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IS THIS WHY THE SO-CALLED ILLUMINATI EXPOSES ITSELF?

 
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I don't think oil was derived that way.

I'm guessing they call it a fossil fuel for a reason.
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That's how they THINK it formed; but that doesn't make it true or not true.

Scientism takes theories and forms them into DOGMA.

All the time.
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I don't think oil was derived that way.

I'm guessing they call it a fossil fuel for a reason.


That's how they THINK it formed; but that doesn't make it true or not true.

Scientism takes theories and forms them into DOGMA.

All the time.
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There is nothing wrong with Empirical observation.

Strata of compressed hydrocarbons exist under sedimentary rock.

Where is the dogma here?
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Scientism takes theories and forms them into DOGMA.

All the time.
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Like the 'Theory' of Evolution?

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Suppose that you were the enemy of the Creator, stranded here with your offspring (and/or proxies, your hosts) who with your help have successfully subjugated what's left of the natives.

Now, imagine that you're seeing signs; the Creator is on the verge of returning to fulfill his prophecy and promise to reclaim this world.

Wouldn't you be tempted to do the following:

1) Fool the natives into thinking you and your offspring are part of the natural order (contrasting fantastic abominations with yourselves in order to achieve this)

2) Fool the natives and your offspring into thinking your (fantastic) enemies are their enemies?

Is it not possible that this whole Illuminati business is really just an attempt to prepare the population to oppose The Creator of Heaven and Earth?

Why else would knowledge of this nature (supposedly secret and dangerous to the so-called powers that be) be disseminated so freely?

The Creator promises the end of democracy, the end of false religions, the return of rule through kingship. His prophecies dictate mass population reduction in order to restore the world to the way it was meant to be.

Aren't these issues the very things you're meant to abhor when you hear about the so called New World Order?

I'm pretty much convinced that the so-called Illiminati is a phantom organization based loosly upon a genuine globalist cabal which exists in plain view. The Illuminati is a diversion designed to take the focus away from Satan's Children.

These people rely upon your shortsightedness. They want you to focus on something relatively distant, when your true focus, they, are right in front of you.

Don't ever fall for their tricks. Don't fall for the poor white victim giving you 75% of the truth so that you can swallow with it debilitating lies.

And if you happen to be non-black and still unaware of the GENUINE conspiracy, well - now you know, and now you have a choice to make.
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Other than the idea that they could be opposing the creator or God, that's an interesting thought OP.

The "Illuminati" were oligarchs that were seduced by Adam Weishupt, who promised them they would be vested with the authority of the Vatican. This made them little better than holy pawns created to oppose the Knights Templar, whom opposed the Vatican after the pope of the time tried to rip them off.

The mutilated cows and alien abductions are designed to lead into human experiments, which will scare the human population into falling for the coming "Alien War" which will depopulate 90 per cent of the Earth's human popultion in a bid to make Earth profitable.

By adding a religious element, they intend to cause the nations to fight amongst themselves in a genocidal nature. Muslims, Jews and Christians will slaughter one another for the goal of domination. With "god" appearing to end the carnage when the desired death total has been achived.
Twenty grand dood, it's a lot of money!

Recently homosexuals have been making anti christian threads. Think about it.
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There is nothing wrong with Empirical observation.

Strata of compressed hydrocarbons exist under sedimentary rock.

Where is the dogma here?
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The dogma is in how it all formed into oil and gas deposits.

No end of evolutionary bullshit.

It could be that leftover heat from some prehistoric period simply COOKED whatever organic materials existed at that time, under heavy pressure.

It may have absolutely nothing to do with an aeon during which life existed on this planet; likely before life was brought here at all.

But the Scientism-addicts have to keep theorizing how non-life becomes life and how life becomes non-living fuels.
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There is nothing wrong with Empirical observation.

Strata of compressed hydrocarbons exist under sedimentary rock.

Where is the dogma here?


The dogma is in how it all formed into oil and gas deposits.

No end of evolutionary bullshit.

It could be that leftover heat from some prehistoric period simply COOKED whatever organic materials existed at that time, under heavy pressure.

It may have absolutely nothing to do with an aeon during which life existed on this planet; likely before life was brought here at all.

But the Scientism-addicts have to keep theorizing how non-life becomes life and how life becomes non-living fuels.
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It looks like this will be much harder than I thought it would be, trying to reach you that is.

Every time an understanding seems close, you have to go and spoil things with your prevarications.

When will you simply tell the truth?

Fossil fuels are the result of a global flood which laid down sediments on top of forests and fauna. High pressure converted this biota into oil, coal and gas.

That's it.

No dogma. No Scientism. Nothing untoward.
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Suppose that you were the enemy of the Creator, stranded here with your offspring (and/or proxies, your hosts) who with your help have successfully subjugated what's left of the natives.

Now, imagine that you're seeing signs; the Creator is on the verge of returning to fulfill his prophecy and promise to reclaim this world.

Wouldn't you be tempted to do the following:

1) Fool the natives into thinking you and your offspring are part of the natural order (contrasting fantastic abominations with yourselves in order to achieve this)

2) Fool the natives and your offspring into thinking your (fantastic) enemies are their enemies?

Is it not possible that this whole Illuminati business is really just an attempt to prepare the population to oppose The Creator of Heaven and Earth?

Why else would knowledge of this nature (supposedly secret and dangerous to the so-called powers that be) be disseminated so freely?

The Creator promises the end of democracy, the end of false religions, the return of rule through kingship. His prophecies dictate mass population reduction in order to restore the world to the way it was meant to be.

Aren't these issues the very things you're meant to abhor when you hear about the so called New World Order?

I'm pretty much convinced that the so-called Illiminati is a phantom organization based loosly upon a genuine globalist cabal which exists in plain view. The Illuminati is a diversion designed to take the focus away from Satan's Children.

These people rely upon your shortsightedness. They want you to focus on something relatively distant, when your true focus, they, are right in front of you.

Don't ever fall for their tricks. Don't fall for the poor white victim giving you 75% of the truth so that you can swallow with it debilitating lies.

And if you happen to be non-black and still unaware of the GENUINE conspiracy, well - now you know, and now you have a choice to make.


Other than the idea that they could be opposing the creator
or God, that's an interesting thought OP.

SNIP
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That IS the idea.
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They want everyone else to oppose the Creator also.

For this reason they put out these conspiracy theories tagged onto a description of end time prophecy.
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They want everyone else to oppose the Creator also.
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I believe that to be right. It did backfire in my case though. I never knew G-d until I started getting into "conspiracy theories." Or I should say, I never really believed. And even in my periods of belief, I hated G-d. I always asked, "how could G-d be good with all the suffering" (yeah, I was one of those). I realise now, it was Satan and mankind that I hated (but, I didn't believe in 'him' either).

When I put it 'all' together, it proved to me a great and controlling evil. What's going on could never be done by man alone...never...not possible...even by the most brilliant. It has to be a spirit, Satan. We are used by Satan if we do not belong to G-d. After we are used, we are tossed aside like garbage.

Once I believed that Satan existed, then I 'knew' YHWH. I would highly recommend it.

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Ok. Since everyone is being so Abraham Lincoln about things, this is what I'd like to see:

White people giving unbiased, disabused credibility to the following:

Africa is not and never was the Black homeland

Africa is not and never was the cradle of life

Original Man's inception occurred in pre-African Armenia, Northern Mesopotamia

From there Original Man spread out, first inhabiting the Fertile Crescent

Original Man went on to inhabit and culture and civilize Asia, Europe, America and Australia

Shortly following this, "new" lifeforms sprang up

The first of these new lifeforms drove Original Man from The Far East and From North America, and from the West Coast of South America

A second new life-form rose from the Sea to quickly mingle with original blood, to populate lands from the Levant to the Balkans

This second new life-form, drove Original Man from the Mediterranean coasts, from Mesopotamia, from Persia, From India and Eurasia, and then from Western Europe

The surviving Original People of Eurasia were forced South into what the Romans named Africa (meaning Land to the South West)

Around this time from a ghetto in the Levant a member of the Original-Man underclass, chosen by The Creator to represent him on Earth, carried out his ministry: initiating the salvation of the lost souls of his dispersed and enslaved people

New Religions based loosely on the Religion of The Original Man began to proliferate

The Second New Life-form (going on to enter America from the North East) overran Original Peoples in Northern Europe before adopting the religion of their new slaves

Wars between the Second New life-form and Hybrid Desert Dwellers in the Middle East took place on account of the False Religion of the West being at odds with the New Religion of the Middle East

Finally the Second New Life-form subdued Original Men in Britain and Spain, and then (after securing Europe against revivals and New Religion) turned ALL their attentions westward

The Second New Life-form arrived in the Caribbean, Central America, South America, Florida and California where it found Hybrids and their slaves: Original Men

The Second New Life-form killed the Hybrids and claimed their slaves, before being challenged by more ruthless strains of the second new life-form

The Most Ruthless Strain decimated all of the Hybrids in North America and claimed their slaves, calling those slaves Africans so as to legitimize their claim to the land

The Most Ruthless Strain went on to conquer one quarter of the surface of the Earth, swallowing The Caribbean, the Pacific Islands, Australia, The Middle East, India, and much of Africa to add to their holdings in North America, before turning against themselves over the lands that would become the United States

During this time a residue left in the ground from an epoch before the one being described was found to be a useful resource; nations having an abundance of these resources began to wax rich with profits from their sale

In their desire to emulate the most ruthless strain, its "Father Race" attempted to and almost succeeded in grabbing Europe, Russia and Africa, cleansing Europe of lingering traces of Original Blood in the process

Meanwhile in the East, strains of the First New Life-form were embroiled in violent disputes over territory, the most ruthless strain of the first new life-form dominated for a time, even challenging the Most Ruthless Strain of the second new life-form

The Most Ruthless Strain of the second new life-form contemplated submitting to the Father Race, but decided against it, instead, together with its Arch Enemies, they humbled this new opponent

They then turned their attention to the most ruthless strain in the Far East and ended the conflict against them with unsated fire

The Arch Enemies of the Father Race became the Arch Enemies of the Most Ruthless Strain, both threatening to destroy each other (and each others' proxies) with fire

Meanwhile Countries in the Middle East which had adopted one of the New Religions found themselves sitting on a fortune: endless lakes of resources under the sand

The Most Ruthless Strain and their Arch Enemy realized the potential sitting under the Desert, and realized also that the New Religion practiced by the Desert Dwellers was against the Most Ruthless Strain

They placed a colony of False Zealots in the Levant

In the Far East the Humbled Strain put all its efforts into emulating the industry of its conqueror (The Most Ruthless) while the First New Life-form aligned itself with The Arch Enemy

Attempting to flank the Arch Enemy, The Most Ruthless repeatedly attacked The First New Life-Form, but were repulsed

Resources began to run low in the West. The Most Ruthless coveted the the lands in the Middle East; Using the False Zealots as a proxy they weakened the military prowess of the Desert Dwellers

The Humbled Strain(s) and the Desert Dwellers waxed rich on profits from the sale and industry of resources and artifacts

The Most Ruthless now used its mouth piece (conducted by False Zealots) to denigrate The Desert Dwellers and The Arch Enemy, to weaken them from within

The tactic worked; the Arch Enemy was broken, The Desert Dwellers (armed by the Most Ruthless and the desperate Arch Enemy) began to fight amongst themselves

Meanwhile, the First New Life-form began to follow the lead of the Humbled Strain(s) (who had become rich off the back of artifice); in Europe old rivals colluded to restore the old Empire of the Second New Life-form

The Most Ruthless manipulated global trade so as to undermine the Humbled Strain in the Far East; they then began an Invasion of The Middle East

Not to be outdone or left behind The Arch Enemy began to prepare itself militarily, economically

But it was the First New Life-form which came, through the ashes of the fallen Humbled Strain in the East, to dominate world trade and to prepare (with its proxies) for war

And what of what was left of Original Man?

Well, he was murdered, abused, lied to, shunned, starved, poisoned and forgotten...


... by all but his Father.
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There is a corps of truth-tellers here who will not be denied.

The scoffers work at their ridicule, but it is God who makes awareness grow.

Good work multiplies faster than evil does.

Bless y'all.
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There is a corps of truth-tellers here who will not be denied.

The scoffers work at their ridicule, but it is God who makes awareness grow.

Good work multiplies faster than evil does.

Bless y'all.
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Yep...just keep at it. Ignore the scoffers, unless of course they reveal themselves to be trolls/shills...then expose them (be careful about that and make sure you know). I mean really...ignore the scoffers. Make an attempt to reason with them...if they refuse to play nice...you know what they are...move on. They want nothing more than to drag you into a grueling argument. If they tip your scales to the dark side...you lose.

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This is a really interesting thread.
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NICE treat but who are the Children of SATAN?

Don't you think they would be scared of GOD (YHWH)for what they have done?

Namaste
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People who INSIST that God does not exist are not afraid of doing wrong.

It's simple as that.
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NICE treat but who are the Children of SATAN?

Don't you think they would be scared of GOD (YHWH)for what they have done?

Namaste
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ive been a bad bad boy.
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NICE treat but who are the Children of SATAN?

Don't you think they would be scared of GOD (YHWH)for what they have done?

Namaste
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Most of the Children of Satan don't know who they are because they're lied to.

I'll put it bluntly.

The original man is the man intended. In plainer language, the first men had sienna skin, perpetual youth, and woolly hair.

Now, this isn't to say that only novel life forms (with flaxen hair, aquiline noses, lissome lucid skin) serve Satan.

There are those of the original race and from hybrid races who also serve Satan, both wittingly and unwittingly.

Likewise there may be those from hybrid races and the new race who oppose him.

In the Book of Revelation (at least in the version rendered in recent times) a multitude of people, who don't seem to fit in, are cleansed and saved.


I'm assuming, as with all who are saved, they are given new bodies.

So to recap succinctly:

White or Non-Black People = Gentiles, Tares, Lucifer, Man of Perdition, The Beast(s), The Great Whore, Children of the Sun, Children of the Wicked One etc.

Black or Non-Caucasoid People = The Original Man and the Genuine Israelites.

Both of these facts are hidden from the population at large.
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NICE treat but who are the Children of SATAN?

Don't you think they would be scared {of The Creator] for what they have done?
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In addition to having no knowledge of the truth and no scruples and thus fear only of physical adversity, they're told either that the Creator does not exist, or that they've defeated The Creator, or that he is vulnerable. In any event they have little choice but to believe these things. What other hope do they have?

They're taught to break every moral parameter in order to derive power, and that they themselves are gods who can determine their own destinies.

In short they are fooled and encouraged to go headlong into destruction.
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So to recap succinctly:

White or Non-Black People = Gentiles, Tares, Lucifer, Man of Perdition, The Beast(s), The Great Whore, Children of the Sun, Children of the Wicked One etc.

Black or Non-Caucasoid People = The Original Man and the Genuine Israelites.

Both of these facts are hidden from the population at large.
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Interesting notion. Maybe that's why most of the genocide of the past and present are aimed at these people. Why is planned parenthood set up like spiderwebs in the black communities of the USA?

And the irony, blacks tend to support democracy (the democratic party). The very party set out to destroy them.
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So to recap succinctly:

White or Non-Black People = Gentiles, Tares, Lucifer, Man of Perdition, The Beast(s), The Great Whore, Children of the Sun, Children of the Wicked One etc.

Black or Non-Caucasoid People = The Original Man and the Genuine Israelites.

Both of these facts are hidden from the population at large.


Interesting notion. Maybe that's why most of the genocide of the past and present are aimed at these people. Why is planned parenthood set up like spiderwebs in the black communities of the USA?

And the irony, blacks tend to support democracy (the democratic party). The very party set out to destroy them.
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You make some good points, but let's not make this into a whitey bashing thread.

White people are just as much the victims of deception as black people.

Whites are fooled into believing:

1) They're intellectually superior, when actually, they're only (in some instances) more accessible to unsanctioned discorporate extraneous genius

2) They're ALL the literal offspring of angels, when it is likely most of them are the result of metaphysical influence, miscegenation (with fauna) and subsequent "natural" selection

3) The lies that there is no Creator, or that the Creator is dead, or that he is powerless, contained, defeated, or that there is no Satan, or that Satan is Lucifer, or that Satan is God

4) The lie that (without The Creator) they can fashion their own fate and destiny

5) The lie that The Messiah came to save them

Only through the knowledge of these falsehoods can members of the unsanctioned and the unintended break free to oppose Satan.

After all, those rebellious life-forms most reconstituted would do well to repay, with this irony, the one who caused them to fall, and could reserve for themselves, through the inimitable grace of the true Father, a hiding place on the day of his wrath.
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No kidding.

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You make some good points, but let's not make this into a whitey bashing thread.

White people are just as much the victims of deception as black people.


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Of course not, I'm doing nothing of the sort. We are all in this together, I was just making a point. I am white, and racism is ridiculous coming from any direction.

Please read my words without spinning them. I say what I mean, and I mean what I say. I'm not sure how my words somehow translated into "bashing whitey." Just a fact...and a point.

And you are right about white people being deceived...all people are deceived.

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This is not about RACE; this is about OMNICIDE of a whole PLANET--

by an Ideology that says, Destroy what you can't rule!


Now.

Is THIS OKAY WITH THE REST OF YOU GUYS?
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This is not about RACE; this is about OMNICIDE of a whole PLANET--

by an Ideology that says, Destroy what you can't rule!


Now.

Is THIS OKAY WITH THE REST OF YOU GUYS?
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If your computer falls prey to a virus which slowly writes garbage to the sectors on your hide drives, wouldn't you salvage what data you could and THEN wipe the whole system clean?
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No kidding.

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Is this a form of affirmation?
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from page one...


they expose there plans through movies and music etc etc.... so that its in EVERYONES heads, but no one thinks its ACTUALLY going to happen because all the thoughts came from "entertainment".... THAT is how they ************************************************************


Now think about the recent Movies and TV series that feature the U,S. as having a'black' Presdident.

Not tnat just having a black President was necessary, but that what you never 'expected' would occur at this time has indeed happened.

Co-incidence ? or hiding in plain sight?

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