctors and hospitals then it went up for us.

The money also changed in Nixons time, they made it total fiat, so prices changed. I remember that before then it was a lot cheaper to pay for insurance and the doctors visits.

It also caused it to be much higher priced to run a business.
They started to do just in time stock, instead of having it on hand, buying for businesses.
Really, thou it seems some of this is unrelated, it does figure into the way things changed.
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I have Canadian friends who tell me this vid is full of shit...they get care from specialist for free, and they don't wait in any lines for emergency care...

we have always distorted Socialized medicine... it is no different ... they pay a percentage of their wages for care...we could do the same...we don't get anything for our tax dollars now but bombs.
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meow?
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Any guess about who paid Stossel to do the show?

follow the money
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Its all about filtering down the useless eaters. Much easier when you control the health system. Its all about robbing the peoples money. Its much easier when you own the banks.

control
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I have Canadian friends who tell me this vid is full of shit...they get care from specialist for free, and they don't wait in any lines for emergency care...

we have always distorted Socialized medicine... it is no different ... they pay a percentage of their wages for care...we could do the same...we don't get anything for our tax dollars now but bombs.
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Shill.

Care is guarenteed for immeadiate service but for advance care akin to kemo, wait for months buddy.

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Watching the battle between Obama's bankrupt plan and the FDA-approved nonsense we presently have is like watching two scorpions battle to the death and then befriending the winner.

I'm glad I was able to cure my stage 4 cancer myself for less than $20.

PS. I much prefer today's broken system over the Obama plan. His plan would break the entire nation. He might like that.
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They could start with the lawsuits. That made the insurance go
up for doctors and hospitals then it went up for us.

The money also changed in Nixons time, they made it total fiat, so prices changed. I remember that before then it was a lot cheaper to pay for insurance and the doctors visits.

It also caused it to be much higher priced to run a business.
They started to do just in time stock, instead of having it on hand, buying for businesses.
Really, thou it seems some of this is unrelated, it does figure into the way things changed.
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Well, that's just it. Good points. There are MANY ways to tackle fixing our medical system. O-Vomit's Health sCare system is NOT one of them.
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LPACTV: The British Are Bad For Your Health

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If I ever see a part of MSM agreeing with popular opinion I wonder what's going on while the distraction of this "divided opinion" is in full swing. Everyone watches Punch and Judy squabble while Acorn-type pickpockets work the crowd.

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