Is the Old Testament becoming an unsustainable embarassment to us Christians?

I don't see it as an embarrassment. It's a very important part of what came to be in the NT.

However I'm willing to accept that things may be mistranslated, out of context or perhaps even plain wrong over the years but I also believe that when I read it, the important things are presented to me.

Personally, no.

Well said, AC!

The Old Testament is the Jewish bible so yes, following the scripture of the group who murdered your saviour is not considered good practice.

I find endearing people that concurr in saying that the god of the Old Testament is the one and same as the God of the New.

But as Christians we are to believe thet Jesus is the son of God and Messiah, one whose words are not to be edited or changed, one whose mission is to be regarded with respect due then I ask on whose behalf was this book called bible glued together? Because Jesus certainly didnt leave instructions to that effect, in fact many of his teachings clearly antagonize the very basic foundation of the Old Testament in my most humble opinion.

In all 4 Gospels Jesus validates and confrims the OT

The greatest example is found in Luke


And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

In this one short verse our Lord validates and confrims the OT

Under whose authority instruction and guidelines was this done? Because it certainly wasnt accomplished following those of Jesus who is afterall the pillar of Christianity.

Who thought they knew better than Jesus Himself?

Yes to fulfill and to complete in order to establish a new covenant with a new commandment.
that does not imply that both O and N are the same or to be presented and regarded as such.

Yet the proponents of these Jewish prophets went ahead and killed him - in line with the murderous desires and directives of many Jewish prophets in the OT - if something is "bad", stone it or rape it.

I can see how this Jesus character endorsed the OT.

wHAT IF THAT ONE SHORT VERSE WAS NOT BY JESUS AND ONLY INSERTED INTO THE NT BY OTHERS

I wouldn't call it an embarassment, it is what it is, but it shall remain forever incomprehensible to me how anyone can read the old testament and think that god is the good guy.

Because Jews tell people what to think.

Then that is really fucked up.

he told us very clearly that one can not put new wine into old wine skins

You're not a christian if you don't respect the old testament.
It's written by the father who send jesus to save us, the whole testament is the prologue to the gospel.

Deny the work of the father, you also deny the son...and vice versa...

I am a Christian, I regard Jesus as the Messiah.

He didnt tell us that we must adhere to and believe the Old Testament in order to be Christians did he?

i do not deny the Father either. The Father as taught to us by Jesus ,the God of Love. I recognize Him as mu God and no other.

Now that we have the issue of the earth not being the center of the universe resolved, the main problem I see is the unicorns. That's a little bit embarrassing.

OP as I said before, the entire NT confirms the OT.We could go thru the Gospels & letters its there re-read it again if you missed it

Jesus speaking

But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living

Then respect his plan for mankind, he first brought the law to the jews, to mold the collective consciousness in preparation for salvation, jesus is the fulfillment of the old law, he also said, don't add or remove from the law....

It's all in there, look it up.

the OT is chock full of yet to be fulfilled prophecy and I can't imagine divesting from it

as for the old covenants they were to show we can't possibly meet God's standards and as such we needed the cup of the new covenant -- Christ's blood shed for many

people who see a mean and angry God in the OT cannot categorically assume they know of the ultimate disposition of the ancient peoples

He is the same God of grace mercy love and forgiveness and could well have allowed those cursed people to come to Him for His own purposes

God knows our hearts and to he who has little (such as the ignorant) little is expected

nowadays as the gospel is spread throughout the earth we do well to heed it as it as our primary concern at this time -- we are tremendously blessed and advantaged -- how can we neglect such salvation?

we were appointed for a time such as this and I believe we do well to tend to our Master's business today and let Him worry about His business back when

Jesus said he who has seen Him has seen the Father -- there are also OT theophanies that look a lot like Jesus

keep it simple keep it pertinent and keep your eyes on Jesus the author and finisher of our faith!

love peace and joy

rb

"The path of scripture is death"thus spoke Jesus in the Gospel of Thomas.

Jesus rebuked Satan for the offer of political and earthly wealth,those that accepted his offer are the spiritualists.

Jesus wanted people to feel the power of God which can only be found in the moment and never to be found by looking for it or waiting for it, For the Kingdom of God is spread out upon the face of the earth,but men do not see it.

spiritualists should read scripturalists

my apologies to spiritualists

The words of Christ were manipulated and many things cut out
from the new testament, the new testament is another misleading text.

If you want to know the True Words of Christ then follow his ACTIONS
In all his actions He Shows you, even died a horrifying death to SHOW YOU and showed NO resistance because SPIRIT is more important than physical, that he was filled with
LOVE for ALL and not once did he say kill or hate your enemys
Kill or hate the pagans, or be revengeful, kill those who disagree with you...like the god of abraham did...and those that justify these things are NOT true Christians.

Putting these two "books" together just SHOWS you
what political religion is all about.

Jesus says in Matt. 5:17-19. Lets look at what Jesus intent is when He states, “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. “For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.”

I see a G-D who is and was patient ......if I was indeed
G-D, I would of destroyed the earth and NEVER allowed a second chance ( even though we have had MANY chances as humans)!

Fox

There is also the spiritual message in both books,
pray to the Lord that he might reveal it in your heart.
Then you will read with another eye.

The only embarassment to christers is the fact that they can't even follow the simplest of the bible's precepts, and yet they all claim that they're going to heaven and everyone else is a sinner and blah blah blah.