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IS THIS WHY THE SO-CALLED ILLUMINATI EXPOSES ITSELF?

 
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I was recently told (in earnest) that were it not for some of the things people have brought to the fore (with the advent of the information superhighway), certain phenomena and their status quo would be safe, but that instead, after all the hard work determined to bury the truth, up pops what is untenable, right here, right now in the 21st century.

Elaborate?
 Quoting: WrecksDeus


Satan is intimately familiar with the certainty that mere and strategically placed words can bring down what is nigh on invulnerable.
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But so is God familiar with that concept.

Only more so.

So, mere fear is not sufficient; one must also glean knowledge where Truth is to be found.

Rotsa ruck!
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This is the arrogance, the complacency which will cause you to come unstuck, which will seal your fate.
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laugh

Arrogance is the "faith" that you've got it all right and you're God's super selfrighteous chosen one!

Complacent!?! Crack me up! Ignorance is assuming you know anything about anyone by one qip online.

The rest of your non-sequitur/passive aggressive curse speaks for itself...
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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But so is God familiar with that concept.

Only more so.

So, mere fear is not sufficient; one must also glean knowledge where Truth is to be found.


 Quoting: UNtypical USer


Whereas The Creator is aware of the concept, his Kingdom is purged of the resultant fever.

Satan's Virus on the other hand is just now ripening nicely and today would be as good a time as any to test how well it stands up to the irony of inoculation.
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Whereas The Creator is aware of the concept, his Kingdom is purged of the resultant fever.

Satan's Virus on the other hand is just now ripening nicely and today would be as good a time as any to test how well it stands up to the irony of inoculation.
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Pop quiz: Where did the word "Satan" originate?
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Satan is intimately familiar with the certainty that mere and strategically placed words can bring down what is nigh on invulnerable.
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Perhaps to those hung up on semantics...
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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This is the arrogance, the complacency which will cause you to come unstuck, which will seal your fate.

laugh

Arrogance is the "faith" that you've got it all right and you're God's super selfrighteous chosen one!

Complacent!?! Crack me up! Ignorance is assuming you know anything about anyone by one qip online.

The rest of your non-sequitur/passive aggressive curse speaks for itself...
 Quoting: WrecksDeus


Everything is relevant.

I take this opportunity to at least try to communicate the nature of what you deem to be my faith. It is beyond such a description.
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Whereas The Creator is aware of the concept, his Kingdom is purged of the resultant fever.

Satan's Virus on the other hand is just now ripening nicely and today would be as good a time as any to test how well it stands up to the irony of inoculation.

Pop quiz: Where did the word "Satan" originate?
 Quoting: WrecksDeus


Do tell!
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Satan is intimately familiar with the certainty that mere and strategically placed words can bring down what is nigh on invulnerable.

Perhaps to those hung up on semantics...
 Quoting: WrecksDeus


Actually to the unthinking. After all, it takes mindless conviction to undermine authority.
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Whereas The Creator is aware of the concept, his Kingdom is purged of the resultant fever.

Satan's Virus on the other hand is just now ripening nicely and today would be as good a time as any to test how well it stands up to the irony of inoculation.

Pop quiz: Where did the word "Satan" originate?


Do tell!
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Judaic court. The prosecution often were referred to as "shaitans" or adversaries. Shaitan gets bastardized into Satan.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Satan is intimately familiar with the certainty that mere and strategically placed words can bring down what is nigh on invulnerable.

Perhaps to those hung up on semantics...


Actually to the unthinking. After all, it takes mindless conviction to undermine authority.
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Touche'

Mindless conviction is a sad state of affairs....
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Everything is relevant.

I take this opportunity to at least try to communicate the nature of what you deem to be my faith. It is beyond such a description.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 755255

My comment was on religion, not faith, but if you equate the two, my condolences...

Do you not know much of "religion" is bullshit? Designed quite on purpose to keep you subjugated by wilier men? Surely I preach to the choir....
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Whereas The Creator is aware of the concept, his Kingdom is purged of the resultant fever.

Satan's Virus on the other hand is just now ripening nicely and today would be as good a time as any to test how well it stands up to the irony of inoculation.

Pop quiz: Where did the word "Satan" originate?


Do tell!

Judaic court. The prosecution often were referred to as "shaitans" or adversaries. Shaitan gets bastardized into Satan.
 Quoting: WrecksDeus


And? Each phenomenon requires a familiar label. Satan fits.
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Whereas The Creator is aware of the concept, his Kingdom is purged of the resultant fever.

Satan's Virus on the other hand is just now ripening nicely and today would be as good a time as any to test how well it stands up to the irony of inoculation.

Pop quiz: Where did the word "Satan" originate?


Do tell!

Judaic court. The prosecution often were referred to as "shaitans" or adversaries. Shaitan gets bastardized into Satan.


And? Each phenomenon requires a familiar label. Satan fits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 755255

So the question is; Which came first, the man or the monster?
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Everything is relevant.

I take this opportunity to at least try to communicate the nature of what you deem to be my faith. It is beyond such a description.

My comment was on religion, not faith, but if you equate the two, my condolences...

Do you not know much of "religion" is bullshit? Designed quite on purpose to keep you subjugated by wilier men? Surely I preach to the choir....
 Quoting: WrecksDeus


I've ruminated, considered all the evidence at my disposal. I took into account who would benefit from making such a claim.

Were it not for the epiphanies garnered through experience, I'd be more sympathetic towards this view, but as things stand, though I accept on principal what you say, where we differ is interpretation of motive for the perpetrators of the deception.

Whereas you claim the deception is meant to subjugate, I argue that the power to do so is evident and therefore genuine. Whereas you claim Religion is false, I say it's merely inverted. Where you see guile, I see ineptitude.
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Whereas The Creator is aware of the concept, his Kingdom is purged of the resultant fever.

Satan's Virus on the other hand is just now ripening nicely and today would be as good a time as any to test how well it stands up to the irony of inoculation.

Pop quiz: Where did the word "Satan" originate?


Do tell!

Judaic court. The prosecution often were referred to as "shaitans" or adversaries. Shaitan gets bastardized into Satan.


And? Each phenomenon requires a familiar label. Satan fits.

So the question is; Which came first, the man or the monster?
 Quoting: WrecksDeus


You need to make clear your comprehension of the relationship between the Celestial Rebel we call Satan, Devil or The Dragon, and what you refer to as man.
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You need to make clear your comprehension of the relationship between the Celestial Rebel we call Satan, Devil or The Dragon, and what you refer to as man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 755255

Here is the crux of the matter. I believe Satan, the devil, etc, itself is the lie.

So for me the man telling the lie came first. As we know, fear sells.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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You need to make clear your comprehension of the relationship between the Celestial Rebel we call Satan, Devil or The Dragon, and what you refer to as man.

Here is the crux of the matter. I believe Satan, the devil, etc, itself is the lie.

So for me the man telling the lie came first. As we know, fear sells.
 Quoting: WrecksDeus


Again. In whose interest would it be to have the naive believe Satan does not exist?
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Again. In whose interest would it be to have the naive believe Satan does not exist?
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...um no one?

But you would say Satan right?

I pose a similar question: In who's interest is it to have you believe in Satan?
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Again. In whose interest would it be to have the naive believe Satan does not exist?

...um no one?

But you would say Satan right?

I pose a similar question: In who's interest is it to have you believe in Satan?
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The one trying to protect me.
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Again. In whose interest would it be to have the naive believe Satan does not exist?

...um no one?

But you would say Satan right?

I pose a similar question: In who's interest is it to have you believe in Satan?


The one trying to protect me.
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putin

I can see this wold be a long conversation...

Whatever you chose to believe, just be good to your fellow humans...
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Again. In whose interest would it be to have the naive believe Satan does not exist?

...um no one?

But you would say Satan right?

I pose a similar question: In who's interest is it to have you believe in Satan?


The one trying to protect me.

putin

I can see this wold be a long conversation...

Whatever you chose to believe, just be good to your fellow humans...
 Quoting: WrecksDeus


I wasn't given a choice.

Being good to fellow human beings is reaching them with the truth, regardless of who else tries to stand in the way.
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I wasn't given a choice.

Being good to fellow human beings is reaching them with the truth, regardless of who else tries to stand in the way.
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If you are not acting out of choice, how can you act out of love?

The rest sounds a bit militant...
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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I wasn't given a choice.

Being good to fellow human beings is reaching them with the truth, regardless of who else tries to stand in the way.

If you are not acting out of choice, how can you act out of love?

The rest sounds a bit militant...
 Quoting: WrecksDeus


You assume that everyone is presented with choice in these regards neglecting that not everyone interprets life that way.

I had no choice in the matter of who became my parents, who I grew up alongside, who my peers were going to be, and what they all proceeded to do, nor could I choose under whose authority those actions would be undertaken.

I did not choose my station in life, nor did I choose my purpose.
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I wasn't given a choice.

Being good to fellow human beings is reaching them with the truth, regardless of who else tries to stand in the way.

If you are not acting out of choice, how can you act out of love?

The rest sounds a bit militant...


You assume that everyone is presented with choice in these regards neglecting that not everyone interprets life that way.

I had no choice in the matter of who became my parents, who I grew up alongside, who my peers were going to be, and what they all proceeded to do, nor could I choose under whose authority those actions would be undertaken.

I did not choose my station in life, nor did I choose my purpose.
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But you have or have yet to choose what to do with it all.

Or even yet, choose not to choose and drop out of false arguments.

Perhaps you choose all this before you were born...welcome to the spiritual gymnasium. cheers
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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A/C 75255 says:

Satan's Virus on the other hand is just now ripening nicely and today would be as good a time as any to test how well it stands up to the irony of inoculation.



I wouldn't rub his nose in it, if I were you.

Nor would I rub God's nose in the effects which we now witness.

I think there is enough Hate to go around, as things are.
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I wouldn't rub his nose in it, if I were you.

Nor would I rub God's nose in the effects which we now witness.

I think there is enough Hate to go around, as things are.
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What if i rubbed the Easter bunny's nose in it?
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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I wouldn't rub his nose in it, if I were you.

Nor would I rub God's nose in the effects which we now witness.

I think there is enough Hate to go around, as things are.

What if i rubbed the Easter bunny's nose in it?
 Quoting: WrecksDeus

Okay, okay, that was a bit irreverent. I know we are supposed to be nice to each other...sorry if I offended more than usual...chuckle...sorry....

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"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Alright I'm out... peace
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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No problem.

Things do get out of hand sometimes, don't they?


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