Read the Dr. Neruda interviews at the Wingmakers site for the best knowledge of what is truly happening.

Agreed. Listening to this guy sounds like a 3rd rate seance gathering complete with airy music (come-on). However didn't necessarily disagree with the substance...

Too bad, I felt it was totally spontaneous. I don't see that he was being over dramatic either, in fact, I felt he was expressing deep truths with great clarity and doing his best to activate his listeners. Sorry bout your gut not liking it, but it is your heart that needs to listen.

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Wingmakers rule!

Anyone who'd like to gain some knowledge of what is truly happening with WingMakers is encouraged to read the WingMakers Files at [link to wingmakersfiles.110mb.com]

Is still a bump.


If you don't like it don't post, let it just fall off the main page.

[link to signsofthetimevision.wordpress.com]

That was one of the first sites I went too when I "woke up".
I believe them and it moved me. I think they are the real deal. I haven't read it in awhile so I forgot much of it. It may just be one person, a dr., I think. I'm gonna have to look at it again.

I love the philosophies of James, and Wingmakers.

But I do not trust the Wingmakers. I believe they are an alternate future we have made contact with. Even Al Bielek, said in HIS journey to the "future" (from which he was quarantuinned), he said he talked to a massive AI intelligence, crystaline in nature, and that it was built by the Wingmakers!

Ashayana (I know a lot of people here don't like her, but she has solid info in some things) somehow also had info about wingmakers around the same time the original interviews were released...

It was in some "back note" of the book, basically talking about how the Corteum and Labyrinth were deceived. And that developing the BST technology was NOT in our best interests.

I view the Agenda of the Wingmakers and others...as a way to bridge our present with "their future."

Question 18 -- Interview 3 with Dr. Neruda mentions technologies from real US and Russian corporations. The technologies originate from ACIO research. I have checked this out, and the info on the Mig29 and the Internet compression technologies stand up to scrutiny. Is there a risk of legal action against yourself, Mark and the South Bay Group for making these allegations?

Yes, but it is an acceptable risk.

I am pretty sure I am the one who brought that to light, as I was reading the Dr. Neruda interviews back then, anything that i could actually go out & check out, be it a name or a corporation, I did my own research, I found the russian website regarding the Radar computer systems that were reverse engineered and it was all there!!!! I went to the wingmakers message board and posted my findings, a few days later the russian fighter plane manufacturer website had been removed from the net.

here is that info from the Neruda interviews....

Sarah: "So what can you share with me that corroborates -- even to a tiny degree -- that the Labyrinth Group might exist?"

Dr. Neruda: "Nothing. There's nothing you could do to trace things back to the Labyrinth Group. I can't stress it enough. Our ways of filtering technologies into the private sector are extremely subtle."

Sarah: "Okay, then. Just give me an example."

Dr. Neruda: "The Labyrinth Group developed a computer system, which we call ZEMI. Part of the unique characteristics of ZEMI is that its information structure is based on a new form of mathematics for information storage, recombinant encryption, and data compression. It was a mathematics that provided quantum improvements in each of these areas. And we shared it with scientists involved in the design of the MiG-29."

Sarah: "Russia? Are you saying the Labyrinth Group works with the Russian government?"

Dr. Neruda: "No, we never worked with governments directly. In this case, we worked with the Phazotron Research and Production Company in Moscow. We supplied them with an assortment of algorithms, which they in turn adapted for use within their information and fire control radar systems aboard the MiG-29. These same algorithms were discovered by American interests and are now being adapted for use in broadband delivery systems for the global market."

Sarah: "Who's the American interest? Can you give me names?"

Dr. Neruda: "It's not a well-known company, but they go under the name of Omnigon, based in San Diego."

Sarah: "And Omnigon has this technology, which was originally developed by the Labyrinth Group for computer storage, and now they're using it to build broadband delivery systems? In layperson's terms, can you tell me what these networks will do?"

Dr. Neruda: "Assuming they use this technology appropriately, it'll enable Omnigon to embed a significant amount of functionality in the switches of the ATM network and not rely on server-side solutions, which will increase the speed and custom functionality of a network."

Sarah: "By my definition, that wasn't in layperson terms. But it doesn't matter.

"Did the Labyrinth Group create this technology or reverse-engineer it from ET sources?"

Dr. Neruda: "A little of both, actually. They were created within the Labyrinth Group, but some of the initial thinking came from the Zetas, which was reverse-engineered from one of their spacecraft."

Sarah: "How did the organization in Russia get this technology from the Labyrinth Group?"

Dr. Neruda: "Fifteen knew one of the senior scientists at Phazotron and presented him with the idea. It was a friendly gesture, which he believed would later be useful in recruiting this scientist. This method of sharing creates loyalty and it can be done in such a skillful way that the recipient of the idea can believe it was their idea and not simply given to them."

Sarah: "But you must track these technologies or how else would you know it ended up in Omnigon's hands?"

Dr. Neruda: "We have operatives from the intelligence community who feed us information. They're essentially moles that live within the major government research labs and the military industrial complex. In this case, one of our operatives at General Dynamics brought this to our attention. We even use our Remote Viewing technology to track some of our more advanced technologies that we've placed within major syndicates."

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For example...
Check out the following, it's all very real...
[link to www.airforce-technology.com]

Targeting

The aircraft is equipped with an information and fire control radar system comprising: an N-019 radar developed by Phazotron Research and Production Company, Moscow; an infrared search and track sensor; a laser rangefinder; and a helmet-mounted target designator.

For longer-range air combat, the MiG-29 uses radar guidance for the R-27 missile.

Thales TopSight-E helmet-mounted sight and display (HMDS) is being fitted to aircraft for the Indian Navy.

Wingmakers Material validated & verified by former executive director of the American Association of Remote Viewers

"Much of this was already known to us in the early 90s, several years before Jamisson Neruda let the cat out of the bag to a journalist named Sara. Moreover, as a linguist, Neruda’s direct contributions to the present effort have not extended beyond his initial exposition of the matter in his interviews with Sara and through the website subsequently set up to publicize the findings."

Source - [link to www.agoracosmopolitan.com]

Here are those actual Neruda interviews that this insider was speaking of.

The interviews contained in this section of the WingMakers' website are transcripts taken from a series of interviews between Dr. Neruda (the defected ACIO scientist) and Sarah the journalist he contacted shortly after his defection. These interviews provide provocative insights into the Advance Contact Intelligence Organization (ACIO) - the secret government organization responsible for reverse-engineering acquired extraterrestrial technologies.

The Neruda Interviews also provide remarkable insight into a wide variety of topics, including the human genome, secret societies, new physics, cosmology, extraterrestrial influence on earth, and the spiritual nature and purpose of humankind. The interviews are recorded and then transcribed by Sarah exactly as they occurred. These are the original files. It is recommended to read them in the order they were recorded. Please note when you come across the word Corteum they are the Anunnaki.

There are .PDF file versions of the Neruda Interviews in both standard format and large font format available for free in the download section.

Here is a link to the Actual Dr. Neruda Interviews that the Insider/Author Was Speaking of.

[link to wingmakers.com]

Now you know.

Here is the big news, AR Bordon, the author of the article will speak to the the masses for the first time this October!
[link to www.pythagorasconferenceglobal.com]

Here is some of AR Bordon's work...

A.R. Bordon: Extraterrestrials on Earth: A Challenge We Can No Longer Ignore.
[link to www.agoracosmopolitan.com]


Like you, I keep my eyes and ears open and look far and near for pieces of the truth, which are indexed in my memory and subconscious and retrieved in a synchronistic, rational, spatial, and analytically intuitive manner, ultimately revealing a glimpse of the larger picture.

I was profoundly impacted by two documents regarding a certain working group that meets with off world entities. Coincidentally, I believe Charles is in contact with one group of off world entities that this working group studies. One document called "The Link – Extraterrestrials in Near Earth Space and Contact on the Ground," authored by A.R. Borden and company can be found here:

[link to battleofearth.wordpress.com]

It is a wealth of information, but not an easy read. The style of writing and arrangement of information is highly analytical and rigorous. But it is written in a way that enables individuals from all backgrounds to glean its contents and extract useful meaning from it.

THE LINK. This is a book that now is going to become three separate entities, as there is a great deal of information to be included, and a single one would be downright unwieldy. The term “link” is nothing but a moniker, a name for something that truly does not have one. It is also a referent term to line-of-sight, gnosive, and email experience with people who are not from Earth.

The trouble with acceptance of this work is that it does not fit the Strieber mold: zeta-type sauroids with large black eyes and 3+ feet in stature. Our experience, especially in the upper midwest and northwest of the United States, has been that if one of “them” sat across from you at a Denny’s or Marie Callender’s, you would not recognize him/her as being not human from Earth. Many look exactly like us, some a little bluish of skin and perceivably evident Meissner field emanation (auric field), other greenish, and others silverish-white. Some are extremely tall (6’10+), some are like us (6′ or less) and some pigmy-like (some Asian-looking, some large round head Afro-black-like) some with skin near pink to red. Then there are people with very advanced biomolecular capabilities – abilities that include biomimic of the ambient environment and the ability to shift in form without changing size, abilities to migrate to electrostatic/energetic avatars that look very much like biological forms/bodies, abilities to migrate through what we can at this juncture only grasp as “moving through a microwormhole that naturally occur on Earth-surface spacetime, and finally, people who can become manifest right before your eyes and desynchronize and disappear in the middle of a conversation (quite disconcerting!). Yes, there are zeta-types with abilities quite advanced from our current viewpoint. However, it is possible to interact and interface with any of them, provided one has some working knowhow of topological thinking and one can follow a conversation at all possible levels of meaning and one does not yield to fear (i.e., 64 beats per second, high alpha/low beta, and other skills).

Also look at the discussion people interested in life physics are having at our forum, [link to lifephysicsgroup.org] or at the blog, [link to lifephysicsgroup.org] A great deal of what we are now placing in the public domain stems from assists we’ve received from people who are not from here, including the basic technology to set up extension neurosensing (ENS) to leave the body with a sustainable avatar and a pov that is useful in moving spacelike (moving in time) as well as moving timelike (going to places where spacetime is similar to ours, and to others that are not). - A.R. Bordon

The second document called "Between the Devil and the Returning Rock," authored by A.R. Borden and company can be found here:

[link to battleofearth.wordpress.com]

Both documents are very well written. They trigger many questions. They are also both works in progress. My understanding is that the authors are currently working on their completion.

I have read these documents and combed the text. Where possible, I have cross referenced much of the information. A.R. Borden and company are very serious individuals with incredibly good primary and secondary contacts within intelligence agencies and with seemingly off world entities. Their manner of writing, analysis, and methodological research process is uncannily similar to what you would find in an academic journal. Thus, you can infer that their group is highly sophisticated and intelligent. Moreover, they are not caught in a Hegelian dialectic. It appears they have traversed the boundary between fear and doom and love and light to reach a view point that incites rational and intuitive dialogue on some very important issues, many of which are discussed on this forum.

I have not paid much attention to the Annunaki and their operations on earth, until I got to know Ar Bordon and set about trying to see if I could find cases that would back up his story. I recently wrote up a small Facebook note as follows:

I got Ar Bordon's permission to post this in order to clear up some misperceptions about him and give folks an idea of what he is about as best I can tell. He said it was accurate and concise.

Ar Bordon (pen name) is the most public individual node in a network of people who have had direct contact with various individual extraterrestrials and groups, both of a human nature and non-human nature. This exopolitical network, in which Ar is a part, has direct face to face and telepathic contact and communication with ETs but is independent of National military and intelligence groups. Its parallel is the emerging exopolitical community that is much larger, but mostly without the extensive direct access to extraterrestrials as does Ar’s network.

This network does liaison with the military and intelligence agencies involving issues of National Security when considered necessary.

The members of this exopolitical network have backgrounds with corporations, military and intelligence agencies, but the group works independently and negotiates as a loosely knit operation to identify and to understand the evolution, motives and agendas of a rather large number of extraterrestrial races and civilizations and their interactions with earth humankind.

These direct interactions include several types of humans that closely resemble us enough to interact with us on the street without us knowing who they are. Other types of humans we would recognize as different from us if met on the street. Types that are not human include several kinds of Greys, several types of beings with Reptilian ancestries and insect ancestries and others including machine intelligences, robots, etc.

The big picture is of a well-populated universe of space faring beings of very diverse nature, some who have taken an interest in Earth affairs for a number of reasons as it is profitable for them to interface with us out of self-interest and cooperative interest. End